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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 07 2011 05:56 GMT
#5
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 01:55 GMT
#84
On August 13 2011 09:11 flamewheel wrote:
Silly Americans.

Stupid nobodies.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 11:33 GMT
#127
Kurumi needs to be lynched now. Not later not tomorrow but now. Not even waiting til the end of day is good enough.
Policy lynch Kurumi day 1.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 13:04 GMT
#131
Not surprised.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 14:27 GMT
#138
Bill Murray must die.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 14:44 GMT
#142
On August 13 2011 23:32 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 23:27 Jackal58 wrote:
Bill Murray must die.

who is bill murray

You are. Now die.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 14:48 GMT
#144
Lmao


This is going to be quite different.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 15:25 GMT
#161
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 15:27 GMT
#163
On August 14 2011 00:26 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!

let me guess
your day 2 plan is to lynch Chezdragon?

Nope. Ace.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 15:30 GMT
#165
On August 14 2011 00:28 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 00:27 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:26 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!

let me guess
your day 2 plan is to lynch Chezdragon?

Nope. Ace.

thanks for letting us know that You know who ace is
scum

All I know right now is that you are BM and need to die.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#167
On August 14 2011 00:31 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 00:30 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:28 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:27 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:26 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!

let me guess
your day 2 plan is to lynch Chezdragon?

Nope. Ace.

thanks for letting us know that You know who ace is
scum

All I know right now is that you are BM and need to die.

blablabla
who the hell wants to control the lynches
and who the hell plans them on day 1

Town.
I do.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 15:36 GMT
#170
On August 14 2011 00:35 Kurumi wrote:
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On August 14 2011 00:33 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:
i told you that dt should check me night 1 then
together with a doc visiting me
jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather


What makes you think there is a godfather in this game? I didn't see any reference to it in the OP. :/

there are no roles in the op
see where we're going?

To the gallows to watch you hang.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 17:45 GMT
#188
Don't feed the troll. Lynch it.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:14 GMT
#194
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:18 GMT
#200
I'm town
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:22 GMT
#202
On August 14 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray


If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM?

I never said I am Bill Murray, where did I god damnit?


You made it so painfully obvious it's not even funny.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 13 2011 19:09 Kurumi wrote:
sup bitches i am green
i must maintain my posting license so:

[image loading]

YES WE ARE DOING POKEMON, PROBLEM?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sup son?
So this is POKEMON FIRE RED and it is SERIOUS OK?
we are not pussies so we are going with dat awesome NUZLOCKE challenge!
Link for boring people not knowing what nuzlocke challenge is

[image loading]

LOOK AT DAT POKEMON HE HAS OMG

[image loading]

i am a BOY a goddam BOY U OLD PRICK
ok wat next

[image loading]

sup that's my real name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ problem?
talk faster old guy

[image loading]

dat was obvious old man

ok that bbcoding is stressful see ya later I will keep playing like a boss
oh /confirm
who did start that anyway
thats stupid

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:37 GMT
#212
On August 14 2011 03:23 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:18 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm town


Well you just cleared whoever has the Bill Murray role as likely Town then. No way a Townie gets a win condition to get a specific Mafia lynched.

Possibility that Bill Murray a 3rd Party, but doubtful unless it's a Survivor or something.

I have no specific wincon. I win with town. I'm simply compelled to spend all my efforts into getting BM killed. I have no idea what BMs alignment is or what if any wincon he has. He must die though. I had hoped it would be quite some time before he made himself apparent. I don't like this any more than you guys do. But BM must die. Lynch him now.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:48 GMT
#217
On August 14 2011 03:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:35 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:30 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:24 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:21 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:18 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
[quote]
From my role PM
[quote]
I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray


If you're not BM, then why are you trolling as if you are BM?

I never said I am Bill Murray, where did I god damnit?


You decided to make your name Bill in the pokemon theme, have been spamming the thread, and hinted at a rivalry with L?

Kurumi's real name is Antoni
I don't know Bill Murray's real name
though I know someone with Bill as real name
I always spam the thread


So its just a coincidence that you mentioned the BM/L rivalry and jackal has it in his role pm?

I did not think about Bill Murray lol stop fishing my damn personality I was happy enough when everyone thought I was BM and put me in the useless box
also if You mention "rivalry" in jackal's "PM"
it means
Jackal is L (he claims to be town aligned)
and we have Bill Murray somewhere
that would mean that either BM is 3rd Party/Scum or L is Scum/3rd party


How does this make any sense? Why would you give a Townie a win condition that is "oh lynch this specific Mafia member" THAT'S THEIR GENERAL WIN CON ANYWAYS.

Much more likely that Jackal is a Townie with the win con to see another Townie/harmless 3rd Party lynched or Jackal is 3rd Party in which case there's the possibility Bill Murray is scum but still unlikely.


Couple explanations:

-It's to get him lynched, meaning that he has to actually get him lynched, and not killed by a vig
-Roles were made before alignments were distributed

Also, it looks like a posting restriction, not a win-con. Meaning, he has to try to get BM lynched, and is forced to do so, but it may or may not coincide with his win-con. There's nothing stopping redundancy or counter-productiveness when it's just: "You have to try to get this guy lynched".

I just have to campaign for his death. It doesn't appear to matter how he dies. I simply must campaign for his death. So ya it's a posting restriction.

I have no restrictions regarding posting other things though. So as the game goes on I will give my thoughts on others and my reasoning behind them. But I will also have to continue pushing for the death of Kurumi/BM.

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:53 GMT
#220
On August 14 2011 03:49 syllogism wrote:
What's the point of having such a posting restriction when you can apparently just say that it's just that, a posting restriction? Anyway, if you have a distracting posting restriction that doesn't stipulate that you can't announce it in the thread, you should go ahead and do it, especially if doesn't give away your personality.

I already posted my PM line regarding BM and what I am compelled to do. I have no list of things I can't do. Simply that if BM is revealed I must put all my efforts into getting him killed. So kill him already.
And my personality is already painfully obvious.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 18:59 GMT
#224
On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red

I checked your mother.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:03 GMT
#228
On August 14 2011 03:59 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:49 syllogism wrote:
What's the point of having such a posting restriction when you can apparently just say that it's just that, a posting restriction? Anyway, if you have a distracting posting restriction that doesn't stipulate that you can't announce it in the thread, you should go ahead and do it, especially if doesn't give away your personality.

I already posted my PM line regarding BM and what I am compelled to do. I have no list of things I can't do. Simply that if BM is revealed I must put all my efforts into getting him killed. So kill him already.
And my personality is already painfully obvious.

I call bullshit because You can't know BM's identity without a DT check.

Your pokemon names scream BM. Your adversary is L. You were obviously informed in your role PM wtf was going down. Coincidence doesn't happen. After that post I strongly believe you to not be town. Maybe not scum but definitely not town.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:05 GMT
#230
On August 14 2011 04:03 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red


What the fuck is this? You're claiming DT already? Day DT?

Explain.

Kenpachi and Kurumi are scum together?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:07 GMT
#234
On August 14 2011 04:06 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:03 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:59 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:49 syllogism wrote:
What's the point of having such a posting restriction when you can apparently just say that it's just that, a posting restriction? Anyway, if you have a distracting posting restriction that doesn't stipulate that you can't announce it in the thread, you should go ahead and do it, especially if doesn't give away your personality.

I already posted my PM line regarding BM and what I am compelled to do. I have no list of things I can't do. Simply that if BM is revealed I must put all my efforts into getting him killed. So kill him already.
And my personality is already painfully obvious.

I call bullshit because You can't know BM's identity without a DT check.

Your pokemon names scream BM. Your adversary is L. You were obviously informed in your role PM wtf was going down. Coincidence doesn't happen. After that post I strongly believe you to not be town. Maybe not scum but definitely not town.

You mean this?
+ Show Spoiler +
Lastly, L is out to get you!

Yes I would assume something like that.
Y u lie Kurumi?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:11 GMT
#236
On August 14 2011 04:06 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:03 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red


What the fuck is this? You're claiming DT already? Day DT?

Explain.

Kenpachi and Kurumi are scum together?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Yeah, sounds amazing to lose two members day 1.
Are You scared? QUICKLY, ARGUE MILLER

I don't feel compelled to argue anything. We have established your willingness to lie. If I get lynched unless I do flip miller Kenpachi will also die a scummy death and town can deal with a confirmed scummy liar such as you are at their leisure. You sir are surely not town and you need to die.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:12 GMT
#237
On August 14 2011 04:09 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:07 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:06 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:03 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:59 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:49 syllogism wrote:
What's the point of having such a posting restriction when you can apparently just say that it's just that, a posting restriction? Anyway, if you have a distracting posting restriction that doesn't stipulate that you can't announce it in the thread, you should go ahead and do it, especially if doesn't give away your personality.

