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I sleep all night and scumhunt all day He's a townie and He's okay He sleeps all night and scumhunts all day I hunt the scum, I point them out, I get killed at night During night phases I go running hope they dont kill meee He hunts the scum, He points them out, he gets killed at night During night phases he goes running hoping they dont kill him, He's a townie and He's okay He sleeps all night and scumhunts all day | ||
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On September 28 2011 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote: [rap] Yo, Sevryn, you ain't no townie Bitch please, you ain't foolin me To you I ain't got no obligation To me you ain't got no reputation So Sevryn,, why you tryin'? Sevryn,, that shit ain't flyin'. Listen close, this is how it's done We ain't in this game to have fun. Look up, read close, them fools're actin like dopes. Pay attention, and I'll show you the ropes. Find that guy, he ain't put up no fight. Yeah man, he's the one. Vote on... Forumite. suck it bitchez THIS IS WHEREBUGSGO [/rap] yo yo yo you call me scum bro but cant you realize that i aint on yo team your scum logic wants me to go but in the end its your anus ill ream you call me scum but your votes the lie you think im scum but you want forumite to die why call me scum for the majority of your post when its forumite you want to roast | ||
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On September 28 2011 22:56 tnkted wrote: I disagree, I think we SHOULD know who is muted. There are going to be enough muted players anyway that if the mafia shoots into them, they'll have a small chance of hitting someone town, and if they do, its guarrenteed to be a person who isn't being an active townie behind the scenes, pming away, with a smaller chance of someone who is useful to town. Will mafia take that gamble? No, they're going to kill the town organizer, because an organized town is much more scary than a single vig. So I'm going to PM everybody and see who responds. I'll post the results tmrw when I get back to the internet If you don't want people to know if you're mute or not, don't respond, but I encourage you to do so. More info for town = better town play. the bolded part is wrong. mafia will always hit town/third party. claiming only makes it more likely that they hit the sniper. Now you said they will most likely hit the town organizer but isnt the town organizer one of the most likely medic protects first couple nights? | ||
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##vote NotChezinu | ||
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On September 29 2011 11:51 Kenpachi wrote: are you part of mafia? such weak arguments are scum tell in defense of Jackal. If Jackal mafia, you mafia. comprendo? It's dayone I would rather get rid of people who I won't be able to read if i cant get a read on anyone else. The case on jackal and WBG are both pretty weak but your not trying to tie them to the flip of another player. I can't tell if jackal or WBG are scum atm but the more they argue the more I have to make a decision so instead of going after a lurker who doesnt post ive decided to go after a lurker who lurks by making useless/troll posts comprehend? | ||
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On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote: There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire) Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it: Curu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066 Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR. Sevryn: The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment. However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well. I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking. risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is. None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed. In my opinion if there isnt a clear scum day one we should focus on scummy lurkers. NC is just that hes trolling the thread making chaos and not really contributing. Assuming worst case scenario we will be in a LyLo at somepoint and when that happens I would prefer it to be with people who I can read. | ||
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On September 29 2011 12:06 wherebugsgo wrote: NC is not scummy and he's not a lurker either Im saying hes effectively a lurker because the reason lurkers are bad is because you cant read them. I cant read him one way or the other because all of his posts are trolling/songs/poems | ||
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On September 30 2011 02:54 DropBear wrote: Sevryn is voting NotChezinu for trolling. This coming after he spent about half his posts rhyming and rapping. He claims Chezinu is a lurker. Deflecting lynches onto lurkers is pro-mafia play. No other contributions at all beside rapping and Chezinu needs to die cos he's a lurker. Voting Sevryn. Im voting chezinu because I dont want to get into a situation where We cant read someone we need to be able to get a read on because he hasnt opened his role PM to be honest thats kind of going against the rules to play to win how can someone play to win if they dont know their own win condition. It is most def not town. now you might ask why i dont lynch someone else and you yourself said the main lynches are not very good so why not use day one to help make it so if we get LyLo we have a fighting chance | ||
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On September 30 2011 03:26 wherebugsgo wrote: Actually tbh you're way more scummy than Chez is. You don't comment on any of the main lynch targets at all. I dont like the main lynches at all tbh its pairs of people waving dicks at eachother about meta | ||
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On September 30 2011 07:50 Curu wrote: If Incog flips Mafia we should probably start clearing out the garbage that we will never be able to read after that. Gee i wonder if someone else has said anything about getting rid of people you can't read. Also you seem to have decided who we are lynching before day2 even starts and thats a great way to have like no discussion for a whole day. | ||
