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On November 22 2011 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Alright since it's you asking Cyber_Cheese <3
I watched Tyrran last night and Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI visited him.
This suggests that one of Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI are likely a scum roleblocker/rolecop, or similar. I don´t see any reason for scum to visit the same person twice. For what it´s worth, they are most likely not both scum.
prplhz, didn´t it take a nightaction to get Kenpachi´s powers, or can you both steal powers and use them during the same night?
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number of people voting already-hammered candidates = 3 and counting.
wtf come on you derps
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On November 22 2011 07:59 prplhz wrote:
If anything is unclear, I suggest you PM Zona yourself.
I´m not a medic, so I don´t know how they work in this game. Since you were one, briefly, and this information would likely be included in your role-PM from Kenpachi, I thought I´d ask you directly.
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Hey guys im sorry i havent been active recently, I have been non-stop writing since friday. I will be checking in periodically and will try not to miss the lynch. Here are my thoughts on the past few pages:
On the case of Chaoser: It sucks that he got a replacement, as the case on him was building. I am a bit unsure how to handle this, but would like to hear his replacement's ideas on the current situation before everyone continues to vote for him (though voting for a hammered person does not bode well).
Prp, it doesnt help us that you role claimed after you died -.-
I'm admittadly at a bit of a loss right now. Nisani does indeed look bad as the rest of you have been saying, but vi will restate what i said earlier about my fear that he is just another sinani/prplhz. WBG or anyone else, do you have anything that differentiates nisani from these other 2 people that makes him seem more scum/malicious?
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FYI, after a replacement has been performed, all votes by and for the replaced player transfer over, and from that point over voting must by done for or by the new player.
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1. Whoever replaced chaoser should probably die. Chaoser was scummy enough that I don't care who replaces him. He should die.
##Vote: MrZentor
Just in case.
You mafia guys already got prplhz lynched
Great, I come into the game as the most suspicious person here!
As surprising as it is, Chaos is not mafia; I am not mafia.
There really isn't much I can do to defend myself besides revealing my role, so until I am pressed further by more votes, I will leave it at that.
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He's legit.
On November 22 2011 08:02 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Alright since it's you asking Cyber_Cheese <3
I watched Tyrran last night and Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI visited him. This suggests that one of Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI are likely a scum roleblocker/rolecop, or similar. I don´t see any reason for scum to visit the same person twice. For what it´s worth, they are most likely not both scum. prplhz, didn´t it take a nightaction to get Kenpachi´s powers, or can you both steal powers and use them during the same night?
Explain the bolded section. Why does one of us have to be mafia?
Not only that, but you were willing to openly accept that information from somebody you believe to be scum, just because he's about to die?
##Vote: Forumite
@Prplhz
I know that you are town now, so I'll let you make the decision. We are three blues down already, and three possibly four blues are targets for the mafia tonight. (the masons, me, DCLXVI)
On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote:
Furthermore, there may be dangers in store for town players who claim their role.
With all this in mind, should I rolecall?
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On November 22 2011 08:15 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +1. Whoever replaced chaoser should probably die. Chaoser was scummy enough that I don't care who replaces him. He should die. Great, I come into the game as the most suspicious person here! As surprising as it is, Chaos is not mafia; I am not mafia. There really isn't much I can do to defend myself besides revealing my role, so until I am pressed further by more votes, I will leave it at that.
its unfortunate that you came in under such circumstances. Have you finished reading the thread yet? If so who do you think is mafia at the moment?
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EBWOP
On November 22 2011 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
... Not only that, but you were willing to openly accept that information from somebody you believe to be scum, before he is confirmed town, just because he's about to die?
##Vote ...
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##Unvote: Palmar
I have no idea why Chaoser thought he was scummy.
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I have NOT taken any hits last night ( to be more precise, i did not receive any PM). This means I have probably been rolechecked. I'm not sure that roleblock count as a visit (locking the cabin see Sinani206 role description), so it is also possible that i've been framed. Any way, i'm going to claim town.
I dont think that it's very likely to have been visited 2 times by mafia. In the same night. How likely is it to be visited by 3 blue ( including prp), not much i guess. So we are going to have to decide which one makes the best Vigi target during the nigth. Unfortunately that also means that the other one will make a good Mafia target. We still have an additional Medic ( the one that protected Palmar) so maybe we can work something out. Mafia has NOT won yet!
If we have a pardonner, time to save a blue, i dont think he could have made that up on purpose.
@prplhz: Thank you for watching over me last nigth  . I'm sorry I couldnt save you today.
