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On November 14 2011 23:49 Sabin010 wrote: When do we get our roles? Shortly before the game starts. From what I have heard I think Zona are sending them out tonight. | ||
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I don't agree on withdrawing your votes to prevent mafia from bandwagoning someone. If people vote the last vote/votes to get someone lynched without providing good reasoning they are just putting themselves in the fire. Especially if they do it twice. You should only ever vote for people you want dead and only ever withdraw your vote when you no longer want the person dead. Always speak the truth and provide your reasoning and it's pretty simple. This will give town everyones reads and if we don't tolerate votechanging without providing reason why we want or don't want someone lynched we're giving mafia less swinging room. | ||
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On November 16 2011 15:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @Drazerk + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote: ##Vote: Sabin010 Bad vibes also this - On November 16 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote: Your not going to lurk the first day, come out of no where and then vote chaoser without reason. FoS sinani206 And his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=107918 @Kenpachi You seem to be following the thread, are you planning to make any contributions at some point? I don't see how posting random one-liners is going to get us anywhere. Please either start contributing, or can the one-liners and just get mod-killed for inactivity. @risk.nuke Last game I played with you you were extremely aggressive early on. This game you haven't attacked anyone yet, or even directly addressed someone. Any particular reason why you were active and aggressive last time, and are thus far being passive this game? I got agressive for two reasons, one I was 100% skrammen was town, I thought it likely I were going to get shot since I spoke up. So I went all out on toad who I thought 100% sure mafia thinking I could get the medic to save me. | ||
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On November 16 2011 22:07 prplhz wrote: You all realize that Palmar is just manipulating you, right? By giving town his reads, You're right lets kill him. Palmar can't manipulate squat unless you count that because he is sharing his reads and that makes him lean more to town. Because sharing reads is a town move which makes his candidates seem more scum. But this goes for everyone who shares his reads. You want to say that sharing your reads are deceitfull and manipulative. It seems like your point in that statement was to alert people not to follow palmar blindly. Which there was really no risk of happening. To me it looks like a way to make a subtile pro-town post and that's mafia maner. FoS prplhz | ||
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On November 16 2011 22:30 prplhz wrote: Yes, no one will pay attention to your analysis because of my one-line, muahahaha! Or maybe all the new people in this game will read twice before they trust you unconditionally. You always set yourself up as townie prophet, coming down from the mountain to converse with the plebs for exactly 3 posts before you retire up there again to meditate and achieve endless insight in the game. A lot of people may fall for this, I'm just saying that if you're new maybe you should read twice before listening to Palmar. Also, I'm not getting lynched day1, wtfux??? | ||
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I'm not okey with you not responding to a direct vote against you. | ||
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On November 17 2011 01:36 Forumite wrote: Please clarify, do you agree with the other votes and vote for that reason, or do you think me not responding is the scummy part? Neither and both. You're FoSing two people on nothing. And then there is a similar thing on Sabini. Add to that letting the vote on you slip by without a hint of defense from your side. I don't know what you are doing but it is not pro-town play and that is why I vote for you. | ||
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Wbg be mindfull so you don't accidently start tunneling. | ||
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##Vote Kenpachi | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote: perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment. | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:31 sinani206 wrote: scumbuddies ##Vote: Lanaia ##Vote: Kenpachi ##Vote: Sinani206 | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:55 Drazerk wrote: Remember when I got 3 scum on day 1? I never got a medal  You should had done a firebathero ceremony dance. | ||
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On November 18 2011 04:58 wherebugsgo wrote: I think Nisani should probably die at some point. Preferably tomorrow. Why? and lets focus on today for now. | ||
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He makes a huge case on prphlz and doesn't follow up, but goes inactive for the entire day. ##Vote: bumatlarge | ||
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On November 18 2011 09:42 Forumite wrote: Still 1 hour, 20 minutes left, not last minute yet. Personally I´m aiming for last minute inactivity. 1 hour and 20 minutes is last minute when you play a global game especially since it's night in europe. btw, why I vote for Bum but not Nisani, personally I felt much more comfortable with lynching a scummy person who tries to slip away then a scummy person who acts retarded. | ||
