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On September 12 2011 04:51 GMarshal wrote: My wincondition is now to outpost Dr.H. So, can we make the thread hit page 100 before day 1 is over? I think we can! ^_^ Count me in. | ||
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WBG is almost definitely not scum, just put yourselves in his shoes, why the shit would he post the things he's done if he was scum, he's basically piling on attention and scummyness by wanting to look for his precious, outright demanding it. I'll be voting for Errandor. | ||
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I don't like the case on prplhz either. | ||
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And DrH dying sucks, because it means I can't just tunnel him today, I actually need to find another scum today. prplhz should probably give the ring away to his strongest townread. I'd go with one of Radfield, Sandroba, myself and pyo. | ||
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On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote: prplhz should probably give the ring away to his strongest townread. I'd go with one of Radfield, Sandroba, myself and pyo. Derp... prplhz said he doesn't actually have the ring. | ||
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On September 20 2011 19:02 Palmar wrote: Derp... prplhz said he doesn't actually have the ring. In any case, if you're lying, you should consider giving it away. btw, Sandroba is almost definitely town, but only if he takes his vote off me. I'm basically confirmed town from my exchanges with DrH, but only people like sandroba/syllo etc will see it. We need to keep an eye on syllo... yarly. chaoser is also very likely town. I don't like the smell of iGrok and Kita... | ||
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@prplhz: do you actually have a town read on someone? I hope you don't dismiss the other people I mentioned because you're being thick and failing to see I'm not scum. Sandroba is looking pretty damn town, unless of course he really wants to lynch me, if he does he's scum because that's stupid and sandroba isn't stupid. iGrok's play is so much more passive and less assertive than it was in Ace's game. I'm thinking he's scummery. I'm gonna read the context of his posts better, but just a quick filter and you can see he's not really pushing any ideas, he's just being derp and making one-liners and lists. | ||
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But I know it's extremely hard to work with you're stubborn and have really bad reads. I just hope that you'll be able to figure out what to do if you actually are the ring bearer. And I hope our medics understand that you're a great target tonight too. In any case, it's time to lynch mafia. ##Vote iGrok | ||
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On September 20 2011 23:11 syllogism wrote: Palmar please give me a reason to believe you are town besides your resurrection mafia-esque apathy . It will do for now, but you've to start posting. And lol at you claiming that you would have been pushing for DrH if you had cared enough. Why do you think Radfield is town, given that Erandorr flipped town and based on his post earlier today he was going to go for two additional town lynches (chaos13 and me)? And now he finds his own wagon scummy, even me despite specifically wanting me to switch. Speaking of the lynch, it was still better than WBG/prplplz lynches. I may be tunneling due to the night kills making very little sense (saurun's ability allowed them to kill whoever they wanted), because he IS contributing more than anyone really. I'll have to find one of his scum games to see what his scum play looks like. Anything more recent than Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Mafia? look no further than close casket mafia. | ||
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On September 20 2011 23:09 Jackal58 wrote: Don't even start. Palmar - What exactly were you trying to prove with your day 1 BS? Prplhz - Were you implying before about your hit that it came from a vig? If you were why do you think that? I'd guess if a vig shot he shot Bugs. Prove? what? I was honest, I had a ton of shit going on over the weekend so I really simply couldn't be arsed reading the thread. It's no big deal though, you guys only derpd as much as expected. | ||
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On September 20 2011 23:24 syllogism wrote: Yes, but that was a no flip game so I was hoping something more standard Just look at his day 1 play. Even as no-flip it reeked of scum (sadly I was a noob at the time and didn't push my read). This time around he just feels like town-hero. You don't though! | ||
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@jcarl: sure, I played one game with you and you spent most of the time defending mafia and voting townies. I don't wanna be a dick though, so here's a hint: Re-read what you posted about my play. | ||
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Syllogism is... dangerous, he's echoing what Sandroba and I are saying which makes sense if he's town, but he'd do it as scum anyway, because as soon as he disagrees on bad reasoning he's scum. He has made a few good calls though, but I expect him too, both as scum and town. So the rest are probably lurking, or they're people like Jackal whose alignment I simply can't deduce due to him having a meta of being useless/wrong enough as town that I can't figure him out as scum. Thing is, townies like posting more than mafia does, and I have quite a few good town reads. I'm actually reading now, so it'll pick up soon enough. We can only lynch one guy today anyway, and iGrok is a great candidate. Go compare his style this game to his style as town in Ace's game, I'm not talking about content or amount, I'm talking about attitude and context. | ||
