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On January 15 2012 12:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 12:27 supersoft wrote:On January 15 2012 12:22 Palmar wrote:On January 15 2012 12:10 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 15 2012 12:07 Palmar wrote:On January 15 2012 12:00 supersoft wrote: VOTE BC GUYS!!! ASAP!!!
inognito shouldn't be mayor!!! macpep or whatever his lynchtarget is called is a horrible kill. Palmar is the one and only good case right now. What's good about it (why am I awake at 3am?) LOL AND HE SHOWS HIS FACE LOLOLOLOL If you're town, you're now degraded to completely useless and terrible. But you're probably scum because no one is this bad. please palmar. Why don't you explain why VE is a good officecandidate in your eyes this game, rather than attacking the person who pointed your uncommon play out. Just look at his posting in the game, he's been active, he's put himself out there, his dayvig failure seems genuine enough to me. The reason he's a good candidate is that he really looks like a townie. And apparently he's less terrible than wherebugsgo.
since when does someone who is "less terrible" belong into office with bg-protect?
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"This will allow our claimed masons to talk to each other, as a group, thus increasing their effectiveness. "
false assumption, plan is therefor useless. Sorry. This plan makes masons completely useles...
(Moreover the execution - even if this makes sense - is nearly impossible)
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On January 16 2012 07:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 07:43 supersoft wrote: "This will allow our claimed masons to talk to each other, as a group, thus increasing their effectiveness. "
false assumption, plan is therefor useless. Sorry. This plan makes masons completely useles...
(Moreover the execution - even if this makes sense - is nearly impossible)
How so? This is a mason circle that can talk to each other for longer than one day, as compared to random masons being able to talk to one player for one day, and never after that. Have you ever played in PM games, and do you know the effectiveness of a mason circle? The point is to bounce ideas off of each other, and create analysis. By talking continuously in PM, the masons should be able to get good reads on each other as well, thus strengthening the power of the circle once they root out any potential scum. Only dumb scum will actually be able to be caught by a town mason in this game by talking to them for one day (especially when they can just ignore the mason and use BC as an excuse), whereas this plan allows us to create a town circle to create analysis. Right now, your post is completely worthless, as it provides zero reasoning for anything you said. Try harder.
pff your plan won't happen. I don't have to try harder. What the hell are you thinking? Do you think it's effective if BC discusses his reads with jitsu?
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I. Nightkills
Okay, I want to talk about the nightkills really quick: Kurumi and Wriggles are good players but not the most valauable ones. However they played a good d1 and established their innocence very well. Kurumis jokes and wriggles odd mason-plan made me put them on my green list. Gigays is someone I didn't even notice so far. Obviously the scumteam decided to kill rather green-looking people than the more obvious choices like foolishness etc.
II. Lynching WBG?
As for wbg as a lynchtarget: He is one of the worst targets I could think of. He was the only person that build a real case on day1. The Palmarlynch was in retrospec a justifiable lynch. I joined WBG there and I think we didn't leave out any important things. Palmars play this game was different and he didn't make any sense. If you want to lynch WBG or me for being wrong you're just dumb.
As long as WBG is making sense and he doesn't defend someone for bad reasons or push a lynch with bad reasons AND as long as he's active as he is right now, we have no reason to lynch him.
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III. Kurumi / Kenpachi
On January 16 2012 23:32 L wrote: I've gotta get to work, but:
1) The filter list on the OP post seems to have vanished. If you guys could get it back up, that would be tits.
2) Short end of the stick is that Kurumi crumbed shooting Kenpachi yesterday and he's still alive. I wanted to wait to see if he'd claim being hit, but he hasn't. Veterans/Medic protected individuals on the town side would have claimed this asap. Kenpachi wasn't jailed, I was roleblocked. Given all of that, the only way I can explain him being alive after Kurumi's flip is that Kurumi's pretty overt crumb was a lie (odd, given that kurumi WAS a vig), or that Kenpachi is the mafia jack, or was saved by the mafia jack.
So uh, Kenpachi's my lynch vote for the day.
okay, that's something we can work with.
