EPTSounds dangerous, I'm in!
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- This game follows the TL mafia ban list. If you break any of the rules, your punishment may extend beyond the scope of this game. In-game punishment may be deferred as the host sees fit in order to best preserve the competitiveness of the ongoing game. | ||
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Because that pretty freaking cool. | ||
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On November 08 2011 07:06 redFF wrote: nope, at tl mafia you can only play in one large game at a time, or thats how it was back when we had more than 1 large running at a time fair enough | ||
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With that said lets get this started right. ##Nuke: GMarshal | ||
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-Fake claimed Time-traveling vigilante in a previous game's pregame -Has failed to sign up for this game -Refused my efforts to make the nickname "Marshie" stick. | ||
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On November 09 2011 01:39 GMarshal wrote: I'm actually a bulletproof DT this game. With a tazer that lets me roleblock people. And the ability to create a double lynch. Yea well this game I am 3rd party: "The Law." No cop rises above the law, so I have the ability to put you under investigation for brutality. Also, i'm taking away your tazer. | ||
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On November 09 2011 03:19 risk.nuke wrote: I am third party "God". I can edit other peoples role in game. All three of you are now adorable kittens. ![[image loading]](http://data.whicdn.com/images/7511969/Adorable-Kittens-cats-18476032-300-225_large.jpg?1298829199) Well God risk, you just let scum win. GG no RE yo | ||
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##Vote Forumite | ||
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On November 10 2011 10:10 redFF wrote: hey look i have a report button! I got someone banned with mine pretty recently ^-^ | ||
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No pictures! | ||
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On November 11 2011 11:26 wherebugsgo wrote: You'll be fine. Just stay active or I'll lynch you. + Show Spoiler + jk I'll probably try lynching you anyway its sad that the predictions we made at the start of couples therapy did not come true: On November 02 2011 13:21 wherebugsgo wrote: $5 it's gonna come back and bite me in the ass If I'm scum I shoot prpl If I'm not scum, scum shoot prpl and get me lynched If we're both scum, you bus me If I'm town and you're scum, you "bus" me o_O Lets see if we can change that around this game. | ||
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On November 11 2011 11:48 wherebugsgo wrote: HE EDITED HIS POST SHOOT HIM Trying to form an easy bandwagon? | ||
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On November 13 2011 08:57 Zona wrote: I can accommodate that. But it's best to try not to die early! It would be a lot easier if everyone just would agree to not kill me. | ||
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I shall never forget this slight against my honor. | ||
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On November 13 2011 09:57 Forumite wrote: My name is Forumite, you hammered my father Day 1, prepare to get lynched! Inconceivable...... | ||
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On November 13 2011 10:18 Forumite wrote: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. You were supposed to be this colossus! you were this extraordinary thing, and yet he gains... | ||
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On November 13 2011 10:13 Kibibit wrote: I'm a noob to this stuff, what's a QT? (for reference, my first game of mafia ever was at IPL) QT stands for QuickTopic, its a message board that the mafia team, as well as observers and dead players, use to communicate | ||
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On November 15 2011 04:15 Forumite wrote: In about 5 hours I´m going offline to enter a rejuvenating coma, but will be online later during the next local light-cycle. Not a day goes by that I Don't wish people really talked like this. | ||
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On November 15 2011 05:23 kitaman27 wrote: lol I used to get those all the time while taking naps after classes. At least Hot_Bid has never infultrated my dreams. Maybe he incepted you! | ||
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On November 15 2011 12:09 Zephirdd wrote: Oh we're sailing already. Oh well, hope we find these hijackers. (amidoinitrite? We RP with it or can we talk normaly? lol!) GLHF GG So you are GMarshal's smurf after all! /confirm btw. | ||
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I think i saw this earlier but i would like to bring it up again here, With the multi-lynch mechanic what do people think about lynching an additional lurker for the first few days? usally the problem with the day1 lurker lynch is town doesnt scum-hunt when they are determined just to kill a lurker. however with this settup we can "tack on" another target to the lynch. | ||
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On November 15 2011 16:50 xsksc wrote: 1) I'm assuming this means focusing solely on getting 1 person lynched? If it does, we obviously want to avoid that and keep an open mind. 2) I think the multi-lynch system looks really interesting, and could be a great help if we use it properly. If we have a couple of people who are posting suspiciously then we don't have to decide which one is scummier, because we're not limited to one lynch, we can judge them seperately and lynch them both (if it comes to that). 3) We shouldn't go overboard with the use of this on lurkers, maybe lynch 1 lurker a day with it, in addition to the people we think are scum. Tunneling refers more to putting intense pressure on a single player, with the hope that they slip up in some way if they are mafia. When done well it can be quite good. but too often it only serves to sidetrack the town, and makes people think you are scum because of that. Cyber with regards to your 2nd point, as i think i answered both 1 and 3, this whole multi lynch concept is a risk, I think its up to the town to decide whether or not its something we should all go for on a day by day basis. but initially each day i feel like we should approach the game like its only majority lynch rules. Similar to WAW2 with the nukes (until it devolved into madness). | ||
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On November 15 2011 16:59 LSB wrote: What are your views about this? Should we do this? If so why? Is this directed at me? | ||
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On November 15 2011 17:16 LSB wrote: Not necessarily, I want xsksc to answer his question. But it's been brought up multiple times, and maybe we should hold a 'poll' on it. + Show Spoiler + The issue with discussing plans is that unless it is clearly town favored or mafia favored it is really easy for mafia to lurk and discuss a plan (something they probably don't care about) instead of making fake analysis fortunatly, with a 72 hour first day, we should be able to get enough info to get a reasonable lynch (or more reasonable than most day1 lynches), or identify the hardcore lurkers | ||
