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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 06 2011 15:48 GMT
#28
/in !
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 12 2011 10:56 GMT
#273
Checking in and looking forward to a good game!

[image loading]

I'm running for mayor.


Im still relative new to the TL mafia games but not to online mafia games in general. I post what i think and don't mind taking a leap of faith to get things done. Also, I mistrust anyone by default and have a healthy hatred towards mafiagame-veterans onelining the thread into poop.

I will listen to good argumentation and will execute what the majority wants when they make sense and ignore when it's all clear jibberish. Voting for me gives you an active and open minded mayor, not tainted and bitter by previous TL games and above all, a scumhunter who will not stop once he has smelled a red.

Cwave
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 12 2011 12:47 GMT
#278
On December 12 2011 16:17 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
i dont like how the general attention is focussed on the election and not on the lynch...
@prplhz, i have to start somewhere right?!


There isn't much info atm to base a lynch on so it makes sense to focus on elections for now right?
Or did i miss a slip of anyone?

Further more, i do agree on the "good" players being fine candidates for mayor. I am however afraid that once they claim a mayor position, other veterans will start pingponging with him/them again and newer players get left out and important information gets lost in the roleplaying madness.

Concerning Artocod running for mayor, i find the selection of the image for his election a daring one. I hope it's not a hidden message.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 12 2011 13:01 GMT
#279
On December 12 2011 13:52 nyczbrandon wrote:
I guess I'll follow majority vote because its my first time play :/


No, that's not in the best interest for our town!
Vote on who you think made a scumslip or who your gutfeeling is telling you is a scummy bastard. And also say why you vote/think that way.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 12 2011 15:20 GMT
#296
Well, we have two obvious candidates for mayor/pardoner. Myself, and Palmar/Syllo.

We're all three of us good players
We're all good at scum hunting
We all consistently get shot by mafia Night 1 and 2.
We are unlikely both mafia, and have decent reads on each other if one of us is scum.

The main benefit of the mayor and pardoner roles is the protection of the hidden bodyguard. With him alive, the elected roles can't be touched. As such it makes sense to use that protection to keep strong players alive, players who are likely to be targeted by mafia.

In PYPInsane myself and Mig were elected, two strong town players and we cruised to victory. In this game I recommend we do the same. Palmar, Syllogism and Myself all have the ability to be completely game changing if left alive long enough, elected roles does that.

Palmar and Syllo, maybe you guys weren't planning on running, but that would be foolish, and you guys aren't foolish.

Obviously I have no idea of Palmar/Syllos alignment, and everyone only has one vote, so please vote for me. However, Palmar/Syllo should most likely be in second place.

A vote for me is a vote for town victory.


I don't see how it's a good plan to put you two(three) in those positions based on your statements and catchy phrases like "A vote for me is a vote for town victory". I rather put on of you in office and have the other "pro" fight for his spot round 2. That would give me more info then selecting our apparent two "pro players" to get the first two elected spots we have been given.

Two, the likelyhood of us both being scum is quite low.


It's just as equal to any other combo of mayor/pardonner of us all in this game. I never liked the use of statistics(and not factual numbers, say at the near end of a game) to prove ones innocence/town being.


Tagging your posts would actually be quite helpful. That goes for all the hydras.

I do very much agree on that!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 12 2011 15:28 GMT
#298
Those quotes were from Radfield*
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 13 2011 09:38 GMT
#450
On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

Show nested quote +
1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.


Ayyyyyyyyy, a classic poke by Radfield and you respond with those words. You are getting my vote for now unless someone slips up. As for my mayor running campagne.... i think it's snowed under the vets and i have no chance of winning. Shame cause i am a straighforward townsmen who has what it takes to scumhunt. I will vote for Radfield for mayor since he comes across as a good and active player who actually gets people to post stuff like what MrZentor posted above.

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 13 2011 12:26 GMT
#470
On December 13 2011 18:38 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.


Ayyyyyyyyy, a classic poke by Radfield and you respond with those words. You are getting my vote for now unless someone slips up. As for my mayor running campagne.... i think it's snowed under the vets and i have no chance of winning. Shame cause i am a straighforward townsmen who has what it takes to scumhunt. I will vote for Radfield for mayor since he comes across as a good and active player who actually gets people to post stuff like what MrZentor posted above.



Mayor
##Vote: Radfield

Lynch
##Vote: MrZentor
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 13 2011 15:20 GMT
#483
On December 14 2011 00:05 zeks wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 17:12 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Having only two real candidates for mayor/pardoner makes me uneasy, but I even more dislike the half-assed mayoral campaign that promises activity and follows it up by being inactive. Can any player who has played with them (Curu/Erandorr) before give some insight as to how active they generally are as town versus scum? And to Curu/Erandorr, any particular reason for the lack of activity? And why did you run for mayor and then put no effort into it?


Radfield / Arc get the benefit of the doubt for now..unfortunately thats how it works in TL Mafia



I miss how that is unfortunate? That they are running for mayor or that they get the benefit of the doubt because they have more fluff then the other candidates and what is bad about that?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 09:06 GMT
#951
Ah man, sucks this election revoking happened while i was in dreamland :\
And you bastards lynched our blue with some last moment voting.


risk.nuke Sweden. December 14 2011 11:56. Posts 904 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##Vote: SpaackleLast edit: 2011-12-14 11:56:34

Ponies, Rainbows, FireBatHero, Nintendo-64, The Protomen, Friendship! Mood:



MrZentor United States. December 14 2011 11:57. Posts 65 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##Vote Spaackle

Borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back



Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:58. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##Vote: Spaackle



Comprissent United States. December 14 2011 12:00. Posts 220 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##unovte

##vote Spaackle

It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's hilarious



Refallen December 14 2011 12:01. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##Vote Spaackle

cascades Singapore. December 14 2011 12:05. Posts 3708 PM Profile Blog Quote #
filter
##Vote Spaackle




Late votes including one from Zentor who is scum in my eyes due to his responds to the early poke from Radfield. Then again, he could have just been saving his ass by joining the bandwagon on Spaackle. Which is not very towny cause if you are green you don't just join a clear sheepvoterally. This is making Zentor even more scummy for me.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#955
On December 14 2011 12:31 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 12:24 zeks wrote:
Switching through 3~ish candidates in the last minutes is pretty bad Radfield

Hope it doesnt come to this tomorrow.


Yep, that seems to be my style these days

Day 1 is not my strong suit, but I can guarantee I will do better Day 2 I have plenty of time over the next few days.

If I was scum, I would doublestack Arctocod tonight. I highly recommend all medics cover them, it leaves mafia free to snipe other players, but I think that is an OK trade-off.

