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On September 07 2011 01:12 GMarshal wrote: eh, you know what, in the interest of not antagonizing people, I'll include posting restrictions, but will not enforce them, basically if you want to follow them you should feel free, but I don't want anyone to suffer throughout the game because of them. I had completely forgotten about how personality turned out : Neighhhhhh. | ||
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On September 07 2011 02:06 Foolishness wrote: It's always fun to act out your role via a posting restriction for a little bit, but after a while it gets tiring and you just want to focus on the game. Unless you have to post kill Bill Murray and Bill Murray is Kurumi. | ||
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On September 09 2011 19:05 Lucidity wrote: What's the current plan for Day/Night cycle end times? Could you possibly consider making it 22:00 GMT (+00:00) so that Euros (and the African) don't have to stay up until 4am? ????? We have an African????? | ||
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##EVICT: Lucidity | ||
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Hang 'em high | ||
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Butterflies are the coolest thing. | ||
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On September 13 2011 06:42 GreYMisT wrote: Sadly I have to agree with Dream, and echo what she said. We pretty much haw a very long day 1 with no roles or anything but a very general plan to discuss. I have only played with a few of you, but from the games I have read we will do well if we can maintain a good atmosphere, as we have right now. Because we also don't know how many or what type of roles exist, we need to focus on logic and behavioral analysis, rather than hope for power roles to carry us. I think we should process forward assuming no blues exist. This guy's scum | ||
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On September 13 2011 08:10 Lucidity wrote: My thoughts exactly. So is this guy. | ||
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Read it from a town perspective. We all know that already. It's all fluffy puffy feel good bullshit that scum love to post at the beginning of a game. Did you guys know diphallia is a common disorder amongst the sub order Eunectes of constrictors? | ||
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The Day post gives us the name of the Scum boss. It also gives us the "Elements of Harmony" I have never watched this show so I don't know what those things are but I am going to assume they are items. Please enlighten me as to what these elements are. And how many there are. Chaos13 - I'm quite sure Forumite did not understand the basis of you calling me scum. Actually I'm pretty sure I'm the only one in the game that understood it for what it was. A couple of games ago I informed Chaos that every game he does not call me scum on day 1 is due to him being scum. It was a truism that I'm sure he looked back on and realized I was right. I should have never told him that and let him languish in his inability to avoid a day 1 lynch when he's scum.  But that was the reasoning behind his calling me scum. It's all WIFOM now. But it did make me laugh a bit. I will occasionally break into song or go off on a tangent. I'm only here to keep you all happy. And wtf is a rock farm? | ||
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Every lurker discussion I have ever seen has been fruitless and inevitably pointless. Lurkers never get lynched. Everybody claims they want to but nobody ever does. By day 3 or 4 it is to late to get rid of them. Scum love them. They're like a weed bed they can hide in. I would be all for lynching a lurker day 1 and having a vig shoot another night 1. But the reality is it isn't going to happen. | ||
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On September 14 2011 00:33 Nisani201 wrote: We don't intend to lynch the lurkers. We plan to pressure them. And what does that get you? They respond, you unvote them and they return to lurking. Rinse and repeat. Drone All Day doesn't bother me. He's a noob. This game can be intimidating the first couple times you play it. I'm willing to give him a chance to speak up. I'm willing to let him float a day or two until he gets an idea of how things go. Original Name on the other hand needs to die if he doesn't show up. | ||
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On September 14 2011 01:34 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't think LYNCHING them is a good idea. I think lynching them is an excellent idea. I'm also realistic and understand it never fucking happens. And then in 3 days when all the active players are dead we get to listen to you cry, whine and complain about a game full of lurkers. But it's all good man. I plan on being dead by then anyways. | ||
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On September 14 2011 03:54 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah no shit, this genius already managed that one: This is very true. Listen to the voice of reason, AKA greymist: Lurking is a null tell, IMO. If we pursue null tells vigorously through policy lynches of lurkers we're gonna get screwed hard when those lurkers pop town. This is exactly what has ruined some games for us that I've played in. Correct lynches rely on townies establishing themselves as town early on (as in Resurrection) and then pursuing behavioral clues in order to find mafia. We HAVE to lynch mafia based on contradictions and behavior. If behavior lines up with activity and voting patterns, great! If not, then we can't use activity or a lack thereof as a reason to lynch someone. It's just not reliable. wtf is this If active players are making sense then town needs to listen to them, medics need to prot them, etc. etc. If active players are contradicting themselves and being wishy washy then we need to lynch them. Killing lurkers is the job of the vigilantes; they can more clearly determine who is scummy out of a pool of lurkers without having to deal with the shitfest of information that is influenced by both mafia and dumb townies. If we lynch lurkers then we are susceptible