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On November 16 2011 01:22 Nisani201 wrote: FURTHERMORE, claiming town is not pro-scum, because it is in everyone's best interest to appear as a vanilla towie. Townies want to look green because they are green. Blues want to look green so that they are not a Mafia target. And Mafia wants to look green (most of the time) because they don't want to get lynched. and On November 16 2011 01:22 Nisani201 wrote: Sometimes Mafia has to fakeclaim a blue role as a last resort to escape a lynch. To me this seems really odd. Care to elaborate on your reasons for posting these? | ||
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I think the time for troll voting is over... From the OP: You may include multiple votes and unvotes in the same post. However, do refrain from both voting and unvoting the same person in a single post. It is possible that some role abilities are tied to the votes that are cast, so be mindful as to how you exercise your vote. | ||
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Oh, well then care to provide reasons? I'm afraid i dont speak LAL code. | ||
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So it works in games other than LotR mafia as well... | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 15 2011 15:12 DCLXVI wrote: Is it worth speculating what dangers there are in roleclaiming/lynching multiple people in a day? Both are warned against in the OP, but at some point (not now) I can see either becoming a legitimate strategy. Unless we set a low bar for lurkers, I think that many players will qualify as lurkers and so far the general consensus is to lynch them all. I don't think we want to run the risk of "hazards in store for the town that lynches too many players in a particular day" while we don't need to. Instead of setting a certain number of posts/quality to pass/fail, we can determine the 1-2 least helpful/scummiest players and agree to vote them. I don't see any merit in roleclaiming now, or even townie-claiming. If kenpachi and hiroruby would explain why they did so I would be ever so grateful. Personally I will not claim for now, but that is open to change. Both the warning in the OP and the lack of activity so far makes me hesitant to do so. But in your next post you vote for two people, both kenpachi and kbibit. + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 04:14 DCLXVI wrote: did did you just not read the thread then? That option was brought up several times. @LSB I didn't know that kenpachi always townie claims day 1, it has been forever since I have played. It still does not allow him to post 2 other useless one liners and then leave. I just don't think that you should just write off kenpachi so quickly. Zephirrd confirmed early then came back later and actually posted stuff. Once I look that over and see if it is good material I can comment more on it, but at least he posted something. Kenpachi posted useless one liners in response to hiroruby (so there was stuff to talk about, he just decided not to) and then disappeared. I want to see more out out of Kenpachi than this. If he has played enough games for this behavior to be standard, then he should know that this doesn't help the town. ##Vote Kenpachi and now for a new topic: first post is fine, counts for nothing what does this mean, you want to lynch inactive people - really? How many, how inactive, why do so? I won't accept you just "more or less agreeing" with people. That is not helpful and super scummy imo. Now after some time has passed and more topics are brought up to discuss: Once again a wishy washy agreement with the general consensus, but not actually taking a side. This is also allowing mafia get away with lying if we used it. Once again you think that it is ok for townies to lie badly, we should cut them some slack? Why are you trying to allow scum to get away with occasional inconsistencies/small lies? All Kibibit has done is to sort of agree with everyone, make excuses for potential liars, and lurk (after he says we should probably lynch lurkers.) ##Vote Kibibit How is this not a contradiction? | ||
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On November 16 2011 10:40 chaoser wrote: I didn't fabricate analysis though. Forumite built a shitty case on LSB out of nothing. The difference between him and I is that I didn't try to hide my case behind long paragraphs and shitty reasoning. I just went "lawl scum *vote*" But back onto the topic of pressuring: In XXXIX redtooth makes a bullshit case on Irish_Punk with no real reason and I followed up on his vote. There is no "leading the whole thread" in that game at all because the natural reaction to a bullshit vote is to go "wtf?", especially when clearly there was no real case in the first place. Who is going to be lead along by "lawl scum, *vote*" as the only reason for voting someone? No one, as was true in that game (people ended up voting Kurumi off 6 votes compared to the 2 on Irish) Anyway, due to the random no reasoning pressure, Irish overreacts and responds in a crazy manner. This then created discussion; At my expense though =[. More importantly, because of how he responded to the situation and how the rest of the players responded to his response of the situation, I was able to get a solid read on about half the thread and ended up pinning two other players as being mafia. My day two read/suspicious/vote was on amber was completely based around the fact that he was very flaky between voting Kurumi and being suspicious of Irish. Then I directed a vigi shot at GGQ due to how he handled the Amber lynch. Thats the problem though, because with your first vote you didnt fabricate analysis, because you didn't make any analysis until I prompted you. And This is directed at a lot of people, but whats up with reciting the history of a bunch of past games? I mean unless you are using it for meta analysis it servers only to act as filler really. | ||
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On November 16 2011 09:07 sinani206 wrote: His posts this game are nothing like what I've seem out of him before and even if I hadn't played with him before, the posts are straight up scummy. While Its too early for me to have a kickass town read on any player, I can't let this slip on by. What is this? This cannot be all you have to say about what you find "straight up scummy." I fail to see how you can come in here, call him scum, when you have barely been here yourself and this is all you have to offer. It hasn't worked in the past few games, but maybe this time this will get some sense out of you. ##Vote: Sinani206 | ||
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On November 17 2011 01:23 chaoser wrote: You justify not voting Coag because he is well known and "if he's not scum then scum will want to shoot him" because he is a good player. And yet you somehow think I'm a good lynch day one? How does that make sense? You want to give Coag a free pass for day 1 but apparently that policy of "he's good+scum will probably shoot him night 1" doesn't apply to me? When called out on not giving him a free pass you back off immediately, clearly being very wishy washy about it. This added in with your other weird logic... You clearly imply that my doing it would lead to other people doing it: You say this as if you believe people OMGUS voting on me is wrong and yet you OMGUS voted me off my strategy which you think doesn't work (it does). How does that make any sense? @Palmer ??? You have enough evidence from literally only quoting one of my posts saying that I should know sinani's meta (I don't) and that sinani is town: and then say: ??? what? How does saying I'm a green townie=power role? And how does it make sense for a mafia to claim a power role in thread? if anything you should be voting for forumite... and people talk about me being all over the place (I'm not) Go read his cases on LSB and xsksc...they're laughable... Why not vote forumite if you think he is scummy? You and I are still voting for sinani, do you think he is still the best option at the moment? | ||
