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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 01 2011 02:59 GMT
#10
NICE AND NORMAL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

/in
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 01 2011 04:44 GMT
#16
On August 01 2011 12:11 Varpulis wrote:
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On August 01 2011 11:59 OriginalName wrote:
NICE AND NORMAL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

/in

Everybody flood OriginalName with PMs about King Kong to give the game a more exotic feel.


Anybody who does this is auto-scum.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 01 2011 19:03 GMT
#78
/confirm
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 01 2011 20:25 GMT
#102
On August 02 2011 05:02 Varpulis wrote:
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On August 02 2011 05:01 syllogism wrote:
You stole my post, but let me re-emphasize that days have 48 hours

which means that we don't need to start killing people 6 hours into the day *cough cough* youngminii *cough cough*


Please this
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 01 2011 23:36 GMT
#154
On August 02 2011 07:44 Trotske wrote:
why not pm...?


This involves claiming.

PM claiming = bad.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#205
On August 02 2011 09:42 sandroba wrote:
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On August 02 2011 09:30 chaos13 wrote:
On August 02 2011 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

has nothing to do with fake claims in fact the fake mafia claims are the only part of the plan that i like that i think would be advantageous too bad the day vig will just get smoked night 1 and none of this will matter


There's many things that have the potential to go wrong. Regardless, I agree with you. At it's heart, it's not a bad plan, there are just far too many things that can cause it to be detrimental, and I would be much more comfortable with our blues using their powers as they see fit as individuals. By all means, discuss with a town circle if you can get one going, but until that point, think for yourself.

The point of mass claim to a confirmed townie is to force mafia to fake claim and the dayvig can sort the actions of the blues in a reduced pool of players, confirming the blues and eliminating suspicious people from the right pool. If mafia roleclaims medic even better, the day vig asks for a prot on himself and the mafia can't shoot him, profit. Things can go wrong either way, having an organized plan is better than no plan at all.


The entirety of this is almost based purely on blue roles. This needs to get in your head Sand, there is only 4 mafia. There is no way were going to have 1-2 vigilantes and a medic. Its straight up imbalanced.

In the past few games we've been less reliant on blue roles and won, you want to abuse PMs and the assumption we have such roles to win, this is just going backwards. The fact that you came up with a plan is fine, but you need to come to the realization it is in most cases unrealistic.

Day-vigs should shoot whenever they are certain they have caught onto scum, they should mention it subtly in thread with decent evidence before they shoot but they should not shoot unless:

-It is increadably scummy player who just will not be lynched. (THIS IS YOUR JOB. THIS IS THE OBVIOUSLY SCUMMY PLAYER THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS FAIRLY SURE IS TOWN BUT IS OBVIOUSLY MISLEADING US)
-Lurker.
-People start to say "Yeah hes scummy but this person is more scummy"

Its fine for Day-vigis to do a cleaning role like a night vigilante would. Dont be a hero, you might town and turn out exactly the way you do not want to be. If you wish to claim before you shoot fine, but remember MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS BECAUSE SCUM MIGHT BE TRYING TO MAKE THEM FOR YOU.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 02:34 GMT
#206
On August 02 2011 08:57 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 02 2011 08:41 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote RedFF

Opposing sand's plan with no real reasons while defending himself like a mad man in IRC when he has no real reason to defend himself yet.

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[00:01] <alanismorisette> love is like a roll of tape
[00:01] <alanismorisette> real good for makin 2 things one
[00:02] <mig__> red making bad jokes at the start of games is a scum tell
[00:03] <alanismorisette> ...
[00:03] <alanismorisette> I DO THAT EVERY GAME
[00:03] <alanismorisette> WHY DO PPL THINK THAT MAKES ME SCUM
[00:03] <mig__> maybe you just always seem scummy
[00:05] <alanismorisette> ...
[00:11] <Lucidity> as a former scum buddy of red's
[00:11] <Lucidity> I can confirm that he is scum this game
[00:12] <mig__> what do you think of sandroba's plan lucid?
[00:14] <Lucidity> i was going to suggest the same thing
[00:15] <Lucidity> but we need to discuss it a bit more to ascertain whether the reward outweighs the risks
[00:15] <Lucidity> if the day vig knows what he's doing I think it could be quite effective
[00:15] <mig__> yea
[00:16] <mig__> I think the positives far out weight the negatives
[00:17] <Lucidity> we'll have to assume that some mafia will fake claim
[00:18] <Lucidity> not doing so would be detrimental to them
[00:18] <mig__> yes I think that is the best part
[00:18] <mig__> is the possibility of them fucking up the fake claims
[00:18] <Lucidity> But which fake claims have the potential to be hurtful to town?
[00:18] <Drazerk> not sure how they can fake claim
[00:18] <mig__> if an abnormal amount of roles are claimed it should be obvious to the day vig something is up
[00:18] <Lucidity> only medic as far as i can see
[00:19] <Lucidity> fake everything else only helps town in the long run
[00:19] <mig__> well the mafias plan will likely be fake claim today then shoot day vig tonight
[00:19] <mig__> just want to fake long enough that the day vig doesnt have them killed in the night
[00:19] <Drazerk> which is why the day vig will need medic protection
[00:23] <Lucidity> does dochelvetica ever use punctuation?
[00:23] <Lucidity> I find myself out of breath reading his posts
[00:32] <alanismorisette> ...
[00:32] <alanismorisette> lol
[00:34] <Curu> redFF made no jokes at the start of PTP
[00:34] <Curu> and he was Town
[00:35] <Curu> COINCIDENCE?
[00:36] <alanismorisette> ...
[00:36] <alanismorisette> didnt i make jokes?
[00:36] <alanismorisette> i did
[00:36] <alanismorisette> give me the wand imo
[00:36] <alanismorisette> that was one
[00:36] <alanismorisette> and i kept tlpdizing everything
[00:37] <alanismorisette> thats why lanaia
[00:37] <mig__> great jokes
[00:37] <mig__> red are you actually trying to defend yourself on whether you made jokes or not?


The fact that he is defending him so hard for such a simple joke is retarded. He is now fully on board with the Sand plan after he realizes how scummy it makes him look for opposing the idea and now is defending himself even more because of my pressure vote.

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[00:48] <alanismorisette> hey draz
[00:48] <alanismorisette> reasonless votes not good
[00:48] <alanismorisette> post the irc chat
[00:48] <alanismorisette> s
[00:48] <alanismorisette> so people can see ur reasoning
[00:48] <alanismorisette> Drazerk:
[00:49] <Drazerk> want me to copy the IRC for you then?
[00:49] <Drazerk> I will do it lol
[00:49] <alanismorisette> yeah
[00:49] <alanismorisette> please
[00:49] <alanismorisette> if you're gonna vote
[00:49] <alanismorisette> show people the evidnece
[00:49] <alanismorisette> also
[00:49] <alanismorisette> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=8#147
[00:49] <alanismorisette> that is why this plan on day 1 double lynch is terrible
[00:50] <Drazerk> I am not jumping on a bandwagon
[00:50] <alanismorisette> the day when we are most likely to lynch town is when we should double lynch!
[00:50] <alanismorisette> yay!
[00:51] <Drazerk> we have actually got a decent track record day 1 at the moment
[00:51] <Drazerk> when we kill you
[00:51] <Drazerk> we will have a even better one
[00:51] <alanismorisette> Drazerk: pleaes tell me why im scum
[00:51] <alanismorisette> please
[00:51] <alanismorisette> just make one post
[00:51] <alanismorisette> on the thread


Oh wait never mind now he hates the plan again... such wishy washy play with no real decision making.

Red Is scum


So your evidence on Red is:

-Hes sort of wishy-washy (I SORT of see it, i really dont see where he starts thinking the plan is a good idea before going back on it)

-Jokes (wtf who uses this as evidence?)

- Hes defending himself much more than he should (Which is probably the only valid point here.)

I fail to see how this has made you determine he is without a doubt scum.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 02:41 GMT
#208
On August 02 2011 11:41 Sevryn wrote:
whats the irc we are using tlmafia?


#Loonybin
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 03:26 GMT
#211
On August 02 2011 11:50 snotboogie wrote:
/in if I can!


way late dude.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 13:07 GMT
#224
On August 02 2011 15:54 Barundar wrote:
ebwodp:

Are you against the plan because it is relying on blue roles, or because of the setup?