to be influenced heavily by scum, and that is EXACTLY what we do not want. Dreamflower are you an oldtimer? nice to meet/play with you.ON's mafia play is really easy to spot, IMO. By his vote post alone I knew he was scum in Resurrection. Until that point, like we see now, he was just another lurker. Finally, I have to disagree about this: We gain next to nothing by lynching a lurker, unless of course that lurker happens to be mafia. Lurkers, by definition, haven't contributed anything. Thus, except in exceptional circumstances, we can't really link them to anyone else, and we can't even be sure about their flip until they die. It's just an unreliable scumhunting method IMO. With your last sentence you can easily replace "townie" with "lurker". What happens when the townie is also a lurker? Then, what's up with you concluding that neither approach can give us much useful information? If you think neither method is good, then wtf do we do? Do we go after behavioral clues, which are easiest to spot among active players, or do we lynch lurkers? I'm not understanding your conclusion, you don't really suggest what we should do. It's exactly what I said. I have no problem with lynching a lurker. I have no problem with a vig shooting a lurker. I have no problem with brooming them on day1/night1/day2. But I also know it isn't going to happen. I'm not advocating the lynch of a lurker over the lynch of an individual that plays scum in such a horrid manner that it's painfully obvious during day 1 he's scum. That rarely happens though. What does happen is some townie makes a stupid case on somebody, scum jumps on board and there ya go we lynched a townie. So ya I'd prefer lynching somebody with one post and nothing else. Because he's gonna get us killed on day 3. | ||
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On September 14 2011 04:35 wherebugsgo wrote: So you want us to lynch into this list: Lurkers
9.) OriginalName 11.) sinani206 If and only if we don't have a more active, scummy target? I don't see a problem with that. If you do please explain it to me. I'm not being a smart ass but I honestly see no problem with one of them if no other viable candidate arises. And as I said before I'm willing to give the noob some latitude. ON and sinani have no excuse for lurking. | ||
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On September 14 2011 04:46 tnkted wrote: Why would you give the noob some lattitude? This is how they learn: they get lynched d1 as town for lurking after they were pressured. Because I still remember my first game. RoL, LSB, Ace, Node, Chaoser, Bumatlarge, Barunder, Beneather, Pandain, and others all pounding each others opinions. I was a bit lost. | ||
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Take a chill pill Curu. We're not even 24 hours in. I've seen sinani play better than he did in Aces game.If he tries it again I have no problem with hanging him. | ||
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On September 14 2011 10:30 sinani206 wrote: Curu, dramatic entrances don't add to your town cred. I'm sorry that I get home from school at 9:00 Eastern. It's not twenty-four hours in and I just got back from school. I really should be doing my homework right now, but I decided to check the game, and apparently I'm a "lurker" now. I live in Los Angeles, so I'm going to post after you East Cost people. Anyway, I don't think we should have backed off of the pressure on Forumite when we started talking about lurkers. We had a lynch candidate before, but now we want to lynch lurkers. What? Lurkers are supposed to be the last priority lynch. ##Vote: dreamflower for even bringing up the subject of lynching a lurker. You have a problem with lynching lurkers? You need a nice warm cozy place to hide? | ||
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On September 14 2011 22:19 chaos13 wrote: No, when I read tnkted's post I agreed with him without actually reading things over again. Then when I did read things over again I realized I still thought you were scum. I think tnkted is scum for other reasons, and I'll leave that alone until tomorrow or another day cause right now it would just be cluttering up the thread. Not a good thing to introduce new suspects this late into a majority lynch. This thread couldn't be any more cluttered than it is right now. I don't follow your logic regarding tnkted and Forumite. tnkted convinces you Forumite isn't scum, then you revisit it and decide they are both scum. But you give us no reason for either of them other than I changed my mind again and I'll tell you later. ##VOTE: Chaos13 Scum play 101 dude. | ||
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##UNVOTE: Chaos13 ##VOTE: sinani206 | ||
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On September 15 2011 08:11 Lucidity wrote: The fact that you think that worries me. Why? | ||
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On September 15 2011 08:22 wherebugsgo wrote: good point, cause this post you made didn't really prove that you're making sense either. Sinani and Nisani are linked at the hip. You have both of them on your watch list. We have 2 or a little more than hours left. We are currently headed towards a non lynch. And you want to switch it? And if you and Curu continue to call every swinging dick in the game names with every post I'm gonna opt out of every game you guys join. If you get this emotionally vested into a text based forum game I would suggest some counseling. | ||
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On September 15 2011 09:01 GMarshal wrote: Last friendly reminder to cut out the name calling. Next one is going to be accompanied by a quick trip to the moon. ^_^ Boob. | ||
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On September 15 2011 09:05 wherebugsgo wrote: I should clarify, there's no real way to tell if they're scum solely based on their links to the other two. I lean scum on Nisani but it has nothing to do with his involvement with Sinani, it has to do with his behavior and the agenda I perceive. I think we should evaluate each of the three like we would any other player, on their own merits. If sinani becomes the lynch today we'll find out enough information to determine whether we should try pursuing a link or not. Think about it, if sinani flips town I don't think we'll really gain anything with respect to those other two. No matter how he flips we have info from the voting. | ||