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Oh right, forgot about the multi lynch thing. at least I lasted about a day before saying something dumb. What do you think about sinani though? are you of the opinion everyone else is that he will just look scummy no matter what? and therefore shouldnt be lynched? | ||
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##Vote: Lanaia ##Vote: Kenpachi | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote: Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town. ##Vote Kenpachi perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him? | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:33 Lanaia wrote: Whatever. You guys seriously think I'm scum over that? I just fail to understand why you guys would rather lynch him over sinani. That is the only reason I did it. Also, in retrospect, I have no idea why the hell I did that d1. That should be changed soon. Or you could try to convince people in the thread to vote sinani? Plus this is a multi lynch system, people can vote both sinani and kenpachi if they so choose. | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote: If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment. This is a good point, Lanaia you aren't off the hook yet, but explain to me why you decided to try and save kenpachi. Do you believe he is town? | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote: That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead? Lemon, what do you think of risk's response? On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote: If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum. If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy. If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment. If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum. I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment. Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet. | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:21 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: I'm going to hold off voting on Lanaia for now. While double voting or anti-voting is certainly powerful for both scum and for town, it is a lot less useful for scum if it is prominently announced for all to see on the vote list. If Lanaia is town, presumably scum will eventually settle the issue. If Lanaia is scum, it will be hard for her to use her ability without blatantly giving things away later on. Also, unless she thought her anti-vote would be hidden, I find it hard to believe scum would be so brash on day 1. That being said, I am going to vote for Drazerk. I said if he didn't give a good reason for his vote I'd be voting for him, and I intend to follow through on that. He seems to like trumpeting the fact that he has generally sucked as town, and overall I think his contributions have not exactly been helping to create a good town atmosphere. His repeated mentions of how much he has screwed up as town in the past combined with his plethora of 1 liners and votes with little reason behind them makes it seem like he is trying to play anti-town and get away with it because it's just his meta. Vote: Drazerk Now I'm going to reread the thread some and see if there is someone else I'd like to place a vote on as well. HoD your vote is formated incorrectly, you forgot the ##. yea Lemon thats the view I hold now, but im going to wait until lanaia gets back and can explain his behavior further before I decide wether or not to unvote him. Also Drazek/Chaoser, I was Doctor Whooves in MLP mafia, and the only time i got a red check he died that night. | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:34 Hiroruby wrote: I don't have time to post much right now, but I've read the thread, and really don't like what went down between Lana, and Ken. ##Vote: Lanaia ##Vote: Kenpachi I need to do a more in depth read of Chao before I vote him, because he is getting very close to over 50%. With 26 alive, that means at any point in the day if someone reaches 14 that person is condemned to death no matter what. Choaser is still a bit off from this amount, but we do need to wait until at least until the latter end of day1 before we add on any more votes. | ||
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So many posts in such a little timespan that say 0 things. My brain hurts. So palmar, I assume you are for double lynching both lanaia and kenpachi? | ||
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Let me help. 1. Says chaoser is playing very, very badly. 2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=128360 see my point? | ||
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##Unvote: Lanaia My reason being I don't feel its nessesary anymore for both kenpachi and her to die right now. On top of that, her role will be easy to keep in check as it gives us her name in the vote thread when she uses her power. This doesnt mean I think she is super towney, but I'm not getting that scum feel from her right now. However I did just look over prplhz and I found a lot of one line posts, votes without reasoning, and all-caps posts to make up for said reasoning. ##Vote: Prplhz | ||
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On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why? Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game. Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk. At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best. I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that: ##Unvote: prplhz ##Vote: Hiroruby | ||
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On November 18 2011 04:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote: If we discount the setup discussion posts, that leaves the last three, and he's just another lurker based on those. his filter is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=121997 What I'm saying is that making those early posts is very easy to do as mafia, and can get you some effortless town cred. then he dissapeared once we started discussing stuff. This is why he is different from the other lurkers. | ||
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On November 18 2011 05:09 Cyber_Cheese wrote: How about these people xsksc- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=282366&user=149333 Nisani201- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...=282366&user=105586 LSB- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...d=282366&user=71916 There are all in the same situation as Hiroruby, what makes you choose Hiroruby over them, except that it's the lynch Chaoser approves of? Chaoser decided to pick one of these lurkers to use as an alternate target for a "good day 1 lynch." Its not because Chaoser "approves." Even though they are lurking, at least the people you mentioned have put some work/original thought into their posts. the fact that hiroruby hasnt is the reason I think he is better than those other three. I have to write a Biology paper, but I should be back before the night post. | ||