More the latter than the former

On August 02 2011 18:01 syllogism wrote:
There are likely 5-6 blues in this setup and if the confirmed townie is any good it's quite easy for him to look at the claimed blues and deduce which claims are unlikely due to balance concerns. I would expect at most one to fake claim. There is no way there's more than one day vig, and unless we find a a compelling target today I don't think it's worthwhile to "waste" the shot today just to mass claim today rather than, say, tomorrow when there's more information and likely time if we proceed immediately. We can just go ahead with the mass claim plan once we get a confirmed townie and personally I think that's ideally tomorrow.


There is no way in hell there is 5-6 blues when there is only 4 scum players. If there are it is probably similer to maybe a night vigi+half/half Vigi a vet or two and a Dt/Medic. And that even seems like alot, when its a smallish scum team theres no way a quarter of us are going to be power roles especially when vigilantes get two bullets. This is the huge part, our vigilantes are not one shot like they usually are, they are two which gives us 4 night kp if there are two.

There is no way we are going to have enough vigilante shots to win without a lynch (although that would be a perfect scenario if we hit all 4 shots.)
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 13:17 GMT
#226
On August 02 2011 22:10 syllogism wrote:
Why not? There are frequently 7-8 blues with only 6 scum and for instance hatters are worse than in a standard setup. 6 is probably too high though


I've stated my reasons, why do you continue on asking me the same question?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 19:25 GMT
#252
On August 03 2011 03:23 Varpulis wrote:
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On August 03 2011 02:43 Mig wrote:
Varp every post you make screams wishy washy to me. Where is the confident Varpulis I have played with in the past? Every opinion you give you list the pros and cons and then you end up taking a pretty neutral stance. I haven't seen you have a strong opinion of anything yet.

If you had to vote for someone right now who would it be for and why? Do you find anyone besides red scummy?

I got called out for wishy washiness in PTP (day 1) as well. Day 1 nothing is solid, there's rarely anything to base arguments off of until late in the day, and I'm usually focused on proving my activity, not calling people scum. I haven't taken a stance because I don't have a really strong feeling about anybody yet.

By the way, if we're going ahead with the plan, could we have a soldier/sniper claim? If there are none we need to reevaluate.


Role fishing more?

I also want to call out Drazerk.

He votes RedFF1 for shoddy reasoning and then disappears off the face of the earth. Also YM that quick jump onto Red was also kinda suspicous (ie one-liner + vote) and seems like your trying to start a really early bandwagon. Care to explain?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 19:42 GMT
#255
On August 03 2011 04:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On August 03 2011 04:25 OriginalName wrote:
On August 03 2011 03:23 Varpulis wrote:
On August 03 2011 02:43 Mig wrote:
Varp every post you make screams wishy washy to me. Where is the confident Varpulis I have played with in the past? Every opinion you give you list the pros and cons and then you end up taking a pretty neutral stance. I haven't seen you have a strong opinion of anything yet.

If you had to vote for someone right now who would it be for and why? Do you find anyone besides red scummy?

I got called out for wishy washiness in PTP (day 1) as well. Day 1 nothing is solid, there's rarely anything to base arguments off of until late in the day, and I'm usually focused on proving my activity, not calling people scum. I haven't taken a stance because I don't have a really strong feeling about anybody yet.

By the way, if we're going ahead with the plan, could we have a soldier/sniper claim? If there are none we need to reevaluate.


Role fishing more?

I also want to call out Drazerk.

He votes RedFF1 for shoddy reasoning and then disappears off the face of the earth. Also YM that quick jump onto Red was also kinda suspicous (ie one-liner + vote) and seems like your trying to start a really early bandwagon. Care to explain?


Unless I'm misunderstanding Varpulis he was opposed to the plan in the first place so why would he ask for an open claim?


Ohh, and now everything is starting to come together...
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 20:14 GMT
#281
On August 03 2011 05:12 Lucidity wrote:
YM and others:

Can you please stop going on about a mass roleclaim TO A CONFIRMED TOWNIE being a bad thing? It's getting tiresome.


Its not bad, its unrealistic.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 20:24 GMT
#287
On August 03 2011 05:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
its honestly so obvious and simple why the plan wont work idk why we're still talking about it

Then lets start disscussing lynch options.

I like Varpulis for the D1 lynch. Im going to read up on Mig afterwords.

Varpulis:

-Wishy-washy
-Rolefishing ESPECIALLY under the circumstances of this role-fish.
-Says hes going to PM lurkers to try to maintain activity, decides to back down from it.
-His first game post is really generic wanting to contribute without really contributing general advice post. He also puts a picture of a BLU engineer as if hes trying to establish his innocence.
-Defends himself with Meta instead of hard facts.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 20:24 GMT
#289
On August 03 2011 05:20 Lucidity wrote:
If it's such a waste of time why are you dedicating any time at all to it anymore? I don't think there has been serious majority support for the plan for long now, so there's no reason for you to talk about it. Every Day 1 has to start in some useless way before there's something to discuss. Why not use the posts that have been generated by this plan to start some discussion which you think might be useful?


Then drop it, you brought it back up earlier.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 20:25 GMT
#291
On August 03 2011 05:24 Curu wrote:
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On August 03 2011 03:23 Varpulis wrote:
and I'm usually focused on proving my activity, not calling people scum. I haven't taken a stance because I don't have a really strong feeling about anybody yet.



Hi Varpulis, wtf?