There is a chance that Arctocod removed themselves in order to buy town credit. I find this highly unlikely:

1. If Arctocod was scum, they would have removed me from office, as I am far more likely to find them out than any other player.

2. That would be a substantial waste of a very important role. We don't know what elections will be in the future, and some may be very beneficial for mafia to get. Using it now to buy a little town cred is a waste.

3. Mafia wants the elected roles filled with mafia. If they used the ability on themselves it simply allows a chance for a different townie to get elected.



Filter Radfield

Mhhhhh out of the ordinary smiley usage when i look at all your other posts, rebuttles and answers in your filter.
And you start using the smileys after your being asked about your weird last minute vote switch dance. Something you just don't do if you are pro-town or a veteran at this game. Or both.

You have an aura of scum around you now, Radfield. Very dark and very grey.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 09:37 GMT
#956
*Rebuttals... what a weird english word.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 09:49 GMT
#957
Another weird event:

Refallen votes Spaackle outside of the vote deadline. But he also voted twice for Spaackle.
Refallen Vote Filter

Care to explain Refallen? Are you paying attention or did your scummy friends tell you to go for Spaackle and you forgot you had voted before?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#958
On December 14 2011 11:49 GreYMisT wrote:
The spaackle quote is quite interesting, is there anything else about him that you are suspicious of?


Also one of the reason MrZentor lives at the expense of Spaackle. That's all you needed for last minute switching to Spaackle, Greymist?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 12:42 GMT
#965
On December 14 2011 21:37 cascades wrote:

Who do you and Deus think should have been in office then? ProfessorBadass was the only vet that was online. I don't think the people who voted in ProfBadass were at fault.


Eiii United States. December 14 2011 10:58. Posts 967 PM Profile Blog Quote #
filter
##unvote
##vote ProfessorBadass

Refallen December 14 2011 11:18. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##Unvote Arctocod
##Vote ProfessorBadass

Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:30. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
filter
##Vote: ProfessorBadass


Same 3 who last minute voted our blue Spaacks into a lynch.
These same 3 also voted ProfessorBadass into office.

*snif snif

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 13:24 GMT
#968
On December 13 2011 13:26 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 13:23 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 13 2011 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
Hola! After reading this, I decided to post again.

1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
11. MrZentor
15. evantrees
17. DropBear
23. Nisani201
24. cascades
25. ProfessorBadass (Curu + Erandorr hydra)


Because apparently one post isn't enough, here's my second one. :p

Anyways, I think we should lynch zeks. He wants to kill the hydra, because it will be "dangerous for the town", but having the hydra only helps town. He is either extremely stupid or he is mafia. Either way, it's best to kill him.

I already stated my view on who should be elected and voted for said person.


Building off Eii's accusations, here you say that either zeks is stupid or mafia, then you nonchalantly say that we should lynch him because he is the all we have at the moment in the next post. To me this doesnt look like an accusation or pressure, to me this looks like someone jumping on an easy wagon.


he says as he hops on my easy bandwagon


After which you yourself climb on both the Spaacks bandwagon and the ProfB switch.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 13:52 GMT
#971
On December 14 2011 22:19 xsksc wrote:

As for the lynch, that was a mess, loads of people still hadn't voted with 30 mins left in the day and we needed to pick someone..


I disagree.


evantrees Canada. December 14 2011 10:27. Posts 119 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
DEUS-ex-MAFIA Vatican City State. December 14 2011 10:34. Posts 44 PM Profile Quote #
##vote Nisani201
GiygaS Canada. December 14 2011 10:37. Posts 369 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Nisani201


These 3 votes mark the start of the bitchswitch to Spaackles. Nisani201 lands 3 votes. After that, people start unvoting to prepare for a Spaackles lynch. Mafia panics and does this:
+ Show Spoiler +

Eiii United States. December 14 2011 10:59. Posts 967 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##unvote
GreYMisT United States. December 14 2011 11:02. Posts 1447 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: Nisani201
Liquid`Sheth United States. December 14 2011 11:14. Posts 1005 PM Profile Blog Quote #
#Vote: MrZentor
Refallen December 14 2011 11:17. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
nyczbrandon United States. December 14 2011 11:22. Posts 88 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
prplhz Denmark. December 14 2011 11:24. Posts 1109 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Refallen
Eiii United States. December 14 2011 11:24. Posts 967 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##vote Spaackle
Refallen December 14 2011 11:25. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Nisani201
Refallen December 14 2011 11:30. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##vote Spaackle
Liquid`Sheth United States. December 14 2011 11:32. Posts 1005 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Unvote MrZentor
ProfessorBadass December 14 2011 11:34. Posts 62 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Spaackle
evantrees Canada. December 14 2011 11:42. Posts 119 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Nisani201
Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:46. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: evantrees
ProfessorBadass December 14 2011 11:47. Posts 62 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote risk.nuke
Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:49. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote: evantrees
##Vote: spaackle
zeks Canada. December 14 2011 11:49. Posts 890 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote: MrZentor
xsksc Scotland. December 14 2011 11:51. Posts 382 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Spaackle
prplhz Denmark. December 14 2011 11:51. Posts 1109 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
prplhz Denmark. December 14 2011 11:52. Posts 1109 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Unvote Refallen
##Vote Nisani201
GreYMisT United States. December 14 2011 11:52. Posts 1447 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote: Nisani201
##Vote: spaackle
evantrees Canada. December 14 2011 11:53. Posts 119 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: spaackle
ProfessorBadass December 14 2011 11:54. Posts 62 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote risk.nuke
##Vote Spaackle
Liquid`Sheth United States. December 14 2011 11:55. Posts 1005 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Spaackle
MrZentor United States. December 14 2011 11:55. Posts 65 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
nyczbrandon United States. December 14 2011 11:56. Posts 88 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Nisani201
##Vote Spaackle
risk.nuke Sweden. December 14 2011 11:56. Posts 906 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: Spaackle
MrZentor United States. December 14 2011 11:57. Posts 65 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Spaackle
Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:58. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: Spaackle
Comprissent United States. December 14 2011 12:00. Posts 220 PM Profile Quote #
##unovte
##vote Spaackle
Refallen December 14 2011 12:01. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Spaackle


Everyone in the last hour and i mean EVERYONE who voted in the last hour, had a vote out before that. So your quote of it being a mess and people had not voted yet is not only a bit wrong. It's completly wrong.

Prplz had voted before and went for Nisani in the last hour. Zeks had voted before and went for Mr Zentor in the last hour.

Eiii, Greymist, LiquidSeth, Refallen, Radfield, Risk.nuke, Comprissent, Nyc and Liquid all voted for Spaackle in the last hour AND had a vote out before that. And last but not least ProfBad who switched from Spaackles to risk.nuke to..... Spaackles.