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The only townie I've ever seen defend every scum player in a game is our gracious host GMarshall. So ya voting patterns do show up. | ||
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On September 15 2011 11:24 Forumite wrote: You sound like you saw that from a mile away. He ctrl+rs Apparently my tail is twitching for reasons "I don't yet understand" Any of you steeped in MLP lore know what this may mean? | ||
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On September 15 2011 11:35 Forumite wrote: It means something bad will happen. One character of the Mane 6, Pinkie Pie, has limited precognition as one of her many abilities, shown by her ears flopping, tail twitching, etc. I think "Tailtwitchy" means something will fall down from somewhere. Thank you. Apparently you and GMarshall watch way to much MLP. | ||
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On September 15 2011 11:40 Nisani201 wrote: Quick question: does a 2-1 trade benefit town or scum? (2 townies die for 1 scum dying) Depends entirely upon the ratio of town to scum. How many scum are there? | ||
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On September 15 2011 23:31 dreamflower wrote: Oh, oops, I missed the exchange between wherebugsgo and Forumite, where Forumite asks him, "Why not switch your vote? Tnkted isn't going to get lynched anyway" and wherebugsgo complies. So, I guess it isn't true that no one was forcing him to vote for sinani. It is still a dramatic shift from saying "I don't think sinani is scum and I'm not gonna vote for him" to "I'm prepared to switch my vote, but I don't think sinani is the best lynch," to "We only have 6 votes on sinani? ##vote sinani" in about as many posts. I guess some of this can be attributed to the frustration of anticipating a no-lynch to happen. But it's still weird that wherebugsgo keeps saying that he thinks sinani isn't Mafia and he's never seen a bandwagon form this quickly for a real Mafia, but jumps on the bandwagon anyway and casts the deciding vote against sinani. Forumite and I both asked him to switch. Bugs did not play scummy. | ||
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Bandwagoning Ludicrous. I was the first vote on Forumite? How is that bandwagoning? As for the "5 wagons" I jumped on (lol?): They are all acting suspicious. I voted for sinani because we need a majority to lynch, and none of the other candidates seemed to be viable options. We barely made majority with only 7 votes on him at deadline. I don't regret my choice. I guess if your wagon had more support behind it we might have lynched scum Day1? I don't understand how you could praise me yesterday and attack me today on the same post. Your case is extremely weak I'm afraid. But it has strengthened the case against you. Scum struggle to see scummy behaviour, which results in analyses such as that above. Your earlier behaviour is consistent with this as well. I'm liking our chances for Day 2 [/QUOTE]I'm not. http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Bridle_Gossip She's an evil enchantress She does evil dances And if you look deep in her eyes She'll put you in trances Then what will she do? She'll mix up an evil brew And she'll gobble you up In a big tasty stew Sooo... WATCH OUT! Don't judge a book by it's cover. Twinkles is 500% guaranteed town. If I die in the next couple of minutes keep him alive. Period. | ||
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On September 16 2011 04:48 Lucidity wrote: Lol. That is quite laughable. Deflecting Attention Er yeah. If you look at the quotes I'm responding to direct questions. I'm not deflecting anything. I simply explained that reading my past games is somewhat of a waste of time, because they were PM games or I was inactive. Try again? Soft FoSes I didn't vote for dreamflower, because I liked Forumite more. dreamflower's posts bugged me so I went through them when I woke up and posted that analysis. I wanted to hear her explanation. Some of her response was plausible, but I still think she thinks from a scum POV. Her problem with WBG's Hammer just strengthened my opinion. I don't agree with any of her opinions so far; she seems to have a scum mindset imo. As for the snide remark about Curu? Really? Bandwagoning Ludicrous. I was the first vote on Forumite? How is that bandwagoning? As for the "5 wagons" I jumped on (lol?): They are all acting suspicious. I voted for sinani because we need a majority to lynch, and none of the other candidates seemed to be viable options. We barely made majority with only 7 votes on him at deadline. I don't regret my choice. I guess if your wagon had more support behind it we might have lynched scum Day1? I don't understand how you could praise me yesterday and attack me today on the same post. Your case is extremely weak I'm afraid. But it has strengthened the case against you. Scum struggle to see scummy behaviour, which results in analyses such as that above. Your earlier behaviour is consistent with this as well. I'm liking our chances for Day 2 http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Bridle_Gossip She's an evil enchantress She does evil dances And if you look deep in her eyes She'll put you in trances Then what will she do? She'll mix up an evil brew And she'll gobble you up In a big tasty stew Sooo... WATCH OUT! Don't judge a book by it's cover. Twinkles is 500% guaranteed town. If I die in the next couple of minutes keep him alive. Period. | ||
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On September 16 2011 23:35 Nisani201 wrote: ##Vote: tnkted Why? ?????? | ||