On January 15 2012 07:06 Kurumi wrote: fml Kenpachi has been marked for death!
At first, I cannot believe how often Kurumi is a vig. He's almost every game I play with him some kind of vig. I bet he asks the hosts to be vig individually :D
Okay, I thought about this situation and I remember a game like 6 months ago where Kurumi was vig and said he wants to shoot me and shot palmar instead (we were both town back then lol). The first moment I read Ls post, I thought it's the same this time. And I do think it possibly is, if noone counterclaims anything. However the current scenario has one difference to the situation back then. In the 6-months-ago game Kurumi claimed vig before. This time he just "marked Kenpachi for death".
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On January 16 2012 23:39 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 18:46 wherebugsgo wrote: anyway, for the world outside of Scamp, I have some pressing questions I want answered while I'm asleep: Jackal58: I agreed with everything you said day 1, which is either really good or really bad. What are your thoughts right now? Who's scum? Sandroba. When he disappears he's scum. He has disappeared.
On January 14 2012 04:26 sandroba wrote: Okay let me address somethings I liked in this thread:
1) Proactinum post is the best one so far. Fuck yes I like it. Cyriandor is my top candidate for lynch if I get elected.
2) Jackal's idea is very good. If I'm elected I'll lynch 1 or 0 bg.
3) I'm seriously considering supporting a mason mass claim day1. Mafia will have to claim it early if they ever want to use it and it gives us good basis for discussion. These big games fall rapidly out of control if we don't keep focus and this will give us something to go by.
So you think he knew that he has no real chance to get into office? Do you furthermore think that scum shot Cyriandor themselves?
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On January 17 2012 00:03 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2012 23:47 supersoft wrote:On January 16 2012 23:39 Jackal58 wrote:On January 16 2012 18:46 wherebugsgo wrote: anyway, for the world outside of Scamp, I have some pressing questions I want answered while I'm asleep: Jackal58: I agreed with everything you said day 1, which is either really good or really bad. What are your thoughts right now? Who's scum? Sandroba. When he disappears he's scum. He has disappeared. On January 14 2012 04:26 sandroba wrote: Okay let me address somethings I liked in this thread:
1) Proactinum post is the best one so far. Fuck yes I like it. Cyriandor is my top candidate for lynch if I get elected.
2) Jackal's idea is very good. If I'm elected I'll lynch 1 or 0 bg.
3) I'm seriously considering supporting a mason mass claim day1. Mafia will have to claim it early if they ever want to use it and it gives us good basis for discussion. These big games fall rapidly out of control if we don't keep focus and this will give us something to go by.
So you think he knew that he has no real chance to get into office? Do you furthermore think that scum shot Cyriandor themselves? I think a vig shot Cyr. Sandroba has no problems with calling out a team mate. He was all over Annul from day 1 on in XXXVIII.
okay right. And what do you think about kurumi/kenpachi? Do you think the vig that shot cyriandor should claim?
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okay. That makes sense. I support your points about sandroba and kenpachi/kurumi.
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btw. I am just thinking about nisani:
On January 14 2012 12:16 Nisani201 wrote: I would recommend against a Palmar lynch. The argument against him is entirely meta-based, and as such should not be used as the basis of an argument.
However I would like to see him post more.
Well you know the point is, if you defend someone, you have to defend him in this individual case and not only say something like that this method of finding scum is bad in general and therefor the case is. I want to hear some personal thoughts.
This makes me believe you're scum nisani. If you know that Palmar is town, you don't need to explain why you think that. From your scumpoint of view it's okay to critisize the methods, because you already know the result.
Someone from a townPOV (there were several people who did that) posts something like: "he's probably lazy" or "has a bad day" you know? Something he experiences himself. Especially a player like you. Where did you make that experience that cases based on meta are bad?
Palmar/syllogism killed Curu last game completely based on meta.
On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote: ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...
Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.
okay, you're pushing your "read" a little bit stronger. I like that "stupid". However you're not sharp enough (can I say that?) in your reasoning.
