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On December 07 2011 11:27 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2011 11:19 redFF wrote:On December 07 2011 10:43 Zephirdd wrote:On December 07 2011 10:37 Mattchew wrote:
zeph feelings on red?
And I am getting the strange feelings about radfield as well. He just seems likes he is going through the normal town motions to throw suspicion Still on Radfield, I feel that way too but the thing is: if he isn't scum, he is doing a great job. If he is scum, he is playing really well. Should we come to that, Radfield should be our lowest priority in anything. redFF gives me an odd feeling. He is acting retarded, as if he was trying to be so annoying that people end up ignoring him(see Serejai on XLVII). Any and every all-caps post from him were retarded, and he seems lazy when writing. However, his last response is at very least decent. I'm completely null on him. if i'm retarded then you are??? retarded posts =/= retarded person. This post I'm quoting is an example of that. Also, what is the fucking point of double-posting like you do. You can use Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V and browser tabs to consolidate your posts on a single one, you don't need to hit the Post button everytime you want to make a paragraph. This creates a false feeling of contribution when in fact you aren't doing anything. Shape up please. (and with that I'm off to bed)
False, making pointless paragraphs like the one above creates a false feeling of contribution when in fact you aren't doing anything.
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radfield jack of all trades is just a generic name for a role which has a number of 1 shot abilities (in my experience)
it could be 1 shot vig, 1 shot tracker, 1 shot cop
or it could be 1 shot watcher, 1 shot medic, 1 shot roleblocker
this is how i've experienced the role anyways
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i was roleblocked, apparently.
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On December 07 2011 13:49 vaderseven wrote:
Does it mean anything that only one of the two players that died had flavor/story behind the death? Does that indicate a non scum kill?
they both have flavor
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Palmar's defense of himself doesn't even address the points made against him. His defense basically consists of calling everyone who votes him bad while falling back on a dead confirmed town not thinking he was mafia. Except syllo never said palmar wasn't scum, the closest he came to talking about palmar's alignment was "i hope you're not mafia" or something like that. Palmar's mentioning of how all the good players stayed away from his wagon day 1 serves to make any of the newer players stay away from voting him because it would make them "bad". dude has done no scumhunting and has been attempting to fuck up any pro-town atmosphere we try to create.
##Vote Palmar sorry if I'm terrible.
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@VisceraEyes I appreciate the effort but Palmar isn't getting lynched today and there are 5 other scum out there for you to catch right? Focus on somebody else. This is from prplz. Why isn't palmar getting lynched today? Why are you trying to get VE to stop attacking someone for no reason? You say "5 other scum" implying that palmar IS actually scum. This looks like a slip to me but even if it isn't this sentence is still scummy as fuck.
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You should know better than this redFF. this makes me more sure
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@zephirdd you have no idea what your talking about. I used to post a lot of one liners before we had the filter in place, so saying that im posting a lot to fill out my filter is an assumption with no evidence to back it up.
You're saying i remind you of serejai in xlvii when he was town in that.. so your point is what exactly?
I still mantain that anyone trying to nolynch yesterday was anti-town.
If corrupt's case is mildly bad, then what the hell is yours???
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On December 08 2011 01:39 Mattchew wrote:
I am slowly becoming more and more ok with lynching Palmar, and if he flips red following with the lynching V7.
Red and Eran still waiting on the roles you claim to be blocked from doing... One of them could be mafia and had their KP blocked
hahahahahahahah rolefish much? im not telling you shit.
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On December 08 2011 05:37 Mattchew wrote:
I am keeping my ##vote redFF because I have yet to see a case against someone I truly believe in. If someone can start a movement towards erandorr with a little more of a case then I can be swayed that way.
this post is so scummy I don't even.
but fuck it there's bigger fish to fry
Palmar has no goddamn scumreads
On December 04 2011 22:42 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2011 22:32 syllogism wrote:On December 04 2011 22:21 Palmar wrote:On December 04 2011 22:04 syllogism wrote:
Our EU players at the very least should be awake by now and posted: Corrupt, Erandorr, prplhz, Toadesstern. I would like to note that you are required to post at least once every 24h cycle.
Based on nothing at all, who would you lynch?