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On September 17 2011 01:16 wherebugsgo wrote: What is this? Are you saying tnkted is town? I won't believe this until I have adequate reason to, as for now I still think tnkted is mafia. Nisani is acting pretty weird too, he hasn't said anything about tnkted really but insta voted him after the day post with no reasoning. Anyway, I won't be around for the next 12-16 hours or so. Today is Friday and all my HW is due (plus I have like five classes) so I won't be free until tonight around 8 pm PST or so. I'll be back then to see how the thread has gone. Till then, the best lynch, IMO, is tntked. ##vote tnkted Because he did something incredibly stupid. He got lucky but it was still stupid. (Sorry twinkles) If you feel compelled to lynch me to verify my alignment I'm ok with that. But you do so under the condition that you guys keep twinkles alive. He's 500% guaranteed town. | ||
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Activity level here is disappointing. I have no list of strong suspects atm. I believe there are some others in this game that understand my claim regarding tnkted. That understanding does not necessarily mean they're town though. I am going out for the evening shortly. I probably won't be back on until tomorrow morning. I will attempt to answer any questions directed at me then. | ||
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On September 17 2011 11:25 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah, that's the last bit. They've "claimed" but it's not clear at all. If you're going to claim as town (and draw mafia attention) you might as well claim in full. Only they and the mafia right now know their alignment, and that's not really helping the rest of us. Scum really hate when two townies know they are both townies don't you? Scum really hate when townies have knowledge that is denied to scum don't you? PM abilities in a non PM game are great. As I said before if you guys feel compelled to lynch me to verify my alignment I'm ok with that. But keep your dick beaters off of Twinkles. Sorry Curu. I didn't realize you were running LOTR when I posted that. My vote is going on Bugs. If you're town you can trust me or lynch me. But you damn sure aren't getting all the details. ##VOTE: wherebugsgo | ||
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Tnkted thought he was going to die. And with that thought in mind did something no scum would ever do. Sorry but for now that's all you're getting. | ||
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On September 17 2011 14:38 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't have PM ability, but I think I understand what's going on. Let's be...honest about it. I have been completely honest. All you need to know right now is tnkted is town. | ||
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On September 17 2011 19:54 Lucidity wrote: Could you explain why you voted wherebugsgo please? Simple. I stated that you guys were more than welcome to lynch me to verify my alignment. Bugs isn't happy with that answer. He needs the details of what went on between myself and tnkted. I will not disclose that info. He hates that idea. The sole purpose of my original post was to save a townie from lynch. He hates that idea. A tnkted lynch would have been very easy today. That's why. When I was first told I could PM tnkted I was also suspicious of him. However he did something that I cannot attribute to scum. Ever. If he is actually scum his own team needs to kill him because he fucked them hard. I believe it was in XXXLVI where I made a similar post to save LSBs derpy ass from lynch. It worked and town won. The only difference here is when I first called Twinkles town I had no other alternative lynch candidate like I did in that game. Oh and I can no longer PM tnkted. That window closed when tnkted did what he did. | ||
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On September 18 2011 01:47 Lucidity wrote: So your plan to save a townie is to ... sacrifice yourself ... a townie ... ? Not exactly. My plan is to give you guys a confirmed townie. Right now I know tnkted and I are both town. You guys don't. Confirmed townies are scums worst nightmare. I will gladly sacrifice myself to fuck over scum. I will gladly put myself up for a hit by scum. Why do you have issues with this? | ||
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On September 18 2011 02:27 Lucidity wrote: Why do you expect people to take you at your word? I want to know as much as possible about your motivations so that I can form opinions. My motivation is a town win. What's yours? I don't expect people to take me for my word. I have stated repeatedly that town may feel free to lynch me to verify my alignment and tnkted's. First Bugs wants to know things I've already said I won't share and now you do. I've never said anybody must take me at my word. But you two seem to be awfully bothered by me. | ||
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On September 18 2011 02:46 Lucidity wrote: You do Jackal, whether you say so or not. Anyone who has questioned your claim you have viewed as suspect. As a townie I'm always suspicious of people who believe me too easily. You seem to be doing the opposite. Somehow someone being "bothered" by your claim is worrying you? You don't claim your role or tnkted's. You are not willing to divulge any information other than that you somehow KNOW tnkted is town. Then it surfaces that you THINK he's town due to something he said... In what world does that confirm someone. Why are you so certain that scum can't just kill your confirmed townie at night? It wasn't anything he "said" it was something he "did". I won't divulge that right now. I'm not viewing you as suspect for questioning me. I'm viewing people as suspect that need to know what he did. That's the difference. If you don't trust me lynch me. But don't ask me to divulge the details of what happened. | ||
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On September 18 2011 02:49 Sevryn wrote: The problem is if we lynch you and your town. We have to hope a medic which we are not sure exists protects tnkted and otherwise tnkted will be killed by mafia. We have to decide if we believe your claim or lynch you today because although your death confirms tnkted his doesnt confirm yours. That is correct. The medic part isn't though. If I'm going to be lynched I can make anybody I choose a medic before I die. And you will know who it is. | ||