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On September 30 2011 08:05 Curu wrote: See posts like that are why we have to get rid of certain players. It's mind boggling that there is the possibility you might even post something like that as Town. glad to see your reading the thread | ||
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On September 30 2011 08:11 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah but his logic for saying that is almost nonexistent. Just like how you're scum and are trying to get NC lynched. It almost seems as if you believe Sevryn. Believe me about what? I was saying and still am that it is impossible to read NotChezinu so he either needs to shape up or we need to get rid of him. Are you telling me you think NC is town? do you like his playstyle? you think its helpfull? | ||
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On September 29 2011 08:47 risk.nuke wrote: prphlz we shouldn't role over, but if we need to lynch someone day 1 we need to make an as educated guess as we can. Random lynching does not favor town since random lynchs mean percentage wise we're always more likely to hit town then scum. In addition scum will always have scum friends to manipulate the outcome so chances of hitting scum like that is even less then the original 1/4. How long left untill night starts? On September 29 2011 07:16 risk.nuke wrote: You all need to adapt Mr. Pinks point of view and realise, you are all scum! I've played alot of mafia and I don't think it's ever been good for townies to lynch the first day for no reason, Just scum and people who've played to much and gotten bored of anything but immidiate action does that. On September 30 2011 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: ##Vote Palmar Risk_nukes entire post history I saw him in IRC once but he was playing SC and couldnt talk so unless someone wants to say hes been super fucking busy in PM land.... | ||
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the scum sniper can only shoot during the day | ||
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On September 30 2011 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote: Actually if that gun goes off it says nothing about the alignment of the player who doesn't claim the shot The person who didn't shoot could be of either alignment. What? if the shot goes off fourmite is blue sniper who is the only sniper who can shoot at night. plus the sniper shot kills an hour later so we the kill goes before the day post | ||
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On October 02 2011 05:35 NotChezinu wrote: Hi forumite. I just had a realization. Scum snipers can only shoot during the day, just to rule out that possibility please do me a favor and aim at risk.nuke, right now (I'm not going to type out the command so I can't be accused of being the shooter if you follow up right now) if you are town, nothing will happen, if you by some odd twist of fate are a scum sniper, well then, risk.nuke will meet his untimely demise. I'd say "pick whoever you want" but I don't want you aiming for someone who is likely to be town. If you refuse, well then, we know what to do. Apologies for any trouble this may cause. Mr.Fluffles sends his regards and a bit of string. Kurumi, just to confirm, a day vigi role ONLY has to post ##Aim: _____ for it to go off, right? No need to PM you or anything Jackal should do this as well so we know he wasnt a scum sniper that didnt realize he cant shoot at night till after he typed in the thread | ||
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anywho thats a really interesting case on curu you have there. lets see what he has to say for himself ##vote curu | ||
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On October 02 2011 12:53 Mig wrote: Sevryn is there something wrong with you in the head? Did you not see what I posted? All i see is curu fishing for your role and then since palamar wasnt a blue pyro and obviously the "accidental" telling you the role was obviously planned is it to much of a hop skip and a jump to them trying to convince you that his claim was real? | ||
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On October 02 2011 13:33 Mig wrote: Sevryn are you serious....... I mean come on. This entire supposed master plan to bus palmar was to gain infinite town cred for curu and get people to trust him. After doing that why the fuck would he think I would lie to him? Use some common sense here. Of course I was telling him the truth. He had literally no motivation to ever roleblock me after I claimed vanilla to him. Even if he thought there was some small chance I was lying why risk wasting the roleblock when he could use it on any of the numerous other people who hadn't claimed vanilla. Your own arguments contradicts you. 3) Balance - This won't really be applicable right now but in kurumi's last game I know he didn't RNG all the teams/roles completely and he balanced it fairly normally. So looking at the player list the top players would be myself/Curu/Palmar/ingonito/ and probably the smurf. There is around a 0% chance those 5 players are all town and I would say it is very likely 2 of those 5 are mafia and not just mafia but most likely the mafia power roles (GF, RB, etc). This doesn't do us much good ATM but everyone should be watching all of those players closely, especially as people die and there are fewer of them left. Maybe he agreed with your thoughts on balance and decided since you were not scum you most likely would have a power role since your one of the more experianced players in this game. this is of course assuming hes scum and your not | ||
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Saying your own arguments contradicts you isnt really what i meant there but you understand what i mean | ||
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##unvote ##vote NotChezinu | ||
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On October 03 2011 01:32 Kenpachi wrote: YOU CHOBOS VOTE INCOGNITO I AM NOT A BIRD FROM FINAL FANTASY THANK YOU VERY MUCH | ||
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##vote risk.nuke | ||