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On November 22 2011 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 08:02 Forumite wrote:On November 22 2011 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Alright since it's you asking Cyber_Cheese <3
I watched Tyrran last night and Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI visited him. This suggests that one of Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI are likely a scum roleblocker/rolecop, or similar. I don´t see any reason for scum to visit the same person twice. For what it´s worth, they are most likely not both scum. prplhz, didn´t it take a nightaction to get Kenpachi´s powers, or can you both steal powers and use them during the same night? Explain the bolded section. Why does one of us have to be mafia? Not only that, but you were willing to openly accept that information from somebody you believe to be scum, just because he's about to die? ##Vote: Forumite
It´s easier to talk to someone if I don´t accuse him of lying all the time. I don´t trust prplhz, but it´s not like accusing him of lying will give more information than the flip will, right?
Anyway the wording came out wrong. If what prplhz says is true, then one of you COULD be scum, but it´s very unlikely that both of you are.
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On November 22 2011 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
He's legit.
@Prplhz
I know that you are town now, so I'll let you make the decision. We are three blues down already, and three possibly four blues are targets for the mafia tonight. (the masons, me, DCLXVI)
Do not forget Lanaia. Also, do you have any info from your role that makes you think that DCLXVI is blue and not red ( a yes/no answer is enough)
Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote:
Furthermore, there may be dangers in store for town players who claim their role. With all this in mind, should I rolecall?
Dont rolecall just now. We are going to have a LOT of info on our hand for Nigth 2, and we need to make sure we get the most out of it without revealing the specificities of it to the mafia. If I were you, i'd wait until beginning of day 3 to roleclaim. Any other move will give mafia info for they kill during the nigth.
With 1 ( possibly 2) mafia kill during nigth 2, we will have to be EXTREMELY careful during the vote of day 3 ( coagulation, Sabin010, xsksc and even Lanaia : I'm looking directly at you rigth now). I think the correct move would be to have a group of confirmed town to lead the votes. That would be a good way to make sure that mafia doesnt decide the lynch.
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On November 22 2011 08:35 Tyrran wrote:
Also, do you have any info from your role that makes you think that DCLXVI is blue and not red ( a yes/no answer is enough)
ACTUALLY DONT DO THAT. NOT YET. WAIT.
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On November 22 2011 08:35 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
He's legit.
@Prplhz
I know that you are town now, so I'll let you make the decision. We are three blues down already, and three possibly four blues are targets for the mafia tonight. (the masons, me, DCLXVI)
Do not forget Lanaia. Also, do you have any info from your role that makes you think that DCLXVI is blue and not red ( a yes/no answer is enough) Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote:
Furthermore, there may be dangers in store for town players who claim their role. With all this in mind, should I rolecall? Dont rolecall just now. We are going to have a LOT of info on our hand for Nigth 2, and we need to make sure we get the most out of it without revealing the specificities of it to the mafia. If I were you, i'd wait until beginning of day 3 to roleclaim. Any other move will give mafia info for they kill during the nigth. With 1 ( possibly 2) mafia kill during nigth 2, we will have to be EXTREMELY careful during the vote of day 3 ( coagulation, Sabin010, xsksc and even Lanaia : I'm looking directly at you rigth now). I think the correct move would be to have a group of confirmed town to lead the votes. That would be a good way to make sure that mafia doesnt decide the lynch.
and how do you recommend we get this "confirmed town"? Only Drazerk and Hyshes come close to that right now, and they are only "very likely" to be town. No one is confirmed until the flip.
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On November 22 2011 08:37 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 08:35 Tyrran wrote:On November 22 2011 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
He's legit.
@Prplhz
I know that you are town now, so I'll let you make the decision. We are three blues down already, and three possibly four blues are targets for the mafia tonight. (the masons, me, DCLXVI)
Do not forget Lanaia. Also, do you have any info from your role that makes you think that DCLXVI is blue and not red ( a yes/no answer is enough) On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote:
Furthermore, there may be dangers in store for town players who claim their role. With all this in mind, should I rolecall? Dont rolecall just now. We are going to have a LOT of info on our hand for Nigth 2, and we need to make sure we get the most out of it without revealing the specificities of it to the mafia. If I were you, i'd wait until beginning of day 3 to roleclaim. Any other move will give mafia info for they kill during the nigth. With 1 ( possibly 2) mafia kill during nigth 2, we will have to be EXTREMELY careful during the vote of day 3 ( coagulation, Sabin010, xsksc and even Lanaia : I'm looking directly at you rigth now). I think the correct move would be to have a group of confirmed town to lead the votes. That would be a good way to make sure that mafia doesnt decide the lynch. and how do you recommend we get this "confirmed town"? Only Drazerk and Hyshes come close to that right now, and they are only "very likely" to be town. No one is confirmed until the flip.
Speaking of them, i would love to hear the input of our lovely masons right about now.
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On November 22 2011 08:05 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 07:59 prplhz wrote:
If anything is unclear, I suggest you PM Zona yourself. I´m not a medic, so I don´t know how they work in this game. Since you were one, briefly, and this information would likely be included in your role-PM from Kenpachi, I thought I´d ask you directly.