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On September 21 2011 02:06 GGQ wrote: iGrok has done nothing to alleviate my suspicions and remains my #1 scum read. I can't find anyone who seems directly connected to him, except perhaps archon for a chainsaw vote on me after I voted igrok I want to address the rampant tendency of people to post their town reads. Why are we doing this? Unless the person is at risk of getting lynched, there's no reason to talk about who you think is town or pro-town. You're just giving the mafia free targets. I'm gonna take a look at that cipher now brb Mafia already knows they're town. I do it to try to influence other people's reads and stop stupid wagons. For example I tell people Sandroba is town because I want people to listen to Sandroba. | ||
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On September 21 2011 17:29 syllogism wrote: Are you going to do anything useful all game? I'm voting iGrok! | ||
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Even if in some crazy world his claim is true (I don't fucking believe it for a second), then he's a survivor and can as well ally with the mafia if they do well. Just kill him, I think he's not third party, I think he's scum, and should be deaded. | ||
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Think about it, if his win-condition truly is surviving he'd never have claimed a damn survivor, because he KNOWS we'll lynch him at some point, just to make sure he's not lying. | ||
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I'm not going to respond to a case made by scum Cyber, sorry. I can answer some of your questions though, because given the last game I played with you, you were dumb enough to believe shit like "mafia shoots people who are obviously town, but wrong" and then voting for obvious townies. some things. a) it's not bandwagoning when I'm the first person to vote him b) discuss other people all you want, but not lynching iGrok would be nothing sort of stupid right now. c) I always scumhunt on meta only. Call me bad for it, but I'm actually very effective at finding scum. I'm a bit of a dick so I'm less effective at convincing town. But yeah, iGrok claiming is weird and unbelievable. | ||
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On September 22 2011 02:25 jcarlsoniv wrote: But I don't understand, logically, why with only 3 votes, he would claim as scum. Because scum sometimes overreact to pressure. Why would he do it as 3rd party survivor? He knows he will be lynched or killed eventually if he's telling the truth, but he isn't. | ||
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On September 22 2011 02:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Vote for whoever you feel to be the most deserving of a lynch. This is not a majority required game, a no-lynch won't occur. Stop giving bad advice. If you have a good case, make it. If it doesn't take off, take a stance towards the other cases. If you think one of the cases is not terrible, vote for that, because townies voting random wagons that aren't working gives mafia statistically more sway in the vote. | ||
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On September 22 2011 02:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote: So can you provide the meta your using with comparison or not? I already stated it... day 1 of some mafia game by Ace. It's really not relevant anymore since he claimed an anti town role. Then he claimed a medic save (no medic in their right mind would save him at that point). | ||
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congratulations, you're now on the list of people I'll just pretend don't exist. | ||
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On September 22 2011 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I meant to say, at least that is what he claims. well you're right, he does win with mafia So, let me sum this shit up. iGrok claims 3rd party role that wins with mafia. We have Cyber_cheese defending him like the baddie he is, could be town/could be mafia we have chaoser telling us to let mafia deal with him... what the hell? mafia would not shoot him in a million years. mafia. and we have Drazerk claiming medic to save 3rd party (what the shit?) because he's sure mafia will go after him.... mafia. can't be this terrible. This is hilarious. | ||
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Either terrible or scum, leaning scum. | ||
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On September 22 2011 08:04 Drazerk wrote: Vigi shoot Palmar not iGrok Medics protect me if you have a decent medic target I am open to suggestions And yeah I'm probably going to die now. fuck off | ||
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Please don't do stupid stuff no more. | ||
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On September 22 2011 19:39 Cyber_Cheese wrote: When presented with the choice, he chose jackal for whatever reason,and then all those people figured they could follow his lead. While you should remember that Jackal didn't look innocent, the case was better on Palmar than it was on Jackal, I suspect him and/or several of the people that moved to Jackal are scum. These people were on both Errandor and Jackal's wagons at days end, and in my opinion are therefore people we should be wary of: -Radfield -kitaman27 -OriginalName -TranceStorm -Drazerk You are the master of terrible logic. | ||
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On September 22 2011 20:09 Radfield wrote: Your play reminds me so much of scum Ace I don't even know what to say. You're like mini-Ace. Who should we kill tonight. Cyber_cheese or Drazerk. Both are directly pushing scum agenda in this game. Problem is that both are capable of playing badly enough to do it as town anyway. Alternatively we can kill chaoser. | ||
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On September 22 2011 21:04 prplhz wrote: @palmar how the hell is drazerk pushing scum agenda? if he is pushing scum agenda then igrok is clearly scum, why doesn't he appear on your list? he's making stupid calls. he made a claim that's basically unbelievable, and yes i still think iGrok is scum, but sadly he's doing the kill. | ||
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On September 22 2011 23:47 syllogism wrote: So predictably igrok is completely worthless at least if we pick the target for him, assuming scum has a roleblocker yes, that's why he should NOT shoot, and then we hang him tomorrow! | ||