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##unvote ##vote forumite | ||
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On October 06 2011 05:29 Forumite wrote: Yes, you are a moron. ##Aim Sevryn And now we wait | ||
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On October 08 2011 13:19 wherebugsgo wrote: Alright, so let me put this out there before I go to sleep: I doubted Mig's reads earlier in the game because I felt like he didn't consider the merits of Incog/NC being town more. He doubted mine because I pushed Forumite as scum, threw doubts on the lynch of Palmar and took part in the Curu case. Mig is a better player than I am. If you look at this list, it's clear he knew what he was talking about. After yesterday the only thing on this list that has been established as wrong is NC being town. I admit that I didn't take his efforts seriously enough until today, when jcarl flipped scum. I was wrong about jcarl and that's my own fault. We should consider the information he provided us (and also go through Erandorr's posts to see if he'd breadcrumbed anything). The bottom four on that list should be our focus. Those four are basically nisani, risk.nuke, DropBear, and sevryn. ATM I'm unsure on DropBear because he appeared townie to me yesterday (and keeps saying he's looking for a replacement) but he's done nothing but tunnel Sevryn all game. It's kinda unsettling. Risk.nuke I feel could swing either way as well. Nisani is the most likely to be town out of these four. Sevryn I'm sure is scum. Finally, on the log situation: I did not fake those logs, and by all means I genuinely believed jcarl was town. He played very similarly (IMO) to how he played in resurrection. I wasn't really around for much of LoTR so I couldn't comment on his play there, but it's clear now that Erandorr probably checked jcarl and that's why he was so adamant about pushing his lynch. I've never seen jcarl play scum and by all means he was never on my radar. My fault for not considering all the possibilities. These are the logs I have of my conversations with jcarl. I am missing the first log I had with jcarl because my browser crashed. I had 3 conversations total with him, all yesterday. These are the last two. I'll recheck my inbox to see if I have anything else that would be useful. + Show Spoiler [jcarllog1] + Original Message From wherebugsgo: [16:39] <wherebugsgo> aight [16:39] <wherebugsgo> you were gonna send me logs right? [16:39] <jcarlsoniv_> of? [16:39] <wherebugsgo> your convos with Mig/Curu I believe [16:39] <jcarlsoniv_> i hadn't spoken with curu [16:40] <wherebugsgo> just Mig? [16:40] <jcarlsoniv_> but yeah, i can send you what i spoke to mig about [16:40] <wherebugsgo> k sounds good [16:40] <wherebugsgo> it's always almost impossible to tell whether players had spoken to Curu or not lol [16:40] <jcarlsoniv_> haha [16:40] <wherebugsgo> Curu would always talk to me about things that made it sound like he'd talked to the players [16:40] <wherebugsgo> rather than hearing through Mig [16:41] <wherebugsgo> anyway he mentioned he thought you were town based on an argument you had with Mig over whether Incog is town [16:41] <jcarlsoniv_> i didn't have an argument with mig [16:41] <jcarlsoniv_> more like [16:41] <jcarlsoniv_> a very civil discussion [16:41] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [16:41] <wherebugsgo> lol [16:43] <jcarlsoniv_> k, i sent what i spoke to mig about [16:44] <jcarlsoniv_> learn anything from risk.nuke? [16:45] <wherebugsgo> to be honest no [16:45] <wherebugsgo> I can send you the log of our convo if you want [16:45] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah, plz [16:48] <wherebugsgo> also [16:48] <wherebugsgo> I've been talking to sevryn [16:48] <wherebugsgo> really can't tell if he's town or mafia either [16:50] <jcarlsoniv_> it's risk's first game? O_o [16:50] <wherebugsgo> yes [16:50] <wherebugsgo> apparently [16:51] <wherebugsgo> now keeping that in mind [16:51] <wherebugsgo> sevryn said, don't look into it too much [16:51] <wherebugsgo> when I told sevryn it is risk's first game [16:51] <jcarlsoniv_> ? [16:51] <jcarlsoniv_> teh fack [16:51] <wherebugsgo> yeah...lol [16:51] <wherebugsgo> IMO [16:51] <wherebugsgo> sevryn is scumbuddies with Forumite [16:51] <wherebugsgo> and probably sinani [16:51] <wherebugsgo> but not 100% on that [16:51] <wherebugsgo> for now [16:51] <wherebugsgo> I'm going to leave my vote on risk [16:52] <wherebugsgo> and see if sinani shows up and votes him [16:52] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah i'd like to see how risk flips [16:52] <wherebugsgo> you want to actually lynch him? [16:52] <jcarlsoniv_> i think it being his first game is definitely something we SHOULD take into consideration [16:52] <wherebugsgo> exactly [16:52] <wherebugsgo> I mean, he's played like it's his first game [16:52] <wherebugsgo> for sure [16:52] <jcarlsoniv_> "is that scummy?" from your logs with him? [16:52] <wherebugsgo> lol [16:52] <jcarlsoniv_> why the hell [16:52] <wherebugsgo> I felt like saying [16:52] <wherebugsgo> why yes [16:52] <wherebugsgo> yes it is [16:52] <wherebugsgo> LOL [16:53] <jcarlsoniv_> hahahaha [16:53] <wherebugsgo> but yeah anyway [16:53] <wherebugsgo> if sevryn is not scum [16:53] <wherebugsgo> that leaves one of forumite/sinani/dropbear/xt to be the last two [16:54] <wherebugsgo> err two of rather [16:54] <jcarlsoniv_> that makes sense [16:55] <jcarlsoniv_> how do you plan on finding out if sev is scum? lol [16:55] <wherebugsgo> I don't believe [16:55] <wherebugsgo> uhh [16:55] <wherebugsgo> yeah good question [16:55] <wherebugsgo> idk [16:55] <jcarlsoniv_> do we have a pyro? [16:55] <wherebugsgo> doubt it [16:55] <wherebugsgo> not that I know of, anyway [16:55] <jcarlsoniv_> ~_~ [16:55] <wherebugsgo> I mean, you're not anything ,are you? [16:55] <jcarlsoniv_> nah [16:55] <jcarlsoniv_> unfortunately [16:55] <wherebugsgo> yeah same here lol [16:55] <wherebugsgo> we lost our medic [16:56] <jcarlsoniv_> i think [16:56] <wherebugsgo> and he was probably the only one [16:56] <jcarlsoniv_> people see how i play in past games [16:56] <jcarlsoniv_> and they're like [16:56] <jcarlsoniv_> WOW FUCK THAT HE'S