I already posted my PM line regarding BM and what I am compelled to do. I have no list of things I can't do. Simply that if BM is revealed I must put all my efforts into getting him killed. So kill him already.
And my personality is already painfully obvious.

I call bullshit because You can't know BM's identity without a DT check.

Your pokemon names scream BM. Your adversary is L. You were obviously informed in your role PM wtf was going down. Coincidence doesn't happen. After that post I strongly believe you to not be town. Maybe not scum but definitely not town.

You mean this?
+ Show Spoiler +
Lastly, L is out to get you!

Yes I would assume something like that.
Y u lie Kurumi?

Um because I thought we have intelligent mafia team being able to swing lynches
but then
godfather outing himself day 1 just to kill me lol
sure I am Bill Murray, happy?

Godfather almost always shows green to a DT. You wanna keep digging this hole I won't stop you.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:16 GMT
#241
On August 14 2011 04:12 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:11 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:06 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:03 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote:
Oh and i checked Jackal. hes red


What the fuck is this? You're claiming DT already? Day DT?

Explain.

Kenpachi and Kurumi are scum together?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Yeah, sounds amazing to lose two members day 1.
Are You scared? QUICKLY, ARGUE MILLER

I don't feel compelled to argue anything. We have established your willingness to lie. If I get lynched unless I do flip miller Kenpachi will also die a scummy death and town can deal with a confirmed scummy liar such as you are at their leisure. You sir are surely not town and you need to die.

You are liar too, because You have no idea who Bill Murray is.
Maybe it is me because I breadcrumbed it and said I am Bill Murray? Maybe I am trying to save the guy who is Bill Murray? NO, YOU ARE SURE I AM BILL MURRAY!
How?

My Name: B i l l
Your adversaries name: L

You spelled it out dude.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:35 GMT
#260
If Kenpachi is a DT I'm fucking Mother Theresa. We're not even 24 hours into day one and he has a DT check? Don't think so. He also came up with the wrong alignment for me.

I actually had to PM Incognito to ask him for my alignment. There was none included in my role PM. I at first thought I was some type of weird ass 3rd party.
He answered my PM telling me I am town. Did anybody else have no alignment included in their PM? Maybe we are all town and this is simply a battle of personalities?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:45 GMT
#271
On August 14 2011 04:41 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:
On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:
On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm

Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.


there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know?

if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day.


Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody.

Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up.

On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb)

Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules:
On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm

Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.

People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital.


I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up.



-----


Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray.

However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure.


So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead?

Hi there scum logic.


Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not.


Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality.


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On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!



Don't count me. I am compelled to advocate his death.

Kenpachi may also be Proactinium.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:49 GMT
#274
On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.

LSB where'd you go?

Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit.

If he is a DT he is dead tonight


Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough.

Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities:

1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot.

2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia.
or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia.

Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks.

Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +
Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1.


What's the big VI jump from?

The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 19:54 GMT
#278
On August 14 2011 04:51 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:44 LSB wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:25 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:18 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 04:17 Curu wrote:
Both of you shut up about this.

LSB where'd you go?

Do not shoot Jackal. If Kenpachi is Village Idiot, he just randomly picked someone to die. If he's a legit DT he can get off a lot more checks and when something confirms him we'll know that he's legit.

If he is a DT he is dead tonight


Then Jackal dies the day after. Easy enough.

Either way if Kenpachi is a DT both of them die. Not jumping the gun and shooting Jackal is the best way to go about this because the possibilities:

1) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Town. We don't lose a Townie to the Village Idiot.

2) Kenpachi is Village Idiot and Jackal is Mafia.
or 3) Kenpachi is DT and Jackal is Mafia.

Mafia has no way of knowing which one is true. They have to decide to gamble and let Kenpachi live assuming he's VI and picked Jackal at random because if they kill him and he does indeed flip DT instead of VI then Jackal's dead for sure. But there's also the chance he's a real DT and leaving him alive lets him get off more and more checks.

Kenpachi claiming doesn't tell us anything, it's pretty obvious that his role *cough* cogulation *cough* forced him to claim. + Show Spoiler +
Doesn't capitalize, role claims day 1.


What's the big VI jump from?

The Coag personality was compelled to role claim in PM land. He chose me. Ken is not Coag. I will not reveal the player or his claimed role.

role claim in pms when the game has no pms
right
and anyway if someone could pm someone he wouldn't do that fast
liar

Somebody doesn't quite grasp the personality concept yet.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#299
Fuck. Sorry.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 21:15 GMT
#316
On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:
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On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?


I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.


I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.


two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about.

the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.

He admitted to being BM. I am compelled to try to get him killed.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 21:28 GMT
#324
On August 14 2011 06:19 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?


I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.


I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.


two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about.

the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.


Giving someone the role of "tunnel this scum" seems like such a huge disadvantage for the scum team and counter-intuitive though.

Kurumi could have spammed his entire way through the game and I would have just assumed it was Kurumi being Kurumi. He had no compelling reason to post his personality name and mine in his first post of the game. If he is indeed scum that's his fault for outing himself with his first post. I could have ignored it but if you go and read the L and BM sections of the Mafia Quiz like I did you may also get the impression that Kurumi can kill me tonight. I am mentioned in his role PM apparently. So ya I have a compelling reason to want him dead.
Coupled with Kenpachi's timing of his DT claim and who he claimed to have checked I am strongly beginning to believe that they are both scum.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 21:35 GMT
#327
On August 14 2011 06:30 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 06:28 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:19 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?


I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.


I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.


two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about.

the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.


Giving someone the role of "tunnel this scum" seems like such a huge disadvantage for the scum team and counter-intuitive though.

Kurumi could have spammed his entire way through the game and I would have just assumed it was Kurumi being Kurumi. He had no compelling reason to post his personality name and mine in his first post of the game. If he is indeed scum that's his fault for outing himself with his first post. I could have ignored it but if you go and read the L and BM sections of the Mafia Quiz like I did you may also get the impression that Kurumi can kill me tonight. I am mentioned in his role PM apparently. So ya I have a compelling reason to want him dead.
Coupled with Kenpachi's timing of his DT claim and who he claimed to have checked I am strongly beginning to believe that they are both scum.

so You want to kill me because You're scared about Your life?

I want to kill you because you are BM and I am L.
It's my life's work to kill you.

Have you read the Mafia quiz where the personality traits are lifted from? If not I suggest you do so.
Jackal58 does not want to kill you nearly as much as L does. Don't take it personally.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#334
Sorry Pandain I ain't buying what you're selling.
On August 14 2011 06:36 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 06:35 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:30 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:28 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:19 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:
On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?


I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.


I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.


two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about.

the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.


Giving someone the role of "tunnel this scum" seems like such a huge disadvantage for the scum team and counter-intuitive though.

Kurumi could have spammed his entire way through the game and I would have just assumed it was Kurumi being Kurumi. He had no compelling reason to post his personality name and mine in his first post of the game. If he is indeed scum that's his fault for outing himself with his first post. I could have ignored it but if you go and read the L and BM sections of the Mafia Quiz like I did you may also get the impression that Kurumi can kill me tonight. I am mentioned in his role PM apparently. So ya I have a compelling reason to want him dead.
Coupled with Kenpachi's timing of his DT claim and who he claimed to have checked I am strongly beginning to believe that they are both scum.

so You want to kill me because You're scared about Your life?

I want to kill you because you are BM and I am L.
It's my life's work to kill you.

Have you read the Mafia quiz where the personality traits are lifted from? If not I suggest you do so.
Jackal58 does not want to kill you nearly as much as L does. Don't take it personally.

You contradict Yourself
"I don't need to lynch/kill You as my win con but I must do it."

Ah you're either dense or you are truly scum. I am required to push for your death. I stated so up front. But you either do not understand that part or you are worried about your name being brought up every time I post. A townie would have understood my compulsion as many others in this game have. A townie would have ignored me. But first you lied. Then you began to attack me. After I explained my reasons. You could have let it go but you chose not to. You have called me a liar. You have called me scum. You have attempted to discredit me in every way possible. Even when I again tell you that I'm playing L. I'm scum or a liar. You sir are most likely scum. I give you reasons for my behavior and I even tell you that I (Jackal58) had no real compelling reason for you to die. Yet you persist. You could have just continued playing Pokemon and ignored me. I would have been ok with that. I would have been fucking obnoxious to everyone but I would have been ok with that. But you chose not to do that. You are scum sir. (Jackal58's belief)


And wtf Kita?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:01 GMT
#336
Hi Bum
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:06 GMT
#340
On August 14 2011 07:01 tnkted wrote:
the ?? was directed at pandain.

