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On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.
I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.
He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate).
yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed.
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No scum would ever play the way I am doing right now. Scum doesn't want to be the ones who takes action. So say I'm scum and I lynch greymist who then would be town. Next day I would have to fight for my life not to get lynched not to mention all my town cred would be gone. Tell me that is scumplay.
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On December 14 2011 11:41 ProfessorBadass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:39 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.
I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.
He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate). yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed. You stopped it? Is that a fucking joke? In case you haven't noticed Nisani is still the leading wagon. It'd be infinitely easy for me if I were scum to bury myself on that wagon since I have a history of policy lynching Nisani/sinani.
lol, calling bullshit. Nisani is leading due to inactive people who went to sleep, like I should had done 3 hours ago. I was the first one to speak up against those wagons. and you're still trying to get me lynched.
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How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow.
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On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow. my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it. If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now?
It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum.
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On December 14 2011 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow. my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it. If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now? It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum. If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes? the flawed logic...it burns me...
Instinct.
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On December 14 2011 12:02 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow. my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it. If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now? It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum. If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes? the flawed logic...it burns me... Instinct.
And I said I was ten times more sure on you then on anyone else. and 100 times more so then on people like Nisani, Speccles and Zentor.
+ Show Spoiler +I hit the edit instead of quote button
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Atleast speccles is a better choice then Nisani and Zentor.
When radfield said that it became pretty much decided. Mafia had no way to stop or change that unlike the nisani and zentor cases. Also this should atleast give us some more info about radfield since he choose it by himself. Maybe rereading the thread will give some more info.
On December 14 2011 12:06 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 12:04 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 12:02 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 12:01 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 12:00 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 11:56 xsksc wrote:On December 14 2011 11:54 GreYMisT wrote:On December 14 2011 11:51 risk.nuke wrote:
How about we go with greymist based on the fact that even thoguh his name have come up multiple times not a single one supports the idea to the slightest. If we assume mafia won't influence to get one of their scumbuddies lynched that makes him an as good as and better candidate then anyone else. And if I'm wrong all my towncred is gone and you can try to lynch me tomorrow. my name has only come up multiple times only by you, and even though i have asked for your actual reasoning like 4 times, you always ignore it. If you wanted us to lynch Grey, Risk, why not make a strong case on him? You're so sure of him being scum, but I haven't seen anything scummy about his play thus far. I know you're capable of making a good case, I've seen you do it before, why not now? It's much harder then it looks to make a strong case day 1. The example that was brought up before. I suspected Toad and Ciryandor to be scum. My gut told me Ciryandor (who was scum) but I could build a good case on Toad who then turned up to be town. Altough in my defense he kept playing scummy and half the observer QT was convinced he was scum. If its hard to make a strong case day one, then how is it possible that i am confirmed scum in your eyes? the flawed logic...it burns me... Instinct. And I said I was ten times more sure on you then on anyone else. and 100 times more so then on people like Nisani, Speccles and Zentor. + Show Spoiler +I hit the edit instead of quote button and how can you possibly expect us to lynch someone purely based on your instinct with no evidence whatsoever?
What do you think you do day 1. Scumslips is wifom or chance, in the end what matters is instinct.
I'm sorry I haven't slept for a while and didn't have the energy to do better. I hoped you would realise how crystal clear it is that I am town and vote for him because my guess is as good as any and mine would atleast be from a townie and a proper guess instead of some mafia influenced bandwagon that will guarranteed hit a townie.
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On December 14 2011 12:31 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 12:24 zeks wrote:
Switching through 3~ish candidates in the last minutes is pretty bad Radfield
Hope it doesnt come to this tomorrow. Yep, that seems to be my style these days  Day 1 is not my strong suit, but I can guarantee I will do better Day 2 I have plenty of time over the next few days. If I was scum, I would doublestack Arctocod tonight. I highly recommend all medics cover them, it leaves mafia free to snipe other players, but I think that is an OK trade-off. There is a chance that Arctocod removed themselves in order to buy town credit. I find this highly unlikely: 1. If Arctocod was scum, they would have removed me from office, as I am far more likely to find them out than any other player. 2. That would be a substantial waste of a very important role. We don't know what elections will be in the future, and some may be very beneficial for mafia to get. Using it now to buy a little town cred is a waste. 3. Mafia wants the elected roles filled with mafia. If they used the ability on themselves it simply allows a chance for a different townie to get elected.
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@Rafield: You leave out the possibility that you might be scum. I really didn't like how you handled yesterday. And by that I mean you handled yesterday like as scum would handle yesterday.
@Arctocod It involves money and bribes
@Prplhz: Calm down, don't direct protection at a single person that's a waste. I think medics should focus on Arctocod me and Dropbear.
I find something as specific as the kidnapping term very suspicious. Deus-ex Your story is you took it from eventrees but you didn't question why he thought it was kidnapping, instead you choose to go use it yourself. I don't really buy that.
And sorry everyone else for my terrible performance yesterday. I had a couple of hours sleep, went up 5 am and the night post was 4 am so I was tired.
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I voted speccles because a lynch on nisani wouldn't had given us any information at all and he is probably town. When I voted I just checked z-bot and it said 2 on speccles and 5 on nisani so I voted to ensure it was speecles instead of nisani because the flip would atleast give me a better read on radfield. I did not want to lynch either.
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On December 15 2011 00:11 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 23:52 risk.nuke wrote:
I voted speccles because a lynch on nisani wouldn't had given us any information at all and he is probably town. When I voted I just checked z-bot and it said 2 on speccles and 5 on nisani so I voted to ensure it was speecles instead of nisani because the flip would atleast give me a better read on radfield. I did not want to lynch either. Why are you so bad now? You're somtimes good?