Oh add this to my points as well.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 22:14 GMT
#319
BIG IRC LOG POST INCOMING
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[16:49] <@Kurumi> ok ok
[16:49] <youngminii> not that anyone cares
[16:49] <@Kurumi> hm
[16:49] <CUru> hey munk e
[16:49] <@Kurumi> dropbear would care
[16:49] <@Kurumi> but he isn't playing
[16:49] <CUru> who do you think is scummy?
[16:49] <Munk-E> Mainly mig
[16:49] <Munk-E> but i'm also analysing varp
[16:49] <Munk-E> and lucidity
[16:49] <youngminii> oh look syllogism told mig that we're talking about him and now mig is here
[16:50] <Lucidity> lol
[16:50] <youngminii> /talkingoutofmyass
[16:50] <Munk-E> Oh snap when did he get here?
[16:50] <mig__> just got here I was just in irc until I had to disc like 15 min ago lol
[16:50] <mig__> maybe longer
[16:50] <OriginalName> it was like
[16:50] <OriginalName> an hour ago
[16:50] <OriginalName> when you dced
[16:50] <mig__> k
[16:52] <CUru> ym why would you want to lynch mig day 1?
[16:52] <CUru> he has a ridic track record of finding scum
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> i agree with curu
[16:52] <youngminii> oh that's fair enough reason to not lynch him actually
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> wait on mig
[16:52] <youngminii> yeah
[16:52] <CUru> scum would be much more afraid of him than town
[16:52] <syllogism> mig was mean to him so he started tunnelling the most active player in a game where the thread is pretty dead, standard
[16:52] <youngminii> ok unvoting
[16:52] <CUru> if hes scum then we can tell when he doesnt find any scum
[16:53] <youngminii> splendid work syllogism, as usual
[16:53] <syllogism> it's true
[16:53] <OriginalName> So
[16:53] <OriginalName> are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:53] <OriginalName> for likely suspects?
[16:53] <youngminii> what, the fact that your backseat sheeping is splendid?
[16:53] <syllogism> what am I sheeping
[16:53] <OriginalName> On Mig
[16:54] <syllogism> on what
[16:54] <OriginalName> when he could theoretically be perfectly wrong
[16:54] <OriginalName> and your just not doing any of your own thinking
[16:54] <youngminii> on literally everything he has done this game
[16:54] <OriginalName> on his lynches
[16:54] <OriginalName> Syllogism
[16:54] <youngminii> i'm not even kidding, you're just following his every single thought
[16:54] <OriginalName> you are not mig
[16:54] <syllogism> i've been talking to him and a few others all game on skype
[16:54] <OriginalName> think for yourself
[16:54] <youngminii> you mean on quicktopic?
[16:54] <syllogism> you apparently dont know me very well
[16:54] <syllogism> if you think i dont think for myself
[16:54] <OriginalName> but you havent shown that yet
[16:54] <OriginalName> at all
[16:54] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:54] <syllogism> in thread yes
[16:55] <OriginalName> THEN SHOW IT IN THE GOD DAMNDED THREAD
[16:55] <OriginalName> THATS WHERE IT MATTERS
[16:55] <youngminii> you haven't shown it in irc either
[16:55] <OriginalName> I dont give a fuck about your private behind closed doors shit
[16:55] <syllogism> it's a channel with 15 people
[16:55] <OriginalName> i want to see it
[16:55] <syllogism> not exactly ideal
[16:55] <youngminii> so you're showing it in your PMs to mig
[16:55] <@Kurumi> I like turtles
[16:55] <OriginalName> Because afaik your just sheeping
[16:55] <syllogism> what am I sheeping, you still havent said
[16:55] <OriginalName> Kurumi are you trying to troll me cause of WaW2?
[16:55] <Lucidity> how is it more ideal to show to 1 person syllogism?
[16:55] <Lucidity> lol
[16:55] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:55] <syllogism> all i've done is argue against bad logic by YM
[16:55] <youngminii> wtf
[16:56] <youngminii> you can't see what you're sheeping
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <syllogism> Lucidity: it's not one
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <youngminii> i can't
[16:56] <youngminii> handle this
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not trolling anyone
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am hosting a game
[16:56] <@Kurumi> this is serious
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <youngminii> syllogism's got to be the biggest troll
[16:56] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:56] <@Kurumi> but
[16:56] <@Kurumi> what happened
[16:56] <OriginalName> no
[16:56] <OriginalName> the turtle things
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not paying attention
[16:56] <OriginalName> shit
[16:56] <@Kurumi> aa
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I just like turtles
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <OriginalName> mmk
[16:56] <Lucidity> is it just me or does
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:56] <Lucidity> 02,02 12,00 2302:125302.1234 02,02   02( OriginalName 02) for likely suspects?
[16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[16:56] <OriginalName> because
[16:56] <Lucidity> lol
[16:56] <OriginalName> we want a solid lynch
[16:56] <OriginalName> not just
[16:56] <OriginalName> herp derp everyone off doing their own shit
[16:57] <OriginalName> Dont even try that scum shit on me
[16:57] <Lucidity> we're still 24 hours away from lynch
[16:57] <OriginalName> so what
[16:57] <OriginalName> we tookj
[16:57] <OriginalName> 24 hours
[16:57] <Lucidity> what possibly reason is there to start tunneling now
[16:57] <Lucidity> haha
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get that plan away
[16:57] <OriginalName> its gonna take 24 hours
[16:57] <youngminii> LOL
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get our shit together
[16:57] <syllogism> tunneling is fine if it creates discussion
[16:57] <OriginalName> Im starting early
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> no it doesnt scream scum lol
[16:57] <Lucidity> That's just asking, "Hey guys, who are the 2 candidates I can tag on to without upsetting shit?"
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> have you read
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> vers town guide
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> tunneling isnt a scumtell
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> town is more likely to do it than mafia
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia want to plays afe
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> they go where the town goes
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> has no reason to tunnel
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> as long as mafia doesnt get lynched it doesnt matter lol
[16:58] <OriginalName> And i cant tunnel as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> which is exactly what ON is doing?
[16:58] <OriginalName> i tried it once
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what motivation would ON possibly have as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> roflll
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> to tunnel you
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> because youre bad
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> if it was
[16:58] <alanismorisette> wow after that syllo now looks redic scummy
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> BC
[16:58] <OriginalName> it fucking
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> id understand
[16:58] <OriginalName> failed
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm not saying he's tunneling he's scum
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> thats exactly what you said
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm saying he's asking the town for 2 safe candidates
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> ffs
[16:58] <Lucidity> ?
[16:59] <OriginalName> No
[16:59] <OriginalName> i give up
[16:59] <@Kurumi> wanna a replacement
[16:59] <@Kurumi> the next in the line is..
[16:59] <@Kurumi> Bill Murray
[16:59] <OriginalName> no
[16:59] <@Kurumi> so how about that?
[16:59] <OriginalName> Im not a ragequit
[16:59] <@Kurumi> kk whatever
[16:59] <OriginalName> im giving up on explaining
[16:59] <OriginalName> why I said that
[16:59] <youngminii> if bm was next in line
[16:59] <DoctorHelvetica> lucidity its normal if people have a suspicion to tunnel it
[16:59] <Lucidity> You think we found the scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i'd give my spot just to see him play
[17:00] <youngminii> again
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> because the towns goal is to kill a scum
[17:00] <Lucidity> in those 2 candidates?
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> if you think someone is scum
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you tunnel them lol
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> thats the pro town thing to do
[17:00] <OriginalName> i think those two candidates
[17:00] <OriginalName> have the highest chances
[17:00] <OriginalName> of being scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i don't
[17:00] <Lucidity> with so little info out
[17:00] <OriginalName> From what i have deduced in the thread
[17:00] <OriginalName> Ok then
[17:00] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> there is a lot
[17:00] <OriginalName> put more info in then
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> to analyse
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> already
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:00] <alanismorisette> wow@heist
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> we dont have flip info
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> but
[17:00] <Lucidity> There is a lot more to analyse
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <Lucidity> o
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> whats so funny
[17:00] <OriginalName> The OMGUS from that
[17:00] <OriginalName> doesnt help you
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you know what i would do if i ws mafia id say
[17:00] <OriginalName> btw
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> "ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol"
[17:01] <OriginalName> DrH is prob town
[17:01] <OriginalName> YM is meh
[17:01] <youngminii> ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol
[17:01] <Lucidity> OMGUS?
[17:01] <OriginalName> I want to see more from BC
[17:01] <OriginalName> oh my god you suck
[17:01] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:01] <OriginalName> someone accuses
[17:01] <Lucidity> I know what it means
[17:01] <OriginalName> then you shout back
[17:01] <Lucidity> where did I do it?
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> when you said on is scum after he said youre scum
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[17:01] <Lucidity> no
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) for likely suspects?
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[17:01] <Lucidity> You're completely misrepresenting
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:02] <@Kurumi> hey guys, just do what Ace recommended in Mini
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> that looks like omgus
[17:02] <@Kurumi> RANDOM LYNCH
[17:02] <Lucidity> It's scummy because he's asking the town for safe candidates
[17:02] <@Kurumi> jk jk :3 play mafia
[17:02] <Lucidity> not because i'm one of the 2 suspects
[17:02] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:02] <@Kurumi> now brb
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> its not scummy hes seeing if people agree
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> thats normal to do
[17:02] * chaos13_ is now known as chaos13away
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> no matter what side youre on
[17:02] <OriginalName> Its called checking your work
[17:02] <OriginalName> making sure im not completely off my rocker
[17:02] <Lucidity> horseshit
[17:02] <Lucidity> roofl
[17:02] <OriginalName> ...
[17:02] <OriginalName> fuck it
[17:02] <Lucidity> what work?
[17:02] <OriginalName> Lucid is soooooo scum
[17:02] <Lucidity> You haven't posted anything
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] <OriginalName> oh
[17:03] <OriginalName> my
[17:03] <OriginalName> god
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
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Im going to point out the arguement between Lucidity and Me. Take what you will from it, but I think hes definitly up there on the scum leaderboard.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#324