NOT GETTING SHIT [16:56] <wherebugsgo> loool [16:56] <wherebugsgo> nah man [16:56] <wherebugsgo> you're a pretty good player IMO [16:56] <jcarlsoniv_> i used to be better [16:56] <wherebugsgo> I can tell you're town [16:56] <jcarlsoniv_> got real rusty after my ~6 month hiatus [16:56] <wherebugsgo> and if you're scum you're playing a damn fantastic game [16:57] <wherebugsgo> yeah maybe that's what happened to incog lol [16:57] <wherebugsgo> his mind was just not in it [16:57] <jcarlsoniv_> has it been a while for him? [16:57] <wherebugsgo> idk I know he hasn't played recently [16:57] <jcarlsoniv_> gotcha [16:57] <wherebugsgo> none of the super vets have [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> i gotta say though [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> i was pretty disappointed with the play of the "super vets" this game [16:58] <wherebugsgo> rofl [16:58] <wherebugsgo> only incog is a legendary vet I think [16:58] <wherebugsgo> he just died due to inactivity [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> i was expecting to be carried like you carried me in resurrection xD [16:58] <wherebugsgo> probably RL shit [16:58] <wherebugsgo> oh dude resurrection [16:58] <wherebugsgo> lol I loved that setup [16:58] <wherebugsgo> so baller [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> it was definitely [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> NOT [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> the game [16:58] <jcarlsoniv_> to come back with [16:59] <wherebugsgo> LOL [16:59] <wherebugsgo> no flip hahaha [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> srsly [16:59] <wherebugsgo> tbh I like that better [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> first no flip game i ever played [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> psh i don't [16:59] <wherebugsgo> I think you can make cool things happen with it [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> i hate not learning things after a lynch [16:59] <wherebugsgo> like all of it [16:59] <wherebugsgo> is on scumhunting lol [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> see [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> i'm bad at that [16:59] <wherebugsgo> meh [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [16:59] <wherebugsgo> have some confidence lol [16:59] <jcarlsoniv_> yah [16:59] <wherebugsgo> IMO even if you're not on the right track [16:59] <wherebugsgo> I think you can tell when something's wrong [16:59] <wherebugsgo> like honestl [16:59] <wherebugsgo> incog was such an easy lynch [17:00] <wherebugsgo> palmar was too. Who defended him? [17:00] <jcarlsoniv_> did anyone? [17:00] <wherebugsgo> me, forumite, incog [17:00] <wherebugsgo> lol [17:00] <jcarlsoniv_> xD [17:00] <wherebugsgo> forumite never did it directly [17:00] <jcarlsoniv_> i knew palmar was an easy lynch [17:00] <wherebugsgo> he just kept saying "I don't like wbg/jackal lynch I'd prefer Curu/Palmar and I lean Curu" [17:00] <wherebugsgo> over and over [17:00] <wherebugsgo> just never quantified his statements [17:00] <jcarlsoniv_> i may have been a bit bitter with him over LOTR still haha [17:00] <wherebugsgo> just kept saying he liked Curu better [17:01] <wherebugsgo> lawl Palmar [17:01] <wherebugsgo> idk why he hates scum [17:01] <wherebugsgo> he just rolled over and died [17:01] <wherebugsgo> as the fuckin pyro [17:01] <wherebugsgo> anyway [17:01] <wherebugsgo> let's try to determine [17:01] <jcarlsoniv_> [1:37:48 PM] risk.nuke: It just looked so dire with mig getting killed and then curu got himself modkilled [17:01] <wherebugsgo> this shit [17:01] <jcarlsoniv_> oh wow [17:01] <jcarlsoniv_> that didn't work at all [17:01] <jcarlsoniv_> h/o [17:01] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [17:02] <jcarlsoniv_> If you're town I can't let you belive I'm mafia, we can't afford it. [17:02] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [17:02] <jcarlsoniv_> wut is that [17:04] <wherebugsgo> lawl [17:04] <wherebugsgo> alright [17:04] <wherebugsgo> you think he's noob town or noob scum? [17:05] <jcarlsoniv_> he's either scum or REALLY FUCKING NOOB town [17:05] <jcarlsoniv_> like [17:05] <jcarlsoniv_> a lot of what he's saying is noob town [17:05] <wherebugsgo> LOL [17:05] <jcarlsoniv_> but there are little things in there [17:05] <jcarlsoniv_> that are like [17:05] <jcarlsoniv_> "why would he say that if he's town" [17:05] <wherebugsgo> yes, precisely [17:05] <wherebugsgo> now did you notice anything weird about the timestamps? [17:06] <jcarlsoniv_> uh not really? [17:06] <jcarlsoniv_> convo took 2.5 hours? [17:06] <wherebugsgo> not a long convo, is it? [17:06] <wherebugsgo> it's about as long as the one we've had [17:06] <wherebugsgo> in roughly 25 [17:07] <jcarlsoniv_> why was that? [17:07] <jcarlsoniv_> he take a long time to respond to everything? [17:07] <wherebugsgo> indeed [17:07] <wherebugsgo> this was on skype [17:07] <wherebugsgo> I went back and replaced his name and my name with our s/ns [17:07] <wherebugsgo> but otherwise it's unchanged [17:07] <wherebugsgo> the timestamps [17:07] <wherebugsgo> if you notice [17:07] <wherebugsgo> sometimes he takes as long as 6 minutes to respond [17:07] <wherebugsgo> actually I think the longest gap was 10 [17:07] <wherebugsgo> and then at one point I left cause I was impatient lol [17:08] <wherebugsgo> and came back 10 minutes later [17:08] <jcarlsoniv_> glad that's not suspicious or anything [17:08] <wherebugsgo> also since skype allows you to see the person typing [17:08] <wherebugsgo> he would type type type [17:08] <wherebugsgo> then erase it all [17:08] <wherebugsgo> then just sit there [17:08] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah i saw you say something about it [17:08] <jcarlsoniv_> like he was over cautious about what he was saying [17:08] <wherebugsgo> yeah exactly [17:08] <wherebugsgo> I have no idea why [17:08] <wherebugsgo> I talked to kenpachi [17:09] <wherebugsgo> and he was like yeah I do that too, but I don't spend five minutes replying [17:09] <wherebugsgo> and I was in total agreement...everyone erases a bit [17:09] <wherebugsgo> but no one does that [17:09] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [17:09] <jcarlsoniv_> i assume that's why you'd use skype over this though? [17:10] <jcarlsoniv_> at least, that's a strong reason [17:10] <wherebugsgo> nah he preferred skype lol [17:10] <wherebugsgo> tbh with you I never considered that until this guy did it [17:11] <jcarlsoniv_> hah [17:11] <wherebugsgo> but even so he has no opinions [17:11] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah [17:11] <jcarlsoniv_> even new people have opinions [17:11] <jcarlsoniv_> albeit, usually wrong ones [17:11] <wherebugsgo> right [17:11] <wherebugsgo> Sevryn has a few opinions [17:11] <wherebugsgo> but he has no opinion on Forumite [17:11] <wherebugsgo> which is really weird [17:11] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah, i'm about to read that log [17:11] <wherebugsgo> yeah read it and lemme know what you think, I'll brb [17:16] <jcarlsoniv_> kinda weird how he avoided forumite til you pressed it [17:17] <wherebugsgo> yep [17:17] <wherebugsgo> he was fine with sinani [17:17] <wherebugsgo> he was like "oh wat sinani's in the game wtf?" [17:17] <jcarlsoniv_> yah [17:17] <wherebugsgo> problem is he voted for risk lol [17:18] <wherebugsgo> so I guess the solution is to lynch forumite today [17:18] <wherebugsgo> but some people aren't willing to do that today [17:18] <wherebugsgo> and rather would wait to see if he lives till tomorrow [17:18] <jcarlsoniv_> well [17:18] <jcarlsoniv_> hmm [17:18] <jcarlsoniv_> if he is blue and we lynch him [17:18] <jcarlsoniv_> that really really sucks [17:18] <wherebugsgo> yeah that's exactly why people are war [17:18] <wherebugsgo> *wary [17:19] <jcarlsoniv_> if he lives til tomorrow, we get at least one more night with him [17:19] <wherebugsgo> to me he's been scum all game so I don't give a shit [17:19] <jcarlsoniv_> assuming he's blue [17:19] <jcarlsoniv_> but yeah, he's been scummy to me too [17:19] <wherebugsgo> yeah assuming he's blue he'll get shot [17:19] <wherebugsgo> by the mafia [17:19] <wherebugsgo> for being alive 3 nights in a row [17:19] <wherebugsgo> when it was obvious he wasn't VT [17:19] <jcarlsoniv_> maybe they're just derps [17:19] <wherebugsgo> no way [17:19] <wherebugsgo> well [17:19] <jcarlsoniv_> and are happier just killing VTs [17:19] <wherebugsgo> okay yeah I guess that's possible lol [17:19] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [17:19] <wherebugsgo> they shot a bunch of mutes [17:19] <wherebugsgo> and the only remaining players in the game [17:19] <wherebugsgo> are pretty much derps [17:19] <wherebugsgo> so yeah [17:19] <wherebugsgo> wtf [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> true [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> also [17:20] <wherebugsgo> wtf lol so we can't even assume that [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> you told sev i'm only a null??? [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> *cry* [17:20] <wherebugsgo> LOL [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> that hurts [17:20] <wherebugsgo> indeed [17:20] <wherebugsgo> don't worry [17:20] <wherebugsgo> not gonna tell sevryn shit [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> haha [17:20] <wherebugsgo> I don't want my reads leaking to scum [17:20] <wherebugsgo> wink wink [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> wink wink nudge nudge [17:20] <wherebugsgo> slap [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> =( [17:20] <wherebugsgo> oh I thought you liked slaps [17:20] <wherebugsgo> dammit [17:20] <jcarlsoniv_> no [17:21] <jcarlsoniv_> that was you [17:21] <wherebugsgo> oh right [17:21] <wherebugsgo> alright so we have sev/risk covered [17:21] <wherebugsgo> as in we don't fucking know what they are [17:21] <jcarlsoniv_> rofl [17:21] <jcarlsoniv_> feels like [17:21] <jcarlsoniv_> that's a common theme [17:21] <wherebugsgo> yeah [17:21] <wherebugsgo> this game is absolute trash [17:21] <jcarlsoniv_> too many nulls [17:21] <wherebugsgo> I got warned for posting too much in the thread [17:21] <wherebugsgo> by kurumi loll [17:21] <jcarlsoniv_> i saw that [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> kurumi real troll [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> on scum team [17:22] <wherebugsgo> lawl [17:22] <wherebugsgo> bah [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> doesn't want you posting, modkills curu lol [17:22] <wherebugsgo> both modkills were bs IMO [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> what was the other one? [17:22] <wherebugsgo> tnkted [17:22] <wherebugsgo> for not voting in the voting thread [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> oh [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> well [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> tbh [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> if i were to host a game, i'd be super strict [17:22] <jcarlsoniv_> like, no warnings for edits and shit [17:22] <wherebugsgo> yeah I can see the tnkted one but [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> cuz people should know by now [17:23] <wherebugsgo> true true [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> but yeah, the curu one sucks [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> i mean, i guess it's fair [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> but really fucks us [17:23] <wherebugsgo> curu actually thought the tnkted modkill was bs lol [17:23] <wherebugsgo> and his was okay [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> haha [17:23] <wherebugsgo> but w/e [17:23] <wherebugsgo> enough hosting discussion [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> dude [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> we're like [17:23] <jcarlsoniv_> super ADD [17:23] <wherebugsgo> loool [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> now [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> dropbear [17:24] <wherebugsgo> hey man this has been one of the most productive PMs I've had [17:24] <wherebugsgo> DB needs to show up [17:24] <wherebugsgo> or I want him dead [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> i agree [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> but i don't think