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On September 22 2011 23:48 chaoser wrote: If you think syllogism is looking townie then obviously Drazerk should be looking townish too. Syllogism said he shot iGrok but then iGrok survived. Drazerk immediately starts dropping hints all over that he's the medic that protected iGrok. The response was quick enough that the only way Drazerk as mafia could have done it is if it was all preplanned. you're a dumbass if you believe this. I don't think you are, because you're being maliciously ignorant. | ||
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why did you vote to lynch a townie over scum? | ||
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I think you're actually good enough to understand the situation, but you're just choosing not to because unfortunately you rolled scum again. Actually I know you're one of the best players in this game, so anything silly you do paints you red like the ocean. | ||
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On September 23 2011 00:52 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hello! Because I clearly have a lot to learn in this game again. Looking back, at the end of the day, the choices were you and jackal. Jackal flipped town. So you're right. I should have voted for scum. Should have left my vote on you. funny man. The choice was Jackal/iGrok. And one of them claimed an anti-town role. | ||
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On September 23 2011 01:26 GGQ wrote: Do you believe that iGrok is malicious third party or mafia? Just curious. Mafia. | ||
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Press "filter" on Radfield's posts. The press "All" Then press "Ctrl+F" and type in "igrok". Notice how he fully supports allowing igrok to confirm himself, basically backing off wanting to lynch him. also I want to point out that mafia would really welcome the opportunity to push 3rd party lynches, because it gives them town cred without having to bus their own. iGrok can't possibly be 3rd party, he's scum. ##Vote iGrok | ||
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Premise: Someone idiot claims 3rd party. option a): Push for his lynch, because no matter what you can't be faulted for wanting to kill him. option b): Push for a lynch on a townie and defend the 3rd party, putting your neck out and failing miserably. Would any sane mafia pick option b ?? I don't see it happening, there is no doubt in my mind now that iGrok is scum, because mafia would have gladly hanged him if he wasn't one of them. | ||
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The simplest explanation is always the correct one, iGrok is scum. | ||
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On September 23 2011 21:10 heist wrote: If the options were between iGrok (3rd party) and Jackal (town), how can you even make an argument based on how mafia voted? In fact it would make more sense for mafia to lynch the townie rather than the neutral. The simplest explanation is that he is telling the truth. It's so easy to vote for him and have a superficial reason for an explanation. Everyone's "justification" amounts to nothing more than "He's lying. Let's lynch him because I think I'm right". this is incorrect, a serial killer is a threat to the mafia, especially when the mafia is doing well. In addition, mafia loses town cred by pushing townie lynches and gains it by killing 3rd parties. | ||
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On September 23 2011 21:20 heist wrote: Mafia gains town cred by killing 3rd parties. Yes, exactly what I want to try and stop. fuck it, you're probably town, but too stubborn to actually think. I'll try my luck elsewhere. | ||
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Sandroba and Syllogism are like the two best town players in this game, they both died tonight. Perhaps you should have a look at what they had to say so far this game. | ||
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not that it matters chaoser is scummery scummery scum. | ||
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can we get a name to fit the claim? | ||
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Also thanks cyber, you basically confirmed chaoser's claim to be true. Hands off my brother Kita. Can we now hang iGrok? | ||
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On September 22 2011 07:27 kitaman27 wrote: iGrok here are your conditions, if you fail to follow them, we instantly lynch you: 1) You will never receive the ring. Don't bother asking for it again. You becoming bulletproof is of little interest to town. 2) You shoot tonight at the target we provide you. You're not holding on to your kp until late game where you can decide to use it on whichever faction benefits you most. 3) You're not allowed to completely disappear for the remainder of the game. You don't get a free pass. You have to continue to give us your scum reads. Between Palmar and Jackal, I think Jackal is probably the better choice. He just lacks the aggressiveness and the confidence that I'm used to seeing from him. He played a similar style back in PTP (1 or 2?) where he never really accused anyone and maintained a low profile as the serial killer. ##Vote Jackal58 On September 24 2011 00:05 kitaman27 wrote: That's funny, cause I win when Evil has been purged from Middle Earth. That includes you. On September 23 2011 08:02 kitaman27 wrote: Or scum. Him claiming to falsely take a hit would be consistent with his fake dt claim. He is completely hiding in the shadows. | ||
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yet you're one of the retards who pushed against his lynch to kill a townie this is great! | ||
