I think it was already asked and answered, that medic and his target get notified if the target was hit.

What I'm curious about the way Drazerk said it: "Curu just confirmed that prp was hit twice". Why wouldn't he say "I blocked a hit on prp, though he still died, that must've been a double hit".

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 11:32 GMT

#1962

And the kill message "was strangled" is nearly 100% Gollums. That would make sense. Or could you think of "was put to sword" for Gollum.

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 11:45 GMT

#1963

On September 26 2011 08:29 Curu wrote:
A message has been delivered to all within the realm!

The message reads:

There is a third party scum team who have yet to lose a member.

Also, this. If these messages really are from mafia as i believe, they want us to think there is a 3rd party TEAM, which i don't see probable. Yes, there definetly is Gollum out there who strangles people and might even have the ring now that frodo is dead.

Mafias reasoning for this message could be to distract us. If anyone hits a 3rd party, town would still think there is another out there. So be curious about this one.

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 13:23 GMT

#1968

Now listen to this guy above.

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 13:24 GMT

#1969

I meant Pyo.... :D

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 14:07 GMT

#1971

On September 26 2011 22:20 kitaman27 wrote:

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You've got to be kidding me.

Me: Yo chaoser, you killed a dude last night.
chaoser: Yep
Palmar: lol lynch kita, he's lying

How does this make sense at all? Do you think I just magically guessed it? The only other possible explanation would be that I was somehow in contact with chaoser and knew that he was shooting, which is most certainly not true.

Town needs to wake up because we are far closer to LyLo than it may seem. With the four kp last night, the lynch, and chaoser's SK kp there is the chance of up six deaths per cycle. To win, town needs to kill the 2-3 remaining scum, chaoser the Serial Killer, and possibly a third party Gollum. That's 4-5 more correct lynches/shots that we still need to go through in order to reach the town win condition. With only 9-10 town currently remaining, we can't afford to mislynch.

Now, what do we know about chaoser? He claimed Boromir. He shot mafia. He was RB last night (or lying). That makes his certainly not mafia right?

Then Palmar claimed Faramir. So here are following scenarios:
chaoser SK / Palmar town given the claims they made i don't think this would be possible
chaoser SK / Palmar mafia why would mafia protect SK?
chaoser SK / Palmar SK (working together) could be, altough i still believe boromir&faramir are both in the game, and not as safeclaims
chaoser town / Palmar mafia no need to Palmar fakeclaim and defend chaoser
chaoser town / Palmar town most likely answer
chaoser town / Palmar SK could be, altough i don't see a reason for Palmar to fakeclaim, again

If chaoser was in fact mafia, they would need to have an extremely brave strategy in bussing/killing nearly all their teammates, and it would all fall apart just if ppl didn't believe chaoser in a first place.

Also, kitaman you could be some kinda mafia stalker role.

Also, i think you are wise enough to figure out chaosers requirements for killing. If I'm right about it, it fits into his claim fairly well.

BTW. Who did you check last night and what's the result?

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 14:22 GMT

#1972

And Pyo's analysis was pretty good. Also, what most people seem to miss is ON:s comment on him being Saruman. He said:

On September 24 2011 10:28 OriginalName wrote:
Also look how he claims that he checked the only person to really recieve any attention at all when he posts it.

His check is bullshit, his kill is a mafia kill, there is no reason to suspect somebody who has already probably lied, sure he abides by his so called "claim" but what reason do we have to believe it. In my eyes iGrok is completely scum regardless of team or otherwise and has to go today.

Lying or not its one less KP in the game.

iGrok wasn't necessarily lying?

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 14:37 GMT

#1974

Actually we have 2 medics, if Drazerk is not a mafia medic.

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 14:40 GMT

#1975

I find your argument about balance reasonable. However i don't see why there would be Boromir & Faramir - one as real role, and one as fakeclaim. That would be so confusing. It only makes sense to me if they are both real or fakeclaims.

So what do you think about Palmar backing up chaoser then?