I know you're probably kidding Kita, but I actually don't mind the report card idea. The self-evaluation seems a bit stupid (seems like it will inspire more arguements than it will solve) but the report card is actually legit. Heres a question though: Who decides grades? I certainly don't trust you to do so, I have no idea if you're scum or not. Things like 'attempt to contribute without contributing' could easily be argued.

Also the names are missing from the document, it just has the scores.

If you're asking me I just told Pandain I simple said I'm not believing him.
Rest of my post was at Kurumi.

And Curu that's scummy as fuck.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:06 GMT
#341
I see the names???????
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:18 GMT
#347
On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now.

Pardon my level of disbelief.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:21 GMT
#350
On August 14 2011 07:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 06:40 Foolishness wrote:
On August 14 2011 06:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that there is a seeming mass of people (Including many vets) who have not posted or contributed yet? It seems like it's the same, maybe 8 people actually discussing things right now.

List:

Dr. H
Node
~OpZ~
Misder
Barundar
Flamewheel
meapak_ziphh
youngminii
Scamp
RebirthOfLeGenD
Fishball (No posts)
Aidnai (No posts)

(I left out BC and Chezinu, because they mentioned they were going out)

Then there's guys like Foolishness, who only have troll posts.

It's a 32 player game, and 15 people have no actual game posts, with day being half over in 6 hours or so.

Where'd everyone go? =l

Hark! Do point out where I have made a troll post if you dare! A nice bluff you seek here, perhaps you wish me dead so that your mafia team can rest easy once I have departed. Or is it that you fail to read between the lines? I assure you that I am very serious about my campaign platform, and I do not enjoy those that seek to erect brick walls in my path. For that is the mafia ploy: building walls in front of the townies. But I will not have any of it! I will take my bulldozer and plow right through all your walls. And by the end it is you that will be lying crumpled beneath the heap of bricks, where not even your fellow mafia dare dig to recover your rotten flesh.


Nice to see you're around, Sir Foolishness. I thought you might be Kav, but I'm probably wrong. (Unless your diction is self-imposed)

What are your thoughts on the game so far? What do you think about Jackal and Kurumi? What do you think about other potential lynch candidates? What do you think about the rather deplorable level of activity exhibited so far?

People aren't talking, and that's a cause for concern. It's just the same people talking about the same stuff (mostly). Let's actually get this game going, please.

Lets see how many have actually read up on the personality they received.
How many of you went and read the entry in the Mafia quiz Ver linked. Because that's where your personality came from. At least mine did. How many are just trying to guess based upon what you may know or have heard regarding your personality?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:26 GMT
#353
On August 14 2011 07:23 Kurumi wrote:
oh
in case You didn't get it
I WAS THE INVENTOR LOL

Are you outing all this based upon Pandain or were you told by a higher authority you have lost your power(s)?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:30 GMT
#356
Never mind Kurumi.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:56 GMT
#368
Lemme get this straight. Pandain makes a day 1 role claim. Says nobody can spam but BM/Kurumi. Then "bans" BM/Kurumi for spamming. Lmao. And Kurumi is buying it.
Cool.

Would Ver or Incognito be kind enough to verify that BM is no longer in the game?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 22:59 GMT
#371
Last I checked you weren't Ver or Incognito.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#378
On August 14 2011 08:13 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:
On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now.

Excuse me mister Qatol, but how do you suposedly know kurumi's aligment?


Mah B.
I should have said "Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal possible-mafia-possible-townie-but-im-leaning-townie-because-i-dont-think-mafia-would-be-that-utterly-stupid-and-risk-being-gone-from-game

I'll remember that next time.

You'll pardon my disbelief as I await mod confirmation.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 23:29 GMT
#390
You didn't do jack Pandain. Kurumi/Bill Murray wishes to die. Let's oblige him.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 23:35 GMT
#396
This whole thing stinks.
On August 14 2011 04:39 Pandain wrote:
I am Qatol, mighty upholder of the law.
Roles do no say that you must spam the game. + Show Spoiler +
Unless you are Bill Murray.

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 23:38 GMT
#399
Why are you guys assuming Kurumi is town?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#400
On August 14 2011 08:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Why are you guys assuming Kurumi is town?

That's Jackal58 talking not L.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 13 2011 23:44 GMT
#403
I think they're both scum.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 00:48 GMT
#417
No clue.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 12:49 GMT
#458
Yes I can post other things and I have. However I must campaign for BM's death "no matter what" So kill Kurumi.

I already called bullshit on Pandains claim. First it's Pandain and it's day 1. I don't care what personality he received it is still a day 1 Pandain role claim. His first post making the claim states all spam must stop with "Unless you are Bill Murray" in a spoiler. And then he claims to use his power on the one person he said was exempt. That makes less sense than using his so called ability in the first place.

The Kenpachi DT claim only makes sense if he is RoL. That said the timing of it bothers me more than the claim itself or my inclusion in it as his supposed target. Kurumi's reaction to my tunneling is also bothersome. He knows I am compelled to do so. I have made that clear yet he still insists upon fighting with me about it. And then Kenpachi arrives on the scene with his claim. That appears to me to be collusion.

Curu's "kill batman" pic screams scum at me for some reason.

I reread my role PM and yes my name is in green. It is a single letter and it didn't register with me hence my confusion.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 15:15 GMT
#468
On August 14 2011 23:43 Scamp wrote:
We should probably have Kenpachi nameclaim in order to verify what the hell is going on.

And the whole Pandain thing is getting ridiculous. What he did was idiotic, no doubt, but was it scummy? I can't see scum getting so caught up in the flavor that he thought he was getting townie points by removing BM. However, most people can't seem to think that any townie would ever do that so there we go.

It's pretty much a one-note case that will most likely end up being our lynch for the day and I don't want our day 1 to revolve around it. Thus...

##Kill: Pandain

Now let's start playing this game.

What exactly do you want day 1 to revolve around? Why most vigs are dumb?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 17:03 GMT
#474
So Kav is playing Chezinu. The question is is Aidnai on his scum team and he's attempting to recruit new players to it while offing the originals or is he 3rd party?
Or is he town and just stuck having to bark like a dog?
He has apparently already recruited Kurumi. Lynching Kurumi to see what he flips as may shed an enormous amount of light upon Kav. Kill Bill Murray. Kill him now!!!!!


I'm also very disappointed at the participation level in this game. Step it up you fucking slackers.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 17:04 GMT
#475
On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
Kitaman has said literally nothing this game, his only analysis has been a flimsy "Kavdragon is Chez, so Chez must be third party". That is just BS, Brown is a mixure of all the alignments, anyone can be brown. Not just third party.

Lynch him and see why I'm the best mafia player in the world

Of course we could always lynch the Ace persona.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 17:45 GMT
#482
I have no idea wtf a Walton is but LSB is Ace not Mea. Not that it really matters as long as he dies before he infects us all with his ignorance lists.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 18:38 GMT
#491
On August 15 2011 02:59 deconduo wrote:

@Jackal

If you can't lynch BM who would you lynch instead and why?

LSB. He has posted nothing of substance.
His first post he bitches about people playing within their assigned personalities. That's what this game is all about.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 14 2011 03:04 LSB wrote:
All you guys are idiots, rather than trying to play the game you guys are just acting out your roles. This ain't Furrydom's role play forum, I'm trying to play a game here and all these random people come in spewing some nonsense about pokemon. What's up with Kurumurry? At least BM tried to post things in the thread besides sheer spam. I'm ignoring him from here.

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On August 14 2011 00:59 tnkted wrote:
On August 14 2011 00:46 syllogism wrote:
What's the point in personality speculation and fishing at this stage? You should keep notes of your thoughts rather than voicing them in the thread unless you've a reason for it. The thread is already quite unreadable with all the supposed posting restriction related spam. Even if you have a posting restriction you don't have to be so obnoxious about it as there's always some leeway no matter what the PM stipulates.


WRONG

Know what personality people have is very useful for town. Outing roles is lame, but knowing personality can help us understand clues that somebody might be hinting at without revealing anything.

BTW guys pay attention to everyone's first couple posts. That's when we'll see the personality coming out the most, as people have fun with the roleplaying.

(PS Syllogism is meapak_zipph)

Personality fishing is just BS, personalities are not tied to roles and I have no idea why any of you would think that they do. What do you think you can tell me about Syllogism's role or alignment is if you know he is Meapak?


Complains about people trying to figure out others assigned personalities while doing it himself.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 14 2011 03:22 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 03:14 Kurumi wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:14 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 14 2011 03:02 Curu wrote:
I've already asked Incognito, you don't have to do anything special beyond what post restrictions are strictly outlined in your role PM.

