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On January 24 2012 09:15 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
I meant that if BM flips town, then BC belongs where BM is at on my list because I believe that one of them is scum. So answer me this. If BM is town how does that make BC scummy? Cause I'm pretty sure the safer bet is if BM is scum so is BC. We have no dead bodyguards. If BM is red and BC is green we would have at least one dead one by now if the body guards are town. The only thing with anycertainty I can get out of this lynch is that whatever BM is BC and his body guards are the same.
Because I think they're different alignments based on conversations I've had with BC.
Where do you stand on WBG Jackal, now that you're here and talkative?
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On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
If he is scum, he doesn't want to get the role information wrong, obviously, or it would out him as scum. He doesn't want to give the reports because then everyone will KNOW THAT HE'S SCUM! This isn't that hard.
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong. Because he is freaking scum. You said this point before and it makes ZEEERO sense. If he's a DT he has the full role information, if he's scum he has them too. And he also could provide right reports, because as scum OR DT he has a right report ready. Think a little. I am saying he doesn't really care what people think of him and to me (and may just to me) this is a towntell. Yes. He'd act differently as scum imo. And please be more aggressive.
Wait wait, you're saying that scum have Role information? That's what you're assuming? That scum have everyone's role IN ADDITION to their alignment?
Seriously? This is what you're arguing with me right now? That scum know the roles of everyone in the game, and would never be wrong by faking a DT claim? That would be broken as fuck guy! Scum don't know who are vets and who are DTs and who are masons! What the actual fuck are you talking about?
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On January 24 2012 09:35 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 09:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 24 2012 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
If he is scum, he doesn't want to get the role information wrong, obviously, or it would out him as scum. He doesn't want to give the reports because then everyone will KNOW THAT HE'S SCUM! This isn't that hard.
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong. Because he is freaking scum. You said this point before and it makes ZEEERO sense. If he's a DT he has the full role information, if he's scum he has them too. And he also could provide right reports, because as scum OR DT he has a right report ready. Think a little. I am saying he doesn't really care what people think of him and to me (and may just to me) this is a towntell. Yes. He'd act differently as scum imo. And please be more aggressive. Wait wait, you're saying that scum have Role information? That's what you're assuming? That scum have everyone's role IN ADDITION to their alignment? Seriously? This is what you're arguing with me right now? That scum know the roles of everyone in the game, and would never be wrong by faking a DT claim? That would be broken as fuck guy! Scum don't know who are vets and who are DTs and who are masons! What the actual fuck are you talking about? Oh, I misunderstood you. You were arguing earlier about not telling sandro's role which he obviously knew either way. Now you are refering to the role of the second person. I got that wrong. Sorry chief.
Nono, don't backpedal now guy. Do you think that scum have full role information? Because that's what you said and that's part of your argument against my hypothesis.
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On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong.
This is what you're saying - I said that he wouldn't want to out his reports fully because he's afraid of getting the role wrong and your response was
On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong.
Do you believe that's true or not?
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Answer the question JayJay.
Do you believe that scum have everyone's role information in addition to their alignment or not?
I understand that there was some kind of miscommunication or whatever, but in arguing with me you're saying things that are patently false and misleading, such as "scum have role information and would never get it wrong" and "scum would out his reports for town-cred".
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On January 24 2012 09:29 Jayjay54 wrote:
As scum he HAS the role information and would never get them wrong. Because he is freaking scum. You said this point before and it makes ZEEERO sense. If he's a DT he has the full role information, if he's scum he has them too. And he also could provide right reports, because as scum OR DT he has a right report ready. Think a little.
On January 24 2012 09:52 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Answer the question JayJay.
Do you believe that scum have everyone's role information in addition to their alignment or not?
I understand that there was some kind of miscommunication or whatever, but in arguing with me you're saying things that are patently false and misleading, such as "scum have role information and would never get it wrong" and "scum would out his reports for town-cred". notice how they are two different sentences. they would a) give out sandros role, because they have the information. b) give out a green report with a good chance to succeed with a bluesnipe if it fails. I know that scum has no role informatio on town. but they do on scum obv. My "give out role information" concerned sandro. If I was mafia, I'd give the role, too, in order to get more towncred.... That's all I am saying. /sleep. and please please be more rational and less overaggressive. That doesn't help town whatsoever... and your defense without any accusations gave you another pair of scum points on my list...
