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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 17 2011 17:45 GMT
#1041
On August 18 2011 02:26 Curu wrote:
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On August 18 2011 02:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am going to tell you all right now, both are bad lynches and a no lynch would be preferable. On that note, I will be voting for someone random right now.


So you somehow know the results of every lynch (today and yesterday), while contributing nothing to suggest a better target or anything?

Can we lynch RoL instead?


Yeah RoL, where did you're

On August 16 2011 13:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On August 16 2011 13:09 ghrur wrote:
My statement wasn't "guilt." It was a "whatever."
Btw, I vigied Kurumi so we wouldn't have a spamfest anymore.

I fucking love you. I can now start actually contributing. I am heading to sleep, but I will catch up tomorrow and apply rape where necessary.


"actually contributing" go?

On another note, I'd like to bring up the topic of VisceraEyes.

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On August 14 2011 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
You guys are so cute, all trying to measure your penises by role-claiming. I'd do the same, but...nah. Luckily you guys are all doing it all for me, so I can rest easy knowing how my role compares with yours. Hopefully you'll forgive my NOT being forthcoming with information that if made public will ultimately benefit Mafia more than it will benefit town (if it benefits town at all.)

After reading through the thread, the following generalizations can be made regarding this game so far:


1) It's hard to find anyone scumhunting at all. It's happening, but you have to really look close.

2) The spam is ridiculous, and I'm not just talking about the pictures and bullshit. The fact that we're still all wondering if Kurumi is Bill Murray IN THREAD is....well, it's fucking retarded. He either is or isn't, and no one is listening to him, so if you think he's a VI don't vote for him and if you think he's scum then do. He's not harming town aside from the spam he's causing. Jackal is spamming about killing him too. It's all nonsense and it's not helping us find scum.

3) There are still a lot of people not participating. This is troubling. I don't care how you slice it.

4) Role-playing is fun. So is Mafia.

Now, I'm going to task myself with rereading the thread IN ITS ENTIRETY. This is a colossal task, mainly because all the spam is hard to swallow. When I post again, I'm going to give my thoughts on the people I find most likely to be scum. I'd encourage EVERYONE to do the same. Please keep in mind that I'm not asking you to go through the posts of the ONE person you're trying to get lynched. I'm asking you to reread the WHOLE thread, and post about EVERYONE you think is likely to be scum.

D1 is half over. If the town keeps doing this, we're fucking doomed. I wish I could say tonight was going to be a wake-up call...but peoples' powers are not revealed on death...only their personality and alignment. Tonight is only going to make tomorrow more difficult. I hope everyone realizes this. Scum are going to be able to claim whatever the fuck they want. They already have.


On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.

Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.

##Vote: Kavdragon

On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:
First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda.

Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point.

I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source.

I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned.

On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.

Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.

##Vote: Kavdragon


This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case.


It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious.

On August 15 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, fair points guys...I hadn't really thought of it that way. The spammy feeling of his posts had me prejudging him. Aidnai looked more like a distraction than an actual suspect, and his behavior HAS been suspicious, I'll freely admit.

I'm convinced. I'll also vote aidnai.




He promised to read the whole thread and come up with a good lynch to push... but instead he seemed to have just stuck with the same old, already argued by that point, lynch of Kavdragon. This was supposedly the "people" he found most likely to be scum, yes, one person in Kavdragon. You think with that sort of effort, he'd be convinced in Kavdragon right? He even argues ardently for Kav's lynch the next post... but no, two posts later he changes to aidnai. So we have:
1. Faking contribution
2. Wishy-washiness.

He also has some, to take the words of Curu, inherent guilt.
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On August 15 2011 10:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Guys, do what you want. I'm not going to come on here and say 'Nuh uh' about all these people saying my posts are scummy....

On August 17 2011 02:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Of course I'm not playing pro-town, are you reading the thread? I'm lurking like a bastard and have until now been VERY hesitant to share my suspicions with the rest of town. I mean, I've made a couple of pro-town observations, but even those have been mostly empty and contentless. I don't blame ANYONE who thinks I'm scum at this point...but I'm not.



Oh, and he seems to have a clear reluctance at giving out information.

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On August 17 2011 12:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On August 17 2011 11:46 ghrur wrote:
On August 17 2011 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm curious as to how Node could confirm that I'm Coagulation. Is anyone else curious? I did PM Jackal and Palmar, who said as much when THEY confirmed that I'm Coagulation...but Node just said 'I can confirm it' and voted for me. I never PM'd Node, and I never role-claimed to Node.

##Vote: Node

...until an explanation is received.


How did you PM Jackal and Palmar when no PMs are allowed?


Role.



Only redeeming feature seems to be his "pressure," but even then he backs off quite quickly without causing any commotion.
darkness overpowering
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 17 2011 17:56 GMT
#1042
VisceraEyes is not scum goddamnit.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 17 2011 17:56 GMT
#1043
rol could very well be.
Computer says mafia
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 17 2011 18:12 GMT
#1044
On August 18 2011 02:37 Jackal58 wrote:
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.

Reasons?

One does not simply walk into Mordor lynch someone randomly.
lalala
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 17 2011 18:13 GMT
#1045
On August 18 2011 02:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am going to tell you all right now, both are bad lynches and a no lynch would be preferable. On that note, I will be voting for someone random right now.


We're not nolynching. I know you have a post restriction, but maybe you could communicate to someone via PMs and have them post your suspicions or whatever.


Actually, that goes for everyone with posting restrictions. PM your shit to sandroba and let him post it if you have something important to town but can't post due to role.