Tsk tsk tsk. Scum!

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 14:07 GMT
#973
On December 14 2011 22:58 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 22:52 Cwave wrote:
On December 14 2011 22:19 xsksc wrote:

As for the lynch, that was a mess, loads of people still hadn't voted with 30 mins left in the day and we needed to pick someone..


I disagree.


evantrees Canada. December 14 2011 10:27. Posts 119 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
DEUS-ex-MAFIA Vatican City State. December 14 2011 10:34. Posts 44 PM Profile Quote #
##vote Nisani201
GiygaS Canada. December 14 2011 10:37. Posts 369 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Nisani201


These 3 votes mark the start of the bitchswitch to Spaackles. Nisani201 lands 3 votes. After that, people start unvoting to prepare for a Spaackles lynch. Mafia panics and does this:
+ Show Spoiler +

Eiii United States. December 14 2011 10:59. Posts 967 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##unvote
GreYMisT United States. December 14 2011 11:02. Posts 1447 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: Nisani201
Liquid`Sheth United States. December 14 2011 11:14. Posts 1005 PM Profile Blog Quote #
#Vote: MrZentor
Refallen December 14 2011 11:17. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
nyczbrandon United States. December 14 2011 11:22. Posts 88 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
prplhz Denmark. December 14 2011 11:24. Posts 1109 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Refallen
Eiii United States. December 14 2011 11:24. Posts 967 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##vote Spaackle
Refallen December 14 2011 11:25. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Nisani201
Refallen December 14 2011 11:30. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##vote Spaackle
Liquid`Sheth United States. December 14 2011 11:32. Posts 1005 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Unvote MrZentor
ProfessorBadass December 14 2011 11:34. Posts 62 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Spaackle
evantrees Canada. December 14 2011 11:42. Posts 119 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Nisani201
Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:46. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: evantrees
ProfessorBadass December 14 2011 11:47. Posts 62 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote risk.nuke
Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:49. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote: evantrees
##Vote: spaackle
zeks Canada. December 14 2011 11:49. Posts 890 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote: MrZentor
xsksc Scotland. December 14 2011 11:51. Posts 382 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Spaackle
prplhz Denmark. December 14 2011 11:51. Posts 1109 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
prplhz Denmark. December 14 2011 11:52. Posts 1109 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Unvote Refallen
##Vote Nisani201
GreYMisT United States. December 14 2011 11:52. Posts 1447 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote: Nisani201
##Vote: spaackle
evantrees Canada. December 14 2011 11:53. Posts 119 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: spaackle
ProfessorBadass December 14 2011 11:54. Posts 62 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote risk.nuke
##Vote Spaackle
Liquid`Sheth United States. December 14 2011 11:55. Posts 1005 PM Profile Blog Quote #
##Vote Spaackle
MrZentor United States. December 14 2011 11:55. Posts 65 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Nisani201
nyczbrandon United States. December 14 2011 11:56. Posts 88 PM Profile Quote #
##Unvote Nisani201
##Vote Spaackle
risk.nuke Sweden. December 14 2011 11:56. Posts 906 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: Spaackle
MrZentor United States. December 14 2011 11:57. Posts 65 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Spaackle
Radfield Canada. December 14 2011 11:58. Posts 1716 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote: Spaackle
Comprissent United States. December 14 2011 12:00. Posts 220 PM Profile Quote #
##unovte
##vote Spaackle
Refallen December 14 2011 12:01. Posts 127 PM Profile Quote #
##Vote Spaackle


Everyone in the last hour and i mean EVERYONE who voted in the last hour, had a vote out before that. So your quote of it being a mess and people had not voted yet is not only a bit wrong. It's completly wrong.

Prplz had voted before and went for Nisani in the last hour. Zeks had voted before and went for Mr Zentor in the last hour.

Eiii, Greymist, LiquidSeth, Refallen, Radfield, Risk.nuke, Comprissent, Nyc and Liquid all voted for Spaackle in the last hour AND had a vote out before that. And last but not least ProfBad who switched from Spaackles to risk.nuke to..... Spaackles.

Tsk tsk tsk. Scum!



You misunderstand me, I meant hadn't voted for one of the current candidates. There were people like me who were voting for someone who nobody else seemed interested in, so we had to consolidate. The mass votes on Spaackle came in the last 10minutes. It was a fucking mess.


Ill requote your words


As for the lynch, that was a mess, loads of people still hadn't voted with 30 mins left in the day and we needed to pick someone. .


You say it as people had not voted yet, thus being forced to quickly pick a target and making it less "bad" for jumping on a bandwagon. This is false information.

No force of modkill was dooming people in this bandwagon as you all had voted before. Why say it as if there was?
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 14 2011 14:25 GMT
#979
On December 14 2011 23:16 Radfield wrote:
Hi Cwave, please stop telling us about how bad the spaackles lynch was, and instead tell us who you would have lynched.


I did and i voted for him, namely Mister Zentorrrrrrrr. Full of BS and he semi-claims to prevent getting lynched. In my opinion he is red.

On December 14 2011 23:17 Radfield wrote:
Also, Cwave, in the future please use the 'quote' function as opposed to copy/pasting information. It is much cleaner to see.


Trying. I live and sleep with the edit button so this is really hard to do!
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Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 08:19 GMT
#1288
On December 15 2011 12:21 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Well shit, we only get one bodyguard right?

Elections should be obvious, make Arctocod the Surgeon General and GigyaS the Secretary of Defense.


I'm growing a bit tired of this "vets should get the election things".
What makes Arctocod town at the moment? Afaik, he got Eiii killed and no scum has been delivered so far.

Anywhere in the thread where he ibecomes a confirmed town or made someone scumslip?
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#1291
On December 15 2011 17:30 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 17:19 Cwave wrote:
On December 15 2011 12:21 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Well shit, we only get one bodyguard right?

Elections should be obvious, make Arctocod the Surgeon General and GigyaS the Secretary of Defense.


I'm growing a bit tired of this "vets should get the election things".
What makes Arctocod town at the moment? Afaik, he got Eiii killed and no scum has been delivered so far.

Anywhere in the thread where he ibecomes a confirmed town or made someone scumslip?

He was forced to withdraw from the election day 1 that he was winning a role in, specifically one with a bodyguard protecting him from night kills. Scum has 3 kp, 2 died, Arctocod claimed being hit by the third shot. If nobody counter-claims then either scum withheld a kp and used one of their powers day 1 solely to get him town-cred...or he is actually town. Which seems more likely to you?


