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On August 09 2011 06:59 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 06:54 tnkted wrote:
Yeah Gm, how do you know? *Checks watch and looks at wiggle's chair* Oh, crap, time to roleclaim, I'm Qatol the God of the Mafia Forum, I know the exact setup before everyone does and can play despite not being on the player list (why do you think it filled out at 29, rather than the traditional 30?) EDIT: I just skimmed the front page looking for the word "serial killer", I blame the sleep deprivation, I wasn't being *deliberately* stupid...
Watch out though...he has the power to dayvig people who put a 'u' after the 'Q' in his name...
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Palmar, you're going a little overboard bra. Breathe. 
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On August 12 2011 00:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Palmar, you're going a little overboard bra. Breathe. You're probably scum
Of course I am. What's funny is that I've been scum maybe once on this site, yet you think I'm scum every game. Your scumdar is immaculate bro.
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On August 12 2011 06:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 05:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 12 2011 00:37 Palmar wrote:On August 11 2011 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Palmar, you're going a little overboard bra. Breathe. You're probably scum Of course I am. What's funny is that I've been scum maybe once on this site, yet you think I'm scum every game. Your scumdar is immaculate bro. lol, my scumdar on you is just fine: snmm2 - you were town, I was scum PTP - you were town, I thought you were scum CCM - you were town, I thought you were town RTM - you were scum, I thought you were scum AA - you were scum, I thought you were scum snmm5 - you were town, I was scum and said you were scum So that means I read you right 3 out of 4 times I was actually trying to scumhunt.
Meh
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omg, I'm giggling at my desk and drawing strange looks from my coworkers because of ^ this post.
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Okay confirmed. This should be...interesting.
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WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO NO LYNCH! THIS IS RIDICULOUSLY IMPORTANT!!!
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M'kay...big game, filter button. This should be a breeze. Tunneling the shit out of Palmar should be a CINCH now. :D
On August 13 2011 21:12 Palmar wrote:
hey
deconduo makes sense, so he's probably scum.
...I was only joking, but DAMN dude!
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I also don't like Kurumi's spastic posting, but from what I understand that's just Kurumi. Do you think if we just ignore him he'll go away?
Looks like we're in for a pretty uneventful d1. Until more people post, there isn't much to say.
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Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
PEdit
Kav wtf?
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Jackal and Kurumi are boring me. Wiggles is right...let's start fishing for activity from the inactives.
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You guys are so cute, all trying to measure your penises by role-claiming. I'd do the same, but...nah. Luckily you guys are all doing it all for me, so I can rest easy knowing how my role compares with yours. Hopefully you'll forgive my NOT being forthcoming with information that if made public will ultimately benefit Mafia more than it will benefit town (if it benefits town at all.)
After reading through the thread, the following generalizations can be made regarding this game so far:
1) It's hard to find anyone scumhunting at all. It's happening, but you have to really look close.
2) The spam is ridiculous, and I'm not just talking about the pictures and bullshit. The fact that we're still all wondering if Kurumi is Bill Murray IN THREAD is....well, it's fucking retarded. He either is or isn't, and no one is listening to him, so if you think he's a VI don't vote for him and if you think he's scum then do. He's not harming town aside from the spam he's causing. Jackal is spamming about killing him too. It's all nonsense and it's not helping us find scum.
3) There are still a lot of people not participating. This is troubling. I don't care how you slice it.
4) Role-playing is fun. So is Mafia.
Now, I'm going to task myself with rereading the thread IN ITS ENTIRETY. This is a colossal task, mainly because all the spam is hard to swallow. When I post again, I'm going to give my thoughts on the people I find most likely to be scum. I'd encourage EVERYONE to do the same. Please keep in mind that I'm not asking you to go through the posts of the ONE person you're trying to get lynched. I'm asking you to reread the WHOLE thread, and post about EVERYONE you think is likely to be scum.