As I said, I was terrible last night and I am sorry. Now I'm just trying to explain how my train of thoughts went last night. I don't think ViceraEyes is mafia, he was the instant bandwagon target after MrZentor. I know he was brought up before that but if he was mafia I think they would had stopped it. Arctocod reread what happend last night between Your withdrawal post and the nightpost, focus on Radfield and tell me what you think of his actions and consider Radfield was a person who had the entire town in his palm and he knew at anytime he could influenced anything to happen.
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On December 15 2011 00:48 prplhz wrote:
@risk.nuke Why do you think that medics should focus on Arctocod, you and DropBear. Why do you think DropBear is worth protecting, he's been useless so far. And you haven't been too impressive either as you acknowledge yourself. Why do you even think we have three medics, that would be hilariously OP combined with the elected officials.
I think it's unlikely we have more than one medic, but no matter what, if people have a way to protect Arctocod then they are going to do it. NO EXCEPTIONS, NO EXCUSES. If Arctocod dies tonight and later some medic claims to have protected the friendly neighborhood Balrog day1 because he "had a good feeling about him", then that medic dies. I think medics are pretty bad on this forum, so they need to have this explained to them with a sledge hammer.
Arctocod is a good scum hunter, and he's active, and we have no reason to believe that he's scum yet. Protect him.
26 player game, there is no telling how many protection roles we have but you're missing the mainpoint, if medics will be focusing on 3 people most likely mafia wont be willing to risk going after anyone of us. this is pretty basic. As for me, I am town and if I don't get medic protection or atleast mafia belives there is a chance i am protected and aren't willing to gamble a kp on me I will ket killed tonight. Mafia isn't as slow as town, they know it's just a matter of time before I convince you I am town, it will save them alot of trouble to get rid of me now before I have proven myself town and will have protection.
I think for a 26 man game with we'll have atleast 3 protective roles very possibly more, but I don't know what the blue roles look like. we might have something else to compensate but that doesn't matter. The important part is mafia don't know either and we can discourage them from going after either one of us 3.
Why dropbear. He's a good player, and I don't think he is scum. He will likely prove his worth if he lives.
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On December 15 2011 00:53 Arctocod wrote:
I approve of explaining with sledgehammers.
Who do you want sledged in the face?
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Say what you will but I've forced more reactions out of people then most of you combined.
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On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight.
That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him.
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On December 15 2011 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 03:05 risk.nuke wrote:On December 15 2011 03:00 Radfield wrote:
I agree completely on dropbear. He would be my number 1 target for a vig hit tonight. That's insanely stupid. Player who have the potential to be of great use to town should never be vig'd. And rofl at vigging him this soon. What's to say he isnt jsut trying to stay under the mafia rader so he can live and be of great use to us later in game. Fucking idiocy to kill a person like that and even more useless to waste a vig on him. You know, mafia have potential to be of great use to town. Should we never vig mafia? Who is YOUR number-one vig target risk? Clearly you have an idea, or you wouldn't have insinuated yourself into the discussion...
I don't understand your first sentence.
Read my filter before you fos me.
If I were a vig I'd hit greymist.
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You're the guys with double moral. You want to elect a good player despite alignment to keep them alive, the next thing you want to shoot dropbear because he hasn't done anything yet. That's a load of... ... ... and as far as I am concerned by beeing quiet dropbear atleast haven't caused town a ton of harm like radfield. You didn't even comment on what you thought of me running to keep it out of scumhands. wtf was that. I mean you should atleast have said what you thought of it, good idea, bad idea, something but the fact that you just ignored it and told everyone to vote the professors makes me so damn uneasy on you and it's by far the scummiest thing I think you did last night.
And greymist as far as I am aware is just decent at mafia, plain average. And if I were a vig I'd vig the one I have get mountainhigh scumchills on without hesitation.
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On December 15 2011 03:36 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 03:30 risk.nuke wrote:
You're the guys with double moral. You want to elect a good player despite alignment to keep them alive, the next thing you want to shoot dropbear because he hasn't done anything yet. That's a load of... ... ... and as far as I am concerned by beeing quiet dropbear atleast haven't caused town a ton of harm like radfield. You didn't even comment on what you thought of me running to keep it out of scumhands. wtf was that. I mean you should atleast have said what you thought of it, good idea, bad idea, something but the fact that you just ignored it and told everyone to vote the professors makes me so damn uneasy on you and it's by far the scummiest thing I think you did last night.
And greymist as far as I am aware is just decent at mafia, plain average. And if I were a vig I'd vig the one I have get mountainhigh scumchills on without hesitation. Have you even played with dropbear before?
Yes in xlv, but I'm not really sure how he played that game. I am of the understanding that he is a good player, am I wrong becauuse that's the only relevant thing, not if I've played with him before.
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On December 15 2011 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:02 risk.nuke wrote:No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum. same for Zentor. Why? Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing. Okay, this post. What is going on with this post? He's threatening to attack anyone who votes for the 2 present lynch candidates (or so I gather from the thread - the consensus seems to be that the lynch is either Zentor or Nisani). Why? Because if they were mafia, their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. You know, like he's doing here. He backs it up with fear tactics (Bandwagons almost always "influenced by mafia") and imaginary statistics (99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing). My read on risk.nuke gets redder and redder. Why isn't anyone considering this guy seriously?
You do realise that YOU are nisani...
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