So if you don't have a set-in-stone restriction to act like your role, stop it. It's extremely anti-Town by turning everyone into borderline trolls and making everyone hard to read. Scum can blend in oh so easily when everyone's trying their best to parody someone.

Yeah it's fun but we've had our spat, let's get down to business.

From my role PM
If Bill Murray’s identity every becomes known, you must campaign for his death no matter what.

I'm not trying to parody or role play my personality. I'm compelled to get him lynched. Sorry.

thanks god incognito said he will punish roleclaimers
also I call bullshit because I am not bill murray

Coag then? Seems unlikely since Coag doesn't troll the thread all the time



Bitches about spam while actively spamming.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2011 01:59 LSB wrote:
Kitaman has said literally nothing this game, his only analysis has been a flimsy "Kavdragon is Chez, so Chez must be third party". That is just BS, Brown is a mixure of all the alignments, anyone can be brown. Not just third party.

Lynch him and see why I'm the best mafia player in the world




On August 15 2011 02:06 LSB wrote:
Any discussion of brown will now be henceforth labeled as spam and ignored.

Ignore List
Kurumi (Relentless Spam)
Kavdragon (Relentless Spam)
Aidnai (Nothing but brown spam)



So if I didn't think Bill Murray was the best possible lynch target for real reasons I've already given LSB would be it. LSB is scum. There are a fair few things going on that make little sense to me right now but LSB flipping red isn't one of them. But Bill Murray must die.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 19:53 GMT
#501
On August 15 2011 04:48 syllogism wrote:
Where is the flip? This is a majority lynch system, we've a bit over 7h until lynch and euros will have to go soon. We've to start consolidating votes soon and we need the flip first. If pandain flips town, scamp will definitely get my vote because even supposing he had a posting restriction that forces him to day vig someone on day 1, his reasoning was ridiculously bad.

5. This game follows Extended Majority Lynch Rules. Majority = #of players remaining in the game/2) + 1. Unlike in traditional majority lynch, the lynch is NOT decided the moment majority is reached. Instead, only the final vote count matters. If there is no majority at the deadline, the day ends with a no lynch. Non-voters will be modkilled for failure to vote.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 20:42 GMT
#513
On August 15 2011 05:27 Kavdragon wrote:
Deconduo: + Show Spoiler +
We both arrived at a location that was NOT our respective homes, but had internet, firday night. I received my role PM then, and offered to log out and let him check his. He declined. After that he had a few opportunities to get on, but nothing much until about 3 PM PST. He had about 5 hours to post at that point however, yet he didn't even say Hi. So yes, it's not as strong as if he had been looking all day, but it's still extremely suspicious that after being on for ~5 hours, he responded very quickly to my attack.


Kav would you be so kind as to point out in the game where Decon posted that gem? And somebody please kill Kurumi.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 21:02 GMT
#529
On August 15 2011 05:52 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 05:27 Kavdragon wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:
First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda.

Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point.

I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source.

I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned.

On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.

Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.

##Vote: Kavdragon


This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case.


It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious.


I would like to point out that I am the only person thus far who has done any "scumhunting" thus far. (As most "analysis" have been poor and not anything that would set a lynch.) I set the trap for inactive people, and Aidnai jumped in it. Silly VE doens't want to give me the benefit of the doubt. A better question: Why not Aidnai? He's only come in to defend himself, and then dissapeared. Do you dissagree with my analysis of his reaction to my pressure?

You will notice that I almost never posted something about Walton by itself. I always gave advice to the town, tried to get people to stop spaming, or commented on some situation, and then, as an addendum, added the Walton stuff on. I did this because I knew that nobody would understand Walton, and that it could NOT be the only thing I contributed.

Deconduo: + Show Spoiler +
We both arrived at a location that was NOT our respective homes, but had internet, firday night. I received my role PM then, and offered to log out and let him check his. He declined. After that he had a few opportunities to get on, but nothing much until about 3 PM PST. He had about 5 hours to post at that point however, yet he didn't even say Hi. So yes, it's not as strong as if he had been looking all day, but it's still extremely suspicious that after being on for ~5 hours, he responded very quickly to my attack.


To those of you who think that I'm a cultist: "Recruiting" Kurumi was an attempt to get him to stop spammign, and make him uesful for the town. You will notice that every public action has the hashtag form, and I have never used that. This means that if I have a recruiting power, it would have to be private, in which case why would I make it public that I was recruiting Kurumi? It makes no sense. I am not a cultist, I amd town. (Oh, and there. I deny being anything other than town. Not so sure what's magical about those words, but if you want them, there they are.)


That sounds pretty damning to me. My two top scum suspects at the moment are Aidnai and LSB. I would prefer to get LSB lynched but that isn't going to happen with 6 hours left. I'm somewhat aprehensive about trusting you, but you're not dumb enough to offer a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't certain. Don't expect to wiggle out of it if aidnai flips town though.

Vote Aidnai


Decon- When and where did you post the spoiler in Kavs post????
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 21:05 GMT
#532
On August 15 2011 06:04 deconduo wrote:
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On August 15 2011 06:02 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:52 deconduo wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:27 Kavdragon wrote:
On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:
First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda.

Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point.

I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source.

I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned.

On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.

Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.

##Vote: Kavdragon


This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case.


It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious.


I would like to point out that I am the only person thus far who has done any "scumhunting" thus far. (As most "analysis" have been poor and not anything that would set a lynch.) I set the trap for inactive people, and Aidnai jumped in it. Silly VE doens't want to give me the benefit of the doubt. A better question: Why not Aidnai? He's only come in to defend himself, and then dissapeared. Do you dissagree with my analysis of his reaction to my pressure?

You will notice that I almost never posted something about Walton by itself. I always gave advice to the town, tried to get people to stop spaming, or commented on some situation, and then, as an addendum, added the Walton stuff on. I did this because I knew that nobody would understand Walton, and that it could NOT be the only thing I contributed.

Deconduo: + Show Spoiler +
We both arrived at a location that was NOT our respective homes, but had internet, firday night. I received my role PM then, and offered to log out and let him check his. He declined. After that he had a few opportunities to get on, but nothing much until about 3 PM PST. He had about 5 hours to post at that point however, yet he didn't even say Hi. So yes, it's not as strong as if he had been looking all day, but it's still extremely suspicious that after being on for ~5 hours, he responded very quickly to my attack.


To those of you who think that I'm a cultist: "Recruiting" Kurumi was an attempt to get him to stop spammign, and make him uesful for the town. You will notice that every public action has the hashtag form, and I have never used that. This means that if I have a recruiting power, it would have to be private, in which case why would I make it public that I was recruiting Kurumi? It makes no sense. I am not a cultist, I amd town. (Oh, and there. I deny being anything other than town. Not so sure what's magical about those words, but if you want them, there they are.)


That sounds pretty damning to me. My two top scum suspects at the moment are Aidnai and LSB. I would prefer to get LSB lynched but that isn't going to happen with 6 hours left. I'm somewhat aprehensive about trusting you, but you're not dumb enough to offer a 1 for 1 trade if you aren't certain. Don't expect to wiggle out of it if aidnai flips town though.

Vote Aidnai


Decon- When and where did you post the spoiler in Kavs post????


I didn't post that, he was responding to this:

Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 02:59 deconduo wrote:
@Kavdragon

Did you know aidnai wasn't around because of the road trip or is he lying?

Thank you. My bad. I thought he was quoting you.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 21:34 GMT
#547
Apparently Kurumi has been cloned. I'm gonna go soak my head in a bucket..
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 22:38 GMT
#576
On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote:
Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.

Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.

Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:




Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,

AND

Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.


Let it be resolved:

Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.

Jackal
Fishball
Curu
Palmar
Syllo
LSB
Kenpachi
BloodyC0bbler
Meapak

These people need to put there votes on one of us two.

I can't. Somebody kill Kurumi and I'd be happy to.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 23:47 GMT
#592
I don't think scum would get a mason role.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 23:57 GMT
#602
On August 15 2011 08:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On August 15 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote:
I don't think scum would get a mason role.


Why? You got mason as scum recently in a game. derp

Not really. I had to contact people via PM and convince them to give me their hallows. It wasn't a mason role. I simply lied about turning it into a mason role.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 14 2011 23:58 GMT
#603
On August 15 2011 08:55 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote:
I don't think scum would get a mason role.


<3

Ya ok. I guess they can. Sorry sweetie. You're right.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 00:49 GMT
#612
On August 15 2011 09:44 Curu wrote:
So many people with their votes spread out uselessly right now. A few attempts to deflect lynch onto Kavdragon/VE. Hell, RoL just voted Kurumi.

Anyone still think the Aidnai wagon is happening way too easily?