Kenpachi's role PM is in the OP (or one of the first posts). You can PM Zona about it just as well as I can.
And yes I can steal and use power the same night, obviously.
On November 22 2011 08:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:He's legit. Show nested quote +On November 22 2011 08:02 Forumite wrote:On November 22 2011 07:56 prplhz wrote:
Alright since it's you asking Cyber_Cheese <3
I watched Tyrran last night and Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI visited him. This suggests that one of Cyber_Cheese and DCLXVI are likely a scum roleblocker/rolecop, or similar. I don´t see any reason for scum to visit the same person twice. For what it´s worth, they are most likely not both scum. prplhz, didn´t it take a nightaction to get Kenpachi´s powers, or can you both steal powers and use them during the same night? Explain the bolded section. Why does one of us have to be mafia? Not only that, but you were willing to openly accept that information from somebody you believe to be scum, just because he's about to die? ##Vote: Forumite@Prplhz I know that you are town now, so I'll let you make the decision. We are three blues down already, and three possibly four blues are targets for the mafia tonight. (the masons, me, DCLXVI) Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote:
Furthermore, there may be dangers in store for town players who claim their role. With all this in mind, should I rolecall?
With this semi-complicated setup I'm sure Zona put that in to avoid a situation where role claiming could break the game. Also maybe to avoid people talking about their PMs to breadcrumbs roles or something like that. I don't think that there's any dangers of modkill to a guy just casually claiming, it is up to you though.
Also, since there are apparently a ton of blues in this game, I thought that claiming watcher wouldn't have helped me since mafia watcher actually makes sense, and Tyrran didn't claim hit so I couldn't claim that I'd protected him. I didn't want to potentially out two blues, but I think that DCLXVI is scummy and you straight up told me to claim so I did.
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I post this regarding DCLXVI:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 21 2011 14:45 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:I'm going to go ahead vote DCLXVI. His first couple posts struck me as empty sounding/scummy. Since then some of his posting has included: Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 07:03 DCLXVI wrote:On November 18 2011 06:55 Kenpachi wrote:
what my flip does: It softconfirms Lanaia. that is all well I think that I will know a lot about chaoser when you flip Which he never explained nor has he said what his opinion is on Chaoser since then. He mentions he wants to wait until he can vote to start discussing...and still has yet to vote. Show nested quote +On November 19 2011 04:19 DCLXVI wrote:
I would rather wait until morning to start discussing again so I can start throwing down votes, I trust the remaining blues to use their roles wisely. Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 04:04 DCLXVI wrote:I won't cast any votes now, later in the day I will. And overall he has had a number of long posts, but many of them don't actually take a position. In fact, he doesn't seem to have had a solid stance on declaring someone scummy or not since day 1 ended. Show nested quote +That last part is scummy, however the rest of it is not enough to warrant a lynch just yet. Show nested quote +Either I can believe that he did not have time for long posts or he wanted sinani dead, I have not made up my mind. Show nested quote +Still, I am through with voting bad townies, so I do not think sabino or kibibit should go today. They are too hard to read given their lack of posts and I think we can find better targets today. And no, he did not list who any of those better targets might be. While thoughtful consideration is good, doing nothing but giving non-committal statements is rather scummy. ##Vote: DCLXVI
He later comes into the thread and posts this:
On November 22 2011 02:18 DCLXVI wrote:
I do not think you are mafia prplhz. Though I do think Palmar wants to see you flip town so he looks better.
##Vote Palmar
##Vote Nisani201
I would like to see both die tonight, but i highly doubt palmar will get lynched. I don't believe his claim of being protected, nor do I like the way he argues. His argument on chaoser was forced imo, and he tries too hard to lead the town.
I would write about nisani, but it would just be parroting wbg. Go read wbg's case on him, I agree with most of what he says in regards to nisani except the defending chaoser bit. Completely ignoring anything I said about him, although he does finally take some form of a stand. Now we have him visiting Tyrran as well? I don't want to try to pull off a rushed lynch on him, but he has a lot to answer for when day 3 starts. (No sense for him to roleclaim during the night, obviously)
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On November 22 2011 08:35 Tyrran wrote:
With 1 ( possibly 2) mafia kill during nigth 2, we will have to be EXTREMELY careful during the vote of day 3 ( coagulation, Sabin010, xsksc and even Lanaia : I'm looking directly at you rigth now). I think the correct move would be to have a group of confirmed town to lead the votes. That would be a good way to make sure that mafia doesnt decide the lynch.
Confirmed town doesn't mean correct opinion. Yes you know the confirmed townies are town, but don't fall to the temptation to start playing a game of follow the blues. Confirmed townies don't always get it right, especially if people kick their action down a notch.
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Guys we are running out of time to make intelligent decisions. what are everyone's thoughts, disregarding prplhz (too much WIFOM potential)
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