On August 03 2011 07:19 Lucidity wrote:
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On August 03 2011 07:14 OriginalName wrote:
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[16:49] <@Kurumi> ok ok
[16:49] <youngminii> not that anyone cares
[16:49] <@Kurumi> hm
[16:49] <CUru> hey munk e
[16:49] <@Kurumi> dropbear would care
[16:49] <@Kurumi> but he isn't playing
[16:49] <CUru> who do you think is scummy?
[16:49] <Munk-E> Mainly mig
[16:49] <Munk-E> but i'm also analysing varp
[16:49] <Munk-E> and lucidity
[16:49] <youngminii> oh look syllogism told mig that we're talking about him and now mig is here
[16:50] <Lucidity> lol
[16:50] <youngminii> /talkingoutofmyass
[16:50] <Munk-E> Oh snap when did he get here?
[16:50] <mig__> just got here I was just in irc until I had to disc like 15 min ago lol
[16:50] <mig__> maybe longer
[16:50] <OriginalName> it was like
[16:50] <OriginalName> an hour ago
[16:50] <OriginalName> when you dced
[16:50] <mig__> k
[16:52] <CUru> ym why would you want to lynch mig day 1?
[16:52] <CUru> he has a ridic track record of finding scum
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> i agree with curu
[16:52] <youngminii> oh that's fair enough reason to not lynch him actually
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> wait on mig
[16:52] <youngminii> yeah
[16:52] <CUru> scum would be much more afraid of him than town
[16:52] <syllogism> mig was mean to him so he started tunnelling the most active player in a game where the thread is pretty dead, standard
[16:52] <youngminii> ok unvoting
[16:52] <CUru> if hes scum then we can tell when he doesnt find any scum
[16:53] <youngminii> splendid work syllogism, as usual
[16:53] <syllogism> it's true
[16:53] <OriginalName> So
[16:53] <OriginalName> are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:53] <OriginalName> for likely suspects?
[16:53] <youngminii> what, the fact that your backseat sheeping is splendid?
[16:53] <syllogism> what am I sheeping
[16:53] <OriginalName> On Mig
[16:54] <syllogism> on what
[16:54] <OriginalName> when he could theoretically be perfectly wrong
[16:54] <OriginalName> and your just not doing any of your own thinking
[16:54] <youngminii> on literally everything he has done this game
[16:54] <OriginalName> on his lynches
[16:54] <OriginalName> Syllogism
[16:54] <youngminii> i'm not even kidding, you're just following his every single thought
[16:54] <OriginalName> you are not mig
[16:54] <syllogism> i've been talking to him and a few others all game on skype
[16:54] <OriginalName> think for yourself
[16:54] <youngminii> you mean on quicktopic?
[16:54] <syllogism> you apparently dont know me very well
[16:54] <syllogism> if you think i dont think for myself
[16:54] <OriginalName> but you havent shown that yet
[16:54] <OriginalName> at all
[16:54] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:54] <syllogism> in thread yes
[16:55] <OriginalName> THEN SHOW IT IN THE GOD DAMNDED THREAD
[16:55] <OriginalName> THATS WHERE IT MATTERS
[16:55] <youngminii> you haven't shown it in irc either
[16:55] <OriginalName> I dont give a fuck about your private behind closed doors shit
[16:55] <syllogism> it's a channel with 15 people
[16:55] <OriginalName> i want to see it
[16:55] <syllogism> not exactly ideal
[16:55] <youngminii> so you're showing it in your PMs to mig
[16:55] <@Kurumi> I like turtles
[16:55] <OriginalName> Because afaik your just sheeping
[16:55] <syllogism> what am I sheeping, you still havent said
[16:55] <OriginalName> Kurumi are you trying to troll me cause of WaW2?
[16:55] <Lucidity> how is it more ideal to show to 1 person syllogism?
[16:55] <Lucidity> lol
[16:55] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:55] <syllogism> all i've done is argue against bad logic by YM
[16:55] <youngminii> wtf
[16:56] <youngminii> you can't see what you're sheeping
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <syllogism> Lucidity: it's not one
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <youngminii> i can't
[16:56] <youngminii> handle this
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not trolling anyone
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am hosting a game
[16:56] <@Kurumi> this is serious
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <youngminii> syllogism's got to be the biggest troll
[16:56] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:56] <@Kurumi> but
[16:56] <@Kurumi> what happened
[16:56] <OriginalName> no
[16:56] <OriginalName> the turtle things
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not paying attention
[16:56] <OriginalName> shit
[16:56] <@Kurumi> aa
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I just like turtles
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <OriginalName> mmk
[16:56] <Lucidity> is it just me or does
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:56] <Lucidity> 02,02 12,00 2302:125302.1234 02,02   02( OriginalName 02) for likely suspects?
[16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[16:56] <OriginalName> because
[16:56] <Lucidity> lol
[16:56] <OriginalName> we want a solid lynch
[16:56] <OriginalName> not just
[16:56] <OriginalName> herp derp everyone off doing their own shit
[16:57] <OriginalName> Dont even try that scum shit on me
[16:57] <Lucidity> we're still 24 hours away from lynch
[16:57] <OriginalName> so what
[16:57] <OriginalName> we tookj
[16:57] <OriginalName> 24 hours
[16:57] <Lucidity> what possibly reason is there to start tunneling now
[16:57] <Lucidity> haha
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get that plan away
[16:57] <OriginalName> its gonna take 24 hours
[16:57] <youngminii> LOL
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get our shit together
[16:57] <syllogism> tunneling is fine if it creates discussion
[16:57] <OriginalName> Im starting early
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> no it doesnt scream scum lol
[16:57] <Lucidity> That's just asking, "Hey guys, who are the 2 candidates I can tag on to without upsetting shit?"
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> have you read
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> vers town guide
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> tunneling isnt a scumtell
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> town is more likely to do it than mafia
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia want to plays afe
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> they go where the town goes
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> has no reason to tunnel
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> as long as mafia doesnt get lynched it doesnt matter lol
[16:58] <OriginalName> And i cant tunnel as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> which is exactly what ON is doing?
[16:58] <OriginalName> i tried it once
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what motivation would ON possibly have as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> roflll
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> to tunnel you
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> because youre bad
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> if it was
[16:58] <alanismorisette> wow after that syllo now looks redic scummy
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> BC
[16:58] <OriginalName> it fucking
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> id understand
[16:58] <OriginalName> failed
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm not saying he's tunneling he's scum
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> thats exactly what you said
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm saying he's asking the town for 2 safe candidates
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> ffs
[16:58] <Lucidity> ?
[16:59] <OriginalName> No
[16:59] <OriginalName> i give up
[16:59] <@Kurumi> wanna a replacement
[16:59] <@Kurumi> the next in the line is..
[16:59] <@Kurumi> Bill Murray
[16:59] <OriginalName> no
[16:59] <@Kurumi> so how about that?
[16:59] <OriginalName> Im not a ragequit
[16:59] <@Kurumi> kk whatever
[16:59] <OriginalName> im giving up on explaining
[16:59] <OriginalName> why I said that
[16:59] <youngminii> if bm was next in line
[16:59] <DoctorHelvetica> lucidity its normal if people have a suspicion to tunnel it
[16:59] <Lucidity> You think we found the scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i'd give my spot just to see him play
[17:00] <youngminii> again
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> because the towns goal is to kill a scum
[17:00] <Lucidity> in those 2 candidates?
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> if you think someone is scum
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you tunnel them lol
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> thats the pro town thing to do
[17:00] <OriginalName> i think those two candidates
[17:00] <OriginalName> have the highest chances
[17:00] <OriginalName> of being scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i don't
[17:00] <Lucidity> with so little info out
[17:00] <OriginalName> From what i have deduced in the thread
[17:00] <OriginalName> Ok then
[17:00] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> there is a lot
[17:00] <OriginalName> put more info in then
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> to analyse
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> already
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:00] <alanismorisette> wow@heist
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> we dont have flip info
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> but
[17:00] <Lucidity> There is a lot more to analyse
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <Lucidity> o
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> whats so funny
[17:00] <OriginalName> The OMGUS from that
[17:00] <OriginalName> doesnt help you
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you know what i would do if i ws mafia id say
[17:00] <OriginalName> btw
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> "ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol"
[17:01] <OriginalName> DrH is prob town
[17:01] <OriginalName> YM is meh
[17:01] <youngminii> ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol
[17:01] <Lucidity> OMGUS?
[17:01] <OriginalName> I want to see more from BC
[17:01] <OriginalName> oh my god you suck
[17:01] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:01] <OriginalName> someone accuses
[17:01] <Lucidity> I know what it means
[17:01] <OriginalName> then you shout back
[17:01] <Lucidity> where did I do it?
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> when you said on is scum after he said youre scum
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[17:01] <Lucidity> no
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) for likely suspects?
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[17:01] <Lucidity> You're completely misrepresenting
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:02] <@Kurumi> hey guys, just do what Ace recommended in Mini
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> that looks like omgus
[17:02] <@Kurumi> RANDOM LYNCH
[17:02] <Lucidity> It's scummy because he's asking the town for safe candidates
[17:02] <@Kurumi> jk jk :3 play mafia
[17:02] <Lucidity> not because i'm one of the 2 suspects
[17:02] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:02] <@Kurumi> now brb
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> its not scummy hes seeing if people agree
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> thats normal to do
[17:02] * chaos13_ is now known as chaos13away
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> no matter what side youre on
[17:02] <OriginalName> Its called checking your work
[17:02] <OriginalName> making sure im not completely off my rocker
[17:02] <Lucidity> horseshit
[17:02] <Lucidity> roofl
[17:02] <OriginalName> ...
[17:02] <OriginalName> fuck it
[17:02] <Lucidity> what work?
[17:02] <OriginalName> Lucid is soooooo scum
[17:02] <Lucidity> You haven't posted anything
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] <OriginalName> oh
[17:03] <OriginalName> my
[17:03] <OriginalName> god
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
End of relevant conversation