The fact that a DocH vote is on him makes me think he's town.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 02:07 GMT
#624
I'm taking a calculated risk. I'm changing my vote. Nothin says I have to vote for BM. But I really need to know Aidnais alignment for other reasons.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 02:17 GMT
#626
No sorry. I can't right now.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 02:37 GMT
#629
Good luck with that.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 09:38 GMT
#683
Alright redFF. Before your obsession grows any larger why exactly am I scum?
And where did you get the Lyncher shit from? And somebody please kill Kurumi.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#692
Wtf Kurumi.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 18:21 GMT
#712
On August 16 2011 02:23 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 18:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Alright redFF. Before your obsession grows any larger why exactly am I scum?
And where did you get the Lyncher shit from? And somebody please kill Kurumi.

You have to get another player lynched, therefore you are a lyncher. Lynchers are never town, they are 3rd party. Not to mention kurumi was an inventor(yes i believe this). If kurumi was a VI then he would have gotten himself lynched by playing scummy, not by outright trolling the thread. YOu are not town. Vigs on Jackal tonight please.

If you vote me for mayor i will unban kurumi and he will no longer need to be replaced!

I don't have to get Kurumi/BM lynched. I just have to campaign for his death. I don't care how he dies.
I get nothing out of it. I receive no special powers. I gain no extra life. I get no KP. I get nothing but the peace of mind of no longer having to campaign for his death "no matter what". I (Jackal58) didn't really have any reason for him to get lynched or vigid or whatever until I saw how he continued to react to me even after it was apparent to everybody including him that I must campaign for his death. It's not like anybody was taking it seriously but him. Perhaps he has to as well. I dunno. But I can live without his spam. So ya go tunnel somebody else. I'm done with Kurumi/BM until he's replaced or unbanned.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 23:12 GMT
#739
On August 16 2011 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 16 2011 07:27 redFF wrote:
On August 16 2011 07:18 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 15 2011 12:21 Incognito wrote:
[image loading]

Night 1


The rowdy townspeople dragged aidnai to a dark room underneath the city hall, hoping to test their new execution device before using it to execute the 3 inactives. The room filled with chanting and jeering, followed by a sudden silence. Aidnai winced as he saw the executioner motion toward the switch. A moment later, blue sparks flew everywhere, and the town began to cheer. But their cheers turned into confusion, as a still alive aidnai began to walk straight toward the executioners chamber. Before too much chaos could ensue, an arrow zoomed past the crowd and shot straight through aidnai's chest, killing him instantly.

Disappointed at the failure of the device, the town pardoned the three inactives...for now.

aidnai, Chezinu's evil twin has been lynched!
Chezinu has regained his sanity!

Nobody is modkilled today. We are looking for 4 replacements, however.




Night ends tomorrow at 03:00 GMT (+00:00). Please send me your night actions before then.



Chezinu's Evil twin has been lynched.
Chezinu has regained his sanity.

Mod-confirmed there's a Chezinu.

hey there! Care to give any reads or anything? or are you just gonna lurk and make pointless, easy, looking like your contributing posts like this? Dis guy mafia.


What the hell are you talking about? I have given reads, if you've read. Kav is prob town (But I need to re-evaluate after the weird twin business), VE is scum, and I didn't feel good about an Aidnai lynch.

So why is everybody giving Kav a free pass when I was insta lynch when Voldemort flipped town? And I didn't even advocate killing Voldamort. I don't know how you guys think. It looks like the exact situation I was in. I would at least hope a DT would check him tonight. Other than Kenpachi.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 23:21 GMT
#741
An answer to my PM would be most appreciated Incog. I'm confused.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 15 2011 23:56 GMT
#743
On August 16 2011 08:35 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 08:21 Jackal58 wrote:
An answer to my PM would be most appreciated Incog. I'm confused.

^

Neither of those were answers to my PM. Because I didn't ask my question in the thread. But the answer is the BM persona will remain in the game. If Kurumi is not replaced he will resume play when his ban is over. So somebody kill him.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 09:32 GMT
#818
If that was you Ghrur thank you. And redFF I hate to disappoint you but here's what happens................................................................................................ ..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Nothing.
I can stop posting like a moron.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 12:31 GMT
#827
On August 16 2011 21:16 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 20:58 deconduo wrote:
Theres something important that people seem to be missing:

Kurumi the Bill Murray was eaten by a shark.

The inventor has invented a digital scale.


Kurumi claimed inventor, but said Pandain stripped his powers. He flips vanilla townie which makes sense.

HOWEVER, we get a message about the inventor. Not AN inventor, THE inventor. Pandain is clearly a role thief, and he is now the inventor.


Or Kurumi is lying about his role.



Btw...


Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 12:18 ghrur wrote:
LSB's not Ace right? Clearly Ace doesn't have a monopoly on that picture either. >_> Keep on tnkted, keep on.


Oh don't be a child. Fine, LSB is ace. You've convinced me. Speaking of which, Ghrur, I take it since you never responded to my big defense post, it was fairly convincing to you. What do you think about the people who hopped on that wagon who didn't even read my refutations, but were happy to use your initial suspicion?

Personalities
Jackal: L
Kurumi: BM
Pandain: Qatol
Kavdragon: Chezinu
Sandaroba: Ver
Syllogism: Meapak_Zipph?
kenpachi: RoL
Foolishness: Bumatlarge
Curu: Foolishness
LSB: Ace]
RoL: Kenpachi? I'm not sure... why would he be able to post more once BM was dead?



Regarding last night: If LSB really targeted kita and then stupidly announced it in thread (Is that what happened? Really?) It's possible that the bus driver role (ie, me) is on the other team and Kita is scum, they bussed him out to save him. The other alternative is that LSB is scum and lied about his shot. Or Kita could be me and he bussed himself when he realized he was in danger.

Either way, until we get more info, I'm hopping on the LSB wagon, just to see where it goes.

#vote lsb

Are you claiming to be the bus driver? Or are you saying somebody has received you as a personality? If it's the latter stop flattering yourself. You didn't make the cut.
+ Show Spoiler +
~OpZ~
0cz3c
Ace
Annul
AttackZerg
BillMurray
BloodyC0bbler
Bumatlarge
Caller
Chaoser
Chezinu
Chuiu
citi.zen
Coagulation
DoctorHelvetica
Dreamflower
FakeSteve
Fishball
Flamewheel
Foolishness
Incognito
JimboSilvers
Kavdragon
Kenpachi
Korynne
L
LSB
LTT
Meapak_Ziphh
Meeple
MrBabyHands
nemY
Pandain
Protactinium
Pyrrhuloxia
Qatol
Radfield
RebirthOfLeGenD
redtooth
Showtime!
Ver
Youngminii
Zona


I've also pointed out to you at least twice prior to Ghrur that LSB is Ace yet you've ignored it and are now getting kind of pissy about it. I suggest you go reread the Mafia quiz that these caricatures are lifted from. Your insistence that Ace is somebody other than LSB is worrisome to me. It paints you both in a bad light. And now you're just going to "hop on the LSB wagon" Looks like you are throwing your scum buddy under the bus to me.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 17:14 GMT
#875
On August 17 2011 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean, I get that he was under some kind of posting restriction , but why me is my question. Why would he choose to defend ME as part of his post restriction? One would think he'd choose someone who's A) worth defending i.e. playing pro-town or B) someone more well-known. Surely his role didn't DICTATE who he defended, I have no history with any of the personalities likely to have been chosen for this game.

Why would somebody playing "pro town" need to be defended and are you saying you're not playing "pro town"?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 18:17 GMT
#877
On August 17 2011 02:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Of course I'm not playing pro-town, are you reading the thread? I'm lurking like a bastard and have until now been VERY hesitant to share my suspicions with the rest of town. I mean, I've made a couple of pro-town observations, but even those have been mostly empty and contentless. I don't blame ANYONE who thinks I'm scum at this point...but I'm not.

OMFG! YOU CAN DO A BETTER FUCKING COAG THAN THAT!!!!!!!!
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 18:21 GMT
#879
On August 17 2011 03:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 03:17 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 17 2011 02:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Of course I'm not playing pro-town, are you reading the thread? I'm lurking like a bastard and have until now been VERY hesitant to share my suspicions with the rest of town. I mean, I've made a couple of pro-town observations, but even those have been mostly empty and contentless. I don't blame ANYONE who thinks I'm scum at this point...but I'm not.

OMFG! YOU CAN DO A BETTER FUCKING COAG THAN THAT!!!!!!!!


You think thats coag? doesn't appear to be coag at all, unless you already know his personality.

He had to role claim to somebody via PM. He chose me. Coag is the only one that fits.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 18:30 GMT
#882
On August 17 2011 03:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
If he had to role claim, shouldn't you know his name?