On January 15 2012 11:13 Nisani201 wrote: It's pointless to scumhunt on D1 with elections because no one is really getting lynched anyways. If he decided to scumhunt with correct reads, that would make him a mafia target anyways.
That's why we should keep an eye on him on D2.
mhm... doesnt make much sense...
On January 15 2012 11:14 Nisani201 wrote: supersoft why did you just quote something from another game? O.o
On January 15 2012 11:24 Nisani201 wrote: WBG have you been reading the thread?
BC, Sandroba, and Ciryandor are much better candidates that have a much better chance of flipping scum than Palmar.
actually I think you're scum nisani. Listing one fellow scumteammember at the last position in a row of three people doesnt make it better. Your defense of palmar isn't really good. You give no reasons. All you say is meta is bad. That's not enough to convince anyone. I think you were trying to gain towncred from that story.
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On January 17 2012 02:07 Chaosquo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 01:58 sandroba wrote: Alright gotta go with GGQ. He is doing his usual scum meta which is popping in from time to time with short messages that don't explain shit. Not only that but most of them is actively spread doubt without trying to gather any support from others on his "beliefs". This is something that makes absolutely no sense from a town player to do, but fits mafia behavior quite nicely. Mafia wants to be ignored while putting in seeds of doubt in peoples head that are hard to trace back to the original source. And that's GGQ's play. He is mafia.
##Vote: GGQ He isnt as disruptive as you want to make us believe he is. He is essentially doing the same thing palmar has done, i.e. shitting on plays that he thinks are bad. That doesnt make him the most pleasant to work with, but still no scum.
I kind of agree with that...
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hahahaha nice find lol. okay
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On January 17 2012 02:28 sandroba wrote: What in the fuck is that post jayjay? That whole wall post doesn't say shit and your conclusion is even more baffling to me. Nice try scum, but you need to make a bit more sense if you want to look good. Huge walls of nothing ain't gonna cut it.
... do you really think he's scum?
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On January 17 2012 02:32 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 02:28 sandroba wrote: What in the fuck is that post jayjay? That whole wall post doesn't say shit and your conclusion is even more baffling to me. Nice try scum, but you need to make a bit more sense if you want to look good. Huge walls of nothing ain't gonna cut it. OMGUS much? if you want to ride, come on and ride. Make a case. I know that there's a lot of requoting in my post. But it is no empty space, because I summed up what all killed players were up to....and draw my conclusions.
to be fair. Your last post doesnt' make much sense. But yesterday you contributed some good, logic stuff. As far as I remember... Now you look like someone jumping on the lynch sandrotrain...
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I favor GGQ over sandroba. But I don't like both right now as lynchtargets... Cannot see anything suspicious about sandrobas play so far.
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On January 17 2012 08:41 Lanaia wrote: Supersoft/BillMurray
Do you guys think a doublelynch is a good idea?
i really dont think so atm. I prefer to use them a little bit later like day3 and day4...
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On January 17 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote: supersoft:
Is Toad scum?
I have an answer already, I want you to help. You being German and all.
mh I am undecided right now. I read through his 8 pages of blabla 3 times now and there is no town or scumtell. I guess I'll come back to him towmorrow, you know...
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re :-/
uh. Is L avaliable?
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I am voting Chaosquo. I like cybercheeses case against him the most. The case against BM is hard to understand for me right now. I propose that we lynch this macpo guy (even if town, he's no real loss/he won't be able to reestablish his innocence even if he's town) and Caosque.
I just read through BMs filter and I don't see it.
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On January 18 2012 11:20 supersoft wrote: I am voting Chaosquo. I like cybercheeses case against him the most. The case against BM is hard to understand for me right now. I propose that we lynch this macpo guy (even if town, he's no real loss/he won't be able to reestablish his innocence even if he's town) and Caosque.
I just read through BMs filter and I don't see it.
Furthermore he's the sherrif and we should direkt his power a few nights long. We chose one target for him an he executes that order. In the worst case, we direct him to jail a - if he's scum - fellow scummember and both fakeclaim that the jailing had happened. If he jails someone else he dies.
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