Steamship Liquidia (TL Mafia 46) - Page 4

On November 17 2011 07:21 chaoser wrote:
I'm going to enjoy this day one lynch...I haven't been day one lynched in forever <3

On November 17 2011 19:34 Forumite wrote:
Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be?

On November 18 2011 00:42 chaoser wrote:
So you're saying that I, as mafia, decided the best way to play this game was to scream as loudly as possible to generate discussion in the beginning of the game to gain attention from everyone so that I could cause some sort of panic (which didn't happen, who here in thread actually thinks the thread is in a panic or mess?

On November 18 2011 02:01 Drazerk wrote:


Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try

On November 18 2011 02:39 Drazerk wrote:


Your missing something but it's ok

On November 18 2011 02:39 Drazerk wrote:


Your missing something but it's ok

On November 18 2011 04:29 GreYMisT wrote:


At the moment I am pretty unsure about Chaoser. Although he did throw his votes around a bit earlier on, he isn't reacting to this pressure like I would imagine a scum chaoser would. So my read on him is null at best.

I think Sinani is a very good lynch option today. you need not go further than his filter. He is being dissmissive, diffucult, not truly answering questions, and providing shit reasoning for voting people. However, if we are uncomfortable with a sinani lynch today, One thing Chaoser did do was bring my attention to Hiroruby. In addition to the case chaoser made against him (which he hasn't responded to) I would like to point out that at the beginning of the game he made 2 very long posts detailing policy, answering questions, ect. but when it came time to actually give opinions and contribute his posting fell quite short. I think he is at least a better lynch than prplhz, so with that:

##Unvote: prplhz
##Vote: Hiroruby

On November 18 2011 04:41 GreYMisT wrote:


What I'm saying is that making those early posts is very easy to do as mafia, and can get you some effortless town cred. then he dissapeared once we started discussing stuff. This is why he is different from the other lurkers.

On November 18 2011 12:00 Forumite wrote:
WBG, I´d take a look at players who were on only one of the lynches, players who posted that both were scummy, but only voted on one of them, players who had allready gotten one Townie killed and didn´t want to attract too much attention by voting on two. Players who hang back and blame others for the mislynches. Those who voted for both victims look bad, but I think they look like bad Townies. That´s my opinion at least, that Scum are the ones avoiding the second lynch. If they dared to lynch sinani, then it wouldn´t have taken so long to get those final votes.

On November 18 2011 11:15 Nisani201 wrote:
DCLXVI
Drazerk
Zephirdd
GreYMisT
risk.nuke
Tyrran
Lemonwalrus
Cyber_Cheese

These people voted for both Kenpachi and sinani206.

There is 1-2 scum on this list. Drazerk is one of them

On November 17 2011 19:53 Tyrran wrote:
Okay guys, I think we should try to get as much information as possible off the Kenpachi/Lanaia case. Here is my own analysis. This analysis assumes that Kenpachi will flip green/blue. If he flips red, its a whole other story.

Is Lanaia scum ?

While there still is a small possibilities that Lanaia used her ability to focus the votes on Kenpachi, I believe she is town and only made a mistake using her anti-vote carelessly. The main reason is that her ability does not seems to fit a scum as it appears to everyone. This was confirmed to be working as intended by Zona. Also she stated beforehand that the would rather lynch sinani over Kenpachi, so her anti-vote on Ken is understandable ( does not mean it was a good move). This leads me to believe her saying that she made a huge mistake. I'd say she is town 75%. Lets not lynch her. Yet.

@Lanaia : So you did not want to claim d1, yet you used your anti-vote fully aware that he would show up?? This contradiction is the reason i still think you migth be scum.

What was the stance of mafia during this ?

Okay, so lets try to think as if we were mafia. A blue 'accidentaly' reveal herself, and does this in a extremely strange way. Kenpachi had not posted much, so I dont think mafia had a read on him being potentially blue yet ( his over reaction to his lynching migth have been a good tell for them). Perfect opportunity to press the town into a misslynch !

Sho who should mafia focus on ? Kenpachi ( no read on him), or Lanaia ( confirmed blue). This is a no brainer for them, pressuring the town into voting Lanaia is obviously the best move here for them. Lets see who voted early for her :

* Drazerk :



First one to go for Lania, just after the post revealing her as a blue. Only has a very bad reason for this. Had already voted for Kenpachi before. Voted too hastely or scum ?