it should happen now [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> i think we need to watch him closely [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> because [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> sev is right that DB has been tunneling [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> but [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> more often than not [17:24] <jcarlsoniv_> a tunnel this hard is town on town [17:24] <wherebugsgo> town on town action [17:25] <wherebugsgo> aight so let's assume they're both town [17:25] <wherebugsgo> that leaves us with four [17:25] <wherebugsgo> sinani risk forumite xt [17:25] <wherebugsgo> sinani/xt scum or not? [17:25] <jcarlsoniv_> god idk [17:25] <wherebugsgo> I mean in this case with this assumption one of them has to be [17:25] <jcarlsoniv_> i'm not sure what to make of NC's display [17:26] <wherebugsgo> yeah so I'ma throw another null wrench into the mix [17:26] <jcarlsoniv_> gun to head [17:26] <wherebugsgo> GM's rage seemed to be genuine [17:26] <jcarlsoniv_> out of those two [17:26] <jcarlsoniv_> i'd say sinani [17:26] <wherebugsgo> okay I agree [17:26] <jcarlsoniv_> but, again, not much to go on [17:26] <wherebugsgo> xt I think is town [17:26] <wherebugsgo> because he responded to me in a townie fashion earlier [17:26] <wherebugsgo> when I asked him for his reads [17:26] <jcarlsoniv_> k [17:26] <wherebugsgo> like [17:26] <wherebugsgo> aggressive townie fashion [17:26] <wherebugsgo> however the fact that he had no reads [17:26] <jcarlsoniv_> you'd know something about that, eh? [17:27] <wherebugsgo> lol [17:27] <wherebugsgo> he had no reads though. and like...he seemed to lack interest [17:27] <wherebugsgo> not sure what to pick up on that but I told him to get me reads within 23 hours [17:27] <wherebugsgo> before lynch basically [17:27] <wherebugsgo> we can't lynch him today anyway [17:27] <wherebugsgo> it'd be dumb [17:27] <jcarlsoniv_> yah [17:27] <jcarlsoniv_> i can imagine being a replacement sucks [17:27] <wherebugsgo> yeah I agree [17:28] <wherebugsgo> reading all the shit me incog and NC wrote lol [17:28] <wherebugsgo> but anyway he seemed to be putting in effort in reading it [17:28] <wherebugsgo> so I've actually been leaning green on him [17:28] <wherebugsgo> sinani is absolutely null again [17:28] <jcarlsoniv_> yeh [17:29] <jcarlsoniv_> le sigh [17:29] <wherebugsgo> I'm curious though [17:29] <wherebugsgo> if we could get [17:29] <wherebugsgo> DB and Sevryn [17:29] <wherebugsgo> in the same IRC chat [17:29] <wherebugsgo> and see what they start saying lol [17:29] <jcarlsoniv_> idk [17:29] <jcarlsoniv_> might be [17:29] <jcarlsoniv_> a really quiet chat room [17:29] <wherebugsgo> lol [17:29] <wherebugsgo> I'm going to post this in the thread [17:29] <wherebugsgo> that they should PM me [17:31] <jcarlsoniv_> now, kenpachi accuses me and supersoft [17:31] <jcarlsoniv_> forumite soft defends [17:31] <jcarlsoniv_> what do you make of that [17:32] <wherebugsgo> kenpachi accusing two townies [17:32] <wherebugsgo> Forumite jumping on the opportunity to mislynch [17:32] <wherebugsgo> kenpachi is just careless [17:32] <jcarlsoniv_> now that you say that [17:32] <jcarlsoniv_> i vaguely remember that from like a year ago [17:33] <wherebugsgo> about kenpachi? [17:33] <jcarlsoniv_> yeh [17:33] <wherebugsgo> oh lol [17:33] <wherebugsgo> well [17:33] <wherebugsgo> I've only played with him twice [17:33] <wherebugsgo> here and resurrection [17:33] <wherebugsgo> not much difference tbh [17:33] <wherebugsgo> I get a townie vibe from him in PMs [17:33] <wherebugsgo> but you should talk to him [17:33] <wherebugsgo> you should talk to all these players actually [17:33] <wherebugsgo> don't mention I sent you [17:33] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah, i'll see what i can find out [17:34] <jcarlsoniv_> although, if kenpachi thinks i'm scum [17:34] <jcarlsoniv_> he may not want to say anything at all [17:34] <wherebugsgo> eh generally [17:34] <wherebugsgo> the way you talk to someone will convince them of you being scum or town [17:34] <wherebugsgo> so I'm sure if you just talk to him like we've talked it'll be fine [17:34] <jcarlsoniv_> nah man [17:34] <jcarlsoniv_> imma be like [17:35] <jcarlsoniv_> YO Y U THINK I SCUM [17:35] <wherebugsgo> LOL [17:35] <wherebugsgo> aight so [17:35] <wherebugsgo> this is what I'm gonna do [17:35] <wherebugsgo> I'm gonna make a spreadsheet [17:35] <wherebugsgo> with numbers and shit [17:35] <wherebugsgo> of who thinks who is scum [17:35] <jcarlsoniv_> numbers??? no wai [17:35] <wherebugsgo> then maybe we can identify our mafia that way [17:35] <wherebugsgo> yeah man numbers and colors and shit [17:35] <jcarlsoniv_> why don't you make it a google doc [17:35] <wherebugsgo> yeah I will [17:35] <jcarlsoniv_> ok [17:36] <wherebugsgo> oh wtf [17:36] <wherebugsgo> I pressed "create spreedsheet" [17:36] <wherebugsgo> and it did nothing [17:36] <jcarlsoniv_> you fail the internets [17:37] <wherebugsgo> what the fak [17:37] <wherebugsgo> lol wtf [17:37] <wherebugsgo> it's seriously not doing anything [17:37] <wherebugsgo> tried it in chrome and firefox [17:38] <jcarlsoniv_> T_T [17:38] <jcarlsoniv_> lemme try [17:38] <jcarlsoniv_> on fucking IE cuz i'm on a library comp [17:38] <wherebugsgo> lol + Show Spoiler [jcarllog2] + Original Message From wherebugsgo: [17:49] <wherebugsgo___> well that was dumb [17:49] <wherebugsgo___> got booted off chrome somehow [17:49] == jcarlsoniv_ [webchat@198.7.239.20] [17:49] == realname : http://webchat.quakenet.org [17:49] == channels : #loonybin [17:49] == server : *.quakenet.org [QuakeNet IRC Server] [17:49] == End of WHOIS [17:50] <jcarlsoniv_> rofl [17:50] <jcarlsoniv_> you have [17:50] <jcarlsoniv_> so many underscores [17:50] <wherebugsgo___> yeah lol [17:51] <wherebugsgo___> I figured out what was wrong with the thing [17:51] <wherebugsgo___> it's google's "new look" in the doc page [17:51] <wherebugsgo___> switched it to classic and it worked lol [17:51] <jcarlsoniv_> lol k [17:51] <jcarlsoniv_> so you're making it? [17:52] <wherebugsgo___> indeed will start now [17:52] <wherebugsgo___> okay [17:52] <wherebugsgo___> so [17:52] <wherebugsgo___> most