JayJay has changed his story, I'm guessing because someone in his IRC channel read the thread and isn't retarded. He said to me that he thought scum had the role information of everyone in town - I don't know why as scum he would do such a thing, because it's false and incredibly stupid...but when I called him out on it, suddenly he was only talking about the report regarding Sandroba, which is NOT what we were initially talking about. Notice in the first quote all the plural instances - it's clear that he's saying that I'm wrong "because scum know the roles of everyone in town, so why wouldn't they out them for town cred?"...except when I called him out on how ludicrous that was, suddenly he was talking about something else...and it's MY fault for misunderstanding too.
When we were talking about this at first, he was trying to discredit my theory. Now he's trying to discredit me personally by repeatedly calling my questioning 'irrational' and 'aggressive'. I'm just trying to get at the correct information here. Go back and see if anything I'm typing is 'irrational'. Aggressive I'll admit to, because this guy has been softly calling me scum all game...now he's acting like I'm some super-town read, but my reaction to his glurio question has "given me scum points"...like, OKAY BUD! I've been on your list all game, what do I care if I got a couple of "scum points" from you? + Show Spoiler +
I'm amending my list to include JayJay on the bottom, unbolded half. Foolishness gets subbed out for his reaction to my accusation re: out-of-thread. We're cool dude.
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On January 24 2012 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
hiro protagonist, WBG, BrownBear, BM, JayJay, risk.nuke
That's where I'm at guys. If BM flips town, BC goes where he's at. Foolish and risk I'm less sure on.
I'll be putting this list on every page that occurs between now and tomorrow morning. So don't bother spamming it out of sight scum, it's useless.
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Actually, did an ISO. I'm amending my list again.
hiro protagonist, WBG, Opz, JayJay, BM, risk.nuke
These are listed in order of my preference of lynch, however if any of these players are up for lynch, it's got my support.
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On January 24 2012 10:40 Bill Murray wrote:
well here goes a mislynch of an elected role
good job sheep
Whatever happened to "I deserve to be lynched, I failed you as a Sheriff"?
Specifically, both of those statements that you made are still technically true if you're town - so why the attitude now?
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On January 24 2012 10:49 p4NDemik wrote:
One lesson we should all take as town from this game - never elect BM for any form of office. christ man. Regardless of your alignment you were the biggest mistake town made thus far this game.
QFT
p4N what are your reads on WBG and JayJay?
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On January 24 2012 11:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 11:18 jaj22 wrote:On January 24 2012 11:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
The bodyguards themselves were not told that they are bodyguards.
Goddamnit, I asked that ages ago  On January 24 2012 07:14 BrownBear wrote:
I should clarify. BM has outed me as a "bodyguard", and in the interest of not lying to town and hopefully cutting a little bit of the craziness out of this mess BM's created, I've decided to tell the truth - I am in fact a BG. I was hesitant at first for obvious reasons, but this is going to get talked to death over the course of the day and waste valuable time, and I just want what I can control to be cleared up, so I'm not "guilty by association" if BM happens to flip red.
Brownbear caught in massive blatant scumslip? Let me elaborate. I did not personally tell the bodyguards that they are. Whether or not flamewheel did, I do not know.
Is this real? What is real?
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On January 24 2012 10:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually, did an ISO. I'm amending my list again.
hiro protagonist, WBG, Opz, JayJay, BM, risk.nuke
These are listed in order of my preference of lynch, however if any of these players are up for lynch, it's got my support.
Also, ##Vote: Double-Lynch
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On January 24 2012 11:39 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 07:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone is spamming my Hiro lynch away. Woe is me.
VisceraEyes is sad-face panda. More like you're spamming the thread away with complete and utter shit. Why don't you come up with cases on the players you keep pushing instead of simply repeating yourself 20 times and contributing nothing to the thread but utter chaos?