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On November 18 2011 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote: I agree with every vote in this post. Didn't you say we need to consolidate our votes and focus on one or two people though? Don't you feel like this is a bit much considering that? | ||
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On November 18 2011 08:38 Nisani201 wrote: You do this a lot. Especially when you're scum ##Vote: wherebugsgo You really arn't ever going to provide significant reasoning for voting are you? even when that is the major case against you, you decide just to do it anyway. ##Vote: Nisani201 | ||
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On November 18 2011 09:18 Nisani201 wrote: Denying information like that is anti-town. He's done it to me before as scum. Well who do you want to lynch at the moment? aside from you most recent vote WBG. what do you think of sinani? | ||
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On November 18 2011 09:26 chaoser wrote: what a lousy trains of thought.... which train? | ||
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On November 18 2011 09:31 chaoser wrote: Everyone is OMGUSing everyone else at this point, look at the amount of knee-jerk reaction votes that are being thrown around for no reason. Obviously batman or aragorn needs to come and fix things Or theon Greyjoy | ||
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On November 18 2011 09:35 chaoser wrote: Don't you know? Theon's retired with some nice elf babes. At this point people are branching out too much with everyone jerkknee voting people. This multi lynch is starting to become a anti-town mechanic cause no one feels the need to focus and stick with 2 to three lynches. I say starting tomorrow we do a strict people-are-only-allowed-to-vote-for-two-people-a-day rule. That allows for focus and no one will be going around voting on everyone and anyone they fucking want. I agree with this policy. Even though we all have more than 2 votes out at the moment, this would definatly lessen the amount of crap we have to sift through. I'd like to know if the people not voting sinani are doing so because they generally feel he isnt scummy, or they arnt because they dont want another lynch today. | ||
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On November 18 2011 10:08 Kibibit wrote: I only haven't because I don't have any sort of coherent feelings about him. Not like it matters much, I'm generally confused about day 1 due to the lack of hard evidence besides looking at peoples posts and going "Yep, that's scummy" the reason I'm personally voting for him I have stated before, its because his arguments are almost non existant, and his rebuttals are always a couple of words designed to either incite anger or not reveal a damn thing. There is no reason for town players to act like this. Thats why I'm voting him. | ||
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On November 18 2011 10:27 sinani206 wrote: look how the kenpachi vote turned out. do you want that to happen again? We don't know kenpachi's aliengment yet, the flip hasn't happened. | ||
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because his role reveal isnt until the nightpost? because if he were red that means he could cause as much WIFOM and chaos as possible before death by saying he was green? | ||
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On November 18 2011 10:53 prplhz wrote: ##Vote bumatlarge oh my god you suck MORE PEOPLE ON DRAZERK, HIRORUBY, AND CYBER_CHEESE LESS PEOPLE ON SINANI206 THANK YOU Your last 4 posts have contained 0 reasoning and all all-caps... | ||
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On November 19 2011 01:08 xsksc wrote: Sure. People I think are town : wherebugsgo His posts seem very pro-town to me, he made a convincing case on chaoser, he didn't join the silly lynches. I don't think he's scum. palmar Same as wherebugsgo basically. I agree with most of his reads, he's made some pretty strong cases imo. His posts seem townie to me. risk.nuke I could definitely be wrong here, your agressiveness towards people I think are scummy makes you look town. However you voted in BOTH of the lynches, so I'm not too sure about you. harbingerofdoom Already said it in my other post. He was pretty agressive to drazerk early on, before he got a lot of votes, and if I'm correct and drazerk is red, HoD looks pretty town to me. lanaia I wasn't sure before kenpachi flipped, but I think she just made a mistake in revealing her role day 1. forumite He made some pretty weird cases early, I don't think scum would make such blatantly obvious attempts at starting a bandwagon, I think he was just trying to get information. He also seemed eager for a drazerk lynch, which makes me think he's town. I don't have solid cases on my scum list apart from Drazerk, and if you want to see my case on him just filter me. A lot of my list is just general vibes and feelings at the moment, some of the townies could be scum, and vice versa. Town reads don't really help us at all, What are your scum reads? If you think palmar is town, then do you agree with his case against chaoser? Similarly because you arediscounting LSB's arguments against palmar, do you think he is misguided? or is there something more sinister going on. | ||
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With the two people I voted for flipping town, I have to reevaluate a lot of my thoughts, but what I do want to call everyone's attention to is prplhz. Some of us voiced our suspicions of him during the day, but I would like to bring them to light once again. 1st off over half of his posts focus on lurkers, well beyond the time the discussion should have been over with. Like I said earlier these posts are very easy to do as mafia, so while it is not a "scumtell" persay, it definatly raises a red flag in my book. I decided to keep my eye on him, and this is what I saw. His reason to vote kenpachi: On November 16 2011 18:23 prplhz wrote: Yea I like Kenpachi as a lynch too ##Vote Kenpachi And his subsequent votes later in the day. + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 23:52 prplhz wrote: I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR DRAZERK BECAUSE HE IS SCUM ##Vote Drazerk On November 17 2011 00:12 prplhz wrote: NO CASE NEEDED DRAZERK IS SCUM On November 17 2011 11:18 prplhz wrote: START VOTING DRAZERK HIRORUBY AND CYBER_CHEESE STOP VOTING LANAIA AND CHAOSER ##Vote Cyber_Cheese ALSO WTF ABOUT KENPACHI GG SON SORRY FOR MY VOTE On November 18 2011 10:53 prplhz wrote: ##Vote bumatlarge oh my god you suck MORE PEOPLE ON DRAZERK, HIRORUBY, AND CYBER_CHEESE LESS PEOPLE ON SINANI206 THANK YOU i dont know if this is his attempt to appear as an aggressive townie, or if this is just him being bad, but If he doesnt shape up when the night ends he has my vote. | ||
