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On September 04 2011 15:16 supersoft wrote:
pyo isn't a good target. His claim was pretty stange, but i don't think scum would claim like that.
He wasn't under pressure at that time. However it's correct, that his voting behaviour and his checks don't make any sense...
hmm
scum distancing himself from my lynch now that he knows it's going to happen. Mafia's gonna win this game. gg.
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On September 04 2011 19:06 xtfftc wrote:Just pick one of your suspects and do a more in-depth analysis. If you are town, you ought to help us catch the mafia. + Show Spoiler +On August 13 2011 08:24 GMarshal wrote:
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
Have you not read the thread, or are you just selectively ignoring anything that would stop you from saying stupid shit? Look, there's nothing left for me to say, believe me if you want, lynch me if you don't. I almost don't care anymore. As far as I can tell, the only way town wins TL mafia games is if scum is eliminated before the competent players get eliminated. Town hasn't lynched a single scum target not previously confirmed by a blue read with the possible exception of Mig. The only ones contributing at this point are xtffftc who can't/won't read, curu who can't/won't read, and two other dudes that are probably scum.
I mean WTF is this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=256518¤tpage=11#216
Navillus has been lurking and ninja voting all game and now he's ninja voting someone who's already dead. I give up - my bad for claiming at a point where it was 2 mislynches to game over.
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On September 04 2011 22:47 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +Now I have gone over some stuff and first off I don't think that Pyo is scum, look at his stuff at the beginning of the game, he seems pretty suspicious of mig even attacking him when palmar tries to defend him and calls both mig and BB scummy which just seems too dangerous for him to be scum to me. By call out BB and Mig do you mean this post? Show nested quote +I'll start by saying that foolishness made a very convincing post about BB. At this point I'm leaning toward BB and Mig both being scum. DB flipping kind of lends him credence - doesn't mean he's necessarily right, but at least he's not trying to fool anyone. Cause that's not calling them out. He even backtracks on what he's saying. "Foolishness had a good post on BB, and he's probably town, but that doesn't mean he's right." He never calls anyone out, never gives us any of his own analysis, and always votes by following others. Aside from his vote on mig, which could have just been bussing since at that point (Day 3) mig was pretty much going to be lynched (Foolishness and I were hardcore pushing for it by then), he really hasn't done anything "pro-town". Add in his claim and I'm 90% sure he's mafia.
And we have another person who either can't read or is choosing not to... and my vote on mig was bussing? given that it was the 5th of the 14 required to lynch him? Right. You are so obviously scum, it's too bad no one here is willing to pay any attention to it.
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On September 04 2011 22:56 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 22:47 chaoser wrote:Now I have gone over some stuff and first off I don't think that Pyo is scum, look at his stuff at the beginning of the game, he seems pretty suspicious of mig even attacking him when palmar tries to defend him and calls both mig and BB scummy which just seems too dangerous for him to be scum to me. By call out BB and Mig do you mean this post? I'll start by saying that foolishness made a very convincing post about BB. At this point I'm leaning toward BB and Mig both being scum. DB flipping kind of lends him credence - doesn't mean he's necessarily right, but at least he's not trying to fool anyone. Cause that's not calling them out. He even backtracks on what he's saying. "Foolishness had a good post on BB, and he's probably town, but that doesn't mean he's right." He never calls anyone out, never gives us any of his own analysis, and always votes by following others. Aside from his vote on mig, which could have just been bussing since at that point (Day 3) mig was pretty much going to be lynched (Foolishness and I were hardcore pushing for it by then), he really hasn't done anything "pro-town". Add in his claim and I'm 90% sure he's mafia. And we have another person who either can't read or is choosing not to... and my vote on mig was bussing? given that it was the 5th of the 14 required to lynch him? Right. You are so obviously scum, it's too bad no one here is willing to pay any attention to it.
Like how can you even say that my votes have just been following along? Are you serious? Any also why did you check Kurumi night 4? I had claimed early enough in the night that you could have checked me. Why not confirm that I was telling the truth about my role knowing that they couldn't roleblock us both? Well it's pretty obvious, you're scum.