D1 is half over. If the town keeps doing this, we're fucking doomed. I wish I could say tonight was going to be a wake-up call...but peoples' powers are not revealed on death...only their personality and alignment. Tonight is only going to make tomorrow more difficult. I hope everyone realizes this. Scum are going to be able to claim whatever the fuck they want. They already have.
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Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon
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On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda. Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point. I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source. I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned. Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case.
It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious.
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Okay, fair points guys...I hadn't really thought of it that way. The spammy feeling of his posts had me prejudging him. Aidnai looked more like a distraction than an actual suspect, and his behavior HAS been suspicious, I'll freely admit.
I'm convinced. I'll also vote aidnai.
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That looks like Kav was trying to explain something to Deconduo man...not that he was implying that Decon said it.
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Guys, do what you want. I'm not going to come on here and say 'Nuh uh' about all these people saying my posts are scummy. Kavdragon's defense sounded more town than Aidnai's, and I changed my vote accordingly. It wasn't about the path of least resistance, it was about not getting a no-lynch...and Kavdragon's defense sounded better to me.
To be honest, at this point the game is so dreadfully spammed and directionless that getting lynched would almost be a relief, but I'm also not going to just roll over. I'm not sure what's up with Curu's absolute insistence that I'm town (I'll freely admit to a fair amount of lurking and inactivity, so I really don't get where he's coming from,) but he's right...I'm town. I just hope you guys don't bypass good cases to lynch me just because I'm the easiest lynch.
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On August 16 2011 01:47 youngminii wrote:
also VE is scum
lmao
Okay, aidnai taon...booseph.
And it's too early to really call people out for 'not contributing' because it's now night 1 and day 1 has just ended...and from my experience, most of the experienced dudes on this site wait until like day 2 or 3 to say anything of value. Because of this generalization, I'm not really suspicious of the vets who have been mostly silent. So who DO I find suspicious? I have to say that the fact Kav's deep insistence that Aid was scum and subsequent town flip from aidnai IS troubling...mainly because Aidnai and Kavdragon were BOTH Chezinu from every indication...and Aidnai flipped town. And as it was pointed out earlier, the fact that one of them was 'evil' suggests that the other was of an opposing faction. What I'm having trouble with is the fact that the remaining Chezinu has 'regained his sanity'...I don't know what this indicates. Does it mean that the other Chez WAS scum and is now town? Does it indicate that only his post restriction was lifted? Does it indicate that he was actually receiving PMs whispering of Aid's guilt and now those have stopped? I couldn't begin to guess...but I'd have to say that at this point, I'm most suspicious of Kavdragon.
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Okay guys, I've been growing exceedingly suspicious of Curu. He's familiar with my town play, and I have NOT been playing my typical town game this game. Yet he's been defending me HARD all game long. Anytime someone throws ANY suspicion on me, he defends me. It feels to me like someone who's sure of my alignment, and wants me to trust them (for whatever reason.) Obviously, it could be a part of his role (the vehemency of his defense of me stinks of post restriction,) but why me? I have no history with anyone the hosts would have chosen as personalities in this game. My guess? Because as town, I have a tendency to trust anyone who trusts me.
He hasn't done so much as cast suspicion on ANYONE until recently, and even now it's someone who others suspect. I think he might be a good lynch for today guys.
##Vote: Curu
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AND ANYONE WHO ARGUES WITH THIS IS NOT READING THE THREAD AND THEREFOR SUSPICIOUS!!!
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Well, I guess we don't have to worry about anymore nonsense about brown, yes?
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I mean, I get that he was under some kind of posting restriction , but why me is my question. Why would he choose to defend ME as part of his post restriction? One would think he'd choose someone who's A) worth defending i.e. playing pro-town or B) someone more well-known. Surely his role didn't DICTATE who he defended, I have no history with any of the personalities likely to have been chosen for this game.