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On November 19 2011 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote: lol. Ignoring prpl for now, who would you push as scum tomorrow? Who are you interested in analyzing and looking more into? Aside from prpl I would like to take a more in depth look at Bumatlarge. I felt like earlier forumite made a good point about scum probally only wanting to be on one of the lynches, and I feel kenpachi's lynch is where we are most likely to find them if what he said is true. Bum was on the kenpachi wagon, however very close to the end of the day (10 minuteish remaining) he was saying he was unsure about pushing sinani and he wanted to look more into it. While that is fine earlier on with 10 mintues left there really is no time for such delays. If he was scum that would have been the perfect way for him to distance himself from someone he knew would flip town. | ||
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On November 20 2011 00:49 Drazerk wrote: He's basically me this game which isn't good for anyone Well then by equality ##Vote: prplhz ##Vote: Drazerk I explained my reasoning for voting for prp before the daypost. In addition to the reasons a lot of people mentioned earlier, Drazerk hopping onto the "lynch prp" train with absolutly no prior suspicion or vote is really suspicious. | ||
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First it could explain the activity levels of both players. With the ability to talk with each other it is likely their activity in the thread will suffer slightly. Secondly, the fact that hyshes only soft defended drazerk when his lynch was builing also makes sense. because he knew he could just claim mason to stop it. So ##Unvote: Drazerk I can only assume that you guys have been discussing things a lot. what are your thoughts about the game now that you are essentially confirmed? | ||
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On November 20 2011 04:33 prplhz wrote: So I'm untrustworthy, yet if you had trusted me then you wouldn't have hammered a townie, thus I must be scum? Or what kind of logic are we using here? No, the logic that we are using is that you tried to save sinani ineffectivly on purpose, thusly appearing town because you "defended" a townie, while still getting him lynched. | ||
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On November 20 2011 04:03 Drazerk wrote: ##unvote: Lanaia Main scum targets for today are Nisani and prplhz So I take it you think they are both town? | ||
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Ah ok, that makes a lot more sense. | ||
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On November 20 2011 10:10 Kibibit wrote: ##vote:prplhz this wins so many points | ||
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I'm still a bit on the fence about chaoser.When he is town he has the potential to dominate, but when he is scum he is very good at deflecting his day1 lynch (pyp:i). The way in which he has only been focusing on the situation between himself/palmar as well as his suggestion for people to vote both himself and palmar, has resulted me reading slightly scum on him, though up until this point not enough to put down a definative vote. However, with recent developments i think someone replacing chaoser would be extremely detrimental, and bring us back to square 1 so to speak. Therefore, unless someone can point out any flaws in my logic: ##Vote: Chaoser | ||
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On November 19 2011 08:49 Nisani201 wrote: Why do you keep saying this? Stop dictatin what contributions I will make in the thread. You keep saying that I will be useless D2, but I know exactly what I am going to do. I'm going to push for your lynch, as well as Drazerk's. You know this is coming, whci his why, right now, you're trying to nullify everything I say by putting it under the label of "useless." That way, when Drazerk is lynched, you can take the credit. You don't want a vig to shoot me because I'll be useless. You want a vig to shoot me so you can bus Drazerk all by yourself. You're scared because you see me as a threat. If there are any vigs here, think before you shoot. I'd like to see that analysis of WBG that you promised nisani, so far all you have done is said you would focus on drazerk and wbg, and then gone and said you are going to solely focus on palmar/wbg, and then went to only make a case on palmar. I'm feeling rather short changed. | ||
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On November 21 2011 09:22 wherebugsgo wrote: Greymist the simple fact that you have to ask that of Nisani should probably tell you that he needs to die. He's not interested in being transparent or following through on what he says. He contradicts himself constantly. He's scum. He certainly does appear scummy, I'm just worried he is another misguided, loud townie. I'd like to hear his response to this pressure. | ||
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On November 21 2011 13:43 Sabin010 wrote: I need to read this thread and make a few votes. Yes, that is indeed what forum mafia boils down to. | ||
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On the case of Chaoser: It sucks that he got a replacement, as the case on him was building. I am a bit unsure how to handle this, but would like to hear his replacement's ideas on the current situation before everyone continues to vote for him (though voting for a hammered person does not bode well). Prp, it doesnt help us that you role claimed after you died -.- I'm admittadly at a bit of a loss right now. Nisani does indeed look bad as the rest of you have been saying, but vi will restate what i said earlier about my fear that he is just another sinani/prplhz. WBG or anyone else, do you have anything that differentiates nisani from these other 2 people that makes him seem more scum/malicious? | ||
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On November 22 2011 08:15 MrZentor wrote: Great, I come into the game as the most suspicious person here! As surprising as it is, Chaos is not mafia; I am not mafia. There really isn't much I can do to defend myself besides revealing my role, so until I am pressed further by more votes, I will leave it at that. its unfortunate that you came in under such circumstances. Have you finished reading the thread yet? If so who do you think is mafia at the moment? | ||
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On November 22 2011 08:35 Tyrran wrote: Do not forget Lanaia. Also, do you have any info from your role that makes you think that DCLXVI is blue and not red ( a yes/no answer is enough) Dont rolecall just now. We are going to have a LOT of info on our hand for Nigth 2, and we need to make sure we get the most out of it without revealing the specificities of it to the mafia. If I were you, i'd wait until beginning of day 3 to roleclaim. Any other move will give mafia info for they kill during the nigth. With 1 ( possibly 2) mafia kill during nigth 2, we will have to be EXTREMELY careful during the vote of day 3 ( coagulation, Sabin010, xsksc and even Lanaia : I'm looking directly at you rigth now). I think the correct move would be to have a group of confirmed town to lead the votes. That would be a good way to make sure that mafia doesnt decide the lynch. and how do you recommend we get this "confirmed town"? Only Drazerk and Hyshes come close to that right now, and they are only "very likely" to be town. No one is confirmed until the flip. | ||