likely scum to least likely for you? [17:52] <wherebugsgo___> remaining 12 players: [17:52] <wherebugsgo___> 2. sinani206 3. risk.nuke 4. jcarlsoniv 5. wherebugsgo 7. Nisani201 8. Erandorr 9. NotChezinu/Replaced by xtffc 13. Kenpachi 14. DropBear 15. Forumite 19. supersoft 20. Sevryn [17:53] <jcarlsoniv_> uhhhhh [17:53] <jcarlsoniv_> this is like a fucking IQ test... [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> lawl [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> all of them [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> are below 80 [17:54] <jcarlsoniv_> below 80 what? [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> IQ [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> so basically [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> pick out the dumb townies [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> from the dumb scum game [17:54] <wherebugsgo___> that's what this is hahaha [17:55] <jcarlsoniv_> lovely [17:56] <jcarlsoniv_> gonna take a minute, doing hw at the same time haha [17:57] <wherebugsgo___> k sounds good [17:57] <wherebugsgo___> take your time no rush [18:04] <jcarlsoniv_> forumite/risknuke, sinani, DB, xtffc, supersoft, Sev, Kenpachi, Erandorr, nisani, WBG/jcarl [18:04] <jcarlsoniv_> i guess [18:04] <wherebugsgo___> aight [18:05] <wherebugsgo___> I'll put that in [18:05] <wherebugsgo___> at what point [18:05] <wherebugsgo___> do you cross from unsure [18:05] <wherebugsgo___> to town [18:05] <jcarlsoniv_> at WBG/jcarl [18:05] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [18:05] <jcarlsoniv_> jk [18:05] <jcarlsoniv_> uhhh [18:05] <wherebugsgo___> sev/ken or xt/super [18:05] <jcarlsoniv_> probably somewhere between kenpachi and erandorr [18:06] <wherebugsgo___> ah okay [18:06] <jcarlsoniv_> actually, switch kenpachi and erandorr, i don't really have much on erandorr [18:06] <wherebugsgo___> alright [18:06] <wherebugsgo___> so [18:06] <wherebugsgo___> erandor and below [18:06] <wherebugsgo___> is unsure [18:06] <wherebugsgo___> and risk/forumite is scum [18:07] <jcarlsoniv_> how far is that from your list? [18:07] <wherebugsgo___> mmm [18:07] <wherebugsgo___> not terribly far but I think I have more info than you do [18:08] <wherebugsgo___> basically based on what Curu and Mig told me [18:08] <wherebugsgo___> unfortunately they didn't give me reasons [18:08] <wherebugsgo___> but I'm sure they had them [18:08] <wherebugsgo___> you, me, kenpachi, super, erandor, nisani are all town [18:08] <wherebugsgo___> like above 90% on all of you [18:08] <wherebugsgo___> unfortunately erandor is mute but I have to say his posting in the thread is not scummy at all [18:09] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah that's why i'm unsure on erandorr [18:09] <wherebugsgo___> so basically out of these I'd rank kenpachi as the lowest on being sure because he said you and super are scum for no reason [18:09] <wherebugsgo___> but I'm still like 90 on him [18:10] <wherebugsgo___> then we get into [18:10] <wherebugsgo___> xt/DB/sev/sinani [18:10] <wherebugsgo___> who are all derp and could be either [18:10] <wherebugsgo___> then forumite/risk of whom I think forumite is 95% scum and risk who is like 70% lol [18:11] <wherebugsgo___> but out of these I'd rank xt the highest, closest to town [18:11] <wherebugsgo___> then DB/sev are equal [18:11] <wherebugsgo___> sinani third to last and then risk/forumite [18:11] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah i can jump on board with that [18:13] <wherebugsgo___> yeah [18:13] <wherebugsgo___> it comes down to determining which FoSes match [18:13] <wherebugsgo___> the DB/sev thing is like??? [18:13] <wherebugsgo___> probably both retard town [18:13] <jcarlsoniv_> and we need to see who defends whom [18:13] <wherebugsgo___> yeah exactly [18:13] <jcarlsoniv_> and who condemns whom [18:15] <wherebugsgo___> did you notice [18:15] <wherebugsgo___> sevryn glossed over sinani? [18:15] <wherebugsgo___> AND forumite [18:15] <wherebugsgo___> he asked if sinani was playing [18:15] <wherebugsgo___> but he didn't answer my question [18:15] <wherebugsgo___> he answered it about Forumite when I pressed the issue [18:16] <wherebugsgo___> but he gave me no opinion about sinani [18:16] <jcarlsoniv_> yeah i did [18:16] <jcarlsoniv_> i keep getting mixed up with nisani and sinani personally lol [18:16] <wherebugsgo___> lol [18:16] <wherebugsgo___> nisani is town [18:16] <wherebugsgo___> I can almost guarantee that [18:17] <jcarlsoniv_> lol k [18:17] <wherebugsgo___> as for sinani he could be on the moon and I wouldn't know [18:18] <jcarlsoniv_> yah [18:18] <jcarlsoniv_> we need to pressure the lurkers [18:18] <jcarlsoniv_> weird for me to say cuz i'm kinda one of them [18:18] <jcarlsoniv_> at least [18:18] <jcarlsoniv_> i'm a thread lurker [18:18] <wherebugsgo___> yeah but you're not a PM lurker [18:18] <wherebugsgo___> not like DB [18:18] <wherebugsgo___> who is both [18:19] <wherebugsgo___> or sinani [18:19] <wherebugsgo___> who just sucks [18:19] <jcarlsoniv_> lol [18:19] <jcarlsoniv_> ok, i'm going back to my room [18:19] <jcarlsoniv_> save these logs [18:19] <jcarlsoniv_> cuz i can't, lol [18:20] <jcarlsoniv_> i'll be back on in like [18:20] <jcarlsoniv_> 5 - 10 minutes [18:20] <wherebugsgo___> alight sounds good Keep in mind these were all before I talked to DB in PMs. After I talked to DB in PMs I had a strong feeling he was town. At this point to be honest with all of you the only player I can say I really think is scum is sevryn. After that we've got one scum among 6 players so I imagine it shouldn't be too hard to find the last one if we just pressure everybody. ##vote Sevryn I dont understand the case on me. I know I have been unactive and I apologize for that.but you say your sure im scum in the middle and then you really think i am scum. which is it? are you sure or do you just really think im scum? You vote for me and only have two lines in your entire post? a vote post thats 99% defensive seems kinda odd. also your whole defense here + Show Spoiler + On October 08 2011 12:52 wherebugsgo wrote: I had a feeling you thought I was scum. That's why I PMed you. I can't really say anything other than the fact that my play is not consistent with being scum. Yes, I know I haven't had the best reads this game, and for whatever reason people are expecting me to play better (and yes, I admit, I have played badly.) I've gone on tilt several times this game already and I think that was part of my mistake. Every time I did it I destroyed whatever remained of my ability to reason. Anyway, tomorrow you guys can decide whether you'd like to win or not. I realize I haven't been much use to you all (and I'll take the responsibility for xt's mislynch) but if you lynch me you'll be down another townie and it's not like that'll help you at all. is basically you saying dont lynch me guiz im town sorry about my bad play ##vote wherebugsgo | ||