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The people who voted for Kenpachi, Lanaia and Sinani Lemonwalrus, GreYMisT, Zephirdd, Drazerk, On November 17 2011 09:05 Nisani201 wrote: OK EVERYONE HOLD THE PHONE! Is Kenpachi dead, or can I unvote him? Nisani claims himelf not to want to lynch kenpachi anymore, but note he doesn't unvote and 3 minutes later... On November 17 2011 09:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote: That is two lies in a game where we should be lynching all liars. ##Unvote: Coagulation ##Vote: Kenpachi Typing ## and : is a pain. ...Cybercheese nailes Kenpachis coffin. That's a scummy connection worth looking in to On another note. Town (that includes me) are playing like shit and it's going to stop now. The accused defends themselves with arguments like "you're idiots, fuck you". It's your own fucking fault for getting yourself lynched. Period. The only defense I've seen is from Lanaia who explains everything in his thoughtprocess and as result he did not get lynched, not even close. And that is exacly how every fucking one of you are going to defend yourself from now on. Copy? Then we have the accusers. I know it's easy when you feel like you have a gut feeling on someone, you want them lynched and suddenly you've just copied something just so you type a reason to vote. Enough of that lazy shit, sit down and really think why you feel like you feel. That way when asked about it later you can answer truthfully. or maybe you realised you don't actually want the person dead after all. The next person who quotes someone and votes I am going to slap. Because if townies are throwing around votes without explaining an acceptable thoughtprocess mafia can do the same and nobody can tell the difference. In short. Defend yourself by explaining your truthfull thoughtprocess. Accuse someone by explaining your truthfull thoughtprocess. Now read this out loud 3 times. | ||
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On November 19 2011 00:23 xsksc wrote: Well Palmar, here's my thoughts. I think the Kenpachi/Sinani lynches were silly. The only real scum read I have right now is on Drazerk. I'm not sure about Chaoser, I don't know his meta so it's harder for me to form an opinion on his town play. There are a couple of others I'm undecided on. People I think are town : wherebugsgo palmar risk.nuke harbingerofdoom lanaia forumite People I think are scum/I'm suspicious of : prphlz chaoser drazerk lemonwalrus That's my current opinions, I have nothing solid to go on with chaoser/prphlz/lemon though. Also, I'm really surprised I made it onto your vig list. I actually made a case on someone and stuck with it, I didn't join those ridiculous bandwagons that got two of our blues killed day 1. Okey I think I just specifically said I don't want to see lists without reasoning. So xsksc your next post better explain that list with arguments. | ||
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On November 19 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote: well, to be fair, maybe it's just best if vigis hold their shots. Good that you said that out loud. In your previous post it sounded as if you were sub-messaging viggis to shoot night 1. | ||
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On November 19 2011 00:33 xsksc wrote: The reason HoD is on my town list is because he voted drazerk before most people. I'm reasonably confident that drazerk is scum, which would make HoD almost confirmed townie to me. And yeah the prphlz thing is really just a feeling at the moment, I don't have anything solid on him. Thats a terrible reason for confirming someone as town. Now please give me arguments for your list. | ||
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FoS wbg | ||
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Reading over the thread again I definitely think prphlz should die today. Forumite is building a case on prphlz making today about lynching drezerk or prphlz http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=69#1362 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=69#1363 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=69#1364 These three posts where made withing 15 minutes of eachother and even though they greatly differ in size their common ground is they are empty contentwise, completely irrelevent. and they include a bandwagon vote on Drezerk. And if prphlz flip red. We're going to take a good long look at xsksc and zeph. | ||
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On November 21 2011 02:16 DCLXVI wrote: I don't want to be modkilled. You need to post more often then to avoid getting modkilled or you will be mobkilled. Mob: as in angry crowd with torches and pitchforkes. | ||
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I'm almost convinced RoL is town because I find it less likely a scum player would loose interest. I've been unsure on DCLXVI and Lemonwalrus but really they fall into the category as lynchable people which is mostly all you've been going after palmar and right now I'm so incredibly suspicious at you. I'm scared shitless that your role might be a godfather. These last days I've been getting very suspicious against you palmar. And It's not just what you've done I find it very interesting that you've been getting along with wbg, Most importantly none of you have questioned or brought up any of the scummy things the other have done. Imo, if one of these guys are found out to be scum we lynch them both without hesitation unless they got a fucking amazing explaination and I mean amazing and I mean the truth and I want it fast, not a couple of hours for you to cook up something in which case I will assume you've worked out a lie. My current scumteam. Prplhz xsksc Zepphird I'm convinced atleast 1 of these three is scum and potentially all three, my post. this is to odd to be ignored. However that is based on if prphlz is scum. If he flip town they go back to null-read ##Vote: wherebugsgo Palmar I'm not going to vote for him due to his getting shot claim. I think we'll find out the truth of that later. | ||
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On November 21 2011 08:20 Palmar wrote: you might as well not bother nisani. a) you're wrong. b) I won't be lynched c) even in that case, there's somewhere out there a medic who can claim to save me. The medic claim is not bulletproof, cause even if there was a medic who saved you that role might not reveal everyone who visits you which means we just know you were protected, and since you put yourself on the people medic should protect list there is a better then average chance you were protected. We can't know if scum visited you if it's like kenpachis role it might had been a detective, watcher or roleblocker that visited you and the medic won't know. or nobody protected you and in which case you can simply claim that the medic didn't want to reveal himself. It's a very adaptable claim and I'm open for all possibilitys. | ||
