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On January 15 2012 07:06 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 07:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I wanted to kill C_C to get people OFF of BC because WE HAVE TO CONFIRM HIS ALIGNMENT AND THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE IF HE'S MAYOR!!! I don't know what's so hard to understand about this - C_C was a strategic choice that was thrown off by my misunderstanding my role. The last game I was in had Jacks and I assumed (like a boss) that they were the same. They obviously are not. Protip: If you want to prove someones alignment, lynching someone else rarely if ever helps.
No, but confirming that you're scum and scummily switched to supporting BC would go a long way in getting him NOT elected mayor. But please, continue to patronize me. It's making you seem less scummy every snide post you make.
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Okay guys, just got back from dinner.
Toad, the fact of the matter is that I acted rashly and did NOT check my role. I assumed about the day-kill command. I know you're disappointed about how stupid I am, but the fact of the matter is that it was a really REALLY stupid move on my part. I've endangered myself and weakened town as a result.
But all is not lost. If everyone votes for me for mayor, I can fix what I've screwed up 1 step at a time...starting with flipping CC to show that he's scum, thereby shedding a little light on what kind of person is presently voting for BC. With this information, we'll have a GREAT starting point for tomorrow.
Assuming I'm way off-base and CC is town (lol) then at the VERY least, we can get a DT check on BC which is going to be EXTREMELY helpful in the days to come if/when he masons others in town.
Guys, I implore you - allow me to make up for my retardation. Vote VE for Mayor!
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Hydractinum, what are your thoughts on Cyber_Cheese? I made a case on him a bit ago and his reaction to it was pretty interesting. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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On January 15 2012 10:02 bumatlarge wrote: How to distract Bum101: Post links to other games. Seriously spent 1/2 hour readinf BC's posts in PYP3. That was a fun game.
Glad L is around, I don't think it was too late for anyone to start running for mayor since the votes are fairly spread out. I honestly like where protactinum is coming from with his latest posts, and would like to see BC flip. He has gotten alot of votes from thin air :X, especially after Incog had already given his in depth analysis before most of the votes. Protact's surge of votes seems unsurprising, so I definetly want him in a mayoral position.
@Protact - What will you do if BC becomes sheriff and you become mayor? I'm assuming you'll lynch someone who voted for him, or ciryandor, your previous lynch? Who is macpo lol?
Also, lol at VE. I'm would vote for you bro, if you were close to the leader. I'm assuming you would lynch CC?
Ya dude he's scumtastic. Have you had a chance to take a look? Everyone else is ignoring me because of my dumbassery
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On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!!
Is this nothing? Can someone experienced tell me why this is nothing?
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It seems obvious to me - he plays like obvScum, relies on pussy town to not lynch him, then supports two townies (or 1 for sure) for office in an attempt to draw votes away from them.
It's not even that deep, totally predictable, and falls in line with his horrible scum play.
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WBG calm the fuck down bro. I'm not the problem here. I'm certainly not scum, and I think you know it.
When you say 'all the candidates suck' does that mean you think they're all scum? Or do you just say that because none of them are going to lynch YOUR lynch choice? Be a man, vote for the best candidate and just see what happens.
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Is BC the best candidate?
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Fuck I don't know anything anymore.
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ciry and kita with last-minute votes on BM, I voted for BC
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Well, the plus side is that if he had been checked he would have come back red, so that clears up that confusion tomorrow.
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@GiygaS
I listen to you bro. Remember that game where you and Palmar fucked me up as mafia? His play was spectacular that game...he really convinced me he was a townie when I was calling for his HEAD D2. You played the fallguy to a T, not outting him at all. I was thoroughly impressed, and I'm not the only one. Palmar doesn't do shit like that anymore. When you left, Palmar's play took a SHARP turn for the worse, and he's lucky to live past D2 these days. I thought he was scum all game too...especially when he still vouched for me for office.
I guess my point is, I think you're barking up the wrong tree where WBG is concerned. Here's how you handle that guy.
@WBG Would you link to the most recent game where you were town and Palmar was scum?
@Cyber_Cheese Would you point to a post with content that Palmar made during D1 that wasn't within 30 minutes of the lynch please? Failing that, could you stfu about WBG's meta-only case on Palmar?
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EBWOP: Palmar's SCUM play took a nosedive. His townplay has obviously improved vastly.
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Yeah that's a good post. Carry on I guess. -,-
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P4ndemic also not working last I checked.
@CC I don't find WBG to be very scummy - while he pushed Palmar pretty hard, I agreed that he was scummy so I don't find his tunnel to be particularly damning. In the same vein, I don't fault BC for choosing Palmar, as I knew he would at least consider Palmar as a lynch and that was a deciding factor when I chose last minute to vote for him.
On BM/BC, I still dislike the fact that we can't really confirm BC's alignment...the most I can hope for is that BC masons solely with people who know what he's capable of in PMs and his alignment will be clear, as he's promised, through his play. I was pretty all over the board yesterday on who I would support for mayor. I did vote for BM and supported him for mayor, but switched to WBG solely because I supported a Palmar lynch and that was his platform. I still didn't have a problem with BM as Sheriff then, and I'm glad he got it now. I think he'll make a fine choice. Overall, I think it will be at least D3 before we're really sure on whether it was a good election or not.
I'm going to do a reread overnight and I'll answer your question of who I'm keen on for tomorrow's lynch before daybreak.
Regarding the Double-Lynch. With 48 players, we've got a few days even worst-case...and I don't want to force worst-case by double-lynching without being sure. I'd rather use the DL when we have some kind of confirmed scum that we can lynch in addition to a town-decided scummy lynch. If that happens tomorrow, so be it....in that way, we can make up a day if we end up hitting 2 scum rather than possibly being set back a day risking hitting 2 townies.
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BM I don't think it works like a medic...the person you lock up can't be targeted unless I'm mistaken.
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I've gone back over the thread a bit (not completely, I was more busy todayIRL than I had anticipated to be) and here are my thoughts on tomorrow's lynch.
Lanaia - - as observed by others and I found to be very true upon looking myself, Lanaia has no scum reads. She mentioned liking the idea of lynching Palmar, but she never outright said she thought he was scum and she never said she thought anyone was scum. That's scummy, as we're trying to find scum here. She's also got a lot of excuses for not posting, and she dislikes all the 'fuckery' going on in-thread. Sandroba - - His claim to fame D1 was his very vocal support of the mass mason claim. I think it would have been a good idea, but I also wasn't about to try and force anyone to do anything. Sandroba was though. He also apparently made the Palmar lynch happen with BC out-of-thread (if I'm to understand correctly). Why not put a case forward like WBG? Maybe because WBG was catching flak for 'basing it all on meta?' Because he didn't want to look "scummy" like WBG perhaps? I don't know...because it was decided in private. Foolishness - - playing up his null contributions to this game, claiming he's in danger tonight for fingering mafia D1 (which might be true if he's town, but I'm guessing he's not.) Supported BM vocally and switches support to Mattchew. Remember why?
That's about it. Do with that what you will guys.
I'm gonna miss you. All of you.
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BC do you intend to only mason people who know what you're capable of in PMs? This is important to me for obvious reasons.
What are your thoughts on Foolishness supporting Mattchew for mayor D1? Can you see town Foolishness doing this? There are a plethora of reasons why scum Foolishness could want to do this, but can you think of a reason town Foolishness would?
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I took no action tonight. Just so there are no surprises.
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