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On September 24 2011 00:22 kitaman27 wrote: So I've gone from "baller and hero of the people" to "retard" in an hours span? That's nice. igrok needs to be dealt with as well, but today chaoser gets lynched. Do you really buy his claim Palmar? You went from saying he is scummy scum scum to accepting a rediculous claim in no time flat. yep. do you have a problem with it? On September 21 2011 15:32 syllogism wrote: Either he is lying scum or a "neutral" third party whose win con involves killing a townie. Our win con is to purge all evil and it doesn't get more much more evil than a balrog Either way if he doesn't flip mafia, curu really messed up This guy is the best player in the game. He's making so much sense it's painful. You just explained that your win condition is to purge evil, and I agree with syllo, it doesn't get much more evil than a balrog. Also I believe chaoser's claim based on several things. Boromir is almost definitely in the game, this is just speculation. My own role includes exactly the same "Faramir, Lord of Gondor", which seems fitting. No one counter-claimed the kill on Radfield, and none of the people that died would have had the kill-flavor "put to the sword". Especially since we know syllo already used his kill. | ||
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On September 24 2011 00:34 kitaman27 wrote: Give me one example in tl mafia history that there was a town aligned bulletproof compulsive vig. he could very well be an SK So a neutral fun-loving survivor Balrog should absolutely not be hanged, but a possible-SK Boromir needs to be hanged immediately? YOU'RE AWESOME BRO | ||
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By your logic we have 2 sks, one of them has successfully killed mafia, let's reward him with another night! | ||
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iGrok did that... :D he has all the makings of a town vigilante! He's killed scum, participated in the game, NOT CLAIMED 3rd PARTY, he mentioned being Lord of Gondor which fits perfectly with my title. | ||
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On September 24 2011 00:51 chaoser wrote: We're brothers yo! Stewards of Gordor ftw! Sucks that dad was a bit of a dick. | ||
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Our shadows taller than our soul. There walks a Balrog we all know Who shines red fire and wants to show How everything still turns to shit. And if you focus very hard Some sense will come to you at last. When all are one and one is all To be a scum and not to hang. | ||
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On September 24 2011 01:35 kitaman27 wrote: jcarl, you don't buy the fake claim do you? DIE SCUM DIE | ||
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On September 24 2011 01:37 kitaman27 wrote: Heh so now I went from "town hero", to "retard", to "scum"? -_- There ain't a reason you and me should be alone Tonight, yeah baby But I got a reason that you-hoo should take me home tonight I need a man that thinks it right when it's so wrong, Tonight yeah baby Right on the limit's where we know we both belong tonight It's hot to feel the rush, To brush the dangerous I'm gonna run back to, to the edge with you Where we can both fall far in love. I'm on the edge of glory, And I'm hanging on a moment of truth, Out on the edge of glory, And I'm hanging on a moment with you, I'm on the edge The edge The edge The edge The edge The edge The edge I'm on the edge of glory And I'm hanging on a moment with you I'm on the edge with you | ||
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On September 24 2011 21:01 supersoft wrote: ##vote: OriginalName I have nothing to add to pyos and heists accuses. I filtered ON and I got the same impression. I don't know whether iGrok really checked him or not, and I don't care. I want to kill scum today. | ||
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Also, what a baller claim iGrok, you're a hero. | ||
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Why are you morons voting ON over iGrok? | ||
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On September 25 2011 03:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that. I know I promised to pretend you don't exist... but are you fucking kidding me? hahahahahhahahahahaha | ||
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pyo, heist and cheesekid are the remaining scum | ||
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I'm not scummy | ||
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btw, I think neither of heist and pyo are scum. I think we should be looking at kita. | ||
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On September 26 2011 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who else? Why shouldn't we hang you? Because I'm not scum. Now, I'm repeating, I threw out deliberately bad accusations during last night because I trusted chaoser to pick his own target, and I knew our medic would be on the ringbearer. I wanted to live. So, without further ado, here are the people that need to be considered. ON: lurked throughout the game, he didn't really spend much time on the iGrok situation until when it was clear that iGrok was going to get lynched, then he suddenlty went boss-mode all in to lynch kita. I think it may have been a bus. Cyber-cheese: he's fought to keep scum alive, he's accused me on terrible reasons so many times, he's used bad logic throughout the game. I really have a hard time believing anyone can be as bad as he is, but it is possible he's just a terrible townie. Kitaman: he double-standarded massively with the iGrok and chaoser situations. He approached them from a completely different point of view, he did of course give in at the end, but I think that may have been him trying to save his own skin. he is someone we need to look at. Archon: just for being derp. I really think heist and pyo are just bad, not scum, I've played with them before and this does rather look like their town play. | ||
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Initially I think Kita is the safest lynch. His ability is very... weird, it's a version of tracker that's very seldom in play, and generally the blue roles have been much more notable characters than that elf he claimed. | ||
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On September 26 2011 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar, why ON? Do you think iGrok lied to bus hes teammate? I think they may have done exactly that, because we were never going to believe them. I'd rather lynch kita or cheese today, if we have some form of a dt check or something, ON would be a ridiculously good target. | ||
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On September 26 2011 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: And why kita? He's basically "confirmed town" right? how is he confirmed town? | ||