Im going to point out the arguement between Lucidity and Me. Take what you will from it, but I think hes definitly up there on the scum leaderboard.

I already apologised for that on IRC. I thought you joined IRC and asked for 2 safe candidates. I didn't recognise your nick from the thread -.-


I posted that before i saw it.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 23:13 GMT
#337
On August 03 2011 08:12 redFF wrote:
I went through sandroba's games to see kooky plans.

PTP1-kooky plan(town)
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On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.

WaW2-kooky plan(town)
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On July 05 2011 14:58 sandroba wrote:
Okay I have a fucking plan!
We are going to treat all days as being 24 hours (We could consider starting this day2, up for discussion). Every day we vote for who to lynch in the first 24 hours and that player will claim how many lives he has (town player has no reason to lie and if he does he gets lynched anyway) and we will fire that amount on him. If a player claims unkillable by nukes like coag we launch 2 and if he's not dead we lynch him. Those will be the only nukes fired every day and it's safe to assume world radiation will not be reached this way. Every player has at least 1-2 nukes and the op says the radiation level needs to be "fairly high" for the conspirator to win. If anyone else fires a nuke he gets auto lynched NOT nuked back.
If we follow this plan we will have 2 lynches every day for every night kill axis has. Needless to say this is extremelly advantageos for us since:

1) Prevents conspirator from winning the game. We can stop using this tactic any time when the game gets tilted in allies favor.

2) Gets us 2 lynches everyday and prevents people from random killing other players.

XLii-kooky plan (town)
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On June 14 2011 12:55 sandroba wrote:
Ok, so I have an idea. We try to use pm's to our advantage and coordinating blues is extremelly advantageous to town.
I propose a DT that has a number on the player list lesser or equal 15 to check me this night. He then pms me my role and I post in the thread that I got checked, of course not revealing his ID.
Everyone that has a blue role mansons me.

A medic who has a number inferior or equal 10 protects me this night. This should keep mafia guessing, because no one knows how many medics, if any, there are in the first 10 numbers. This can make mafia waste many kp on me or let the plan work.

I will not reveal any roles to ANYONE so there are no possible leaks, and will single handly coordinate all the blue force, of course taking into consideration all lists posted in thread and sugested to me via pm's.


Possible scenarios:
1) I'm GF, then town is pretty much screwed, but you guys can lynch me if many blues are dead after day1 if you think that's the case. That's the worst possible scenario and a pretty huge loss for town, but I assure I'm not.

2) I'm mafia goon or miller. If I'm mafia I'm pretty dumb proposing this plan, but either way of course the DT will not manson me. If I'm mafia I can lie and tell you guys that a DT has checked me and confirmed my role, causing many blues to roleclaim to me, but then I would risk that there was a DT in the first 15 numbers that can instantly out me as scum randomly mansoning another player and using him as mouth. So it doesn't work well if I'm mafia. If I'm miller I'll of course say in thread that no DT has messaged me (because he won't) and the plan has failed, we can proceed to go by our business and ignore the plan.

3) I'm any other town aligned role (most likely scenario and the real one). If there's a DT who pm's me I'll say so in thread and other blues who have night actions role claim to me. Town proceeds to rape mafia miserably. If no one checks and pms me we ignore this plan and move on.

Why this plan is good: First I'm experienced and intuitive enough to make good reads and calls, but not "well known" enough to have a high chance of being mafia GF. Making another praised veteran take this role raises the chance he's the mafia godfather.
Second, it has a very slim chance of needlessly tieing up many of our blue roles, since I've limited the possible DTs/Medic protects using the player list.
Third, it's pretty hard to make a secure blue coordination center without previously determining a player to be checked or outing the DT, so this is the best I could come up so far.

Any criticisms and sugestions are welcome. Let's make this plan the best we possibly can. Cheers.

Paranoid Mafia-no kooky plan(scum)
Closed casket-no kooky plan (scum)
xxxix-no kooky plan (town)
Merc Mini-no kooky plan (town)
So what does this show us? Sandroba often does silly plans as town, but never as scum. Small sample pool yes, but something to consider. I have Sandroba down as town even though his plan was shit. I was bored btw so don't go asking me why i did this.

T.T now he's getting replaced wtf. The meta read still stands.



I was fairly sure Sand himself was town ._.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 00:25 GMT
#341
On August 03 2011 08:58 Curu wrote:
Here's a daunting task for you redFF.

Do a full meta analysis of Kenpachi.


I guarantee you its not worth the effort.

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Lynch him.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 01:18 GMT
#347
On August 03 2011 09:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On August 03 2011 09:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i said it like twice you were absent for much more than that lol you haven't weighed in on either of the two main lynch candidates and all the shit that has been flying around don't try to turn this around on me


you said I was absent twice in a very short period of time in which up till that point the thread had been insanely dead. Don't call people out and expect immediate response, let alone doing it twice.

Given the level of inactivity I'm for offing kenpachi for generally being useless or RL unless someone throws up compelling analysis on either target.

I would be far more likely to jump at drazerk who has been mia since accusing someone and attempting to start a bandwagon. But as of now there is a selection of bad choices.


Do you mind elaborating on how these these targets are bad ._.

(Although I do agree on Drazerk)
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 04:01 GMT
#355
On August 03 2011 12:42 JeeJee wrote:
actually screw it let's get the ball rolling.
anyone disagree with drazerk as a candidate?


Not here, my only complaint is really lack of evidence, although our current amount is quite damning if i do say so.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 16:26 GMT
#385
Im staying on Varpu right now, I dont like the prospect of a massive shift because BC had 2 posts saying so. In all honesty Varpu himself is lurking almost as bad Drazerk is.

I dont see how people are saying we shouldnt lynch active players as hes quite clearly not being very active.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 16:55 GMT
#390
On August 04 2011 01:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On August 04 2011 01:26 OriginalName wrote:
Im staying on Varpu right now, I dont like the prospect of a massive shift because BC had 2 posts saying so. In all honesty Varpu himself is lurking almost as bad Drazerk is.

I dont see how people are saying we shouldnt lynch active players as hes quite clearly not being very active.


As I have just mentioned on IRC. Varp was insanely easily bandwagon'd and lucidity had the looks of an easy bandwagon. I am usually wary of people voting for someone with very little information to go on.

Factoring in that I know draz has been around TL but just not posting made him look like a safer inactive choice.

However, what massive shift are you talking about? The 2 votes currently on draz? Varp still has the majority and no one has made a strong enough case to create a vote shift large enough to overtake that at the moment.

Care to explain this "massive shift" you are talking about.


Key word there was PROSPECT. If some of us start moving something tells me more and more will.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 22:11 GMT
#421
On August 04 2011 07:10 Palmar wrote:
Night 1



[image loading]


Holy shit, go blue team!

A random robot has been blown up and it's totally red. Red like blood, red like wine, red like the ocean, red like a rose, red like someone who's mad.

Bottom line

Varpulis the Three Legged Electrosapper Robot has been blown to shits and pieces.

Oh, and someone threw a random stickybomb. heist the blu scout stepped into it because he just doesn't give a shit.


AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 03 2011 22:24 GMT
#429
On August 04 2011 07:19 youngminii wrote:
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On August 04 2011 07:18 ghrur wrote:
Wow, towns are getting better at Day 1. :O

or scum is getting worse


Its both tbh.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 04 2011 01:32 GMT
#487
On August 04 2011 09:45 Curu wrote:
Who do you think is a better scumhunter, Mig or ON?

That's your reason.

(No offense ON <3)


Meh, Migs just proven himself reliable, im only starting to finally get in my element when it comes to town play.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 04 2011 21:38 GMT
#541
IN THE EVENT OF MY DEATH:

I personally believe the scumteam is JeeJee/Chaos13/Drazerk

I still have a shred of hope in BC, regardless of what the rest of the thread thinks and would really ask you to take his viewpoints in consderation, if you find them to be scum oriented then so be it lynch him, but otherwise I would heed his word.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 04 2011 22:30 GMT
#565
CURRENT IRC DISSUCUSSION FOR THOSE WHO ARENT HERE.