SILENCE SCUM!
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On January 24 2012 11:46 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 24 2012 11:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 24 2012 07:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone is spamming my Hiro lynch away. Woe is me.
VisceraEyes is sad-face panda. More like you're spamming the thread away with complete and utter shit. Why don't you come up with cases on the players you keep pushing instead of simply repeating yourself 20 times and contributing nothing to the thread but utter chaos? SILENCE SCUM! your only saving grace is that I feel like you may be right about hiro. However, you're still retarded.
That's cute, scum thinks I'm retarded when I call him scum. Awwwwwww!
No, I'm right about hiro. Prove that I'm wrong about you by doing something...ANYTHING that could be considered pro-town. Generally you're so into finding scum. Where's that fire this game? I'm not seeing it, and you calling me retarded just isn't doin it for me. So yeah, please find scum or shut up and die.
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On January 24 2012 11:50 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 11:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On January 24 2012 11:18 jaj22 wrote:On January 24 2012 11:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
The bodyguards themselves were not told that they are bodyguards.
Goddamnit, I asked that ages ago On January 24 2012 07:14 BrownBear wrote:
I should clarify. BM has outed me as a "bodyguard", and in the interest of not lying to town and hopefully cutting a little bit of the craziness out of this mess BM's created, I've decided to tell the truth - I am in fact a BG. I was hesitant at first for obvious reasons, but this is going to get talked to death over the course of the day and waste valuable time, and I just want what I can control to be cleared up, so I'm not "guilty by association" if BM happens to flip red.
Brownbear caught in massive blatant scumslip? Let me elaborate. I did not personally tell the bodyguards that they are. Whether or not flamewheel did, I do not know. What uh I did.
lol....so BB isn't a TOTAL retard scum...just slow, lazy scum. Good to know...thx FW.
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BC, what's your take on the lynch bro? You're here, let's hear it.
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On January 24 2012 12:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Votes for Bill Murray (11) Second
Macpo
Toadesstern
rgTheSchworz
Jackal58
GiygaS
Munk-E
EchelonTee
Nisani201
Mr. Wiggles
Ciryandor
kitaman27
lul
the rest of the names don't look particularly good either. Maybe at least one more red in there.
If that's the case, I'd say either Jackal or Toad....leaning Toad. What's your guess?
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On January 24 2012 12:13 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 12:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Props to BM for earning himself an extra day of life and causing a mislynch with his silly claim :p
It should be noted that if mafia doesn't have a roleblocker, it is very likely the rb was on hiro, if he is indeed our dt. Err by rb, I mean sheriff jail.
He claimed Roleblocked - I'd imagine it would come back as 'you were incarcerated' or something if he were jailed...Lanaia should be able to clear that up though.
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On January 24 2012 12:12 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 12:10 Jitsu wrote:On January 24 2012 12:07 Toadesstern wrote:
LOOL Nervous giggle. you haven't given me a single reason why you think I am mafia, same goes for wbg. VE thinks I'm mafia because I did not believe his claim because of that random pattern+ I did not know you can't RB vets, which was a huge deal for me because that explains why mafia did not RB him. But yeah sure, lynch the guy who lynched macpo, made everyone voted Sandroba and lynched BM.
Toad, my vet life could be RB'd if I'm reading the OP properly - RBs can't block PASSIVE abilities, like a Vet life, but a JACK vet-life is an active ability if I'm reading it correctly.
But I'm not sure if you're scum or just desperate for peer approval. I'm leaning the latter though.
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On January 24 2012 12:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
Oh throw Lanaia in there too, simply because BM jailed her.
I actually feel Lanaia is more likely to be town because of it, and if OpZ flips scum she's almost guaranteed to be town, but I just want to be safe. We have plenty of time to lynch through people, and so we should be working through people like this, IMO:
OpZ and BB tomorrow
Two of Echelon/vader/Hiro/Lanaia if one of those flips town.
You're town because of that post. Tomorrow's lynch is dead-on, I think my followup would be similar, but hiro would be first followed by Kenpachi and (:O) BC.
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