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On September 18 2011 03:06 Lucidity wrote: If we lynch you and you do flip some kind of blue, that still leaves us with a "confirmed townie" that's only confirmed because you say so. What if what he "did" is some kind of mafia mechanic or risky/bad scum play. We'll have no way of assessing the merits of his confirmation. And if he is town scum can just kill him at night if we don't have a medic or if the medic derps around. My tail was twitching. This apparently means an object is about to fall on us. It did. Half to me. Half to Twinkles. Each half is useless by itself. We were allowed to PM each other. I suggested to tnkted we both keep our separate halves until we can identify a person as being confirmed town. Then pass them to him/her. He agreed. Later he feared he was about to die. So rather than have the item rng'ed he gave it to me. So now I have it in it's entirety. It is a single item now. If tnkted were scum he would have passed it to a scum buddy. No way would he have gave it to me. If I were scum tnkted would be dead right now so he couldn't talk about it. But that's not proof I'm not scum. That's WIFOM. My flip is proof I'm not scum. And tnkted is confirmed townie. No way in hell would scum give it up. And no I'm not telling what it does nor who currently has it. | ||
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On September 18 2011 03:47 GreYMisT wrote: Jackal, what do you feel is the best course of action? lynch you to confirm tntked? because we need to get to scumhunting as soon as possible. I would say in the short term you guys need to decide which is more beneficial - lynching me or letting me live. You guys have to make that call. I can't do it for you. If you believe there is a higher probability that I'm lying scum than ballsy townie you must lynch me. If you do lynch me you're agreeing that tnkted is guaranteed town and will do all you can to keep him alive for as long as you can. If anybody brings him up as a lynch target lynch the hell out of the person suggesting it. I think the best course of action is to wait for everybody to weigh in. We have over 24 hour remaining. I think? GMarshal - How much time is left in the day? I want opinions from Dreamflower and Forumite. I also want more from Curu. He has posted something about WBG and that's about it. | ||
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Forumite - Are you in a PM circle with Nisani? Cause right now I'm inclined to lynch the shit out of him. | ||
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On September 18 2011 11:51 Curu wrote: Yeah cat's out of the bag, I want to lynch Forumite today. Give me a bit to explain but let me put it down before he comes to the same realization of what's about to happen. ##Vote Forumite Explain sooner rather than later. And from what I understand from GM the items are rng'd upon your death. | ||
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I want tnkted to confirm he has received the shards though before I vote. Oh and ##UNVOTE: WBG for the moment any ways. | ||
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On September 19 2011 04:41 Forumite wrote: Lucidity, why would WBG give up a piece of harmony if he´s scum? Because we would have lynched him if he didn't. Same as we would have lynched you if you didn't. | ||
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However according to GMarshall the items become more powerful as they are combined even if they have expended their 1 use power. | ||
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On September 19 2011 05:00 GMarshal wrote: Now looking for one replacement. For who may I ask? On September 19 2011 05:00 Forumite wrote: Noone knew that I and WBG had a piece each. If he was scum, why did he reveal the existance of his piece at all? Good point. | ||
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Sevryn, Curu and Cyber_Cheese need some love though. ##VOTE: Sevryn | ||
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On September 19 2011 06:51 tnkted wrote: What were your thoughts about my plan to combine the items? Already sent it to you. | ||
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The same scenario being painted on Lucidity and WBG. Except he's disappeared. So have Curu and Cyber Cheese. And WBG is a bit of an obnoxious turd at times. He's been that way in every game I've played with him. It's not a scum tell. It's an ass tell. | ||
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On September 19 2011 06:58 Lucidity wrote: Because it didn't match up with the N1 claims of tnkted and Jackal. I refuse to believe that he forgot when he got the item. It is inconceivable. Jackal, how is Sevryn the best candidate? I cannot imagine that all 4 people who have elements are pro-town. Of those 4, Forumite and WBG have been acting the scummiest. There are more than 4 shards in play. There are 6 elements. That makes 12 pieces if GMarshall split them all in half. 2 day 1, 2 night 1, 2 day 2, see where I'm going? | ||
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On September 19 2011 07:08 tnkted wrote: btw, just got loyalty back, I'm immune to a night kill. Do you want it back, jackal, or should I hold onto it and protect you tonight? Do what you feel is best. If you're immune and can protect do that. If not don't tell me what you do. I'll know either way. | ||
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On September 19 2011 07:10 Lucidity wrote: He had no choice but to give up his piece at that point. I didn't notice that he only said it was Day 1 after Nisani confirmed your claim. That makes it even more scummy. The point isn't that he gave it up. The point is he claimed he had it. Ballsy move if he's scum. Plus scum lost a chance at the item. So I'm thinking there are some held by scum and they aren't telling us. I'm also thinking scum are mad as hell at GMarshall right now. Especially if all 4 of us are indeed confirmed townies. | ||