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On September 05 2011 01:44 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 01:23 Navillus wrote:
So was chaoser ever confirmed as DT and if so how? I'm looking through stuff but I can't find it and I'm seeing very little discussion on what seems like it would have been a rather important claim. I was never confirmed as a DT because the only real way to be 100% confirmed is to die. My "confirmation" only comes from the fact that 1) I pushed for mig's lynch from day 1 2) foolishness said he read through every one of my past games and thought I was town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174¤tpage=50#1000and 3) My play so far has been "pro-town". Barundar caught wherebugsgo's last post and I reasoned and then argued with a few people that it's best to lynch bum because that gives us info on vain. (Vain btw is probably confirmed if you trust my check on him since I checked him, got red, and bum visited/framed him.)
Look back through chaoser's posts. He says he pushed for Mig's lynch from day 1, but did he really now?
Here's the list of all of his posts.
His "push for Mig's lynch" wasn't until day 3 when several people were after Mig. In fact day 1 and 2 he was merely going along with Foolishness and provided no analysis of Mig to speak of.
day 1 posts regarding Mig:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10988862 (going along with foolishness)
day 2 posts regarding Mig:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11013124 (going along with foolishness)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=11018099
That's it from you as far as Mig is concerned. That's perfectly consistent with you and Mig distancing yourselves from each other.
Oh and don't forget this one:
On August 23 2011 12:33 chaoser wrote:
@mig, the only reason I'm not 100% all over your ass right now is because no one is coming to defend you at all which strikes me as odd and a bit doubtful of myself. I will continue to think on the matter
Gee, I wonder why no one was coming to defend him, maybe scum had decided to bus him perhaps?
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On September 05 2011 11:58 RayzorFlash wrote:
3 modkills... At least it'll be an interesting day post, even though there wasnt a lynch... We fell one vote short, xtfftc being the last one to switch from Pyo over to me causing a no lynch
WTF xt, I havent thought you were scummy since any point after day 2, but this makes me reconsider it
If he hadn't the game would be over if mafia used both their KP... 3 modkills means we're in LyLo so we can't afford to lynch me now - we also can't afford to no lynch. After tonight it will be 4 - 3, so if there are any traitors present at all (who will likely push for a no-lynch), it's game over. The only hope is for mafia to kill off said traitors. *crosses fingers*
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On September 05 2011 14:45 Curu wrote:
Wow what
THE
HELL
Are you kidding me?
Oh look Pyo posts fishing for the Traitor to claim the night before lylo.
On September 05 2011 14:47 RayzorFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2011 13:27 Pyo wrote:
If he hadn't the game would be over if mafia used both their KP... 3 modkills means we're in LyLo so we can't afford to lynch me now - we also can't afford to no lynch. Thats only if you arent scum, lol.
There are so many ban-worthy things I want to write right now... I'm gonna apologize ahead of time if I totally lose it.
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On September 05 2011 16:04 supersoft wrote:
Pyo
Kurumi
xtfftc
Erandorr
Vain
chaoser
supersoft
Curu
________
3 scum against 5 townies -2 nightkills
:-( this looks so grim for us.
are you leaving off RayzorFlash intentionally?
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Nothing's changed since yesterday except that it's crunch time.
##Vote: Chaoser
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On September 06 2011 22:35 Kurumi wrote:
we have 2 dts and we are killing the one which gave us a red lynch?
A false statement. No DT has given anyone anything that has led to the lynch of anyone. Remaining scum:
Chaoser (too many coincidences to be legit, lied about saying he pushed for Mig's lynch, claiming timing was far more ridiculous than mine, yet everyone just ate it up)
Kurumi ("cleared" by chaoser, given how he plays there's no way any reasonable host would make him town no less give him a gun... I hope)
Rayzor is NOT scum. He is a traitor. He is asking us to lynch him because lynching him would secure the win for mafia.
However, the fact that I am not dead and haven't been roleblocked means that scum KNOW THAT I AM NAIVE. The only way for this to happen is if one of the guys I checked revealed my sanity to them.