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On October 08 2011 14:27 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm defending myself therefore I'm scum lol. Dude Sevryn if any other player were to play like you, they'd get insta lynched. But because you've made a name for yourself for being scummy as town, I have uncertainty about you. That's why it sucks. I can't say I'm for certain you're mafia, since you always play like this. But, the problem is that there are two scum and you've been scummy to everyone all game. its not that your defending yourself that makes you scum its that if you take out all of your defenses your entire post is I'm sure sevryn is scum I really think sevryn is scum then you vote for me thats your entire vote post regarding me what kind of vote post is that | ||
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On October 08 2011 15:30 DropBear wrote: Has everyone forgotten what happened yesterday so quickly? Sevryn was about to be lynched and then a sudden miraculous last minute switch saves him. Can we please just hurry up and kill him already! I don't think bugs is mafia, he is just erratic. He's obviously trying. gotta give your props for being consistent. I dont think you have mentioned anyone else this entire game. and last minute switches dont mean shit | ||
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On October 09 2011 08:19 Kenpachi wrote: ##vote Sevyrn safest vote atm. really poor vote for me aswell. whats the case against me? that ive been inactive? that ive acted scummy? tell me why you think im scummy. if its based purely because of inactivity there are people who have been more inactive than me namely dropbear. and I think WBG has been scummier what with his misread after misread. On October 09 2011 09:25 Forumite wrote: Jcarlsoniv was reluctant to vote Sevryn, and Sevryn himself acted more like a defiant Scum than a worried Townie when faced with a snipershot, and later the lynch. I am a drunk demoman why would i be worried about dieing? only scum and blues are worried about dieing because when scum die town gains more information about their team thats why when scum know they are dieing they stop talking. If i get lynched who else do you think is scummy? | ||
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On October 09 2011 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote: At this point I just want Sevryn to flip. I'll try to PM people and see who might be scum. Kenpachi and super are probably town, and I'm going to work on the assumption that you are as well.. Nisani/DB/risk could be either IMO but I'm leaning town on DB. What info do you get when I flip? | ||
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On October 09 2011 10:37 Forumite wrote: Craplogic, of course you are worried about dying as Town, no matter your role, because mislynches at this time will likely lose the game for Town. You are just helping Scum if you don´t defend yourself. Also, seriously, your defence is that even if we lynch you, finding your scumbuddy will be hard? My defense is that there are much better people to lynch than me at the moment. Also The me not being worried about dieing was to be shot by forumite not a mislynch. at the time me dieing would have givin the town some information and helped us win so I wasnt afraid to die. If i thought dieing would help the town i would die in a minute because thats my win condition. any game where WBG is town he is pretty good at finding scum so should we just be like "oh hey hes having an off game npnp" or should we realize that maybes hes not finding scum because thats not good for himself? Also dropbear is the definition of scummy lurker. he drops by every blue moon to accuse me and then disappears into the night. I am fine with either lynch but one of them needs to go. Forumite what is the case on me? can you site the reasons you think Im scum? the whole case on me is people going yea sevryn is being scummy lets lynch him. I dont even know how im being scummy besides prehaps me being inactive but if you use that then dropbear is even scummier so I dont understand why I am up for lynch unless WBG doesnt wanna lynch his scum buddie. The scum team is WBG and Dropbear | ||
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On October 10 2011 06:19 wherebugsgo wrote: Sorry for the absence; @risk, I did post plenty of evidence as to why Sevryn is scum. I did it yesterday, no real need to repost it all. If you want a TL;DR it's basically: Sevryn has no fear of dying He has contributed 0. Literally nothing. He seems to have no intention of contributing anything, other than accusing me obviously He is never around at critical times. Lastly, for the second scum it's possibly Nisani. I'm fairly certain Sevryn will flip scum but even in the chance that he doesn't, town still has a good chance. In fact, it might evenbe easier because there'd be 6 players and 2 scum. DB IMO is town. Kenpachi is town. Forumite is town. Super is probable town. Risk I can't get a real read because he's new but he could very well be scum. Nisani could be scum. That's all I have. I realize I could be wrong again but we'll see how it goes. Scum fears dieing vanilla town does not I've contributed my thoughts and reads you seem to be ignoring voting nc day one wasn't filler I wanted him lynched And the whole not being here at vital times I work a lot of evenings | ||
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