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On September 26 2011 08:35 TranceStorm wrote: But its even weirder to play as mafia. Remember that he correctly discerned that chaoser had killed someone. That seems to be more of a town ability than a mafia one. I don't understand why a mafia character would have the ability to simply search for other people who have killed. I want to know exactly how that ability works. | ||
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also, I re-read the thread, and well, if Drazerk is actually the medic he'd obviously know the difference between a doublestack and unblockable because if it's unblockable doesn't get notified that he blocked a hit, but if it's doublestack he does get notified. Can a mod confirm that medics get notified if they block a hit. | ||
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Palmar is probably town, but the bulletproof vigilante thing is way too op with all the power roles that flipped. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:44 Palmar wrote: I think scenario 1 is quite likely. Palmar is probably town, but the bulletproof vigilante thing is way too op with all the power roles that flipped. Lol, what the shit you dumbass, can't you see that they're really two SK's who figured each other out, then the bastard mod allowed them to PM each other. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:45 Palmar wrote: Lol, what the shit you dumbass, can't you see that they're really two SK's who figured each other out, then the bastard mod allowed them to PM each other. Not a fucking chance you moron, is your theory really based on assuming the mod is a bastard mod? What the hell? I don't even know why we're discussing this, ON or Kita should be up for scrutinity. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:46 Palmar wrote: Not a fucking chance you moron, is your theory really based on assuming the mod is a bastard mod? What the hell? I don't even know why we're discussing this, ON or Kita should be up for scrutinity. But what if they're both mafia? I know it seems like a stretch seeing as Palmar's been pushing for iGrok's lynch since day 2, shouting at people they're morons for not voting him. but maybe it's an elaborate plan. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:47 Palmar wrote: But what if they're both mafia? I know it seems like a stretch seeing as Palmar's been pushing for iGrok's lynch since day 2, shouting at people they're morons for not voting him. but maybe it's an elaborate plan. You're a fucking moron. It's seems like it's a stretch because IT IS a stretch. Can we just drop the issue now? Chaoser isn't killing town at the moment, and Palmar has actually gotten a mafia lynched, that's more than rest of the players in the game can say. Occam's razor says Kita is mafia, ON feels quite scummy and I'm pretty sure Pyo is not scum, so even if somewhat flawed his argument is legit. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:49 Palmar wrote: You're a fucking moron. It's seems like it's a stretch because IT IS a stretch. Can we just drop the issue now? Chaoser isn't killing town at the moment, and Palmar has actually gotten a mafia lynched, that's more than rest of the players in the game can say. Occam's razor says Kita is mafia, ON feels quite scummy and I'm pretty sure Pyo is not scum, so even if somewhat flawed his argument is legit. Shut up, I'm now ignoring everything you say. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:49 Palmar wrote: Shut up, I'm now ignoring everything you say. ditto. | ||
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On September 26 2011 23:47 kitaman27 wrote: ...Are you talking to yourself Palmar? Or just trolling -_- If that's a post restriction, it screams Gollum. Who did you track tonight? | ||
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Kita needs to claim all his tracking targets and what actions they performed. ##Vote Kitaman27 | ||
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On September 27 2011 00:00 kitaman27 wrote: ##Vote Kitaman27 Oh look, he's going fishing for blues! I've already confirmed that I'm a tracker by claiming that chaoser killed someone. I see little reason to essentially role claim for a player who didn't kill anyone, unless they are about to be lynched. [/QUOTE] Well here is a thing. If it was day 2, and you actually looked like a townie, I would never ask you. But it's day 4, you put in some ridiculous restrictions on iGrok instead of just wanting to lynch him on day 2. And excuse me, but you're a veteran, and I can't believe you'd be so incredibly dumb as to let him live on day 2, and then try it AGAIN on day 3 without being scum. I just think you're smarter than that. Newbies are excused because they don't realize how ridiculous the claim is, and they don't know me/syllo/sandroba well enough to just assume that when we all agree that we're right. Greymist - newbie chaoser - SK (he's not this stupid as town, and his claim makes no sense) Radfield - Scum Drazerk - newbie raynpelikoneet - newbie jcarlsoniv - ???? (but to be fair he thought I was scum because I trolled him) TranceStorm - newbie OriginalName - ???? kitaman - ???? You see. there are two names on this list of people who should really not have fallen for this bullshit, it's you and ON. Now, let's start easy, since that can't hurt. List all the players you have tracked so far in the game. Don't tell us if they had a night action or not, just list them. | ||
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On September 27 2011 00:13 Palmar wrote: Well here is a thing. If it was day 2, and you actually looked like a townie, I would never ask you. But it's day 4, you put in some ridiculous restrictions on iGrok instead of just wanting to lynch him on day 2. And excuse me, but you're a veteran, and I can't believe you'd be so incredibly dumb as to let him live on day 2, and then try it AGAIN on day 3 without being scum. I just think you're smarter than that. Newbies are excused because they don't realize how ridiculous the claim is, and they don't know me/syllo/sandroba well enough to just assume that when we all agree that we're right. Greymist - newbie chaoser - SK (he's not this stupid as town, and his claim makes no sense) Radfield - Scum Drazerk - newbie raynpelikoneet - newbie jcarlsoniv - ???? (but to be fair he thought I was scum because I trolled him) TranceStorm - newbie OriginalName - ???? kitaman - ???? You see. there are two names on this list of people who should really not have fallen for this bullshit, it's you and ON. Now, let's start easy, since that can't hurt. List all the players you have tracked so far in the game. Don't tell us if they had a night action or not, just list them. | ||