Yes he claims being shot and he was "forced" to withdraw. Still not townconfirmation just by that.
This is a palmar hydra thus should never be trusted blindly, ever .
I will agree on him being a good candidate but not on "ok new election, bam, insta-give it to one of the vets".


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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 09:03 GMT
#1293
On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote:
see below



Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs.
I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account.
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Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 09:20 GMT
#1295
On December 15 2011 18:03 Arctocod wrote:
Cwave who would you elect and why?


Myself as im town and would put great power to good use. Seeing as this is veteran city im aware that the chances of that happening are slim i still hope to make everyone think twice before its a Russian election again.
As for the second candidate, i say Giygas. Giygas posts sensible and is active, has a brain and will use the power to good use instead of squander it.

All of the last hour vote switchers to Spaackle can expect to never get a vote from me while there are sensible alternatives
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 09:20 GMT
#1296
On December 15 2011 18:13 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:03 Cwave wrote:
On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote:
see below



Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs.
I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account.



Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote:
As this is probably going to be a common problem, if you you accidently post under the wrong account, please quote the post with your hydra account and then edit the previous post out. Changing the contents of the post will result in a multi-game ban. ty



I've been following this protocol.


Ok didnt know that. I stand corrected, sorry.
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December 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#1298
On December 15 2011 18:28 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:20 Cwave wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:13 Arctocod wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:03 Cwave wrote:
On December 15 2011 09:47 Palmar wrote:
see below



Can you stop editing out your post when you post on the wrong account? This goes for all hydra blobs.
I can understand it happens but i would like it if you leave the orginal post there and repost on the right account.



On December 13 2011 06:58 kitaman27 wrote:
As this is probably going to be a common problem, if you you accidently post under the wrong account, please quote the post with your hydra account and then edit the previous post out. Changing the contents of the post will result in a multi-game ban. ty



I've been following this protocol.


Ok didnt know that. I stand corrected, sorry.


Are you mafia? Stop trying to get elected, you won't.

Now go build me a case on someone, explain to me your top 2 scumreads, and explain why they're scum.


ProfessorBadass for vote dancing and getting elected by a swift selection of late voters.
MrZentor cause he can claim all he want, he needs to really claim or be outed as the scum he is.

As for your post itself. Don't dismiss me with a postive assignment. How about yourself go and make a case on someone? Seeing as your only real case in your filter is the one on Nisani, i might say thats a bit mediocre for a celibrated scumhunter. Lot of dribble, lot of fluff and one dead blue.
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 14:06 GMT
#1306
On December 15 2011 23:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 15:33 GiygaS wrote:
On December 15 2011 15:17 ProfessorBadass wrote:
That's not how I interpreted it to work, it's a role with powers but you don't learn what it does until you get elected.

Kita can you clarify?

That's how I interpreted it too: Is it only shown to you, or the rest of the town as well?


The Secretary of Defense is a unique power, which only will be revealed to the elected official.


I hope it's a nuke. Nukes are amazing and awesome.
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 15:30 GMT
#1314
On December 16 2011 00:09 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 23:54 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
EBWOP : Just woke up, meant to say "If I said I'm getting a really scum read on Giygas would anyone know why?"

No, he is pretty much a confirmed townie


Herpederp, can you respond to my question about who you think are scum.
Who do you got a read/case on?

On December 15 2011 02:58 Arctocod wrote:
Probably Comprissent/Marserblood or Dropbear. Dropbear disappeared completely once the pressure was off and last time appeared quite quickly after being called out


This is the only active stance you take on who is red. Rest is "problaly green this, problaly green that".
Do you have any good solid reads on someone? Or are you gonna vote on Dropbear(bumatlarge)?

My vote stands on GiygaS for the election for now.
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Cwave
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 15 2011 16:42 GMT
#1325
On December 16 2011 01:28 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 12:46 zeks wrote:
wow both my calls were off as @#!*% i suck as town


Mafia.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 13:35 GreYMisT wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that there are no bodygaurds for this election? and that the only thing that happens with the secretary of defense is that his role is revealed? then upon re-reading and thinking about it we need to treat the runner up slot like a second lynch. I want palmar in the elected spot so i am going to vote for him, but i am considering MrZentor as the runner up. voting him into the runner up will be a win-win for town. if he is town and he did not lie about his roleclaim, then the mafia gains nothing. however if he lied about it and he isnt unlynchable day one, we know who to target next.


I'd like to be elected. Also, for future record and in case I am not on later or I suddenly die, here is a list of people, whom I think are mafia. Sheth, Zeks, Risk.nuke


Seriously..... Do you want to die? -.-

##vote: MrZentor
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 17 2011 21:55 GMT
#1764
On December 18 2011 06:51 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 06:47 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
you don't need protection, since it doesn't matter if your dead or alive. That sounds hard but it's true. You won't be able to lead this town later in the game. In fact, I am not 100% sure that you're town and Arctocod obviously isn't either. Now better contribute something and commentate about the other players that are in the spotlight right now:

sheth,
bumatlarge,
evantress,
cascades


A confirmed innocent person is always useful.


And that confirmed person would be..... ?
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 18 2011 13:08 GMT
#1825
On December 18 2011 09:56 kitaman27 wrote:


VisceraEyes the anarchist has gone out with a bang.
bumatlarge the mafia Godfather suddenly has a lot more time for Responsibility Mafia.

Show nested quote +
Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the anarchist! You wish to bring chaos to the world. Once per game, during the day, you may suicide yourself on target player. Both yourself and your target will explode. This action will bypass medic protection, however it will not bypass bodyguard protection. You win with town.


Show nested quote +
Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the mafia Godfather! All investigative results will return the role and alignment of your choice. Please submit your cover role by the end of day one. You win with mafia.




Oh wauw, i wake up and read this. Good leap of faith!!!
/tips hat


Catching up on thread now.
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#1997
On December 20 2011 07:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
5. Comprissent
9. Cwave
1. MarserBlood
2. nyczbrandon
15. evantrees
24. cascades

these people need to commentate on the following things:

each other and who they find the scummiest, the optimal plan for the election/following night and the Greymistlynch.
If you're town, do that, please!

Hate reactive posting like this but hej.....
I agree on the greymist lynch. He also seems to have given up and just argueing instead of really defending himself. As for this list, marserblood got replaced and okinda gave me a town feel. Nyc comes across scummy due to his scummy voting. Nyc i voted for last day cause i agreed on the case people made agaonst him. i called out profb for vote dancing after which on the end, he flipped as scummy. Rest is either inactive or a bit flimsy in the posting.

furthermore i think risk is just highstrung and a bit adhd, doesnt make him scummy. Refallen i still find scummy for his error on voting twice for the same. Zentor is prob just newby so wouldnt class him as scum as i did in the beginning when he semiclaimed and such.
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 19 2011 22:34 GMT
#1998
On December 20 2011 07:13 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 07:05 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Whats your case against me right now Zentor? I know there is one, I'm just saying, whats yours? Why lynch grey and not myself for instance?