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Of course I'm not playing pro-town, are you reading the thread? I'm lurking like a bastard and have until now been VERY hesitant to share my suspicions with the rest of town. I mean, I've made a couple of pro-town observations, but even those have been mostly empty and contentless. I don't blame ANYONE who thinks I'm scum at this point...but I'm not.
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And in case noone has noticed, my vote on Curu was strictly to gauge his reaction - I didn't vote in the voting thread. He's seeming more town today than he did yesterday by a longshot.
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I'm curious as to how Node could confirm that I'm Coagulation. Is anyone else curious? I did PM Jackal and Palmar, who said as much when THEY confirmed that I'm Coagulation...but Node just said 'I can confirm it' and voted for me. I never PM'd Node, and I never role-claimed to Node.
##Vote: Node
...until an explanation is received.
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And no one is curious as to how Node could 'confirm' me as Coag? No one at all? I find that's VERY relevant....because I haven't PM'd him OR Roleclaimed to him.
And what do YOU guys consider relevant anyway? We're ALL just poking around in the dark because the spam is covering up all the lights...why am I suddenly the useless one? I find bum to be just as scummy as the rest of you, but Node just (as far as I'M concerned) baldfaced-LIED to all of you about being able to 'confirm' me.
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No please, by all means BC...answer the question for him.
Whatever.
##Unvote: Node
##Vote: Bumatlarge
Because rather than answer for himself, he can just choose any answer that suits him that BC just provided. My 'pressure' for answers is now useless.
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On August 17 2011 11:46 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm curious as to how Node could confirm that I'm Coagulation. Is anyone else curious? I did PM Jackal and Palmar, who said as much when THEY confirmed that I'm Coagulation...but Node just said 'I can confirm it' and voted for me. I never PM'd Node, and I never role-claimed to Node.
##Vote: Node
...until an explanation is received. How did you PM Jackal and Palmar when no PMs are allowed?
Role.
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I guess the mods didn't like the idea of a Brown Nation.
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On August 17 2011 12:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
For a no pm game the amount of pm related roles is rather hilarious.
Jealous?
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On August 18 2011 00:49 bumatlarge wrote:Just do me a favor an vig pandain once I pop town 
What do you suggest we do if you flip scum?
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Because you called WIFOM WIFOM Red. How dare you.
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I have no problem voting for BC, but keep in mind that he might also be playing with PMs. He's playing EXACTLY like he plays when he has access to PMs, and his post commenting on the ridiculous amount of PM roles made me suspect that he had one too. But that could be the case, or he could be PMing his scumteam. I don't know, and he hasn't posted enough to get an accurate read on his alignment (for me anyway...I haven't played in many games with him.)
For now I'm meh on a BC lynch, but I'm all about some BC pressure for information.
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Oh. Great. Again. If you suspect me, that's gotta be an annoying restriction.
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On August 19 2011 11:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Why is this thread so dead now -_-
What do you care?
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Very nice. I'm sure you have some reason for those reads.
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And to think I soft-defended you sir when everyone else was calling for your head.
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I would actually stop.
Play-style differences.
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He can't, see...evil mafia might hear them and then they'd have all his SECRETS.
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I fully support a BC lynch immediately.
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I DEMAND MEDIC PROTECTION TONIGHT!
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Palmar has gone radio silent now. wtf
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What are the chances that Curu is the one that is lying? There's no evidence that says he's being truthful except for a dead body...and the dead body was there before Curu's claim. Isn't it just as likely that Curu is the one that's lying about tracking Palmar?
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Keep in mind the one he's claiming can confirm his claim is someone who's neck was being measured for a noose last night. And we're basing today's lynch wholly on one of the NKs...totally ignoring the fact that only 2 people were killed last night instead of 3.
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Hey - I'm in PM contact with Palmar...and he has sensitive information. I'm just trying to look at all the options here - anyone who just sheep-votes at this point is suspicious.