He just role claimed. I answered with "You're Coag" He said "Damn you're good"
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 18:43 GMT
#884
Two timing bitch.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 19:05 GMT
#890
On August 17 2011 04:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 03:59 Curu wrote:
On August 17 2011 03:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 17 2011 03:55 Curu wrote:
I know there is a Vig left. scumatlarge purposely did this to go out with a bang and take out another Townie who likely had a DT role (Chezinu went sane). I propose we lynch someone else today and let the Vig take care of scumatlarge.

Oh and

M y hero for all ages, the wondrous Mig,
I love that your name is so short and not big.
G o Mig and lead the Town to victory?


I wonder if anyone else figured out your post restriction yet. Its pretty luls.


I know you have. This is partially all your fault, except it's even worse this time.


hosts have sick senses of humour don't they.

You have no idea.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 20:21 GMT
#926
I am not scum doesn't cut it. You could be 3rd party. I am not scum is not a lie if you are a SK or some other shit. I am town. There now. Say it with me. I AM TOWN!.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 20:31 GMT
#932
On August 17 2011 05:23 redFF wrote:
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On August 17 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote:
We should not kill Bumatlarge

Has he been retarded? Yes


But just because someone is being dumb is not a reason to lynch him. For example, see almost every game I play. I always end up doing something dumb, and get lynched. But I always have the truest intentions.

The point is, bumatlarge hasn't been scummy, he's just been shady. And that's an important distinction. When seeing someone who's doing "off" things, we need to look at if they have a mafia INTENTION when they do it.

Would a mafia be so reckless and careless when defending himself? Not unless he has already given up, in which case we would've at least seen a defense from him intentionally.

Would a mafia have been so reckless as to FRICKIN NUKE KAVDRAGON? I mean seriously, that was just retarded.

I feel Bumatlarge is town just for the pure fact he hasn't acted mafiaesque. Yes he's acted shady, but remember the difference. He hasn't been extremely active to appear pro town. He hasn't been inactive either.

Furthormore, the fact that there has been no resistance to bumatlarge being lynched has me worried. I feel like mafia are just letting town mislynch again and again, while usually when a mafia gets lynched they always at least offer up a counter lynch.


I'm not sure exactly who to lynch, but I'm sure there are better options then bumatlarge. I'll analyze and report my findings soon.

wait if u think hes town why neutralize his role?

He said the same shit about Kurumi. I think he's town but I'm going to fuck him over anyways.
I think Bum is town but I'm gonna fuck him over too.
A lot of folks think Bum is scum and a fair few thought Kurumi might have been as well. But Pandain knows who is scum and who isn't. Why would a townie fuck over a fellow townie?
And I'm not talking about me having to post Kill BM all day long. I'm talking about actively using a role to remove the abilities of a person you think is town. Pandain is scum. Vote for him. Lynch him now.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 20:55 GMT
#942
On August 17 2011 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote:
We should not kill Bumatlarge

Has he been retarded? Yes


But just because someone is being dumb is not a reason to lynch him. For example, see almost every game I play. I always end up doing something dumb, and get lynched. But I always have the truest intentions.

The point is, bumatlarge hasn't been scummy, he's just been shady. And that's an important distinction. When seeing someone who's doing "off" things, we need to look at if they have a mafia INTENTION when they do it.

Would a mafia be so reckless and careless when defending himself? Not unless he has already given up, in which case we would've at least seen a defense from him intentionally.

Would a mafia have been so reckless as to FRICKIN NUKE KAVDRAGON? I mean seriously, that was just retarded.

I feel Bumatlarge is town just for the pure fact he hasn't acted mafiaesque. Yes he's acted shady, but remember the difference. He hasn't been extremely active to appear pro town. He hasn't been inactive either.

Furthormore, the fact that there has been no resistance to bumatlarge being lynched has me worried. I feel like mafia are just letting town mislynch again and again, while usually when a mafia gets lynched they always at least offer up a counter lynch.


I'm not sure exactly who to lynch, but I'm sure there are better options then bumatlarge. I'll analyze and report my findings soon.


So again you go off and use your abilities on someone you think is town? You did this on day one, then went all "kurumi is town".

What the hell man, I don't think there is any way around it, the reason you've been allowed to live is the assumption that if one lover dies the other one goes too, and I think Mig is town. But this shit is too much. I think we have our answer now.

you're the scummy fucker in this love relationship.

You're even defending your bumatlarge, which makes no sense for town to do at this point. There is no logic behind your defense of him, it just reeks of you having information you shouldn't have.

I'm switching my vote to you.

##Vote Pandain

Actually after reading Mig's last post I think Mig might be the scummy one. C'mon Mig say it with me. I AM TOWN!!!!!! If LSB is scum you have nothing to fear.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#949
On August 17 2011 05:58 Mig wrote:
Jackal are you actually reading my posts or this thread at all? If you are town and actually think I am scummy then you are hopeless. I am trying to keep the thread from being spammed like day 1 with everyone pointlessly writing I am town, when instead LSB can just ask whomever he wants to shoot to say it. But I will say it just to make you happy I am town.

I don't know what to make of anybody in the freakin game anymore. If either you or Pandain dies does the other die as well?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 16 2011 23:40 GMT
#961
If Aidnai had flipped scum I could have confirmed 2 personalities as town. Was not to be.

Curu - How do you pick the players you are defending?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 00:01 GMT
#966
On August 17 2011 08:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 08:40 Jackal58 wrote:
If Aidnai had flipped scum I could have confirmed 2 personalities as town. Was not to be.

Curu - How do you pick the players you are defending?


-_- read all the posts he's made its pretty straightforward

I have and no it isn't. The only thing I can connect it to is GMarshall defending the hell out of scum every day in XXXIV or some such game around then.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 00:03 GMT
#968
Back to reading.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 00:29 GMT
#971
On August 17 2011 09:10 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 08:40 Jackal58 wrote:
If Aidnai had flipped scum I could have confirmed 2 personalities as town. Was not to be.

Curu - How do you pick the players you are defending?


Mig has a short name I like him.

I don't think I need to explain why scumatlarge is scum. It should be hit-you-in-the-face obvious.

Go read VE's posts and notice how he doesn't comment on a single relevant thing this game. Made a few posts like he was convinced Kavdragon was Mafia, then switched to Aidnai instantly rather than argue at all. Doubt he cared which one was lynched, as they were both townies.

Now two nonsensical wagons out of nowhere when scumatlarge is on the block.

I don't disagree on the Bum analysis. I have read the VE posts. He's not doing a very good Coag.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 00:55 GMT
#976
On August 17 2011 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
And no one is curious as to how Node could 'confirm' me as Coag? No one at all? I find that's VERY relevant....because I haven't PM'd him OR Roleclaimed to him.

And what do YOU guys consider relevant anyway? We're ALL just poking around in the dark because the spam is covering up all the lights...why am I suddenly the useless one? I find bum to be just as scummy as the rest of you, but Node just (as far as I'M concerned) baldfaced-LIED to all of you about being able to 'confirm' me.

I'm waiting for him to provide an explanation. What would you like us to do?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 09:31 GMT
#1013
Is the nuke headed for Pandain or Bum?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 12:30 GMT
#1017
Why would day Vigs be scum? I'm including Pandain in this.
Why is Kav being nuked again and who did it?
Why do you have 2 votes redFF?
Palmar - Did you tell Sandroba VE is Coagulation?
Why the hell are we letting Node, LSB, RoL, Scamp, Sandroba, ~OPZ~, and Flamewheel get away with 1 post a day? Oh look - There's seven of them.
Where the fuck is Misder?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 12:48 GMT
#1020
My vote was on Pandain before you voted Pandain and then moved it to Bum. I didn't jump on anything. I think both are gong to end up being town. I think I'd rather see one of the 7 lurkers get lynched.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 14:20 GMT
#1025
Bum just voted for himself.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 14:26 GMT
#1027
VI with a V2????
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 17:37 GMT
#1040
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#1052
On August 18 2011 03:12 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 02:37 Jackal58 wrote:
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.

Reasons?

One does not simply walk into Mordor lynch someone randomly.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10855268

Nothing has changed.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#1055
On August 18 2011 03:53 deconduo wrote:
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On August 18 2011 03:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 18 2011 03:12 youngminii wrote:
On August 18 2011 02:37 Jackal58 wrote:
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.

Reasons?

One does not simply walk into Mordor lynch someone randomly.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10855268

Nothing has changed.


I'd be good with an LSB lynch.

Do it. Start with him and move through all the lurkers.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 19:05 GMT
#1059
On August 18 2011 04:01 youngminii wrote:
Well, I mean, he's not wrong that we're not actually meant to act/post like our personalities. You can for fun but when you take it to extremes (like all the spamming that was happening) WITHOUT a post restriction then that's just being anti-town.

I don't see what's scummy about wanting people to stop acting like their personalities and play properly.