Good question! I don't really have a case against you, everybody else does, and I agree with them. Well, currently Grey looks a lot more scummier than you do, and lynching Grey will give clues on whether you are mafia or not, so it would be much better to lynch him first! If you need specifics, prompt me, and I will be glad to spend a lot more of my time engaging in conversation about why it's much better to lynch you than Grey!


Just i think you are most likely town, you post this? Dear lord....
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 19 2011 22:35 GMT
#1999
Just as i*
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 19 2011 22:54 GMT
#2004
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Nyc for being very inactive most of the time but just above the lurk threshold. He also trained on Spaackles and as far as i can remember he voted Profb in office. zentor back on the target list as for what he just wrote. Fluff and dribble and Seth even calls him out/prompt. As for you yourself you seem to have given yourself an overseer position who puts the unknown players to work. I like it. Doesnt make you green which i hope you are.

Question back, if Grey flips town who should we go for or pressure? Anyone tied to his faith?
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 19 2011 22:59 GMT
#2006
Post is aimed in respone to totallynottwopeople. Fkkinh htc phone.
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 10:00 GMT
#2093
On December 20 2011 16:53 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Nope, I fucked up, triple posting, awwwwww yeah.
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 16:47 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
On December 20 2011 07:54 Cwave wrote:
As i said, Refallen for his "panic" vote as he self proclaims. But in my eyes it's a scum commanded vote he did there.
Can you give some more details on your case on refallen? Prof already had a minimum of 4 town votes on him and at most 1 scum vote (5 and 0 if you consider giygas town), why would they need a fellow scum member to last second vote him when the next highest contender was at 1 vote?

You meant the lynch vote if I am not mistaken, my bad. Either way, nisani was replaced and then flipped town, and spaackle had more than enough votes on him to ensure his lynch without refallen as well, so the point about not needing him to vote-switch in any way still stands.


I did mean the lynch vote but i dont think i understand your last sentence. You mean he didnt had to vote switch since Spaackles was doomed anyway makes him green? The vote mayhem happened in the last hour so it wasnt really clear what the outcome was in the last 10 minutes.

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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 12:09 GMT
#2096
On December 20 2011 21:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now...


And see he pushed for him so hard.
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 12:09 GMT
#2097
On December 20 2011 21:09 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 21:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now...


And see he pushed for him so hard.


And see who pushed for him so hard.
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 12:20 GMT
#2098
On December 20 2011 21:09 Cwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 21:09 Cwave wrote:
On December 20 2011 21:01 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
no counterclaim... alright. Greymist is town. I have to reevaluate everything now...


And see he pushed for him so hard.


And see who pushed for him so hard.


And to triple quote myself, by this is i don't mean to say that the loudest person concercing the Greymist lynch party is automaticly scum as it's also possible Mafia just had to watch and feed the discussion here and there.
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Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 13:04 GMT
#2099
  • jaj22 (Replaced MarserBlood) dunno
  • nyczbrandon lurker/reactive instead of proactive
  • GreYMisT Claims Medic(no counterclaim)
  • DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oldie
  • Comprissent lurkerish
  • TotallyNotTwoPeople Oldie
  • [blue]Spaackle/blue] the Politician
  • Refallen Vote error
  • Cwave vanilla town
  • zeks relaxed and pro town thinking
  • MrZentor Claims Floridian(cant confirm for town). Posts weird and scummy at times.
  • risk.nuke ADHD
  • prplhz Secret Service Agent
  • GiygaS Radical Protester
  • evantrees null
  • Arctocod the vanilla town
  • bumatlarge Mafia Godfather
  • Jitsu null
  • Radfield Pro town posting.
  • Eiii the District Attorney
  • xsksc the Private Investigator
  • Liquid`Sheth prob town
  • VisceraEyes the anarchist
  • cascades null
  • ProfessorBadass Mafia Minister of Propaganda


Thats 2 confirmed scum, 3 unconfirmed

5 dead confirmed blue and 2 alive blue(Giygas), Greymist(unless there where no doctors at the start of the game but thats a very slim chance).

1 dead confirmed town(arctocod) and 1 confirmed alive(myself) and 4 potential townies(Deus, Zeks, Radfield, Liquid'Zeth, )

That leaves jaj22, nyczbrandon, Comprissent, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Refallen, evantrees, Jitsu, cascades for 3 scum spots.

3 out of these 8 have a high potential to be scum and for now, Nyc is my prima suspect unless he puts up a good case why he shouldnt hang from a tree.





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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 13:06 GMT
#2100
I forgot to put Zentor in potential townies seeing as its agreed on his ability should be considered pro town.
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 13:20 GMT
#2102
On December 20 2011 22:11 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
lol i know who pushed for him. Radfield and I. Do you even read the thread? And why did you claim vanilla Townie right now?


Did you see that i stated that people who pushed hardest for him are not automaticly scum? Scum problaly didnt even have to push hard for him with all the people jumping on board so easy.

As for claiming, I'm town. Claimed it before when i tried to run for mayor day1. Didnt know back then that's its impossible to get elected if you arent a TL veteran with scumhunting credits or confirmed green/blue. Which is fair enough, lesson learned.

Any thoughts on the 8 scumpotentials ?
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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 13:52 GMT
#2104
On December 20 2011 22:23 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Yes. Can you rank them somehow? I mean 8 is a lot.
I'd also like to see some reasoning behind these people. You should at least filter them if you put them on your list.


First, to answer your question to an extent, my number one is Nyc for scum. Reasoning is that this is done by elemination of people confirmed/high potential town, leaving the others to be potential scum.

Secondly, i've just read through your filter and all you really do is post that you want opinions from mainly newby where you supply them a list and put them to work.

Only real post you make is 6 days ago:

On December 14 2011 01:50 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
mhh tbh i only read the thread once and so far i see a lot of players posting nonesense.
zeks and risk performance pretty poorly... zentor might be coached scum.
sheth looks like town to me. i got to reread prplhz and greymist since my reads on them have been pretty acurate in the past...
erandorr being afk means he's scum. however this game is special, maybe he relys on curu.
curus scumplay isnt less active compared to his townplay...
yes. thats it so far.
right now i am at the university and i have a meeting later on like 100km from here.
i guess i'll be at home 3 hours before the lynch and try to talk to annul. i hope he can be around at the deadline.
thats it so far



The rest is (good) argueing and responding to other people but you never really contribute yourself. And now you repeat this with me, asking for more info. How about you give some yourself?
Like you promised 2 days ago:

On December 18 2011 01:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
hmm after filterin almost everyone individually, I made a scumranklist including scummyness of every player in this game. I'd like to discuss that list especially with radfield, Palmar and Syllo.
Do you think it's better to post that list now or better at the end of the night.
I think I got some correct and well reasoned townreads on several players... Maybe that would make them to scumtargets...
Although the advantage to discuss that list today is that we lay down more pressure on the people who I don't have a townread on and we have more time... So what do you think...