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"Here's a pro-tip. We lynch all liars, always, and every fucking time. No exceptions" This definitly doesn't speak in your favor. | ||
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On November 21 2011 18:33 prplhz wrote: Ofcourse you do, now that I'm trying to get you lynched...risk.nuke Since Tyrran's post somehow he became confirmed townie. I don't think he is confirmed townie, I think he is scum. I never said "kill him", You are putting words in my mouth to make me look worse. I think there was a risk of people trusting Palmar more than they should, there are a lot of new faces in this game and at the point I wasn't very sure of Palmar's alignment and I thought he was taking his "don't worry town, I'm immortal and I'm gonna find all scum for you, just wait" to an extreme. So I warned people. In this post he is very subtly defending chaoser by telling wherebugsgo not to focus on him. wherebugsgo's tunneling style can be very effective and even chaoser could easily fall to it. I have a slight scum read on chaoser so this makes me think that risk.nuke is more scum. Here risk.nuke votes for Kenpachi while following up with logic that makes his lynch seem like the better option of the two, lynching Kenpachi and lynching lanaia. The scenario he fails to mention is the best scenario, we don't lynch Kenpachi, day2 we will have more information on him and Kenpachi hasn't been scummy at all. He never actually says that Kenpachi is scummy, he just lynches Kenpachi because they are connected and according to his own logic, we hardly even get anything out of Kenpachi's death! Here he votes for bumatlarge because he made half a case on me. He said in his post that he didn't have time to make a full case on me, then he disappears for a while, I guess because he had to tend to some other business outside mafia. Again, this is a very brittle foundation for a vote. Also, if risk.nuke thinks that I'm scum, shouldn't he think that bumatlarge should at least be more townie for making a case on me? Or does he just care about a seemingly easy target? Again, he doesn't say that he actually thinks that bumatlarge is scum, it seems like his votes are mostly because he wants to vote for people. Bolded parts, why does he feel the need to say that he is town too? Why does he say that if you get lynched, even as townie, that is always your own fault? It looks like he is trying to absolve himself of all flak that could come from him voting for townies, which is all he's done this game so far. In the second paragraph he attacks people for being dumb and half arsed, but isn't he half arsed himself? His votes so far have been half arsed and he never pushed for anything so far. Also he attacks Cyber_Cheese that I'm getting a slight townread from. also Hands up everyone who thinks I'm not pushing for anyone... In this post he defends chaoser by saying the he's starting to believe he might be town, then why did he not want wherebusgo to interrogate him yesterday? He goes on to say that RebirthOfLegend is almost confirmed town just because HiroRuby was replaced. A replacement says absolutely nothing about your alignment, he didn't just lose interest he actually went cold turkey with mafia and dropped the game. He also attacks wherebugsgo and Palmar, neither of whom are giving up on their attacks on chaoser, thus sowing mistrust in their judgment. I was unsure yesterday but today I'm starting to think that chaoser might be scum, he has been attacked for not doing anything sensible ever since day1 and how does he defend himself? He martyrs and he attacks Palmar and wherebugsgo right back. This is no way to defend yourself. Also risk.nuke is attacking xsksc whose filter I've been through without finding anything incriminating. As for Zepphird, i dno lole~. Good lynch for today. ##Vote risk.nuke Also, even though I'm getting less of a scum vibe from him than I'm getting from risk.nuke: ##Vote chaoser I'd prefer if we only lynched one today and I'd prefer if that person was risk.nuke. In conclusion this post is just a huge OMGuS-post. His arguments doesn't hold against a closer check which tells us he is trying to frame me. lynch him!! | ||
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Palmar, your reasoning includes too much wifom and too little facts. And considering your facts look like this "he doesn't lose sight of the end goal while he's being scrutinized. He has all the while through defending himself kept calling people out for bullshit and attempted to create cases." I guess it's each mans opinion but that doesn't ring true in my ears. On November 21 2011 23:25 Palmar wrote: It isn't a defense. I didn't defend him around the sinani206 case. As I stated, the post was written as I read through prplhz's posts. If I had stopped there I probably would've voted prplhz, because the two things that are really off on him, are what he did around the sinani206 lynch, and what he did to try to discredit me. I didn't stop reading, I went through, and in the end, despite that I think he's town. I have explained what I think about him, and in great detail how I came to that conclusion. I wasn't straight up defending him, because I only decided my conclusion right at the end of that post. Oh no, you saw through my masterplan, I was so sure I would trick people with that! Are you 4real bro? Anyway, if people don't agree with me... just lynch him. I'm not gonna support it because I think he is town. I really don't like the fact that you're saying go ahead and vote for him but I won't. What is that? | ||
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On November 22 2011 02:15 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Why is your reply mostly in green? Did you not feel townie enough? To make it easier to read. | ||
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On November 23 2011 11:08 Lemonwalrus wrote: f5? f5. | ||
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