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On September 27 2011 01:11 Drazerk wrote: ##vote: Palmar We're not letting another scum claim third party and troll their way to victory. town (psst... where did I claim gollum?) | ||
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On September 27 2011 01:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote: ##Vote Palmar I've been doing it the last two days and he hasn't given me much reason to stop now. Will provide an argument at some point when I find the time to write it up tomorrow. Scum | ||
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On September 27 2011 05:47 Pyo wrote: Palmar, raynpelikoneet, you both said you agreed with my analysis on ON, yet your votes don't seem to agree with it. What's up with that? You guys just want to say that agreed with it in case he's vigi'd, but don't want to lend weight to the lynch? Cause I feel more strongly about kitafail | ||
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Kitaman has yet to say what people he tracked. There is absolutely no harm in saying whom he tracked, as he can choose not to reveal if they performed any action or not. | ||
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On September 27 2011 22:04 kitaman27 wrote: Now that you're around, wanna explain that Gollum sequence you had? Or are you going to pretend it never happened. I posted some shit because I was bored. I also figured it might cause mafia to jump it and try to paint me as 3rd party. You do realize the entire mafia team hardly does the killings? So you can't actually clear people. You need to die. | ||
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But it's pretty obvious now that you're scum, because you're grasping at straws trying to make my logical conclusions seem like slips. I have no idea why I haven't been shot yet, probably because I didn't really pay attention on day 1 and then proceeded to troll the thread for a while, maybe the scum team likes the fact that I attract stupid townies? Maybe you just explain to me why I haven't been shot? Was it not enough that I tunneled iGrok since day 2? I don't really care anymore. The difference between you and me is that I have actually been trying to hang scum, you've been trying to save your buddy since day 2. If you're town, you're terrible. I don't think you're terrible, I think you're good at this. | ||
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On September 27 2011 22:32 jcarlsoniv wrote: Palmar, do you think it's likely that a town aligned medic would be left alive 2 days after he claimed? (Drazerk) I think it's not out of the question. There is a distinct possibility he is scum, like it's actually likely enough for him to be hanged at some point. But I think killing Kitamanananananana should be priority. | ||
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##Vote kitaman27 | ||
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I'm 100% he's scum | ||
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On September 28 2011 00:00 kitaman27 wrote: Are you kidding me? Palmar repeating it 100 times doesn't make it true. Don't let them push an awful mislynch like this. I'm claiming mafia, Kita is my scumbuddy, he'st been mean to me in the QT, let's lynch him. | ||
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On September 28 2011 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: And don't worry, i won't let anyone lead me to think who should or shouldn't be lynched. I've learned my lesson in day 2 already. lesson from day 2 should be "Just do whatever Palmar tells you". | ||
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Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum. | ||
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Kitaman (Mafia) Chaoser (SK) obviously we should just kill kitaman, as chaoser can be lynched as soon as he has a bad shot. | ||
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On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? When I say shit, you listen. Drazerk is clear, Kita is scum. | ||
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I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman. | ||
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On September 28 2011 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched. yeah whatever. This is fucking terrible, the entire game has consisted of bad town decisions because they're afraid of being wrong. Just trust me, I'm awesome at this. Kitaman is scum. Drazerk isn't. Whatever, this is stupid. I'm off, enjoy fucking failing again town. | ||
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I can do all of the following every night: Role check Murder someone Alignment check Medic protection Force a modkill Murder someone I'm masoned with myself, meaning I can PM myself. I role checked chaoser, he's an SK, his true identity is Lord Vader. I murdered purplehaze I alignment checked kita, he's scum I didn't medic protect anyone because I'm an asshole I couldn't force more modkills, Curu said enough already. I murdered purplehaze again for good measure. I told myself how awesome I am. So kita is scum! | ||
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@rayn, because it pains me to see you fail so hard after having some decent posts: Drazerk is basically modconfirmed medic. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11544417 <-- read this post and the next 5 after it. Now stop it, let's kill kita. | ||