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 14:46 GMT

#1979

Also he didn't claim comp vig, given the "certain requirements".

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 14:52 GMT

#1986

I'd vote GGQ for gollum, just becouse of his "i'm not saying anything useful this game besides i want to lynch iGrok".

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 23:07 GMT

#2030

And i actually want to hear Drazerk's response. Why is everyone still saying Errandor was lying. I have told you 100 times he didn't lie, Drazerk DID however lie. And he's done it multiple times.

Also with all these (town) powerroles able to kill @ night/day, it would imo seem reasonable, if mafia had a medic too (drazerk fits prettuy well into that). Given that if he (as he said) was actually hit last night, there is another medic too.

raynpelikoneet

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September 26 2011 23:13 GMT

#2031

On September 27 2011 05:47 Pyo wrote:
Palmar, raynpelikoneet, you both said you agreed with my analysis on ON, yet your votes don't seem to agree with it. What's up with that? You guys just want to say that agreed with it in case he's vigi'd, but don't want to lend weight to the lynch?

And specially for this question. I think ON might very well be scum, but i'm even more sure about Drazerk, at least as long as he doens't care to explain.

raynpelikoneet

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September 27 2011 14:51 GMT

#2077

Okay people, now i will explain to you why Drazerk is SCUM. These are his actions throughout the game in a nutshell:

Day 1.

On September 19 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:

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That was my whole reason for voting for him originally and the reason Ill probably vote for him tomorrow.

WBG won't be lynched today but hopefully he will be shot tonight or lynched tomorrow.

He accepts DrH's reasoning to vote WBG, which is a pretty shitty reasoning.

On September 20 2011 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Told you WBG was lying about his golum claim >.<

Wasn't it obvious?

Night 1.

- He protects iGrok, given that if hes a town medic, he wouldn't know he was mafia, but I can't see from townmedic perspective, how iGrok was the best target to protect.

Day 2.

- iGrok claims BALROG.
- After the claim Drazerk starts leaving clues about him being a medic.
- Drazerk claims hes a medic and that he protected iGrok, when syllo hit him. Why in the hell should you claim you're a medic when a confirmed 3rd party/scum claims?
- Drazerg defends iGrok, then votes for Jackal just to "consolidate votes" (i know, also many other ppl did that).

On September 22 2011 03:53 Drazerk wrote:
##vote: Palmar

Best choice right now in my opinion.

Busses his team mate but doesn't keep with it.

One of the first votes on the errandor bandwagon.

Largely useless day 1.

- Bussed his teammate, or he was trying to lead a lynch on scum! Also he kept with it.
- How is "one of the first votes on anyone" more scummy than the people who follow?

Night 2.
- Drazerk fails to protect anyone

Day 3.
- Drazerk claims RB.
- Drazerk claims he protects prplhz next night

Day 4.
- Drazerk claims he protected prplhz and chaoser
- If Drazerk is town, why in the hell would mafia go for a kill towards prplhz?? and not RB Drazerk. (Gollum i can understand, becouse i could think of his kill being unblockable by anyone but Sam, who is dead)
- Drazerk's other target was chaoser. Why the hell would you protect a 3rd party?? chaoser also claimed that he's bulletproof. If you think he's town, why the hell would you protect a fucking bulletproof guy?

Conclusion. Drazerk really protected iGrok over night 1. Drazerk lied about finding out roleblocker (what ability is this on a medic ffs??). Amazingly, he's RB the night he should find the roleblocker. Lying.. Then he protects the guy who still died (and most likely was double hitted), and a bulletproof guy.

Either scum or useless. I'm leaning heavily towards scum. If you can find more proof against anyone, i'd be glad to hear.

raynpelikoneet

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September 27 2011 14:58 GMT

#2080

On September 27 2011 23:56 Palmar wrote:
raynpeli, just lynch kita today with us, we can murder drazerk tomorrow.

I'm 100% he's scum

I'm heavily leaning towards scum on kita too, so i don't really care which one is on the line today. Let's see what they have to say about these accusations.