Moreover I know that you, Palmar and Syllo, already have such a list aswell. However I think we have some differences.
If we exchange our opinions, I guess we could nail down most of the scumteam...


Never delivered on this list so how about you give us your top 3 with reasoning? Would be very helpfull i think.

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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 16:00 GMT
#2118
On December 21 2011 00:40 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 23:24 Radfield wrote:
Evantrees, can you please claim in full.

Greymist, you should claim in full as well.


I'd like to lynch comprissent today. He has done nothing all game, has consistently promised future analysis/activity but has continually not done so.


Please do. He has been my number one for a great long while now.

In response to [TNTP] asking for my top three, and explanations.

1st place: Comprissent is Top on my list. I posted a detailed case about him in the beginning after GreYMisT accused me of being mafia. Not sure if anyone commented on it or even read it. Since then, he only comes in to defend himself and keep people from lynching him. He posted one piece of analysis, which I didn't really see as helpful anyway. However, I acknowledge i'm tunneling him pretty hard, so maybe that's why I think he's useless/scum.

2nd place: My next suspect is nyczbrandon. Again, hasn't posted much and shows actually to be pretty useless. Might be a townie, but I think he's mafia trying to lay low and not garner suspicion. Looking through his filter, there actually really doesn't look like anything that stands out to me other than the fact that nothing stands out to me.

3rd place: This spot is the void that was Greymist. As of now, it has been replaced with Deus-Ex-Mafia. For an experienced Hydra, he hasn't contributed almost anything in the way of solid analysis of any one player, and just keeps asking other peoples opinions on what they think of other players. Looking at everything, I also think he has done a lot to divert attention attention to other players. Right now we are at a lull looking for people, but instead of asking others opinions, he should be looking for his own and giving his own speculations.

With that being said, I still feel Comprissent is a strong-mafia read. Look, Comprissent is so scummy, he must be afraid of walking near pools for fear of falling in. He never contributes to town discussion, save to shed the spotlight and put it on someone else. He never posts except to defend himself, and than when discussion moves to someone else, he's back to sitting in the shadows.

There are alot of lurkers in this game, and all of the have equal chance of being scum, but Comprissent is the strongest read for me. Watch, guaranteed he will come back within the next two pages and post some long winded counterattack against me trying to, yet again, divert attention from himself. Start. Posting.

##Vote: Comprissent

Come at me, bro.


This is in line with what i have on paper at the moment and what i posted earlier in terms of who is scum in my book. For me, Nyc is on spot one. More so because Comprissent is just so inactive it might just be bad town play instead of lurky scumplay.
Deus-Ex isn't scum to me but if he keeps asking for info without supplying any himself, im gonna have to look into it again and consider what you just posted concerning him.
Good post and for now ##Vote: Nyczbrandon
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Cwave
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 16:12 GMT
#2120
Some other people are saying they got townreads on
zeks
TotallyNotTwoPeople
I haven't looked into this people myself yet but assuming I agree.


[image loading]

While i agree with the names in there, you cant just put them on green if you haven't even checked them out. Or state who these people are that say they are on our good side.
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 20 2011 16:15 GMT
#2121
@ Risk.nuke
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December 20 2011 16:57 GMT
#2128
On December 21 2011 01:47 risk.nuke wrote:
Cwave take your idiotic arse elshwhere and stop questioning or insulting me at every turn. I was going to check them, I never blindly trusts.

And knock of with the whole I voted for curu first. I don't care if you put a mini subpost somewhere on how curu might be scum. Mafia does that to eachothr all the time, also infact everyone at some point writes something small about everyone. You're all mistaking if you think that a little useless post against curu that accomplished nothing and means nothing will gain you more towncred depending on the time of it's posting.


I dont care what you are gonna read or are gonna check. I care for information or stuff you actually have. Same goes for Deusex promising a list but never giving any. I know you are highstrung but calling me idiotic for questioning assumptions you are making doesnt call for uncreative qq. And look, you have now promised us to look into them. Bueno.
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 21 2011 14:28 GMT
#2301
On December 21 2011 23:13 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:20 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
mhhh I changed my mind. I am not going to watch Radfield for sure.
I got 3 people on my paper and I am going to roll a dice.


Nuclear launch detected


Lol what?
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Cwave
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Netherlands313 Posts
December 21 2011 14:55 GMT
#2304
On December 21 2011 23:48 zeks wrote:
small quirk of mine..

i notice a lot of people are spelling deus-ex-mafia's name wrong

its dEus not dUes



On December 21 2011 06:32 zeks wrote:
btw i have security of defense power from Arc


Assuming you have security of defense power and assuming that means you have a nuke--> you now nuked someone(Dues??), we are now waiting for a modpost?

Why launch now?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 10:09 GMT
#2373
Unless Zeks did some ultrapowerplay as scum by shooting Seth, he is now #12 confirmed town(myself included as i'm a vanilla townie and this is my excel)
  • bumatlarge
  • Liquid`Sheth
  • ProfessorBadass
  • #4
  • #5

  • [blue]Spaackle/blue]
  • prplhz
  • GiygaS
  • [blue]evantrees[blue]
  • Eiii
  • xsksc
  • VisceraEyes
  • nyczbrandon
  • Comprissent
  • Cwave
  • Arctocod
  • MrZentor -> Claimed, noone counterclaimed
  • Greymist -> Claimed, noone counterclaimed

  • jaj22
  • DEUS-ex-MAFIA
  • TotallyNotTwoPeople
  • Refallen
  • risk.nuke
  • Jitsu
  • Radfield
  • cascades


Those last 8 have a high chance of containing the last 2 scum(sidenote: If greymist,Mrzentor and zeks are town as they claim and state)
Scumflag from me will be on Cascades. Risk.nuke on watch as he insults when pocked. Might be personality, might be scumpanic.

I also agree with selecting two candidates and dividing who is voted by who.

On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:

1. jaj22 - Radfield
5. Comprissent - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield

3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield - Zeks
24. cascades - Zeks

I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up


Good list Zeks. But..... Comprissent was lynched. We only have 12 alive in our town.
Why is he in there in your list?