* Hyshes :



With this in mind, the fact that he jumped extremely quickly on the Lanaia bandwagon with the only excuse "only scum would defend a lurker" is extremelly scummy. Not only that, but while this statement suggest that Kenpachi is also scum, he did not vote for him, focusing only on Lanaia. This is very suspect.

Note that he later 'said' that it would be weird if Lanaia did this as scum, but did not remove his vote!

*Palmar :





Okay so Palmar had already quite some influence over town with his Chaoser analysis, immediatly jumped on the Lanaia bandwagon, and later when people where only voting for Kenpachi, he insisted on the fact that Lanaia should by going down multiple time. As explained above, this is very mafia-like, he is trying to make us lynch a blue !

*LemonWalrus/GreYMisT : You guys went for her early, but backed down after explanation that lynching both of them was not a good idea, and that Kenpachi was probably the best lynch. I'm fine with that.

*Zephirrd : He was the one that discovered te anti-vote, yet he waited to vote for Lanaia, and gave good reasons for his vote. I'd keep an eye on him, but no clear scum read here.

*Hiroruby :Jumbed on the bandwagon without good reasons. Also, very scummy post early in the game. Not very active overall ( made a couple big post early, and fell into unactivity after that.

*Sinani206 : Also jumped on the bandwagon without any good reason ( only said 1 word : "Scumbuddies" ).


Now the same analysis gives us a good read on risk.nuke too : He was the first and only one to push the town into NOT VOTING for Lanaia. Why would a mafia push the town into not voting for a blue ? Does not make sens to me.I Believe he is town.

Conclusion

Likely scum : Drazerk, Hyshes, Palmar, Hiroruby, Sinani206
Likely Town : Lanaia, LemonWalrus, GreyMisT, Zephirrd
Confirmed Town: risk.Nuke.

This is based on this analysis alone, I ignored on purpose most of the post that did not relate to the Kenpachi/lanaia Case. The goal was to find potential scum, we still need to confirm them ! I think we should not lynch anyone for now. If Kenpachi does not flip red, Focus on the likely scum above. If not, we lynched a red :D, and back to the drawing board, to re use risk.nuke wording.


What do you guys think ? I would love some feedback on this.

On November 19 2011 02:11 Lanaia wrote:


IRC mafia is not the same as forum mafia. I am a hell of a lot better at IRC mafia than at forum mafia.

Also, I'm really sorry if I don't post much within the next... 12 hours (unless the highway is shut down, I'll be working tonight).

I hate this feeling I have. I want everyone who is currently active to be town (though that is highly unlikely).
Right now, I feel that only one of chaoser and Palmar can be scum (leaning Palmar); however they could technically be both town, but I get the feeling scum would not try to bus day one, am I correct in thinking this?

On November 19 2011 05:07 wherebugsgo wrote:


Both chaoser and Palmar are well known for bussing their teammates.

Palmar is also self-proclaimed to be terrible as scum. Chaoser is not bad at scum IMO but for me it's easy to tell when he is. His hyperaggressiveness in defending himself by continually berating Palmar is a scum defense of his he usually employs. He did it to me and Mig in PYP when I was on his back for being scummy.

Finally, use your brain. If Palmar wanted to paint targets for scum he'd do it in their QT. He wouldn't out to the entire thread who he think would make good doc prots. Most of his reads are fine, too.

On November 19 2011 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:


omg...

this is almost not worth responding to.

At this point in the game, you are making an assumption that Palmar is mafia and then trying to fit his behavior to that assumption. Your logic is terrible. You should try doing the other way around.

Sure, he COULD be trying to direct doctors so that scum can all land their hits. But then why would he direct doctors to the most active and productive townies? Do you disagree with his calls?

If you disagree with his calls then perhaps there is an agenda. You want the most productive townies to survive. If they are not protected, then scum will shoot them at will. It's optimal for scum to shoot the best townies.

Otherwise, they'll be shooting into the pool of players who will have little influence on the lynch tomorrow, which is actually not optimal for them. Unless they have a strong reason to suspect someone is blue, there is no reason to not shoot the townies with the best reads and thread presence.

On November 19 2011 07:04 wherebugsgo wrote:


So you ignore the rest of my post?

This is why I ignore players like you, cause you don't use your brain and you make my effort worthless.

On November 19 2011 08:12 Coagulation wrote:
Everytime I come into this thread to catch up and play some mafia Im super pumped and ready to analyse.
Then I get halfway through this giant clusterfuck of a pissing contest and pretty much give up trying to follow this shit.

Did I really just read fucking 20 pages of
"but you said"
"no you said"
"no you said"
"no you said"
"no you"
"no you"
"newb"
"no you"