PRIMARY INFORMATION:
Taa is a lying motherfucker

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[17:01] <Original|Laptop> wtf
[17:01] <Kenpachi_> oh wow only trotske died
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> trotske
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> ???
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> Mig you get hit?
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> wait
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> no shot
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> from taa
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> soooo
[17:01] <BloodyC0bbler> who would shoot
[17:01] <BloodyC0bbler> trotske
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> i dont know
[17:01] <Original|Laptop> its almost a help
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> why wasnt taa hit
[17:01] <taa> dont count on me being a blue
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> i figured
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> taa did you bluff
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> as much
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> taa you vet?
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> and take hit?
[17:02] <mig__> who shot trotske
[17:02] <mig__> ?
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> mafia...?
[17:02] <mig__> what sense does that make lol
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> probably for the wifom value
[17:02] <Kenpachi_> fail blue snipe?
[17:02] <Original|Laptop> Look at trotskes posts
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> if nothing of value is in it
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> then ignore it and move on
[17:03] <Kenpachi_> did anyone get roleblocked?
[17:03] <Kenpachi_> f5 yo!
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> we killed roleblocker
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> duuuurrrrr
[17:03] <Barundar> well maybe because he was pretty much town from varp's fos
[17:03] <Kenpachi_> well you know
[17:03] <mig__> well anyway yes I was shot
[17:03] <mig__> I am a champion
[17:03] <Kenpachi_> there might be more..
[17:03] <Barundar> \o/
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> alright
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> figured
[17:03] <Original|Laptop> mig was it a med or you vet?
[17:03] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:04] <mig__> vet
[17:04] <DoctorHelvetica> it doesnt matter he shouldn't claim how imo
[17:04] <DoctorHelvetica> ok
[17:04] <Original|Laptop> alright
[17:04] <Original|Laptop> so we still dont know if we have a medic
[17:04] <syllogism> he may have been a bad attempted blue snipe, he talked about snipers and such
[17:04] <Kenpachi_> yeah
[17:04] <Kenpachi_> so
[17:04] <mig__> really bad attempted blue snipe if so lol
[17:04] <Kenpachi_> i got roleblocked
[17:04] <Kenpachi_> but i dont do anything
[17:04] <Original|Laptop> huh
[17:04] <Original|Laptop> so
[17:04] <syllogism> huh
[17:04] <Original|Laptop> they have 2 roleblocks
[17:04] <Original|Laptop> wtf
[17:04] <BloodyC0bbler> the fuck?
[17:05] <Original|Laptop> so we probably have more power roles than i thought
[17:05] <Original|Laptop> hmmm
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[17:05] <Original|Laptop> or
[17:05] <Original|Laptop> a fuckton of vets
[17:05] <BloodyC0bbler> then no gf?
[17:05] <Original|Laptop> Maybe that too
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[17:05] <Original|Laptop> this is interesting
[17:05] <DoctorHelvetica> i think its 2-3 vets
[17:05] <DoctorHelvetica> if there are more than one RB
[17:05] <Original|Laptop> agreed
[17:05] <Original|Laptop> hmmm
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> We should start pressuring JeeJee
[17:06] <redafk> k
[17:06] <redafk> nope
[17:06] <redafk> i think jeejee is town
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> Thats why we pressure him
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> for his reaction
[17:06] <DoctorHelvetica> i never thought jeejee had a strong case against him BC is scummier to me
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> i dont give a fuck
[17:06] <DoctorHelvetica> and chaos13
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> if you think hes town
[17:06] <mig__> hey so
[17:06] <mig__> people should claim to me yea?
[17:06] <BloodyC0bbler> lawl
[17:06] <mig__> unless people think I could be faking
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> no
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> i doubt your faking
[17:06] <redafk> ima wait mig
[17:06] <redafk> u
[17:06] <Original|Laptop> of all people
[17:07] <redafk> he could be
[17:07] <mig__> lol
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> it could be
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> Mig/Kenpachi scum team
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> just sayin
[17:07] <Kenpachi_> wat
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> Fake protect
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> and roleblock
[17:07] <redafk> Original|Laptop: bc is scummier
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> for wifom value
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> and shoot trotske
[17:07] <syllogism> lol
[17:07] <Kenpachi_> im
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> redafk: Its called conspiracy theories
[17:07] <Kenpachi_> so confused
[17:07] <mig__> if people don't want to claim they don't have to I don't care
[17:07] <Kenpachi_> wtf are you saying
[17:07] <mig__> but that scenario is pretty unlikely lol
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> Yeah
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> it is
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> once again
[17:07] <Original|Laptop> conspirachy theory
[17:08] <Original|Laptop> lol
[17:08] <Original|Laptop> Syllos willingness to massclaim to mig
[17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> redff just wants to prove that someday he can be right by random accusing me of being red
[17:08] <Original|Laptop> is kinda weird
[17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> not really
[17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo works with mig
[17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> like every pm game
[17:08] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:08] <redafk> BloodyC0bbler: FUUUUUUUU
[17:08] <Original|Laptop> red
[17:08] <Original|Laptop> chill the fuck out
[17:09] <Original|Laptop> and actually think this out rationally
[17:09] <redafk> lol
[17:09] <redafk> im kidiing
[17:09] <redafk> but ehres whats happenin
[17:09] <redafk> we aint mass claiming to mig
[17:09] <Original|Laptop> Not yet
[17:09] <redafk> thats not happening
[17:09] <mig__> red you dont have control over whether people do or not lol
[17:09] <Original|Laptop> I could see it useful later
[17:09] <Original|Laptop> but we have no control
[17:09] <Original|Laptop> that is correct
[17:09] <redafk> mig__: i know obv
[17:09] <mig__> but ok so what are the scenario
[17:09] <redafk> but im gonna try and stop people
[17:09] <BloodyC0bbler> would have been more solid if a vig had shot mig, thats easier to prove -_-
[17:09] <mig__> where I am mafia
[17:09] <redafk> because you arent confirmed town
[17:10] <mig__> what are the scenario where I am mafia?
[17:10] <mig__> mafia double stacked trotske
[17:10] <mig__> to try and get the blue role list?
[17:10] <mig__> if dts claim to me I can announce results
[17:10] <Original|Laptop> for the recod
[17:10] <Original|Laptop> its still not that bad of an idea
[17:10] <Original|Laptop> on mafias part
[17:10] <BloodyC0bbler> to risk one of their own?
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> eh
[17:11] <mig__> I doubt they double stack trotske if that were the case tho lol
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> yeah
[17:11] <mig__> they would have double stacked you
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> its probably failed blue snipe
[17:11] <redafk> if a dt found scum
[17:11] <Kenpachi_> ^
[17:11] <redafk> he should claim
[17:11] <redafk> in thread
[17:11] <redafk> imo
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> and a prot
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> No
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> fuck no
[17:11] <mig__> or he could claim to me..........
[17:11] <mig__> and I can announce it
[17:11] <BloodyC0bbler> im with the "why would anyone double stack troske"
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> id rather him claim to mig
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> I dont like massclaims
[17:11] <BloodyC0bbler> double stack a higher priority player
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> but indivdual claims
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> are fine
[17:11] <mig__> yea rationally why in the world would they ever double stack trotske
[17:11] <Original|Laptop> yeah
[17:11] <redafk> btw
[17:12] <Original|Laptop> So
[17:12] <redafk> i feel like trotske wasnt a vig shot
[17:12] <redafk> but rather
[17:12] <Original|Laptop> No
[17:12] <Original|Laptop> he wasnt
[17:12] <Original|Laptop> it was a failed blue snipe
[17:12] <redafk> an attempted blue snipe
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> i feel like he was a fail
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> shot
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> well
[17:12] <DoctorHelvetica> yes i could see
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> he did flip blue
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> just not the right blue
[17:12] <DoctorHelvetica> why they would think hes vig
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:12] <Kurumi> TL Mafia XLIII
[17:12] <Kurumi> will be famous
[17:12] <BloodyC0bbler> haha
[17:13] <Kurumi> fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[17:13] <Kurumi> it burns
[17:14] <Original|Laptop> hmm
[17:14] <Kenpachi_> i wonder who dt checked you
[17:14] <Original|Laptop> id like to know DT checks
[17:15] <Original|Laptop> I kinda hope a DT claims to mig
[17:15] <Original|Laptop> ._.
[17:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if we have one =\
[17:15] <taa> i didnt get shot
[17:15] <taa> i think
[17:15] <taa> you get notified right?
[17:15] <BloodyC0bbler> youd be notified
[17:15] <Kenpachi_> no
[17:15] <BloodyC0bbler> if you were
[17:15] <Kenpachi_> unless youre vet
[17:15] <Kenpachi_> no?
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> vet gets told
[17:16] <Kurumi> you get notified of losing vet life and med protects
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> as does a protected person
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> medic isnt told
[17:16] <Kenpachi_> oh
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> though
[17:16] <redafk> taa: you claimed vig correct
[17:16] <taa> ye
[17:16] <redafk> why the fuck
[17:16] <redafk> did mafia not shoot yu
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> fear of him being a hatter?
[17:16] <taa> they are derps
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:16] <redafk> and why the fuck didnt you shoot after claiming vig
[17:16] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:16] <taa> wtf
[17:16] <taa> i didnt shoot
[17:16] <Original|Laptop> taa
[17:16] <DoctorHelvetica> taa has been fosing everybody in this game
[17:16] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:16] <Original|Laptop> are you blue
[17:16] <taa> must have forgotten
[17:16] <redafk> taa why did you claim vg
[17:16] <redafk> first of all
[17:16] <BloodyC0bbler> ON
[17:16] <Kurumi> original
[17:17] <Kurumi> lol
[17:17] <BloodyC0bbler> everyone is blue or red -_-
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> oh
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> shut
[17:17] <taa> dude
[17:17] <Kenpachi_> he wante d to shoot jeeje
[17:17] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> taa are you a power role
[17:17] <redafk> why did you claim vig
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> Because theres no reason to claim
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> unless your vet
[17:17] <redafk> wtf is it with people and claiming like retards
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> or suicidal
[17:17] <taa> im not a power role
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> okay
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> so now
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> listen
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> wait
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> shut up and listen
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> alright
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> we agree trotske was shot becasue of a bad blue snipe
[17:17] <Original|Laptop> yes
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> he talked alot about vig mechanics
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia would havet hought he was vig
[17:17] <DoctorHelvetica> why the fuck
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> not shoot taa
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> who claims it
[17:18] <taa> lol
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> For the wifom
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> on the claim
[17:18] <taa> my claim was obv fake
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> imo
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> or
[17:18] <taa> look
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> LAL
[17:18] <Yonista> it would be stupid to claim
[17:18] <mig__> hey how about this
[17:18] <Yonista> obvious fake
[17:18] <mig__> why did they rb ken
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[17:18] <mig__> and not TAA
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> who the fuck is yonista
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> ok
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> LAL is sounding pretty good atm