So far I checked:
jackal
vain
Erandorr
xtffftc
RayzorFlash
and last night supersoft
All checks came back green. The one on the list that hasn't already flipped is Erandorr I still think chaoser is scum, but I realize that the case against him isn't open and shut so I likely won't be able to convince anyone, but the case against Erandorr seems pretty dead on if you'll go out on a limb and believe me.
##Vote: Erandorr
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I'll repeat this in it's own post since it might get overlooked:
RAYZOR IS NOT SCUM. He is a traitor. He is asking us to lynch him because lynching him would secure the win for mafia.
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Calling it now, scum team: kurumi, chaoser, erandorr
Doesn't seem like there's anything else I can do since supersoft has disappeared and curu doesn't want to listen (there's a guy voting for himself... why would you help him out? That's just retarded). With scum controlling 3 votes and rayzor being a traitor, it's already game over... the next (and last) 8 hours are gonna be the most painful - only hope is for Erandorr to get modkilled.
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hmm... lol I totally thought that the game ended today.
If you need any more proof that erandorr is scum:
On September 07 2011 08:29 GMarshal wrote: Day 7 Votecount chaoserRayzorFlashPyoRayzorFlash (5) chaoser RayzorFlash Curu supersoft Kurumi Erandorr(1) Pyo With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. RayzorFlash has a majority with 5 votes.
On September 07 2011 08:42 Erandorr wrote:
##Vote RayzorFlash
If there are 7 alive and 5 votes on rayzor, that means that there's at least 1 vote on Rayzor by a scum. That means that Rayzor can't be an actual scum!!!! Take your votes off of him townies - come on guys even if we're doomed to lose, don't lose because you're flat out retarded... unless there are 3 traitors and GM is just fucking with me, in which case, touché.
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On September 07 2011 11:22 Pyo wrote:hmm... lol I totally thought that the game ended today. If you need any more proof that erandorr is scum: Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 08:29 GMarshal wrote: Day 7 Votecount chaoserRayzorFlashPyoRayzorFlash (5) chaoser RayzorFlash Curu supersoft Kurumi Erandorr(1) Pyo With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch. RayzorFlash has a majority with 5 votes. If there are 7 alive and 5 votes on rayzor, that means that there's at least 1 vote on Rayzor by a scum. That means that Rayzor can't be an actual scum!!!! Take your votes off of him townies - come on guys even if we're doomed to lose, don't lose because you're flat out retarded... unless there are 3 traitors and GM is just fucking with me, in which case, touché.
Correction: if there are 5 votes on rayzor with 7 alive, there's at least 2 votes on Rayzor by scum.
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As I said before scum team is chaoser, kurumi and very likely Erandorr (though i'm willing to entertain the possibility that supersoft is scum). But chaoser was and still is my #1 choice for lynch.
##unvote erandorr
##vote chaoser
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On September 07 2011 12:13 Curu wrote:
The many ways you try to spin Rayzor as not scum is incredible. At least I don't have to think it's chaoser anymore.
Let me explain to you why your reasoning is faulty. It's lylo for Town, not scum. So if the scumteam was going to go try to save Rayzor and try to go for a win today, they would've told the third member to bus Rayzor rather than give up both. Because lynching Rayzor doesn't lose the game for them, it just removes on of their three chances.
Did you even read what you wrote? Are you serious? Your statement is inherently flawed and devoid of logic... You just said, "if scum was going to save Rayzor, they would not save Rayzor." I keep wanting to think that you're scum because it is so hard for me to accept that anyone would say something so ridiculous.
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On September 08 2011 11:09 Curu wrote:
Hey Pyo
You hear them footsteps?
They roarin' like thunder cause we comin' for you
I knew the shit you were saying was too fucking retarded to be town... nobody is that stupid.
I love how blatantly obvious that chaoser's claim was fake was to me once I realized that he could possibly have been fake-claiming. Unfortunately, there was absolutely no way for me to convince anyone of it. Well done to mafia for setting it up, but ultimately it was towns stupidity that won the game for mafia. Town is WAAAYYYY too dependent on blue powers.
Shame on Kurumi and supersoft for actually voting for RayzorFlash on the last day. That was just absolutely retarded.
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Oh and boo to GM for giving Kurumi a gun XD
That should be banned.
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