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On September 28 2011 02:43 jcarlsoniv wrote: If you read Palmar's filter, the vast majority of his posts have been trolling. We've all been ignoring a lot of what he's saying just because he's been super annoying the whole game. He's been openly trolling the whole time. WHAT ABOUT IT BITCH? | ||
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On September 28 2011 02:47 jcarlsoniv wrote: What about it? You're the only one who's been openly trolling the whole game. And you find it entertaining that mafia is open about trolling. yeah, problem? | ||
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On September 28 2011 02:48 kitaman27 wrote: Just because he might be a medic, doesn't mean he is town aligned. You were on my scum team for both WaW2 and Personality mafia and both games we had a scum medic on our team. I'm suspicious why you would purposely overlook this fact. Hello Kitaman. Look at your post, now back to mine, now back to your post, now back to mine. Sadly, you're post isn't mine, but if you pulled your head out of the ass and just admitted scum, you could at least be right like me. Look down, back up, where are you? You're not under any suspicion and your posts make sense like mine. What's in your hand? I know it, it's a gun that you've used to murder townies throughout the game. Look again, the gun is now a diamond. Anything is possible when you post like me and not scum. I'm one a horse. | ||
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On September 28 2011 04:39 Pyo wrote: I liked day 1 and day 2 Palmar better than the "usual" Palmar who has returned for day 4. Palmar, you did not get iGrok lynched. GGQ had more to do with getting Palmar lynched than you did. Stop saying that. Additionally, iGrok was hardcore bussed starting at least before day 2. One thing I've learned thanks to Curu in the last mafia game is that when someone is saying something stupid or wrong, over and over again despite being told otherwise multiple times, they're scum. So stop saying that you are confirmed town; you're not. In fact, how about this? Let's go ahead and confirm your alignment. ##vote: Palmar PS... I haven't forgotten about ON. Yeah, town deserves to lose this. | ||
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On September 28 2011 05:55 Drazerk wrote: I still think SS was hit by third party over mafia until a vigilante owns up to hitting me I think stabbed through the chest is mafia flavor. Also, Drazerk. I'm not scum, now vote for kitaman27. | ||
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On September 28 2011 06:13 TranceStorm wrote: I'm under the opinion that mafia are not among our top candidates. For example, I am still extra suspicious of Cyber_Cheese because of his vote for OriginalName and because of his "I'd rather lynch chaoser than iGrok" comments. I think people are putting a little too much faith into the fact that mafia were bussing iGrok. Remember that Radfield led a last-minute effort on day 2 to pull the lynch off of iGrok and onto Jackal. No, we definitely have mafia. kitaman27 is scum. The problem is, how much intelligence do we have on the town side? Because only people who are capable of minimum thinking can see how clearly kitaman27 is scum. I don't really have much faith seeing how many people let iGrok slide on day 1. I mean we're stuck with people like pyo on town side, I don't think he has ever accused scum in any game I've played with him. It's obivous, his claim and attack on chaoser was basically mafia trying to stall the iGrok lynch for another day. Thankfully people showed some ability to look at things objectively. I know it's hard to expect something like that to happen again.... One can always hope. I honestly hope that a lot of town players go back when this game is done and re-read it in it's entirety. Because I haven't even paid that much attention to it, yet mafia is glaringly obvious. | ||
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On September 28 2011 06:25 kitaman27 wrote: Greymist. I honestly think you are the only person in the thread that doesn't think chaoser is a serial killer. Are you still willing to reason or is this a lost cause? This is only your 3rd-4th game, so I'm not sure if you are just unaware about how unlikely his claim is or what. In the history of team liquid mafia, there has never been a town aligned bulletproof compulsive vigilante. This role would be beyond broken for town. Even if every single one of us were vanilla town and we had 1 bulletproof compulsive vigilante, the setup would still be town favored. In there history of teamliquid mafia, there are only a handful of town aligned players who ever ever been bulletproof. You only see them in PYP games and the occassion theme game. In the history of teamliquid mafia, there have only been a handful of town aligned compulsive vigilantes. It is absolutely impossible to take two of the strongest possible roles and combining them. How can you say he is not attacking threats to himself? He has been trying to get my lynched all day long. No one actually cares that he's an SK. We're lynching scum, you are a subset of scum. Are you the roleblocker? | ||
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On September 28 2011 06:27 Pyo wrote: If Kitman is scum, then he somehow knew that you were the one responsible for radfield, which makes you scum. Alternatively, kitman is telling the truth, which means you're telling the truth which makes him town and you 3rd party or town. Either way, I don't see a scenario where we should lynch kitaman before you. However given the fact that Palmar's been a scummy troll, ON has all but disappeared and GGQ also has all but disappeared, I'd say there were 3 lynch targets better than either of you. This town has been one big huge sheepfest, and it needs to stop. No, what needs to stop is you talking. | ||
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On September 28 2011 06:32 kitaman27 wrote: You said just a few hours ago that you were fine with lynching the SK. You and chaoser have been buddy, buddy the entire game. How could I be the roleblocker when I've already confirmed myself as a tracker... mafia can share information, alternatively you guys shot chaoser and gambled him being SK. I'm fine with lynching the SK, but that's not an option now, 1h30 minutes until the lynch and he has what... 1 vote? | ||