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On November 22 2011 08:37 GreYMisT wrote: and how do you recommend we get this "confirmed town"? Only Drazerk and Hyshes come close to that right now, and they are only "very likely" to be town. No one is confirmed until the flip. Speaking of them, i would love to hear the input of our lovely masons right about now. | ||
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On November 22 2011 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote: good god you guys are a bunch of ... -___- WBG, to repeat the question that was lost a page back, do you think we should still lynch nisani with prp's post-mortem blue claim? what makes him different now than sinani and prp? | ||
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On November 22 2011 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote: -_- I feel like a broken record. Unless Nisani does anything additionally bad in the future, I will keep referring people back to this post specifically, since I do believe I've repeated my reasoning at least twice now. Here's the bulk of the initial case: #2 is his shift in behavior from the way he previously plays. here's more: #3, he was one of the players who was on only one of the wagons yesterday. He voted Kenpachi for really dumb reasons, then appeared to back off when he got hammered. That was shady to me even before the flip. #4, what separates him from sinani is that nisani actually has a discernible style as town and scum. In this game he has OMGUSed every single person who initially voted him (myself, Palmar, cyber) and as town he doesn't do that, generally. He's not a very good player, but he's not this bad either. Then, he continually pushed Drazerk for no reason, even going so far as to connect me and Drazerk. Unsubstantiated assumptions ftw. As town he doesn't tend to do such things, he just tunnels one player. He randomly voted multiple people day 1 and claimed he actually had reasoning for his votes despite failing to come up with them over and over. Lastly, since I thought chaoser was scum, and he straight up refused to comment on Nisani, I was increasingly suspicious that they were scum together. We can't determine that until one of them flips, of course, but it's a lead nevertheless. So you would prefer a Nisani lynch over a MrZentor lynch if you had to choose? because if I had to choose between the two, that's the direction I would go. apart from feeling like a dick for slamming the guy right when he comes in (unrelated), the way he unvoted palmar immediately and isn't freaking out about his impending death has placed some doubts in my mind. On the subject with nisani, his voting patterns have disturbed me greatly this game. In addition, i agree with the sentiment that seeing one of their flips would be quite helpful. So for now ##Unvote: MrZentor and ##Vote: Nisani201 until he can provide me reason not to. | ||
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On November 22 2011 09:28 wherebugsgo wrote: also DCLXVI is soft-claiming medic. A real medic wouldn't do that... Where do you see this? | ||
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On November 23 2011 18:37 Tyrran wrote: Okay, here is my blue reads : Lanaia : She made a dumb mistake in the early game, revealing her double vote ability. In addition to that, she migth have a weak pardonner role, as she thought for a moment to be able to save prplhz. Cyber_cheeze : He his a powerful version of a Watcher. Look at this post : He seems to know what happened to me during day nigth, so i'd say he is a mixup between a watcher and a rolecop. (maybe with a drawback of some kind as this role seems a bit too powerful). hysche : With Drazerk revealed as the weak Mason, i think we can all safely assume that hysche is the strong Mason. He is likely a Mason/Bulletproof mixup. DCLXVI: Kenpachi role was revealed as the Newbie Doctor. I beleive DCLXVI is an experienced doctor . Please have a look at :. and From this I deduce that it is likely that DCLXIV is able to protect multiple target during one nigth !, but with a drawback ( usable only once/ not every nigth?) EVERYONE PLEASE UNVOTE DCLXVI. I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER BLUE LYNCH TODAY @Nisani201 Your only argument against DCLXVI is : He has an independant stance. I show that he is likely blue. Please make use of your logic and reason and unvote him. @Palmar Now that 2 medics have been revealed, and none protected you, your hit claim looks more scummy. Mafia is confirmed to have 2KP ( as i dont think any vigilante would have been stupid enough to shoot drazerk/risk.nuke), but it would be rather easy for mafia to only use one, and for you to claim hit. A third medic is rather unlikely dont you think ? Why on earth would you post your blue reads in the thread? | ||
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On November 24 2011 05:51 Coagulation wrote: ##vote: Cyber_Cheese ##vote: DCLXVI ##vote: Forumite ##vote: GreYMisT ##vote: RebirthOfLeGenD ##vote: Kibibit ##vote: Lanaia ##vote: Lemonwalrus ##vote: Nisani201 ##vote: Palmar ##vote: Sabin010 ##vote: Tyrran ##vote: Zephirdd ##vote: bumatlarge ##vote: MrZentor ##vote: hyshes ##vote: wherebugsgo ##vote: xsksc Kill em all, let god sort em out? | ||
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On November 25 2011 01:52 Lemonwalrus wrote: Happy Thanksgiving! Probably won't post until tomorrow morning. Unfortunatly this for me as well. Some breif thoughts about the game state as it curently is though. I think our main focus for the rest of the day needs to be on if we want mr zentor dead or not. ever since he took over for chaoser I know I have been having a hard time deciding where to go. But recently I have noticed that a number of questions have been asked of him (chaoser's town claim, his thoughts) And he has either ignored them, or givin very vauge answers. His votes have also been very brief, and have the air of someone that wants to lay low. In addition to the case on chaoser, this is enough for me to vote for him ##Vote: MrZentor again, ill try to keep up with the thread the best that i can today. | ||
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On November 25 2011 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote: Alright, I'm going to go ahead and say I think Forumite is scum now. He was completely fine with bandwagoning townies on day 1 and day 2. What he posts has never made sense at all this game. Now, he's shying away from the popular lynch targets and he's attacking Palmar for again, really stupid reasons. Actually, I can't find his reasons other than "I dislike insulting morons." He finds that Coag, Zentor, and Zephirdd are popular lynch targets, so he's afraid of pushing them. If you find this logic tenable, Forumite, why the fuck didn't you use it on day 1 and day 2? No one lynched for mistakes and behavior. The day 1 and day 2 lynches were based on the fact that you're all incredibly retarded. That's all there was to it. Now you try and say that behavioral analysis doesn't work? The sad fact is that if he actually thinks what he has been doing is behavioral analysis, he might actually be a townie who straight up believes this is true. I wouldn't put it past Forumite to be that dumb, since he's proved it in the past. ##vote Forumite I don't get the feeling that forumite is scum WBG, he seems to have been pretty honest in his analysis of the previous targets he has gone after. I think we should stick with just lynching mrZentor and see what goes from there | ||