On August 14 2011 05:41 Incognito wrote:
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On August 14 2011 02:56 Pandain wrote:
Just to clarify, you say you will be extremely strict on spammers. However, if a role indicates that you must spam, is there a limit to the amount they will do?

Can we play as ourselves or are we encouraged/supposed to become our personality.


No roles mandate spam.

You are encouraged to become your personality, as that is a large part of this game.

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 19:46 GMT
#1068
On August 18 2011 04:08 youngminii wrote:
You are encouraged to become your personality. It is fun to do it.

What if you're given the role of someone like Kenpachi or Bill Murray? Are you meant to become a hardcore lurker/angry man? No, I think it's much more wise to toss the encouragement aside when town is becoming a shithole and man up by playing to your win condition. I don't care if you play like your personality as long as it doesn't get in the way of town.

That's my stance, and it sure as hell isn't scummy to think this way.

But you are Kenpachi!
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 00:11 GMT
#1096
We just quit for the night????
Can we get a current vote count please?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 00:43 GMT
#1099
On August 18 2011 09:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Looks like I only have 13, and a few people are spread all over or havent voted

All you need is 13. 25 people remain.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 00:44 GMT
#1101
Nevermind I missed redFF
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 12:13 GMT
#1173
I actually agree with some of them Curu but damn this is funny shit.
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 18 2011 13:25 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 21:48 Jackal58 wrote:
My vote was on Pandain before you voted Pandain and then moved it to Bum. I didn't jump on anything. I think both are gong to end up being town. I think I'd rather see one of the 7 lurkers get lynched.


oh lawd Jackal is so scum


On August 18 2011 13:23 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 06:35 redFF wrote:
On August 17 2011 06:20 Palmar wrote:
screw it, there's a hole in the logic.

##Unvote
##Vote Bumatlarge


Pandain's defending of Bumatlarge does not make any sense whatsoever if Pandain is red and Bumatlarge green.

If Pandain is red and Bumatlarge green, what's the motivation behind trying to actively push a lynch away from town that was almost surely going to be lynched? Why on earth would he put his neck out to try to stop a lynch on town?

What I think is happening here is that they're both red, but they realized that if Pandain gets lynched now, Bumatlarge looks really good. If Bumatlarge gets lynched now, Pandain is still under heavy suspicion.

Voila, make a scummy defense post, give Bumatlarge a fuckton of town-credit, bus one scum, and you're good to go. Losing Pandain at this point for the scumteam is the optimal play since Bumatlarge was going to get lynched.

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redFF is scum.


On August 18 2011 13:22 Curu wrote:
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On August 17 2011 12:28 Node wrote:
On August 17 2011 12:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 17 2011 11:46 ghrur wrote:
On August 17 2011 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm curious as to how Node could confirm that I'm Coagulation. Is anyone else curious? I did PM Jackal and Palmar, who said as much when THEY confirmed that I'm Coagulation...but Node just said 'I can confirm it' and voted for me. I never PM'd Node, and I never role-claimed to Node.

##Vote: Node

...until an explanation is received.


How did you PM Jackal and Palmar when no PMs are allowed?


Role.


Bullshit.


Node is scum.


On August 18 2011 12:45 Curu wrote:
Syllo needs to die too. He's 100% scum.


On August 18 2011 12:43 Curu wrote:
Actually we are fixing this atmosphere. All the people refusing to contribute go.

BC, Node, Scamp must all die. Anyone that's a Vig, fire away. Any alive, tomorrow's lynch.


On August 18 2011 13:21 Curu wrote:
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On August 18 2011 01:59 tnkted wrote:
Hey if, hypothetically, we were to have a list checker, and I'm not crazy about lynching bum, would it make sense for me to vote pandain so that the list checker can have a better list of people to check, depending on bum's flip? Or should I vote bum to make it easier?


tnkted is scum.


I'm town dude. Forgive me for thinking scum wouldn't have a day vig that outs himself.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 12:35 GMT
#1176
How do you know Curu is townie Twinkles? Something you'd like to share with us studmuffin?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 18:02 GMT
#1196
On August 19 2011 02:40 redFF wrote:
Jackal had to get a town player lynched, why would a town player have to do that? Curu's list is bs and he's just talking out his ass with no evidence to back it up. The only case I get at this stage is LSB and I agree he is likely mafia. Node is suspicious too, wouldn't mind a shot on him.

VOTE ME FOR MAYOR BECAUSE I AM FUCKING TOWN.

Listen up dummy. This is the last time I'm going to explain this to you. I DID NOT HAVE TO GET KURUMI/BILL MURRAY LYNCHED. I had to post my desire for his death when it became apparent who he was "no matter what". Method did not matter. I received no benefit from him dying. I stated this numerous times. It would make no difference to me one way or another if he were still in the game. But you guys would still be getting a constant barrage of "Kill Kurumi/BM" posts from me. Got it yet? Good.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 18:04 GMT
#1197
On August 19 2011 02:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On August 18 2011 21:18 Palmar wrote:
Given the VisceraEyes situation i'm inclined to think Jackal is town.


What's the VE situation, is this why you think he's town? Did I miss something?

Also, RedFF scummy, leaning town on Jackal.

Not sure what to make of tnkted.

VE role claimed to both of us. It's part of his Coag persona.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 23:22 GMT
#1208
On August 19 2011 08:14 youngminii wrote:
Also, I might have just missed this information (probably) but I can't seem to find it:

Why does RedFF have 2 votes?
Why was RedFF constantly campaigning for mayor but not anymore? Was Foolishness his only opposition regarding being the mayor?
What does the mayor get to do?

I asked that yesterday and got no answer.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 18 2011 23:53 GMT
#1210
On August 19 2011 08:52 redFF wrote:
meh i think its fairly obvious if you have read the thread. i only had 1 day 1 because somebody stole them. There is no way for me to gain a vote tho. i have 2 for use each day.

And you say my posting restriction was scummy.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 16:20 GMT
#1362
I'm not even going to pretend to be able to read Palmar. However his smurf screamed scum early on and nobody picked up on it.

On August 14 2011 01:10 BarBaPoPPa wrote:
I don't think we should link the roles to alignments, if that was the case the game could be half-broken by just forcing mass-claim on day one, don't even need to claim the actual roles, just the names.

I don't think Ver/Incog would've balanced the game in a way that allowed it to be easily broken like that, so for now it probably should be ignored.

Only scum would say this. If I find a way to break a game so town wins I'm doing it.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 16:24 GMT
#1363
On August 20 2011 01:20 Node wrote:
It's worth noting that Palmar was in the "PM circle" with VE (who I still think is scum) and Jackal (who has been conspicuously quiet and non-opinionated lately).

I am in no PM circle with Palmar. VE has contacted me but I have never talked to Palmar nor has VE mentioned him to me. And if we were all scum wtf would we need a PM circle for?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 16:55 GMT
#1367
On August 20 2011 01:42 Curu wrote:
I need to go over it in my head first. I'll explain if I can convince myself.

Shouldn't be hard. You're easily convinced.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 18:59 GMT
#1401
And I thought the other game I was in was fubared.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 20:35 GMT
#1414
I am now dead in Werewolves. My concentration can now be returned fully to this cluster fuck.

Wtf are you doing Kita? This festering pus boil of a thread is hard enough to sift through without the addition of that bullshit.
BC - How do you come to the conclusion I'm scum. Don't hide behind a lame ass post restriction answer the question.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 21:03 GMT
#1420
On August 20 2011 06:00 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:55 youngminii wrote:
Curu, I assure you that I very much believe you're town (note: my opinion is subject to change) but I disagree with many of your opinions, I want to elaborate further. As for this being a winnable game, I'd go as far as to say that game is ours to lose, if we don't mess up badly we should win pretty convincingly.

In any case, I believe kita is townish. I am undecided about tnkted.


That's fair, who would you call scummy then?

Jackal revealed his post restriction but according to him wasn't punished at all for it.

I did so prior to Incog telling us we were not allowed. I had no idea it was prohibited.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 19 2011 21:04 GMT
#1421
I probably won't be back until tomorrow morning. If I do post again tonight there is a good chance it will be incoherent.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 03:25 GMT
#1451
On August 20 2011 10:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 10:07 youngminii wrote:
it's not bad form, incog specifically said not to do it, hence it being against the rules
which is why i'm confused as to why nothing's been done
this will be my last post on this (for now) because i feel it's filling up the thread with this irrelevant talk, but still i'm beginning to entertain the idea that incog/ver's silence is itself an acknowledgement that your post restriction claim was fake


You can think it all you want, but after the game ends and I am right you will cry about being wrong.....again.

Don't call someone out to play and contribute then bash them for the only way to specifically do so. If you want I can go back to roleplaying my personality and following all restrictions to a T and then once again the town rages at how I'm not contributing. Take your pick.