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On September 19 2011 07:14 tnkted wrote: No, you're not following me. What I'm saying is that since they both had pieces it doesn't make sense for them to lie about the time they got them. Lucidity, buddy, I want you to convince me since you are acting so town right now. I agree with you that it's incredible that WBG and forumite got their shit d1 and that WBG forgot when he got his piece, but I can't wrap my head around the fact that there is ZERO reason for them to have lied. And @ Jackal: if there are really 12 pieces in the game, then that means everybody but lucidity got one, which means that when siani and chaos died their pieces were RNG'd which means two people got an extra shard, which means that they should claim so. Not necessarily. They apparently weren't all released at the same time. Might not all be in play yet. | ||
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On September 19 2011 07:17 Forumite wrote: Ah, missed that, I thought he said he got it D2. So he got his piece when I got mine, not later on D2 when Chaos13 died. Changing to fit what looks best, that´s bad. The lack of breadcrumbing would work if he got his D2, but I would think he´d at least try to get the attention of someone if he got it D1. Could it have been a gambit to lure out an element, perhaps trick me into giving him my piece? Entirely possible. I'm inclined to believe him for the moment though. Unfortunately not everybody has posted today. So we don't know if anybody else took a hit other than Chaos13. At least nobody has claimed one. Nor a roleblock. I find it hard to believe scum do not have a rb ability with these items in the game. If scum only have 1 kp we can afford to sit on WBG for a day. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:07 Lucidity wrote: Erm? And nice work on the false dilemma. The alternative is LYNCHING SCUM IN WBG. Not a no lynch. And riddle me this: Why did WBG vote for both you and Jackal at a stage that he claims he believed you were town? Please read the part of my analysis on WBG that deals with you and the claims at least. And comment on it. Why am I more scummy than WBG? Everyone that votes for me needs to state this clearly so that we can find the scum on me after I die. @Everyone: I haven't played with tnkted before. Is he considered a good player? He's like me. Much better on day 3 than day 1. But unlike me he's also insane. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8520723 So who all is still here and how much time do we have left? | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:33 Lucidity wrote: Ok I need to go to sleep now. If I end up being lynched it should be easy to find the scum on me. tnkted has refused to respond to my defense of his analysis on me. He has called me "very town" but still thinks I should be lynched. If he is considered a good player, his play has been very bad this game. Since Day 2 I have operated under the assumption that he was just a derping townie, but if he is actually pushing an agenda and I get lynched I don't think we should discount the possibility that he gambited by giving his element to Jackal. If Forumite ends up on my lynch he is easily scum. Please look at my posts regarding him in the early game and chaos' case against him. Since Night 1 Forumite has only posted Fluff and talked about the elements. His only attempt at scum hunting was an extremely weak case against me. He has now stated that he doesn't believe I'm scum anymore so that's self explanatory... I guess WBG will just put his vote wherever he can avoid his own death. DONT LET A NO LYNCH OCCUR. Even if that means I have to die. At least we find scum if I die. Jackal, why are you diverting the lynch away from WBG to Sevryn? You didn't even provide a case on him. That's really troubling me. I had thought you were very town before you did that. If a no lynch occurs because Jackal pushed a Lurker lynch make sure to look in to him more thoroughly. I have no problem with putting my vote back on WBG. I want to know if we can still get a lynch. ##UNVOTE: ##VOTE: wherebugsgo | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote: and wtf I'm now unsure about tnkted and Jackal too. If this is a scum gambit it's a fucking good one, cause tnkted is voting me when I fucking gave him a piece. Are you stupid or are you scum? Would you please refrain from this? If I want to listen to somebody call others stupid all night I'll go watch tv with my wife. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:57 GreYMisT wrote: I know how to solve this mess of a day we have created. ## Unvote ## Vote Jackal58 You said earlier that you are ok with us killing you to confirm the alignment of tntked. I feel that is nessesary now more than ever. I forget the game, but we know that you have done crazy scum gambits before, like when you bussed jee jee day1ish. So far all analysis we have done today is WIFOM assuming that you and tntked are confirmed town. Looking back I now realize it is imperitave that we confirm tntked, the holder of the items. Or has your opinion changed jackal? are you no longer ok with supplying us with a 500% confirmed town at your expense? Nope. Have not changed a thing. If my lynch helps to secure a town victory I'm all for it. Of Forumite, WBG, and Lucidity at least 1 is definitely scum if not 2 of them. I personally see it as most likely 1 atm. If WBG flips town I don't know yet which of the other two is going to flip scum but one of them will. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:37 Forumite wrote: Greymist, I think it was the other way around, tnkted gave his piece to Jackal. He did. My original suggestion to tnkted was we both keep our pieces until we had a confirmed townie to give them to. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:39 GreYMisT wrote: You are right, tntked gave his piece to Jackal who then gave the completed piece to tntked. This completely eliminates the 3rd possibility in my eyes, however the 1st and 2nd are still viable options. If we were both scum you would know nothing about the item at all. I would have it and we'd be lynching tnkted today. Ya I'm a boss like that. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:00 wherebugsgo wrote: Why would we want to lynch a lurker right now? You think he's more likely to be scum? What would you do? I mean if you were scum. Say all 5 of us posting now are town. Would you post anything? | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:22 GreYMisT wrote: EBWOP: the phrase under Nisani201's qoute is supposed to read: Long before you confirmed things for us... If Nisani is scum so is Forumite. Damn you Curu. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:29 wherebugsgo wrote: Let's lynch Nisani then and find out. He's been lurking, we all have scum reads on him, and obviously I'm not comfortable getting lynched cause I'm town. Nisani then is the only logical choice because clearly it's between me and Lucidity and you guys think Lucidity could be town too. There aren't enough votes. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote: There are 5 on me, and then mine. Not enough votes? One of them is Nisani. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:44 Forumite wrote: I´m the only one left who can vote on WBG, right? The only one that appears to be online and active. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:46 Forumite wrote: Jackal, has the exchange between me and WBG made him look more or less scummy to you? Less. | ||
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On September 19 2011 10:48 Forumite wrote: And you still want to lynch to confirm him? Nope. I'm waiting another 5 minutes or so in the hopes that others show up. I'd rather lynch Nisani. That's where my vote is most likely going to go. How do you feel about a Nisani lynch. Other than it most likely won't happen. Are you willing to vote for him? | ||
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What ponies are you guys? I'm Pinky Pie. But I think you all knew that. | ||
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On September 19 2011 11:03 GreYMisT wrote: Right, I remember now. Thats my favorite of the main 6. but we went over that already. What is your thought behind having us do this jackal? The answer to that is in the thread already. | ||
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On September 20 2011 06:05 Lucidity wrote: If anyone is to blame for the no-lynch, it is Jackal, Forumite and greymist. There is AT LEAST one scum in there. Don't forget it. If you feel compelled to blame somebody I'll take the blame. I'll share it with the 5 people that never posted, posted little, or posted once yesterday and never came back. Sevryn, Nisani, Curu, Cyber_Cheese, dreamflower Your absence in the last half hour didn't help either. There were 4 of us posting at the end of the day. With those numbers there were two possible lynch candidates. Bugs and Nisani. Forumite said he wouldn't vote Nisani and none of us were comfy with a Bugs lynch. If you need to blame somebody and put a name on it sure blame me. Wtf did you want us to do? | ||
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On September 20 2011 01:39 Nisani201 wrote: Ok, what the fuck? How did we get a no-lynch? I'm on my iPod right now so I can't navigate as quickly, but I am putting big FoS on the outliers. Obviously scum wants a no-lynch. The outliers (of which you are one) were freaking useless. | ||
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On September 20 2011 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote: Let's cross out dreamflower, she's gonna get modkilled. Unless she shows up and starts posting we can just pretend that player just doesn't exist. Going on what we know, Nisani is the best lynch. I'm strongly convinced Jackal is town, Forumite is town, and Lucidity/tnkted are prob town IMO. That leaves Nisani Sevryn Curu Cyber_Cheese. I'll bet our scumteam is very likely to be in that list. Let's start with Nisani and pressure the others into talking today. I'm waiting to hear from "Curu the missing" about the QT convo before I start calling people out. He voted for Forumite "for reasons he'd explain" and never fucking came back. | ||
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On September 20 2011 08:59 Curu wrote: Yes I did. The post is there somewhere. I sure don't see it. I see you getting pissy about proving to Forumite you were in the QT but you never explained why you thought he was scum. While you're here (Unless you're going away for another 30 hours) did Forumite mention getting a strange PM in the QT? | ||
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That was a joke Bugs. | ||
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Did anybody take a hit? Did anybody get role blocked? | ||
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On September 20 2011 11:19 wherebugsgo wrote: Well Greymist flipped town. Real convenient for you, eh? Why are you defending Nisani so hard? You seem to be going on about him coming out to defend you as if that matters. I've already gone over why it still makes sense for Nisani to do all of those things. Plus, he hasn't scum hunted at all. His opinions have been absolutely worthless. He just spreads the blame while lurking and going under the radar constantly. Then, he contradicted himself by saying that he "only blames me" for the no lynch yesterday despite clearly saying merely two posts earlier that he suspected all the outliers (or basically whoever was not present for the lynch) I'm beginning to suspect that you're so hard to convince because you're scumbuddies, and you also soft FoSed me with nisani when you thought my mistake was "malicious." At this point it's unclear to me which of you, Curu, and Lucidity are mafia but I am incredibly sure about Nisani. Additionally it would make sense if all three of you, Curu, and Nisani are scum and just fabricating this whole QT business because then it would make perfect sense. GM is not going to make a QT with 3 townies. Curu is trying to gain towncred too. This whole thing is a total mess, and you know what? Partly it's my fault. I've played horribly this game and I'll own up to that fact. I let Nisani slip through by lurking without pushing him hard enough. Hopefully today we can do the proper thing and banish his evil pony flank. ##vote Nisani201 You're doing it wrong. ##VOTE: Forumite | ||
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Lucidity - Would you please explain you desire to have me lynched? We still have over 24 hours remaining don't we? | ||
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On September 21 2011 11:40 tnkted wrote: hi i actually just got back from my class thing. Jackal, did you ever receive those items? I haven't had a confirmation from GM yet. A ham and cheese sammich and a beer. You're a doll snookums. | ||