Since nobody has responded to my question, I'm gonna just #vote pandain
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 17 2011 18:20 GMT
#1046
On August 18 2011 02:56 Palmar wrote:
VisceraEyes is not scum goddamnit.


Why not?

On August 18 2011 03:13 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 02:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am going to tell you all right now, both are bad lynches and a no lynch would be preferable. On that note, I will be voting for someone random right now.


We're not nolynching. I know you have a post restriction, but maybe you could communicate to someone via PMs and have them post your suspicions or whatever.


Actually, that goes for everyone with posting restrictions. PM your shit to sandroba and let him post it if you have something important to town but can't post due to role.


Since nobody has responded to my question, I'm gonna just #vote pandain


I thought sandroba was RBed so can't PM.
darkness overpowering
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 17 2011 18:23 GMT
#1047
On August 18 2011 02:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I am going to tell you all right now, both are bad lynches and a no lynch would be preferable. On that note, I will be voting for someone random right now.


Yes they are bad lynches, but no lynching is worse. Even if bum flips town (as he probably will) we get a bit of information from it. No lynching just gives mafia free kills for nothing.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 17 2011 18:23 GMT
#1048
Pretty sure people with posting restrictions ARE NOT allowed to PM it to sandroba. That would essentially break the entire purpose.

I don't get why RoL prefers a no lynch. No lynches are pretty fucking terrible for town.
lalala
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#1049
sup I came here to use my after-death power (just kidding)
how's everyone?
bad?
that's how I describe town these days
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 17 2011 18:35 GMT
#1050
On August 18 2011 03:23 youngminii wrote:
I don't get why RoL prefers a no lynch. No lynches are pretty fucking terrible for town.


I think you answered your own question.
Computer says mafia
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 17 2011 18:48 GMT
#1051
On August 18 2011 03:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 03:23 youngminii wrote:
I don't get why RoL prefers a no lynch. No lynches are pretty fucking terrible for town.


I think you answered your own question.

lalala
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 18:52 GMT
#1052
On August 18 2011 03:12 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 02:37 Jackal58 wrote:
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.

Reasons?

One does not simply walk into Mordor lynch someone randomly.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10855268

Nothing has changed.
Life can only kill you once.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 17 2011 18:53 GMT
#1053
On August 18 2011 03:52 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 03:12 youngminii wrote:
On August 18 2011 02:37 Jackal58 wrote:
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.

Reasons?

One does not simply walk into Mordor lynch someone randomly.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10855268

Nothing has changed.


I'd be good with an LSB lynch.
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
August 17 2011 18:59 GMT
#1054
I think the reason RoL prefers a no-lynch is because he thinks both lynches are terrible for town. I don't think it's anti-town to think this way. It's not useful to complain and do nothing with it, but mafia would just jump on either lynch and then go with that.

I agree that the Bumatlarge lynch is bad and the only positive is that Palmar will give himself up if he flips town, which I believe he will.

I am very confident that Youngminii is scum based on his actions over the past few pages.


I said I'd vote Pandain if he didn't ban me. He didn't ban me. I will switch over to the LSB wagon if that gains any steam, though.
Cheese is good for you!
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#1055
On August 18 2011 03:53 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 03:52 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 18 2011 03:12 youngminii wrote:
On August 18 2011 02:37 Jackal58 wrote:
I'd be down with lynching LSB instead.

Reasons?

One does not simply walk into Mordor lynch someone randomly.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10855268

Nothing has changed.


I'd be good with an LSB lynch.

Do it. Start with him and move through all the lurkers.
Life can only kill you once.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#1056
Well, I mean, he's not wrong that we're not actually meant to act/post like our personalities. You can for fun but when you take it to extremes (like all the spamming that was happening) WITHOUT a post restriction then that's just being anti-town.

I don't see what's scummy about wanting people to stop acting like their personalities and play properly.
lalala
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 17 2011 19:01 GMT
#1057
@Scamp: Such as?
lalala
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 17 2011 19:04 GMT
#1058
On August 18 2011 03:59 Scamp wrote:
I think the reason RoL prefers a no-lynch is because he thinks both lynches are terrible for town. I don't think it's anti-town to think this way. It's not useful to complain and do nothing with it, but mafia would just jump on either lynch and then go with that.

I agree that the Bumatlarge lynch is bad and the only positive is that Palmar will give himself up if he flips town, which I believe he will.

I am very confident that Youngminii is scum based on his actions over the past few pages.


I said I'd vote Pandain if he didn't ban me. He didn't ban me. I will switch over to the LSB wagon if that gains any steam, though.


It's scummy as fuck when you offer no alternative.
wat
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
August 17 2011 19:05 GMT
#1059
On August 18 2011 04:01 youngminii wrote:
Well, I mean, he's not wrong that we're not actually meant to act/post like our personalities. You can for fun but when you take it to extremes (like all the spamming that was happening) WITHOUT a post restriction then that's just being anti-town.

I don't see what's scummy about wanting people to stop acting like their personalities and play properly.

On August 14 2011 05:41 Incognito wrote:
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On August 14 2011 02:56 Pandain wrote:
Just to clarify, you say you will be extremely strict on spammers. However, if a role indicates that you must spam, is there a limit to the amount they will do?

Can we play as ourselves or are we encouraged/supposed to become our personality.


No roles mandate spam.

You are encouraged to become your personality, as that is a large part of this game.

Life can only kill you once.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 17 2011 19:07 GMT
#1060
Well I don't think no-lynching is a good thing. I'm not sure about an LSB lynch but I'm all for a pandain lynch still. I'll switch back to myself if I need to in the end.
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