Lol. Pot calling the kettle black.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 19:49 GMT
#1467
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 20 2011 23:28 Misder wrote:

Also, thread doesn't seem like its moving as fast as it has been after Palmar gave up, which seems to suggest that anyone that was trying to move the thread on either days and stopped may be scummy. No idea who that would entail, but my mind is thinking Jackal58.

What exactly are you trying to say here? And how do you only have 3 posts in this entire game?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 20 2011 22:42 GMT
#1470
On August 21 2011 07:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 03:36 Incognito wrote:
On August 21 2011 02:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

Role PM descriptions will not be given out until after the game is over. Only alignment and personality will be given.

Would a traitor come up as the alignment of black or green?

Traitor flips black.

Also, Qatol will be helping me host while Ver is moving.

Are there any third parties in the game, or is BC a traitor?

Modkill post calls him a traitor.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 21 2011 14:00 GMT
#1500
On August 21 2011 22:47 tnkted wrote:
Oh by the way, tomorrows gonna be really short, just letting yall know

?????
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 21 2011 19:09 GMT
#1508
On August 22 2011 03:52 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 03:44 redFF wrote:
On August 22 2011 03:19 syllogism wrote:
Sandroba is a ridiculously bad lynch. He spent day 1 voluntarily talking to me, and apparently a few others who know him well, over skype, which is something scumdroba would never do. Feel free to yell wifom, but it's just not a risk worth taking and in XLIII as scum he was much more reserved and inactive on skype, while here he came across genuine. Moreoever, Ver's power is, regardless of alignment, way too powerful not to be utilized. It's very unlikely that he is just faking the RB.

LOLWUT THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID DAY 1 OF TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA. YOU WERE TALKING TO HIM DAY 1 OF TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA. THERE WAS A HUGE LOG POSTED OF YOUR GUYS CONVERSATION IN TEAM FORTRESS MAFIA.

VOTE ME FOR MAYOR FFS.


sorry for caps.

You don't know him as well as I do; he wasn't talking much in that "huge log" and in addition he never talked to me in private, merely in that group conversation. Moreover, he was stuck talking to us at least a bit because not talking at all is suspicious given that we normally talk a lot, but this isn't a PM game, so he could have just chosen not to initiate PMs with me.

I thought he had PM'd damn near everybody?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 00:03 GMT
#1516
Ya tnkted don't do that. That only benefits scum.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 02:01 GMT
#1525
On August 22 2011 10:56 Curu wrote:
After tnkted, kitaman would be my next top suspect for scum. I'd throw Jackal in there as well because he's been practically invisible in this game, whereas his Town play in Werewolves was so much more aggressive and assertive. He was also a big part of the switch off bum movement day 2.

I was much more aggressive and assertive because you derps were lynching me for invisible PMs that didn't exist.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 02:15 GMT
#1529
On August 22 2011 10:53 Curu wrote:
I strongly feel tnkted scum. There is no reason for a Townie to have that power, there is no reason for a Townie to think about using that power. He has been utterly useless while trying to appear to be useful. He has had no opinion on Scamp or Node, and yet wants to use his power to get one of them lynched.

Mafia must have had a mechanic to locate the Traitor. The two people with known PM mechanics are VE and sandroba. Of the two, I would much rather kill VE.

Twinkles just loves to claim when he's town.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 02:16 GMT
#1530
On August 22 2011 11:14 ghrur wrote:
And nobody has yet answered how Node could CONFIRM VE's claims. Doesn't that strike anybody as suspicious?

Very much so.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 03:04 GMT
#1543
Fuck Syllogism.
Watch me. For the lulz!!!!!!!
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 03:05 GMT
#1544
On August 22 2011 12:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
jackal58 tnkted syllogism VisceraEyes

You can't lynch me. I'm dead.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 03:22 GMT
#1548


Gl hf.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 22 2011 17:04 GMT
#1610
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 00:20 GMT
#1624
1. Pandain
2. Youngminii
3. Flamewheel
4. Barundar
5. Misder
6. Mr. Wiggles
7. Kenpachi
8. Kitaman27
9. Node
10. ghrur
11. Scamp

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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 13:38 GMT
#1668
I couldn't do anything relevant. Even when Kurumi new I had a post restriction (And sorry I had no idea we weren't allowed to reveal that) he wouldn't let it go. So every post I made unleashed 5 posts of spam. I'm sorry.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 14:13 GMT
#1671
I was a vig. I had to lynch a townie to get a bullet though. After BM and Ace flipped town I stopped even thinking about it. I suicided on Sandroba because I figured A) He told the truth and he had a body guard and mafia were role blocking him or B) He was lying and was scum. I figured either way I'd kill some scum.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 14:32 GMT
#1676
I was counting on my suicide to take out a visiting scum. Didn't know who it would be but I got one. My biggest fear was a medic was on him too. I was pretty sure I was going to be the next days lynch any ways. 2 or 3 people had already put me on their scum lists. Of course they were all scum but.....
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 15:06 GMT
#1678
Didn't have any bullets. Any vig action I did involved a 1-1 trade if my target was right. And by the looks of my scum guesses odds are I would have shot a townie anyways. It was really my only shot at killing scum.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 16:43 GMT
#1685
Nobody in this game was freakin' town.
Except me of course......
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 23 2011 19:11 GMT
#1690
I'd love a do over with out the post restrictions or with the ability to claim your post restriction.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 24 2011 01:00 GMT
#1703
On August 24 2011 09:50 Qatol wrote:
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On August 24 2011 09:34 Mig wrote:
Qatol I don't think you guys took into account how badly PRs damage the town and how much they help the mafia when really balancing. Like YM can't accuse anyone who hasn't accused him. How is he supposed to do any analysis? Sandroba can only post 5 times a cycle. So one of the best town players is nearly removed from the game. How is the town supposed to be able to get any read on things like that? Especially day 1. So much time has to be devoted into personality hunting and PR hunting just to have any clue about whats going on instead of actually looking for scum.

Sandroba had unlimited PM abilities. Get your read on him via PM. Plus he could have used someone as a mouth. I agree that YM's restriction was harsh, but that still doesn't excuse the town for ignoring the scum in front of their faces.

Having a townie flip red didn't help. That destroyed our confidence in who was scum. Sandroba being roleblocked neutered him.
And c'mon a vig that has to lynch townies to get a bullet? Or a suicide bomber that can only hit 1 person that is also a townie.
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Jackal58
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August 24 2011 02:45 GMT
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On August 24 2011 10:33 Qatol wrote:
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On August 24 2011 10:00 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 24 2011 09:50 Qatol wrote:
On August 24 2011 09:34 Mig wrote:
Qatol I don't think you guys took into account how badly PRs damage the town and how much they help the mafia when really balancing. Like YM can't accuse anyone who hasn't accused him. How is he supposed to do any analysis? Sandroba can only post 5 times a cycle. So one of the best town players is nearly removed from the game. How is the town supposed to be able to get any read on things like that? Especially day 1. So much time has to be devoted into personality hunting and PR hunting just to have any clue about whats going on instead of actually looking for scum.

Sandroba had unlimited PM abilities. Get your read on him via PM. Plus he could have used someone as a mouth. I agree that YM's restriction was harsh, but that still doesn't excuse the town for ignoring the scum in front of their faces.

Having a townie flip red didn't help. That destroyed our confidence in who was scum. Sandroba being roleblocked neutered him.
And c'mon a vig that has to lynch townies to get a bullet? Or a suicide bomber that can only hit 1 person that is also a townie.

Things never should have gotten that far to begin with. You relied too much upon your reads relating to bum. Sandroba never should have roleclaimed the way he did. He was just begging to get roleblocked. And even if he does, he's 1 townie. It just means someone else has to step up. It means all of you have to do the work and not just rely upon a small core of people + the investigative roles. If the mafia want to commit to roleblocking Sandroba, that means they cannot roleblock anyone else with that ability. That is an opportunity for the town.

Think of your role as a mitigation role just in case the town is wrong on one of a few players. Your role had the most potential KP out of any town role. It's supposed to keep the town in the game if they happen to bandwagon some players incorrectly.

After Kurumi flipped town when he was vigi'd (Still don't know why that happened) I figured the rest on my list were also town. If any of them came up as a serious lynch candidate I would have tried to prevent it. Was never an issue. They were all scum kills. When i suicided on Sandroba I was hoping for the best case scenario. Role blocker plus a hitman. I only got a role blocker. Turned it into a 2 for 1. 2nd best case was Sandroba was scum it it was a 1 for 1. Ya I got the 2 townies for 1 scum scenario. Was still better than my worse case scenario of 2 townies and no scum
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