[17:18] <Kenpachi_> \o\
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:18] <Kenpachi_> i dunno
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> lal
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> all taa has done in this game as far as i ecall
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> is fos people and not follow through
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> is claim
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> and fos
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> and accuse people of being scum in irc
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> not argue his case
[17:18] <Kenpachi_> and claim vig
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> he called me scum here too
[17:18] <taa> drH
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then didn't do anything
[17:19] <taa> still upset
[17:19] <taa> ? :p
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and he said i didn't contribute and he couldn't back it up lol
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> upset about what
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> now hes pulling the umad card
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> you're being antagonistic again make a real point
[17:19] <taa> you were talking so much about sandys plan
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> So was everyone else
[17:19] <taa> you deserved to be called out
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> someone shoul
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> that was the topic of discussion at the time
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> d
[17:19] <taa> after that you got better though
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> record irc
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and i was the only one who pointed out the holes well
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> for further usage
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> this is getting copy pasted
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> into thread
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> when im done
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> ok
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> hi5
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> because this is good stuff
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> im quite leaning
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> LaL right now
[17:19] <taa> dude
[17:20] <taa> why did you say that
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> ?
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> why did i say what
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> LaL
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> that im adding this to thread?
[17:20] <taa> ruins a perfectly good irc convo
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> Because
[17:20] <taa> ye
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> it means
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> i can be held accountable
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> to makign sure
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> people see this shit
[17:20] <taa> ye
[17:20] <taa> but you can just do it
[17:20] <taa> and not say it in the irc
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> well
[17:20] <taa> thats so derpy
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> why not
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> ??
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> taa
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> who gives a fuck
[17:20] <taa> ok ok
[17:20] <taa> also
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> Your just trying to divert attention now
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> im making sure anyways
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> its just retarded
[17:21] <taa> omg im so sneaky
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> more antagonizing
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> keep going
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> its fun
[17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> taa be helpful instead of defending yourself by mocking others
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> IRC is my house
[17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> thats not helping your case
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> this is my specialty
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> I can and will get in your face
[17:21] <taa> ok ok
[17:21] <taa> i gtg soon
[17:22] <taa> so if you guys have any urgent questions
[17:22] <taa> go ahead
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> taa
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> why the fuck
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> did you claim vigilante
[17:22] <taa> multiple reasons
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> Name them
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> now
[17:22] <Kurumi> why friday isn't on youtube
[17:22] <taa> yeah yeah
[17:22] <Kurumi> fun fun fun
[17:22] <taa> first of all
[17:22] <Kurumi> looking forward to the weekend
[17:22] <taa> jee jee wasnt reacting at all
[17:22] <taa> that anoyed the crap out of me
[17:22] <taa> i wanted to pressure him more
[17:22] <taa> no one else was voting for him
[17:23] <taa> second of all
[17:23] <taa> i was sure
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:23] <taa> my claim
[17:23] <Kurumi> gtg
[17:23] <Kurumi> bye
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> i expected that actually
[17:23] <taa> was so obviously fake
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[17:23] <taa> kenpachi high five
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> so taa
[17:23] <taa> i dont understand why people think youre bad
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> if he knew the claim was fake
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> well
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> your name
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> cause it was obvious
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> its one of the newer ones
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> and newer names tend to be worse
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> Then what does that accomplish?
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> JeeJee is a vet
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:23] <taa> he is?
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> yeah
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> he played for a long time man
[17:24] <taa> oh lol
[17:24] <taa> i thought a real veteran
[17:24] <taa> kenpachi stop distracting me
[17:24] <Kenpachi_> >_>
[17:24] <taa> it was a poke
[17:24] <taa> you know
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> it was a stupid poke
[17:24] <taa> trying to get his attention
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:24] <taa> you think?
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> ugggh
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes
[17:24] <taa> look
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> I think its stupid
[17:24] <taa> your town right?
[17:24] <taa> your upset right?
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes
[17:24] <taa> why isnt he upset
[17:24] <taa> like
[17:25] <taa> who wouldnt react
[17:25] <taa> also
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> ugggh
[17:25] <taa> i didnt really say it
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> this is a mess
[17:25] <taa> i implied it
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> it really is
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> so
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> if i think about it
[17:25] <mig__> taa you're claim was retarded
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> maybe JeeJee isnt mafia?
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> ^
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> wait
[17:25] <taa> not nice mig
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> that was at mig
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> JeeJee and taa
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> like
[17:25] <mig__> and so you claimed it and didn't shoot and you weren't killed/rbd
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> could completely be on a scumteam
[17:25] <taa> nope
[17:25] <taa> it was obv fake
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont think jeejee is scum
[17:26] <taa> it also had a plus
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> in the first plce
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> im not sure
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> the case on him is not that good
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> anymore
[17:26] <taa> like
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> idk why people are so fucking confident
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> about him
[17:26] <taa> i was sure mafia wouldnt hit me
[17:26] <taa> if i claimed vigi
[17:26] <Kenpachi_> well
[17:26] <mig__> that makes a lot of sense
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> Im not really confidant on anyone
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i think bc is scum
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> im just more confidant that bc isnt scum
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> DrH
[17:26] <Kenpachi_> he basically chainsawed for varp
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> then jeeJee
[17:26] <mig__> it was very smart for you to ask for medics as well
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> thats all
[17:26] <taa> bc acted like jeejee
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> if I was scum
[17:26] <mig__> ask for medics when you are a lying vt
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no second rber
[17:26] <mig__> very good play
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> would be revealed
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> nor would I have lost a rber
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> wifom
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[17:26] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no, its fact
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> i micromanage
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> the first part i agree with
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> my teams
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> and you directed away
[17:27] <Original|Laptop> the second part
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> from the
[17:27] <Original|Laptop> was meh
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> every post they make
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> varp lynch
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and ive been scum with you
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> I edit
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and no you dont do that lol
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> uh i didnt with you as your not retarded
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i was with others
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont remember you being that picky about anything
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> and You haven't been on a team with me in awhile
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> ok
[17:27] <taa> but honestly
[17:27] <taa> did any of you guys take that claim serious?
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> so your argument is a meta argument "well id dot his if i was scum" that doesnt clear you in my eyes but
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> if your behavior doesnt change by this day
[17:27] <mig__> taa why did you ask for medics
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i will bandwagon you tomorrow
[17:27] <Original|Laptop> I did
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> no doubt about it
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> after you asked for medics
[17:28] <taa> i always do that
[17:28] <Kenpachi_> Taa
[17:28] <Kenpachi_> i did
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:28] <Kenpachi_> :D
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> do you think i'd be dumb enough to let a rber die day 1?
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> uggh
[17:28] <taa> also i die a lot
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> Yet
[17:28] <taa> so if i ask for a medic
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> you do a suicidal move
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> and expect to not die?
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im not getting into wifom
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> And you take a medic
[17:28] <taa> not by mafia any way
[17:28] <taa> i took a medic?
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> you're already
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> from players who are much more pro-town
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> wifoming
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> you could have
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> taa
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> for the record
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> so don't say you dont do it
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> you dont know who medic protected
[17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im saying lal
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> something you agree with
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> since you wanted to lynch kenpachi off the bat