To continue, it means 3/5 unconfirmed including Cascades on Zeks and 5/8 unconfirmed on Radfield. Is that strict enough to prevent mafia tempering with the election? Would a larger gap between 1 and 2 not give us a safer construction?

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 10:17 GMT
#2374
On December 22 2011 19:09 Cwave wrote:
Unless Zeks did some ultrapowerplay as scum by shooting Seth, he is now #12 confirmed town(myself included as i'm a vanilla townie and this is my excel)
  • bumatlarge
  • Liquid`Sheth
  • ProfessorBadass
  • #4
  • #5

  • Spaackle
  • prplhz
  • GiygaS
  • evantrees
  • Eiii
  • xsksc
  • VisceraEyes
  • nyczbrandon
  • Comprissent
  • Cwave
  • Arctocod
  • zeks -> Shot Seth
  • MrZentor -> Claimed, noone counterclaimed
  • Greymist -> Claimed, noone counterclaimed

  • jaj22
  • DEUS-ex-MAFIA
  • TotallyNotTwoPeople
  • Refallen
  • risk.nuke
  • Jitsu
  • Radfield
  • cascades


Those last 8 have a high chance of containing the last 2 scum(sidenote: If greymist,Mrzentor and zeks are town as they claim and state)
Scumflag from me will be on Cascades. Risk.nuke on watch as he insults when pocked. Might be personality, might be scumpanic.

I also agree with selecting two candidates and dividing who is voted by who.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:

1. jaj22 - Radfield
5. Comprissent - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield

3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield - Zeks
24. cascades - Zeks

I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up


Good list Zeks. But..... Comprissent was lynched. We only have 12 alive in our town.
Why is he in there in your list?

To continue, it means 3/5 unconfirmed including Cascades on Zeks and 5/8 unconfirmed on Radfield. Is that strict enough to prevent mafia tempering with the election? Would a larger gap between 1 and 2 not give us a safer construction?



Fixed list. ffkin code.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 12:33 GMT
#2381
On December 22 2011 21:26 Refallen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 20 2011 22:04 Cwave wrote:
  • jaj22 (Replaced MarserBlood) dunno
  • nyczbrandon lurker/reactive instead of proactive
  • GreYMisT Claims Medic(no counterclaim)
  • DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oldie
  • Comprissent lurkerish
  • TotallyNotTwoPeople Oldie
  • [blue]Spaackle/blue] the Politician
  • Refallen Vote error
  • Cwave vanilla town
  • zeks relaxed and pro town thinking
  • MrZentor Claims Floridian(cant confirm for town). Posts weird and scummy at times.
  • risk.nuke ADHD
  • prplhz Secret Service Agent
  • GiygaS Radical Protester
  • evantrees null
  • Arctocod the vanilla town
  • bumatlarge Mafia Godfather
  • Jitsu null
  • Radfield Pro town posting.
  • Eiii the District Attorney
  • xsksc the Private Investigator
  • Liquid`Sheth prob town
  • VisceraEyes the anarchist
  • cascades null
  • ProfessorBadass Mafia Minister of Propaganda


Thats 2 confirmed scum, 3 unconfirmed

5 dead confirmed blue and 2 alive blue(Giygas), Greymist(unless there where no doctors at the start of the game but thats a very slim chance).

1 dead confirmed town(arctocod) and 1 confirmed alive(myself) and 4 potential townies(Deus, Zeks, Radfield, Liquid'Zeth, )

That leaves jaj22, nyczbrandon, Comprissent, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Refallen, evantrees, Jitsu, cascades for 3 scum spots.

3 out of these 8 have a high potential to be scum and for now, Nyc is my prima suspect unless he puts up a good case why he shouldnt hang from a tree.







Cwave, this post interested me, especially the part about Liquid`Sheth being probably town. What made you think he was town?


He posted calm and constructive, tried to contribute and had good posts with arguments about people in the spotlight. I didn't see scum in him.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 13:04 GMT
#2385
On December 22 2011 22:00 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 20:26 risk.nuke wrote:
What do you people read in from the day three vote?

I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote:

1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing.


Yeps, im sleeping when the game day/night ends.

\o> Dutch
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 13:39 GMT
#2388
On December 22 2011 22:00 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 20:26 risk.nuke wrote:
What do you people read in from the day three vote?

I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote:

1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing.


And i didnt switch to Cascades as i believed Nyc had a higher potential to be scum.
Turned out he was just... not usefull & active.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 13:51 GMT
#2390
On December 22 2011 22:43 Radfield wrote:
I fully agree with zeks at this point.

His voting list is good, and he should definitely be intelligence officer. Additionally it makes sense for me to be postmaster general, as then the two of us can co-ordinate our roles.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 14:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Radfield, Did you use your first medic shot?


I actually messed up and went out drinking, then came home to find that the PM I thought I sent to Kita was not actually sent. I had planned on protecting you though Greymist, so it's all good anyways. I still have two protections left.

I will be gone almost all today, and much of tomorrow unfortunately.

I still have a slight town read on cascades, so would prefer to not lynch him today, but I would not be particularly sad if he was lynched.

I am still suspicious of both Refallen and Cwave, but both have little things that make me think they are town. I would not be at all against lynching either one.

The Marserblood replacement should be looked into, and possibly lynched depending on what he has actually done....

Jitsu I'm unsure of, as I haven't read his filter in quite some time.

In fact, I need to reread all these filters to get a real good picture of who to lynch, but I simply won't have time over the next two days. I'm happy to defer to who you guys think is the best lynch between those 4(5).

In relative order of scumminess:

Scummy
Cwave
Refallen
Cascades
Marserblood(jaj)
Jitsu

Prob Town
TnTP
risk.nuke
dues-ex

Town
Zentor
Greymist
Zeks


You list me as scummy but then give a hint at me having town hints. Nowhere do you post anything constructive to support this....
To repeat, im vanilla town and it's a mistake to lynch me. Provide a case for me being town/mafia or focus on something actually usefull. If you can't, dont be so useless with making mediocre posts.

Also selecting you for an office job when you can't even execute your given role(medic......) in the first place does not computee. More so when you allready state you are gonna be afk for this day cycle.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 15:39 GMT
#2408
Pulled from kitaman his posts which contain errors.