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My god, what if palmar is still alive becasue he's scum! but what if mafia wanted us to think that?! but what if they knew we would think that they thought that..... see? | ||
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On November 25 2011 09:10 wherebugsgo wrote: damn it greymist burying my post with your top of the page headlining abilities Its the greymist curse, my posts almost always appear at the tops of pages | ||
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On November 25 2011 09:26 Forumite wrote: I don´t know  Okay, I guess we´re fed up about WIFOM. What do we do now? I think we should all decide wether or not we want to lynch MrZentor. IMO its the best way to move forward in our current state. chaoser getting replaced left us in a serious situation, and we have been putting this off for a while. his flip should hopefully give us enough info to go on with the next day. | ||
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On November 25 2011 09:29 Nisani201 wrote: Can we speed up the nightpost if we get a unanimous agreement to do so? why would we want to do this? only scum don't want more discussion. | ||
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On November 26 2011 05:08 Zephirdd wrote: Better list, now with RoL alignment confirmed by Palmar. | ||
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On November 26 2011 11:07 xsksc wrote: Wait a sec, didn't Cyber_cheese claim town tracker? why so he did. He called it something different though, "town obsessive stalker" | ||
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On November 26 2011 11:35 wherebugsgo wrote: Right, but you think it's just a matter of convenience that you have been on every bandwagon this game, you have had no real assertiveness nor original opinions, and you were one of the 6 people who did not vote a person who just flipped scum like two minutes ago? Yeah, I'm not gonna chalk that up to coincidence. At least half of the 6 who didn't vote Coag are scum. If Cyber is not scum then it's possible Lanaia could be. If i recall correctly forumite was also on numerous bandwagons and took his vote off coag (granted to prevent a hammer, but still), and yet also flipped vanilla town. So it isnt apparently out of the question. The three bandwagons im going to assume you are talking about are the sinani, kenpachi, and prphlz bandwagons. I dont really count the sinani bandwagon. the kenpachi one seemed like the correct play at the time, as he was already acting a bit scummy+it was the only way for us to make sense of the lanaia fiasco. plus that one could have been avoided if he had claimed before he died. prphlz also could have saved himself by doing that, but also chose not to. That bandwagon i will admit being off, however even you could see how his behaviour that I pointed out (posting in all caps, elicting emotional responses, ect..) were all valid reasons. | ||
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On November 26 2011 11:47 wherebugsgo wrote: actually I'm talking about today's bandwagons too. If you're scum you know all of these players are town. We lynched Forumite because he was on all of them. We'll lynch you for the same reason. And no, they were not valid reasons and I repeated myself plenty of times trying to get people to understand that. Half the people in this game don't know how to scumhunt, the rest are just twiddling their thumbs. That policy lynch worked out really well for forumite. In any case, aside from me being on your list of scum( DCLXVI, Sabin010, Cyber_Cheese, Lanaia), it looks pretty good. I'm only hesitant about DCLXVI because he has softclaimed medic, and i would at least like to see him come up with a full roleclaim before we go further with him. I'm confused about your reasoning about lanaia as well. I thought with kenpanchi flipping green it pretty much made us all think she was a misguided townie, rather than a red. | ||
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On November 27 2011 08:08 Zephirdd wrote: + Show Spoiler [Claimed Roles] + Players Alive: Cyber_Cheese - Town Obsessive Stalker(Tracker) DCLXVI - Miller Doctor GreYMisT - Vanilla RebirthOfLeGenD - Town Alignment Lanaia - Town Elder(Double Voter/Double Anti-Voter) Lemonwalrus - Town Rolecop(gets roles, not alignment) Palmar - Town Records Cop(can only check people he voted on) Sabin010 - unclaimed Tyrran - Vanilla Zephirdd - Town Restraining Doctor(protect+roleblock) bumatlarge - unclaimed hyshes - Town Mason wherebugsgo - Vanilla xsksc - Town Doctor(Protects as many targets as the day had lynches) The Dead: Kenpachi, the Town Newbie Watchful Doc, lynched Day 1 sinani206, the Town Roleblocker, lynched Day 1 LSB, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 1 prplhz, the Town Corpse Jack, lynched Day 2 HarbingerOfDoom, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2 risk.nuke, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2 Drazerk, the Town Frail Mason, killed Night 2 Nisani201, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3 Forumite, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3 MrZentor, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3 Kibibit, the Town Tracker, modkilled Day 3 Coagulation, the Mafia Magician, modkilled Day 3 Updating list. Honestly I don't believe on DCL's claim. Why would being a Miller Doctor be a drawback at all? Sure a alignment check would give scum, but that doesn't stop him from being a doc(which is what I understood from his posts earlier: he was a doc but he had limitations for protection). This is basically inviting vigilante shots on his ass, and then if he survives he would say he protected himself. AKA a method to waste vigi shots. (speaking of which, nobody claimed vigilante yet. Sabin, bumatlarge and RoL are the only ones who didn't roleclaim, and RoL is confirmed town) No one (aside from pretty much hyshes) is confirmed town this game. | ||
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DCLXVI, Millers always do not know they are miller, and palmar is right, you should have breadcrumbed/claimed it at the start, and not here. | ||
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Sabin010. When you have to search for 5 minutes to find a post from this guy to filiter, you know something is wrong. First off the only vote he seems to have made this game is for prp. thats it. And he barely pushes that one at all, echoing the reasons that me and forumite both provided. Next most of his posts are question posts. this serves to have him participate in discussion, but at the same time contribute 0. Finally, his most recent posts have him saying he will do an analysis of everyone, but he was going to wait until morning. We still havnt seen this btw. Then, after that, he says his fatal quote. "Does anybody want to do an analysis on wherebugsgo?" with WBG flipping town it is obvious to me that sabin asked this because he knew he couldnt do analysis on a town player properly, and he was feeling out the town to see if he could concievibly get him lynched. This is the most obvious scum tell of his. ##Vote: Sabin010 | ||