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On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote: No you guys are wrong. I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone. That's a lie. ##UNVOTE: ##VOTE: Nisani201. | ||
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On September 21 2011 22:55 Erandorr wrote: I dont exactly get what is going on here, why is that a lie and what is the element of honesty? I currently am holding the elements of Honesty and Loyalty. Honesty gives the holder the power to do a name check on another player.tnkted used that power. Now it enhances the power of other elements. | ||
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1 When did you get your item? 2 Is it a complete item or a shard? | ||
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Lucidity Kindness shard Forumite Honesty shard Cyber_Cheese Jackal58 Loyalty shard Nisani201 Generosity Curu tnkted Loyalty shard wherebugsgo Honesty shard What do you guys see? ##UNVOTE ##VOTE: Cyber_Cheese | ||
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On September 22 2011 01:58 Lucidity wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Curu I don't mind lynching either Jackal or Forumite or Curu today. None of them have been hunting scum. They all have the ability to do it, but they're not. Curu only appears when his name is mentioned. Jackal is 100% hiding in the element mess. I thought you were really good on Day 3? HeHE. Forumite should have been the one to die on Day 1. Jackal and Forumite forced the no lynch. STOP PUSHING FOR THE LYNCH OF DERPING MISTAKES. We should NOT lynch Nisani for claiming honesty. That would have been the most retarded scum gambit in the history of this game. Honesty was already claimed. Nisani actually HAS a stone. Explain the scumgenda here? Curu send me your element of kindness. And what do you want me to look at. Since I posted day 2 regarding what tnkted did with his shard every post in this entire game consists of people screaming NO YOU!!!!! Bugs vs Nisani, Forumite vs Cure, You vs everybody else. The only difference I have seen between any of you is the 3 that didn't claim anything. Now Curu has. Do I believe him? I don't fucking know yet. Forumite, WBG, and tnkted all passed on their pieces. Currently awaiting to see if Nisani did the same. I don't see that as scum play. Other than the items Cyber_Cheese has given jack shit to this game. He's posting regularly in LOTR but nothing here. That's where my vote is going and that's where it is staying. | ||
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On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote: If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town. And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp. @Everyone: State your opinions on FORUMITE JACKAL CURU You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch? Because everyone of you just scream NO YOU at each other? Because I haven't said this guy is definitely scum, lynch him? Who would you like me to pick? Any case I make on anybody is going to be based entirely on WIFOM and derp factors. And I can make that case on everybody remaining in the game. That's the fucking problem. I keep thinking you want me lynched because you know tnkted and I may very well have broken the game. I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item. I keep thinking Forumite is scum for spending the entirety of Night 0 talking about me and next to nothing else. I keep thinking Cyber_Cheese is scum because he's lurking hardcore and babbling when he does post. I keep thinking Nisani is scum because nobody can be that freaking inept. I keep thinking Curu is scum because of the way he bussed Sinani. I keep thinking Erandorr is scum because I was pretty sure Sevryn was. I can also look at all your posts and think to myself "That's a townie move" I am going to join with Bugs though. I wanted a Nisani lynch over Bugs on day 2. We didn't have enough people active to pull it off though. ##UNVOTE: ##VOTE: Nisani210 | ||
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On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote: That was @Forumite. ERM? I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3? I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum. I don't think you're town. If you were you would see how next to fucking impossible it is in this derp fest. | ||
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On September 22 2011 05:27 Curu wrote: Oh my god. Ok, what really tipped me off from Forumite was that he posted in the QT something along the lines of "Nisani post in the thread and confirm me as a CMC, it will take some pressure off me." Not a Townie. Kill the scum. WBG after him (or before, whatever, they're scum together). I've been waiting 2 fucking days for you to answer this fucking question. Lucidity- Blow it out your wazoo. I'm not participating in your No You - NO YOU derpathon. Sorry. ##UNVOTE: Nisani201 ##VOTE: Forumite Items sent tnkted. Let us know what happens. If it's appropriate to do so. | ||
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On September 22 2011 05:48 Curu wrote: I'm boss Town. Delivering Forumite to you on a silver platter. You're extremely frustrating is what you are. Nisani and Forumite both posted cmc stuff without dying. Nisani can you confirm what Curu has posted? | ||
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On September 22 2011 08:09 Lucidity wrote: And -ff means forfeit. Not even close. | ||
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Because he was tunneling Nisani so hard I figured that would be the only way that Nisani could prove to him that he was holding something. Lynching Forumite helps tells me info on two others. Nisani and Curu. If Forumite flips red Nisani is almost guaranteed to be red as well. If Forumiite flips town Curu is almost guaranteed to be red. That's why. Lynching Bugs just tells me what Bugs is. Other than his incessant tunneling of Nisani I don't see any connections to others. | ||
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