Day One Election Final Tally

Radfield : risk.nuke, zeks, Jitsu, Spaackle, Comprissent, Nisani201, MarserBlood, cascades, Bumatlarge, Cwave, Liquid`Sheth, ProfessorBadass, DEUS-ex-MAFIA,
ProfessorBadass : GreYMisT, xsksc, prplhz, GiygaS, Eiii, Refallen, Radfield
DEUS-ex-MAFIA : TotallyNotTwoPeople
TotallyNotTwoPeople : evantrees
prplhz: Arctocod
The 3 out of 5 confirmed mafia go for Radfield day1. Assumption is that due to the withdrawel of Arctocod, they could have all voted for the same target(Radfield)


Final Election Tally Day Two

GiygaS : evantrees, Cwave, TotallyNotTwoPeople, VisceraEyes, Radfield, bumatlarge, risk.nuke, MrZentor, cascades, nyczbrandon, Arctocod
Arctocod : ProfessorBadass, GiygaS, GreYMisT, Jitsu, Refallen, DEUS-ex-MAFIA
DEUS-ex-MAFIA : Liquid`Sheth
The 3 out of 5 confirmed mafia all go for a different target day2. Assumption that the strategy by the mafia is to divide over the candidates to avoid voting patterns being noticed. Bumatlarge needs a friend to vote with him so that gives Evantrees/Totally/Risk/Cascades as a potential. Then Prof also needs one friend to vote with him in their pool. Jitsu, Refallen or Deus.

Day Three Election Final Tally


DEUS-ex-MAFIA : Radfield, risk.nuke, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Comprissent, GreYMisT, Liquid`Sheth, zeks, nyczbrandon, GiygaS, jaj22
GreYMisT : Jitsu, Cwave, MrZentor, Refallen, evantrees, DEUS-ex-MAFIA,
Liquid`Sheth : cascades

The confirmed 1 out of 3 mafia goes for Deus. Assuming the spread is continued Cascades stands out for voting on Seth. Among the voters of Greymist there is a high chance of a scum spreading out the love. Refallen, Jitsu and Deus-ex-Mafia stand out.

Day One Lynch Final Tally

Spaackle (11): Eiii, Refallen, Radfield, xsksc, GreYMisT, evantrees, ProfessorBadass, Liquid`Sheth, nyczbrandon, risk.nuke, MrZentor
MrZentor (6): Cwave, MarserBlood, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Spaackle, Comprissent, zeks
Nisani201 (4): Arctocod, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, GiygaS, prplhz,
Comprissent (1): Jitsu
GiygaS (1): Bumatlarge

The 2 out of 5 confirmed mafia go for Spaackle. 1 goes for Giygas. Can’t pull much from this one.


Day Two Lynch Final Tally

ProfessorBadass: Arctocod, DEUS-ex-MAFIA, Refallen, GreYMisT, VisceraEyes, Comprissent, Liquid`Sheth, Jitsu, GiygaS, zeks, bumatlarge , evantrees, cascades, MrZentor, nyczbrandon, Radfield
nyczbrandon: Cwave,
GreYMisT : TotallyNotTwoPeople
risk.nuke : ProfessorBadass

2 out of 5 confirmed go for ProfessorBadass. ProfB goes for risk.nuke. Notice how Seth starts after which bumatgoes as well since the lynch picked up speed. High chance of all scum being in there since ProfBad even posts a give up post.

Day Three Lynch Final Tally

Comprissent : Radfield, Jitsu, evantrees, TotallyNotTwoPeople, MrZentor, zeks, Refallen, jaj22
cascades : DEUS-ex-MAFIA, risk.nuke, Comprissent, GreYMisT, GiygaS
nyczbrandon : Liquid`Sheth, Cwave, cascades,

The 1 out of 3 mafia goes for Nyc.

Looking at this from a helicopterview I would like everyone to reevaluate Jitsu, Deus-ex-Mafia and above all, Cascades some more.
My vote is reserverd for Cascades for now.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 22:28 GMT
#2435
Welcome to Election Mafia! You are a member of the general electorate! You may not have any special powers, but if you and your senior citizen friends band together, you can become a serious force at the voting booths. You win with town.

Vanilla Town
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#2460
In a hour i'm gonna be heading to the airport to board my flight and i won't be back online till after the day ends.
To repeat, im a vanilla townie and today i election voted on Radfield and lynch voted on cascades.

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 23 2011 17:44 GMT
#2483
From the airport wifi i want to express that if you decide to sheepvote me, please take a look at the people gunning for me just now. Cause im gonna flip town and it will look mighty silly. Furthermore, has everyone roleclaimed? Cascades has not posted anything that makes him be one of us townies since we started this day. Last time this last hour vote switching started Spaackles died and ProfB was outed as scum cause he was so obvious. If you voteswitch to me from Cascades, history will repeat itself.

Cwave. Town. Green. Bad to lynch......


I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 23 2011 17:55 GMT
#2484
On December 24 2011 01:12 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
I already noticed the general tendency to be hostile to veteran players...
Cwave was the one who started this... Cascades has one or two posts with similar content.
Since I think that Curu is/was probably the only vet in the scumteam this behaviour makes sense for scum.

I can't see why a townie would want to attack experienced players. It's not exactly contributing to our goals.


This is why i find your play bad Deus. No contribution and just hogging lines. For you as a vet your effort to help our town has been mediocre and lined with post containing the mandatory lines and then an question at someone random. Nowhere are you confirmed, usefull or playing for the town. Only reason you are of some use is cause you get stuff in elections.

Does everyone realise that people that have powers or win elections can be scum? Or is lynch all VT's who roleclaim till they are all dead the way its gonna go down.

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 23 2011 18:11 GMT
#2489
On December 24 2011 03:02 TotallyNotTwoPeople wrote:
Updated list of claims
Known:
2. nyczbrandon
3. GreYMisT
5. Comprissent
7. Spaackle
11. MrZentor
13. prplhz
14. GiygaS
15. evantrees
16. Arctocod
17. bumatlarge
20. Eiii
21. xsksc
22. Liquid`Sheth
23. VisceraEyes
25. ProfessorBadass

Claimed:
1. jaj22
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople
8. Refallen
9. Cwave
12. risk.nuke
18. Jitsu
24. cascades

Dear Leader:
10. zeks
19. Radfield

@Cwave
Show nested quote +
Does everyone realise that people that have powers or win elections can be scum? Or is lynch all VT's who roleclaim till they are all dead the way its gonna go down.
Deus claimed VT. You want Deus lynched but think lynching claimed VT's is dumb? Well, either way, if you disagree with the lynching claimed VT's, which known or claimed power roles would you like to see dead?


People can lie about their roles.... And some of the confirmed are not 100% confirmed town.
Cascades i would lynch. Deus is would investigate if possible before lynching.

Last post possible today. Back after deadline to see if people come to their senses and didnt hang cwave, the VT....


I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 24 2011 07:03 GMT
#2563

Good luck town!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 31 2011 09:55 GMT
#2819
GG!
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