Pick Your Power Interesting!

On October 13 2011 01:21 Jackal58 wrote:

Yours isn't a plan as much as it's common sense.


Sorry then. Sounds like the same type of scenario though. A list is put forth. Scum shit all over it.

On October 13 2011 03:35 JimboSilvers wrote:
Rad, Assassin is not as powerful as you seem to think it is. The only thing that is better about it then a normal day-vig is that it's anonymous, and can shoot during the night. The thing that is worse, is that if you are ever wrong about your guess, you become essentially vanilla, and you are outed to the rest of the thread. Because you have to specify the family of the mafia, that makes this extremely hard to use unless you have an extractor on your team. (And imo, just getting a vig would be better than using half your family's picks on 1KP.) It's an OK role, but nothing game breaking.

The downside to assigning the top spots is that everyone then knows where those roles are. Particularly mafia. There will always be two parties with KP that know they didn't get role X in the top 6, and that it's a powerful role. It's going to turn it into a killing ground that will end with everyone dead. By not assigning roles there you leave open the possibility that people will pick BP, or Vet, and suddenly it's a less attractive place to park your bullet.

Assassin shouldn't be on that list because as you your self said, it's able to work while remaining hidden. If you can't tell if the assassin is being used, or is responsible for a certain kill, how are you going to enforce accountability with that role?

Think of it this way: In a game with more than two parties, you HAVE to try to do good things for you, not bad things to them, because any action you take to benefit yourself will be three times as beneficial as any action you take to harm them, because you must harm THREE other parties.

This is an oversimplification, but to make myself clear, if you have four teams and each start with 0 points, when you give yourself 1 point, you are 1 point ahead of everyone. If you take a point away from another team, you are one point ahead of ONE person. You'd have to take away one point from each team to get the same net gain.

I believe that that principal will still apply to this situation despite the fact that it's more complicated.

I'm not dead set in this thinking, but currently it is what makes the most sense to me.

On October 13 2011 03:56 chaoser wrote:


Mafia might know where inventor is but so would medics?

@sandroba, I understand the hole let mafia fight over roles thing but the fact of the matter is, even if they fight over it, SOMEONE is going to get the inventor. SOMEONE is going to get the assassin. I'd rather know where they are and who has it than not know where it is and not know who has it. Town doesn't necessarily have to get those roles. As long as we know who has it and where it is, we have total control over the role. Ver (I think) talked about this in previous PYP games where he said CPR doc/CV is a horrible pick for mafia since you'll probably be controlled by town as long as they know where you are and who has it. So lets get some accountability up in this mother.

On October 14 2011 22:18 Scamp wrote:


Not by this logic, unless the votes are spread waaaaay thin. Mafia are in groups of four, no way they can swing an election that much.

On October 18 2011 11:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright enough of this fooling around; Radfield's right that the thread is a mess but you're all wrong.

so far the thread has been nothing but this:



I guess, then, it's time for....



SandBROda the really amazing fucking-terrible-scum has basically done nothing. Nothing. That's why he's amazing fucking terrible. Normally he's an amazing scumhunter, friend, and bro. This game? He's fucking terrible scum.

Day 1 Tricks:

Gain towncred by hiding behind a bunch of plans

Call Mig town because syllo thinks Mig is town but never actually talk to Mig

Do nothing productive

Don't scumhunt

Disappear

Night 1 Tricks:

Stay disappeared

Tell Mig he's drunk

Day 2 Tricks:

Do nothing

Say something on skype once

Call me town

Post in thread five seconds after someone else calls him out for his amazing fucking-terrible play

I sat down for an interview after sandroba's day 2 tricks. His response?



He's the fucking methman.

Lynch him.

##vote Sandroba

On October 15 2011 05:54 supersoft wrote:
okay, i vote for Mig as mayor. my reasoning is simple. I know mig from former PM games and he's active all the time. I don't trust anyone because we have like a 40% scumrate. If someone disagrees with that, I am in irc for further discussion.