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On September 28 2011 07:11 heist wrote: I think you and I are in the same boat, contrary to the confidence Palmar has. difference between me and you is that I'm right. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:04 kitaman27 wrote: No help to you, who conveiently disappeared after I confirmed myself. Same with jcarl and pyo. oh ok, I don't actually give a shit lol, I'm 3rd party. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:07 Drazerk wrote: Chaoser shoot Palmar tonight please... of course he's gonna. btw, if I die, you must lynch chaoser immediately. If you don't, you'll lose the game. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:08 Drazerk wrote: In fact Mafia shoot Palmar tonight please screw you, I'm allying with mafia. I'm murdering a townie with my 2kp kill, that's how prplhz died, rofl. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:09 chaoser wrote: LOL what a lie. you killed two good townies for nothing. so what! But it's still true. In fact, mafia, if you roleblock this guy I'll kill a townie and keep killing townies, cause I'm your friend. If you don't he'll have to be lynched if I die. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:09 kitaman27 wrote: lol has the third party faction just achieved victory or something? o.O no, I'm gollum. I have to survive till the end of the game, I have a kp, and I only win if by the end of the game I'm in possession of the ring. So, town can hardly afford lynching me, but mafia likes my KP, so I'm just gonna ally with mafia. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:11 kitaman27 wrote: What stops the town from just lynching your tomorrow? they have to lynch mafia to lower kp to 1! | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:12 kitaman27 wrote: What extra power did you get for obtaining the ring? let's just say you should probably not visit me tonight lol | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:13 GreYMisT wrote: Yea I posted while he was posting that. How can we not afford to lynch you tomorrow if you are killing us? And in fact, how do you know you will be killing townies? lol | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:23 kitaman27 wrote: chaoser, what happens when you obtain the ring for killing Palmar? suffice to say, you should lynch him after that. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:27 kitaman27 wrote: How come I have a feeling you guys share a joint victory and are just trolling us until the day post comes -_- nah. chaoser will kill me tonight, nothing I can do to stop that. he will gain the ring. shit sucks. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:28 chaoser wrote: I got two active abilities: 1) I kill someone 2) I check a votelist to see if anyone in it has the ring I also have the passive ability of being bulletproof if you're bulletproof I'll murder curu, because I have the same abilities, but I'm not bulletproof. also, you're probably not bulletproof. | ||
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I genuinely thought kita was scum though. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote: What doesn't make sense, is why would you claim right now if you knew chaoser would just shoot you? not like he didn't already know... I had the post restriction of arguing with myself. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:32 chaoser wrote: You got 2 KP, I only have the one. I actually did get shot day one and I didn't die so you can take that for what you want. I don't have 2 kp btw, I lied about that. | ||
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On September 28 2011 08:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: You know what's fun Palmar? Scum will be more than happy to kill you because then they will get the Ring. Awesome... nah, why do you think I got the ring and not the other party that killed prplhz? if 2 people kill a ringbearer, the neutral party gets the ring. town doesn't deserve winning this game, so I hope mafia just shoots town, if you kill rayn the last townie who's not bad is dead. | ||
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some stunningly bad performance from townies rofl. | ||
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On September 28 2011 09:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hey, I would love to have someone around I can definitely trust. I just don't like people saying I should trust them with no real reason to do so. This is largely why I have been against Palmar this whole game. you don't have to trust me... you have exactly the same information as me, I was trying to help. not my problem you're being thick. | ||
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I'm seriously speechless over how bad this town is. | ||
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On September 28 2011 16:21 heist wrote: I'll take a chunk of the blame. My activity was sporadic and my reads were pretty off. But let's kill Palmar for sure tonight, shall we? well duh... chaoser needs the ring for his win condition. | ||
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On September 29 2011 04:10 kitaman27 wrote: @chaoser/Palmar Why did you guys choose to shoot radfield/sandroba on night two, if your win condition was to obtain the ring? figure it out yourself. | ||
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remember to lynch chaoser. | ||
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Did you guys shoot me? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Sorry for being a dick. I had to be enough of a dick for mafia to not shoot me. Good luck! I'm totally cheering for town even though you guys suck! GG! My precious! | ||
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On October 10 2011 10:22 Curu wrote: (sorry for the half assed post but I can't miss Falcons vs Packers!) could've at least mentioned my glorious win. And the eagles lost fucking again so I don't give a shit about football now. | ||
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On October 11 2011 11:21 heist wrote: Don't worry. I shall never trust a claim again. I don't believe you. | ||
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