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On November 29 2011 06:53 Lanaia wrote: Guys, I have something to ask of you all. If you drive, please be careful. I know it's unrelated to the game, but losing you would be sad. It took me an hour longer than expected to get back to college because i got stuck in traffic 3 times due to people being bad drivers. But i'm safe | ||
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On November 30 2011 02:38 Lanaia wrote: Perfect. I confirm the blocked aspect of Zeph's action. This is why I believe he's town. Perfect, this confirms my suspicions, i will be posting an analysis of lemon walrus when I get done with lab. | ||
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On November 30 2011 06:54 Palmar wrote: That's actually the correct answer. You did flip your read on me, that's correct. You weren't vocal enough with it though, but it's not enough to incriminate you. Depending on how the night ends, I would suggest only killing Bumatlarge tomorrow. This i can agree on. | ||
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On November 30 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote: Here's an assignment. Write me an essay on why you're not scum, and please, go back and quote your own posts and explain the reasoning behind them. I think you are the most likely to flip scum out of the remaining people, so if I were you I'd do something about it. Since the dawn of recorded history, man has been mortal. Thus in his mortality man has sought not to die, but to live. this sentiment is reflected thus in the game of mafia. in the following paragraphs i shall explain unto you, my reader, why it is a good idea for me not to die, but to live onto another day.... Yea im not going to do it like that. Although i believe you to be town above almost everyone else in this game, aside from perhaps lanaia, I find it a contradiction that you said in a previous post that you find bum the most likely to flip scum, but then say I'm the most likely to flip scum. for the purpose of this argument im going to assume you mean im most likely to flip scum after you have lynched bumatlarge. I Can't tell you why im not scum, because thats honestly not a question i have found myself needing to ask for most of this game. you said yourself however earlier in the game, that while misguided, i voted for the lynches i voted for in an honest way, and had reasoning behind all of them. Thats the best reasoning i have for being town at the moment. WBG is the only one to have brought a case against me as scum this game, and ti boiled down to the fact that i didn't vote for coag. He ignored the fact that he was most likely going to get modkilled, and i was waiting on conformation. as someone said earlier, we would rather have someone modkilled than lynched. that is why i wasnt going to jump on the coag lynch. In any case. I know im town, and im pretty dang certain you are town as well. my reads are bumatlarge and lemonwalrus. thats pretty much all i can say. | ||
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Our QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iKeVBLqe5SNf | ||
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Thanks for claiming everyone, made it a lot easier. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:14 bumatlarge wrote: GG well played. Wow greymist's role was brutal. GG roleclaims. I am the reason there are dangers in town for those who roleclaim and lynch too much :D also something else that didnt come into play this game but you guys might have missed: all of us were told that the lynch platform would fail if 6 or more people were lynched in one day. pretty interesting even if it never happened. | ||
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We never even got to use any of coag's abilities. | ||
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Would have been hard, but awesome. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote: and also I was super mad you didn't get lynched, greymist. You were like one of the only players who was on every lynch except for Coag's. It was mind boggling to watch cyber get lynched but not you. I was like wtf??!?!?! haha yea, im slippery | ||
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Kinda the exact opposite of kenpachi's role so many medics though i thought it safter to claim vanilla. | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: lol dont laugh at me, its a cool idea! | ||
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On November 30 2011 12:59 wherebugsgo wrote: there's no point in ever role claiming as scum unless it makes sense and serves a purpose. I suppose if you suspect there's a rolecop you could probably roleclaim too but even so, if you get caught by the rolecop you just push for his lynch. and i was saving that claim unless i needed to survive just one more day and use my ability once more. | ||
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On November 30 2011 13:12 wherebugsgo wrote: as long as townies like Forumite and nisani were alive I probably would've never noticed the actual scum. It was so imperative that we killed those townies that I don't think I would've ever gotten a single scumread till the thread was clear of them. That's probably why I never paid attention to your posts. Forumite and Nisani (and chaoser to some extent) were to me so distracting that anything you, Cyber, and Zephirdd did, while still pretty bad, was completely overshadowed by them. If you note in my posts, I keep getting confused because there's like 9 people who kept doing dumb things over and over. You guys were always in those lists but there was always someone on town who was dumber. It was just....so bad lol And it was our goal that the thread stayed that way, haha. | ||
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On November 30 2011 13:17 kitaman27 wrote: Was there any mechanic preventing a mass lynch of all but one player? the lynch fails if 6 or more are lynched at once. | ||
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On November 30 2011 21:04 Palmar wrote: Please play more, you did well for a first time mafia player, but it's always easy to get off your first scum game, because people will ignore you. and yes, Greymist's role was bullshit, Mass-claiming should be a viable town strategy. It's retarded to have mechanics directly punishing it. It should be punished by mafia having good fake-claims. (which is also why I hate role cops and detectives, but like alignment cops, mafia can easily fake those). The Op did warn you.... | ||
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On November 30 2011 18:17 Forumite wrote: gg wp Scum, what was the reason you did the nightkills that you did? Why kill X and not Y? Were I anywhere near on the night 2 kills, that you wanted Nisani to die day 3 and avoided killing those against the lynch? I can comment more but im about to go to class. I think i wanted to kill you the night we killed bugs, but we decided on him instead. Who protected lanaia night 1, haha. | ||
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On December 01 2011 06:50 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: I still can't comprehend how you didn't get lynched on one of the final 2 days. Im like a ninja | ||
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i dont even remember | ||
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