Palmar why did you ask me a question you knew how I would respond to? Did that reveal anything useful? Because I knew what your answer would be, but I was unsure how it would be formulated. Your chosen path was to to deny it decisively without trashing the idea. Which is interesting. You could've been much more careful or much more aggressive, you could have absolutely trashed the idea, or you could have carefully denied it. I'm not sure how to read it though. What made you initiate a discussion with me? Normally you just call me annoying until you figure out if I'm town or scum. I mean, I have done the same thing with sandroba, but what factors control your choice of target (me) and your change in play? You are European, likely awake and usually quite willing to start posting on your own. I don't recall ever calling you annoying, care to provide reference? I suppose the closest I can come up with is lotr where you weren't doing anything and I noted that. Annoying may not be the word you use, but just think about our last game as town together where I was running for mayor. Your approach towards me is not the same. syllo flipping town only reinforces my previous point about this being a way to plant seeds of doubts towards a very strong town player's alignment.
In addition, how would you feel about randomly lynching on day 1. I mean completely random, we just have some kinda rng generator choose our lynch for the day.
palmar suggesting random lynching day 1?
I'll direct you guys to last game where palmar was town(xlvii)
In the last 7 games I have played as town, I have successfully pushed for mafia lynch on day 1 this is a town player incredibly confident in his day 1 play. Palmar has caught scum day 1 before multiple times before, yet this game he is ok with random lynching???
On December 05 2011 23:17 Palmar wrote:FOR GLORY![[image loading]](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4414494166_53023716fd.jpg) Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 13:11 Soap wrote:
I don't get day start, no one did nothing and we have nothing to analyze. I'm rnging.
##Vote Drazerk ##Vote Drazerk
come on...
maybe it was a joke, maybe we'll see some scumhunting!!!
On December 06 2011 01:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 01:01 vaderseven wrote:
I take notes on everyone and I don't want to post them. They are shorthand and sloppy and for me. Any time I have a conclusion I post it. ok I'm a dayvig. Post your notes, every single one, unedited in the next 1 hour or I kill you.
oh no of course not sorry, we'll just see some incredibly ott and unnecessary move to get vader to post his notes. you could've just asked... All this move from palmar does is make it look like he is actively scumhunting. You wanna know something else? V7 still hasn't posted his notes, and palmar does not give a fuck.
On December 06 2011 01:42 Palmar wrote:
Ok awesome. Now you have to shoot someone. May I suggest you kill Drazerk?
he had provided no reasoning as to how drazerk was scum, he just followed soap and then demanded v7 to shoot him.
I'm not scum, just look at the people who are on my wagon, only newbies and bad people. Not a single one out of the people that actually try to play mafia with any kind of brain activity are trying to get me killed.
by saying this, Palmar attempts to make it out that everyone on his wagon is terrible/dumb, and that you shouldn't vote him unless you're terrible/dumb. nobody wants to be terrible/dumb right? It's an easy way to deter people (especially newbs) from voting him, without actually defending himself or talk about the game.
On December 06 2011 06:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 06:30 vaderseven wrote:
Lol @ the post that defends palmar and says to no lynch because no one defends him. That's because it's logical. Do you know why people like Radfield, Jackal, Syllo, Sandroba, redFF are the people I listed as good when the game started? It's because they're capable of reading a situation like this and understanding what the hell is going on.
references the vets, buddies up to us, more calling everyone voting him bad.
