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On September 30 2011 10:26 heist wrote: /in How are you going to be able to scum hunt when almost everyone will have a role? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235829 That is not to say you have to pick according to any tier list, just encouraged, and we should mix in defensive roles among the top tier. Further, I encourage everyone to read the role list rather carefully, as even standard roles may function in surprising ways. For instance framer You have the power to change how one's alignment and role appears to any detective type actions performed on them that night. You may use it on one person per night and may not use it on yourself. In addition, you may also choose to have your framed target visit anyone you choose. Any actions they perform will also be misdirected. Your target will also show up to watcher and tracker reports. Meanwhile watcher is completely useless You are the god damn Batman! At night you can choose to watch a player and receive information in the form of how many people visited that person. You must write a short and colorful story whenever you publish your results. I will be on skype and later today on irc | ||
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You have the power to change how one's alignment and role appears to any detective type actions performed on them that night. You may use it on one person per night and may not use it on yourself. In addition, you may also choose to have your framed target visit anyone you choose. Any actions they perform will also be misdirected. Your target will also show up to watcher and tracker reports. At first glance it allows the framer to completely control actions of any single player every night. It will not only frame the target, but also makes any active abilities useless and potentially dangerous. For instance if there is a NRA and the NRA claims day 1, the framer can just keep redirecting blues to the NRA. It further discourages role claiming and if the framer is lucky enough to find a role with a powerful active ability early on, it could definitely rank among the most dangerous scum roles in the game, especially due to its flexibility. It seems to me that if we go on the road of denying roles, framer is up there with Thief. Is the target of framer's redirection ability informed of the redirection? If inventor is redirected, does it mean the new target receives the invention? | ||
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Do mafia have to assign who performs the killl?] | ||
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There's even no guarantee that town will get the role cop roles. | ||
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GF: "You have the ability to cover a player, changing their role and alignment to anything you want." | ||
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His platform is: he is very likely town! I will likely be running for pardoner, depending on how the voting goes. | ||
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All that matters is denying the positions from scum. | ||
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On October 14 2011 14:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Vote dumb pardoner who will pardon twice and wreck the game for town versus vote in smart pardoner who won't pardon unless absolutely necessary. Vote in smart mayor who'll use the lynch in a good way versus voting in a dumb mayor who's going to randomly lynch a pro-town player within the top queue spots because he feels like it. Which seems like a better alternative in each case? Also, how are you going to determine who's scum or not without discussing anything? Discussion is good, but in the end platforms are pure fluff, especially in a game with 3 different scum teams. Walls of text detailing your plans and policies say quite little about your alignment, especially if the person in question is someone like Radfield. Furthermore, promises are meaningless if the person being elected isn't town.. Obviously we are never going to elect a "dumb" pardoner or mayor, given the fact how many solid players there are in the game. Anyway, Mig is likely town and everyone should be voting for him. Yes, take my word for it | ||
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I'm not running for mayor, though I certainly would push for my election as well if I could do it at this juncture but the votes aren't there. Thus I'm doing the next best thing; attempting to elect someone who I've the strongest town read of. I think he has a better chance at getting elected, which is mostly why I'm not running myself. Can you please elaborate on what you think our alignments are? Do you think me and mig are scum buddies and just being extremely daring? You did mention that you think one or both of us is scum and trying to "to ride the coattails of the strong pro-town player into Office". Who is the strong pro-town player then and which one is latching onto him? Mig didn't even want to run and I pushed him into it. You aren't very consistent and coherent with your accusations, which is quite scummy. | ||
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Absurdly bad | ||
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It's you who is dodging. Explain how a townie gets elected without other townies voting for him and thus at least to a degree trusting him. | ||
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On October 15 2011 06:17 wherebugsgo wrote: It's clear that syllogism is not a candidate. He has no votes. Feel free to vote for me, but it doesn't appear likely we've enough votes to elect us both. Obviously if mig can't be elected, I would rather have me as one of the two elected roles. | ||
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##vote Meapak_Ziphh | ||
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Besides, not like anyone followed a plan and if you get checked, you are generally dead anyway | ||
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Also, the town circle didn't use irc for anything and players mostly idled there or chatted about mostly inconsequential things. | ||
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On October 26 2011 17:17 wherebugsgo wrote: Syllo you called me unhelpful day 0 for calling you out on thinking sandro was town. I told you I believed sandro's logic for thinking Mig was town was really bad and you basically said I was being anti-town. Regardless of what your circle thought of Foolishness, had more scum taken advantage of that rift between town factions like sandro did, we would've been in a lot of trouble. Hopefully next time you don't rely on a cheap trick to try and confirm your good friends as being town, because that was honestly incredibly frustrating to deal with on day 0/1. You and sandro considered each other town for completely illogical and stupid reasons. No, I called you unhelpful because you were refusing to vote for Mig over Greymist even in the scenario that your least wanted candidate, radfield, was going to get elected anyway and in general were undermining our efforts to get a very likely townie and a DT elected. Greymist was a horrible candidate, which was one of the reasons we were suspicious of Foolishness, but you refused to budge, as is typical of you. I never considered sandroba "99%" town or anything close to that; me and mig were both incredibly suspicious of him early on. The suspicion only somewhat subsided because he became completely supportive of everything we did and didn't push for any scum objectives. This is because we pretty much cornered him by making it nearly impossible for him not to be convinced of our innocence. It's rather hilarious to see you suggest I'm frustrating to deal with, given your own quite earned reputation. As for illogical and stupid, well I'm not even going to touch that. Note that I never gave Sandroba any information whatsoever. | ||
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