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I don't know what to think. I'm rereading before I commit a vote. I DO know that Palmar pushed hard to get bum lynched, and seemed genuinely suspicious of him...I mean, him bussing his mate is obviously a possibility, but it didn't feel like that to me.
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Oh wow derp
There are 3 bodies. I guess I thought there were only 2 nks because one looks like he was blown up from a hatter or something...but yeah, 3 bodies.
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Jesus.
##Unvote: BC
##Vote: Palmar
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I mean, is anyone considering the notion that he might be compelled to claim Maf for his role? I can see someone being compelled to claim Maf if they're not.
Just sayin.
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My name is VisceraEyes, and I confirm the accuracy in redFF's post. Except the part where it says I'm medic. Because I'm not.
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If you mean what I told Red, that was all to lend credence to my claim. I'm not a medic.
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Palmar PMs ^^
+ Show Spoiler +From: Palmar [ 2226 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Yo
Date: 8/17/11 01:43
Cool, rather be clear about those things from the start
So, are you coagulation or scaramanga?
Anyway, I think you're completely off about Curu. He's basically actively trying unlike most of the people in the thread. Curu, Mig, Sandroba and I are basically the source of most information going on in this game.
Bumatlarge is very likely scum, so is Scamp. I think Syllogism is scum because normally he would be contributing as much as me, curu, mig and sandroba.
Kavdragon is almost certainly not scum, tiny chance he's 3rd party though. I dobut it.
I think one of ghrur and tnkted is scum, they're arguing like retards, but both are scummy as fuck. They may even be putting on a show and both be scum.
And Barundar is probably scum, check his play in ptp, he's playing exactly the same.
I don't really know what's up with LSB and Kita. We need Kita to clear up whether he knows he got hit, because LSB claims his shot was redirected, which would mean there is a bus driver around.
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From: Palmar [ 2226 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Yo
Date: 8/17/11 02:00
it's quite obviously a post restriction. hes not using any logic when defending you.
sandroba can communicate with everyone in the game, we have been communicating through him and curu was a part of that. I really dont think he is scum.
+ Show Spoiler +From: Palmar [ 2226 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Yo
Date: 8/17/11 02:11
No he has the same restriction, he's defending Mig today. Seems like it's a new person day 2.
He probably thinks you're scum because you're scummy as fuck.
I thought you were scum, but I don't think you're crazy enough to fake a medic claim to me, so I'm just gonna believe that.
+ Show Spoiler +From: Palmar [ 2226 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Yo
Date: 8/17/11 02:11
No he has the same restriction, he's defending Mig today. Seems like it's a new person day 2.
He probably thinks you're scum because you're scummy as fuck.
I thought you were scum, but I don't think you're crazy enough to fake a medic claim to me, so I'm just gonna believe that.
+ Show Spoiler +From: Palmar [ 2226 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Yo
Date: 8/17/11 09:06
Oh right, that's fine then.
No by all means, poke and prod, I just needed to be sure you were going to go for Bum when it comes to it. Thing is, I really think mafia wants bum to stay alive so he can nuke more people, I think they may be bussing Pandain, or Pandain is just a dumbass and mafia is seizing the opportunity.
Either way, I'm certain bum is scum.
Those are most of the PMs I received from Palmar. The rest are him commenting on my medic claim, which is false. There was a little IRC too, but I didn't save logs. There wasn't anything valuable in them...not that there's anything valuable in these.
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Whoops, 2 were the same...but you get the idea.
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I'm not picking up what you're layin down.
Are you saying that I'm NOT allowed to initiate PMs? Or that I did NOT Fake-claim medic? What's the hard part to believe exactly?
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On August 21 2011 10:50 Curu wrote:
I know they didn't, I want to know if we can know the mechanic that they had to use to find/communicate with the Traitor.
lolwut?
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I won't apologize for the role I was given, and I don't see Curu's logic anyway in tying it to BC being a traitor. Yes, I was mistakenly more trusting of Palmar than I should have been...but that doesn't make me scum, nor does my role.
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