On December 06 2011 08:49 Palmar wrote:##Vote HierBased on a few things I'd like to vote Hier. I think voting for syllogism without good reasons early in the game makes no sense. Especially after Hier should've learned that he cannot assume that his logic is solid after XLVII. In addition, I feel the tone/direction of the case is different. His case against me in XLVII looked like it was reasonably genuine, just using naive reasoning. This case on the other hand looks like it's much more forced with a lot less content behind it. Just read it yourselves, here is his case this game: And here is his case from XLVII: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12474384Here's his XLVII filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=55311&user=55311Notice that a right after posting the initial case against me, he's around, willing to argue his ideas, keeps pushing it, because he genuinely thinks that this is the correct way to move forward. However, he didn't even post again after presenting his case against syllogism this game. Never mind actually trying to make something out of that case. I can't help but feel Hier has no actual intention of getting syllogism lynched and is simply content with not being called out. My vote, and the extra vote, are going on hier ##Unvote
##Vote Hier i already pointed out while palmar's case is fallacious, but once again. he compares a case made early day 1 to a case made late day 2. Of coures the day 2 case is going to be better/have more information. :derp:
On December 06 2011 10:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 10:15 Drazerk wrote:On December 06 2011 10:14 Mattchew wrote:
so taking out a veteran (palmar) is better than a no-lynch? Even if Palmar is town? I dont think so Palmar isn't town and even if he is it gives us a lot more information than a no lynch ever will and we won't have to deal with him trolling for another day and repeating this whole mess once more I'm town, you're terrible at mafia. By the way, I need to sleep it's 1am at my time. If I get lynched. Everyone on this wagon should take a good long hard look at their play, because there is a reason all the players who are commonly considered good have stayed the hell away from my lynch. I know my play hasn't been very productive in this game, I wanted to have a laid back/fun game after the massive pain in the ass that was XLVII. I wanted to play casually and troll around a bit, so I was happy when I got town with a fairly non-important role. That doesn't change the fact that that nothing about my play has been scummy. Anyone saying that is simply incorrect, a fact that will be proven by my lynch. I want that to sink in. If I do get lynched, you guys are taking active stance against some of the best players TL has to offer, and have the audacity to dare think you're right. You obviously aren't, but feel free to fail before you believe me. There is no excuse for voting me at this time. You will not be able to say "But Palmar was playing badly", because that doesn't make me scum. Bad != scum. And you will not be able to say that we had no better lynch, because a no-lynch is preferable to killing townies. Remember that, when/if I flip. This may be the most polarizing lynch I've ever seen in mafia, seperating good players from bad players. I am fully aware I made myself a target. Does that make me mafia? Hell no. There are only two reasons to be on my wagon when I flip. a) You're incredibly bad b) You're scum Good night.
this post is similar to his give up post in xlvii, and it's intentionally made to look the same. Did palmar think he was going to be lynched yesterday? HELL NAWW, but he posted this anyway. Once again calling everyone voting him bad, his wagon terrible etc...while not talking about anything game related.
you know what the best part is.
An anonymous vote is such a fucking scummy ability, you can put it anywhere and nobody will be any wiser, but instead palmar claimed it. He's doing this in a way to make him seem pro-town by claiming a scummy role in a townie way. But instead of putting his extra vote to good use and using it to pressure people day 1(which he has a fucking excellent track record as as town), he put it on fucking hier, a wagon that sprang up like 6 hours before day end.
I applaud the ballsiness of the claim palmar, but it isn't enough. you're mafia.
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1 line posts are not the same thing as spam lanaia
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On December 08 2011 06:44 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 06:29 redFF wrote:On December 08 2011 05:37 Mattchew wrote:
I am keeping my ##vote redFF because I have yet to see a case against someone I truly believe in. If someone can start a movement towards erandorr with a little more of a case then I can be swayed that way. this post is so scummy I don't even. once again.. people assuming scum based off accusations on themselves.
![[image loading]](http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/jackie(8).jpg)
prplz is probably palmar's buddy.
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really, people ignore my post?
@rad i agree to some extent and i would be fine with a prplz lynch today
@VisceraEyes I appreciate the effort but Palmar isn't getting lynched today and there are 5 other scum out there for you to catch right? Focus on somebody else.
prplz why isn't palmar getting lynched today? And is this a scumslip?
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On December 08 2011 07:45 prplhz wrote:
@redFF
He is not getting lynched because he is not scum. How the hell is that even supposed to be a scumslip? Do you think that VisceraEyes is doing any good with his tunneling, or do you think that his opinion becomes tainted by the fact that he can't stop obsessing about Palmar? Do you think it is easy to read VisceraEyes when he is tunneling as hard as I have ever seen anybody tunnel? What do you think about sandroba saying that you're probably town, you just can't form a coherent thought this game? What do you think about Mattchew?
dodge the question more yo
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radfield what do you think about palmar?
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SIGH
##Unvote
##Vote Prplhz
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prplz you didnt read my post like 2 pages back?
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he didn't take active part in the lynch he just sheeped syllo
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if it's numbered it's a normal game
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EPT