[17:29] <Original|Laptop> I agree with LaL at this point
[17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:29] <Kenpachi_> huh
[17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi claimed green
[17:29] <BloodyC0bbler>
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> yes i know
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Canada1140 Posts
August 04 2011 23:17 GMT
#575
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[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> LAL
[17:18] <Yonista> it would be stupid to claim
[17:18] <mig__> hey how about this
[17:18] <Yonista> obvious fake
[17:18] <mig__> why did they rb ken
[17:18] == Yonista has changed nick to Lucidity
[17:18] <mig__> and not TAA
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> who the fuck is yonista
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> ok
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> LAL is sounding pretty good atm
[17:18] <Kenpachi_> \o\
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:18] <Kenpachi_> i dunno
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> lal
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> all taa has done in this game as far as i ecall
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> is fos people and not follow through
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> is claim
[17:18] <Original|Laptop> and fos
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> and accuse people of being scum in irc
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> not argue his case
[17:18] <Kenpachi_> and claim vig
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> he called me scum here too
[17:18] <taa> drH
[17:18] <DoctorHelvetica> then didn't do anything
[17:19] <taa> still upset
[17:19] <taa> ? :p
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and he said i didn't contribute and he couldn't back it up lol
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> upset about what
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> now hes pulling the umad card
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> you're being antagonistic again make a real point
[17:19] <taa> you were talking so much about sandys plan
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> So was everyone else
[17:19] <taa> you deserved to be called out
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> someone shoul
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> that was the topic of discussion at the time
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> d
[17:19] <taa> after that you got better though
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> record irc
[17:19] <DoctorHelvetica> and i was the only one who pointed out the holes well
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> for further usage
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> this is getting copy pasted
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> into thread
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> when im done
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> ok
[17:19] <Kenpachi_> hi5
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> because this is good stuff
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> im quite leaning
[17:19] <Original|Laptop> LaL right now
[17:19] <taa> dude
[17:20] <taa> why did you say that
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> ?
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> why did i say what
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> LaL
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> that im adding this to thread?
[17:20] <taa> ruins a perfectly good irc convo
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> Because
[17:20] <taa> ye
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> it means
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> i can be held accountable
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> to makign sure
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> people see this shit
[17:20] <taa> ye
[17:20] <taa> but you can just do it
[17:20] <taa> and not say it in the irc
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> well
[17:20] <taa> thats so derpy
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> why not
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> ??
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> taa
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> who gives a fuck
[17:20] <taa> ok ok
[17:20] <taa> also
[17:20] <Original|Laptop> Your just trying to divert attention now
[17:20] <Kenpachi_> im making sure anyways
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> its just retarded
[17:21] <taa> omg im so sneaky
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> more antagonizing
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> keep going
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> its fun
[17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> taa be helpful instead of defending yourself by mocking others
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> IRC is my house
[17:21] <DoctorHelvetica> thats not helping your case
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> this is my specialty
[17:21] <Original|Laptop> I can and will get in your face
[17:21] <taa> ok ok
[17:21] <taa> i gtg soon
[17:22] <taa> so if you guys have any urgent questions
[17:22] <taa> go ahead
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> taa
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> why the fuck
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> did you claim vigilante
[17:22] <taa> multiple reasons
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> Name them
[17:22] <Original|Laptop> now
[17:22] <Kurumi> why friday isn't on youtube
[17:22] <taa> yeah yeah
[17:22] <Kurumi> fun fun fun
[17:22] <taa> first of all
[17:22] <Kurumi> looking forward to the weekend
[17:22] <taa> jee jee wasnt reacting at all
[17:22] <taa> that anoyed the crap out of me
[17:22] <taa> i wanted to pressure him more
[17:22] <taa> no one else was voting for him
[17:23] <taa> second of all
[17:23] <taa> i was sure
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:23] <taa> my claim
[17:23] <Kurumi> gtg
[17:23] <Kurumi> bye
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> i expected that actually
[17:23] <taa> was so obviously fake
[17:23] == Kurumi [webchat@Kurumi.users.quakenet.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
[17:23] <taa> kenpachi high five
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> so taa
[17:23] <taa> i dont understand why people think youre bad
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> if he knew the claim was fake
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> well
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> your name
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> cause it was obvious
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> its one of the newer ones
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> and newer names tend to be worse
[17:23] <Original|Laptop> Then what does that accomplish?
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> JeeJee is a vet
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:23] <taa> he is?
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> yeah
[17:23] <Kenpachi_> he played for a long time man
[17:24] <taa> oh lol
[17:24] <taa> i thought a real veteran
[17:24] <taa> kenpachi stop distracting me
[17:24] <Kenpachi_> >_>
[17:24] <taa> it was a poke
[17:24] <taa> you know
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> it was a stupid poke
[17:24] <taa> trying to get his attention
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:24] <taa> you think?
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> ugggh
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes
[17:24] <taa> look
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> I think its stupid
[17:24] <taa> your town right?
[17:24] <taa> your upset right?
[17:24] <Original|Laptop> Yes
[17:24] <taa> why isnt he upset
[17:24] <taa> like
[17:25] <taa> who wouldnt react
[17:25] <taa> also
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> ugggh
[17:25] <taa> i didnt really say it
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> this is a mess
[17:25] <taa> i implied it
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> it really is
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> so
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> if i think about it
[17:25] <mig__> taa you're claim was retarded
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> maybe JeeJee isnt mafia?
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> ^
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> wait
[17:25] <taa> not nice mig
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> that was at mig
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> JeeJee and taa
[17:25] <Kenpachi_> like
[17:25] <mig__> and so you claimed it and didn't shoot and you weren't killed/rbd
[17:25] <Original|Laptop> could completely be on a scumteam
[17:25] <taa> nope
[17:25] <taa> it was obv fake
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont think jeejee is scum
[17:26] <taa> it also had a plus
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> in the first plce
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> im not sure
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> the case on him is not that good
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> anymore
[17:26] <taa> like
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> idk why people are so fucking confident
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> about him
[17:26] <taa> i was sure mafia wouldnt hit me
[17:26] <taa> if i claimed vigi
[17:26] <Kenpachi_> well
[17:26] <mig__> that makes a lot of sense
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> Im not really confidant on anyone
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> i think bc is scum
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> im just more confidant that bc isnt scum
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> DrH
[17:26] <Kenpachi_> he basically chainsawed for varp
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> then jeeJee
[17:26] <mig__> it was very smart for you to ask for medics as well
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> thats all
[17:26] <taa> bc acted like jeejee
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> if I was scum
[17:26] <mig__> ask for medics when you are a lying vt
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no second rber
[17:26] <mig__> very good play
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> would be revealed
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> nor would I have lost a rber
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> wifom
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[17:26] <Kenpachi_> lol
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> no, its fact
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> i micromanage
[17:26] <Original|Laptop> the first part i agree with
[17:26] <BloodyC0bbler> my teams
[17:26] <DoctorHelvetica> and you directed away
[17:27] <Original|Laptop> the second part
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> from the
[17:27] <Original|Laptop> was meh
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> every post they make
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> varp lynch
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and ive been scum with you
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> I edit
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> and no you dont do that lol
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> uh i didnt with you as your not retarded
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i was with others
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont remember you being that picky about anything
[17:27] <BloodyC0bbler> and You haven't been on a team with me in awhile
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> ok
[17:27] <taa> but honestly
[17:27] <taa> did any of you guys take that claim serious?
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> so your argument is a meta argument "well id dot his if i was scum" that doesnt clear you in my eyes but
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> if your behavior doesnt change by this day
[17:27] <mig__> taa why did you ask for medics
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> i will bandwagon you tomorrow
[17:27] <Original|Laptop> I did
[17:27] <DoctorHelvetica> no doubt about it
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> after you asked for medics
[17:28] <taa> i always do that
[17:28] <Kenpachi_> Taa
[17:28] <Kenpachi_> i did
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:28] <Kenpachi_> :D
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> do you think i'd be dumb enough to let a rber die day 1?
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> uggh
[17:28] <taa> also i die a lot
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> Yet
[17:28] <taa> so if i ask for a medic
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> you do a suicidal move
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> and expect to not die?
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im not getting into wifom
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> And you take a medic
[17:28] <taa> not by mafia any way
[17:28] <taa> i took a medic?
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> you're already
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> from players who are much more pro-town
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> wifoming
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> you could have
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> taa
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> for the record
[17:28] <BloodyC0bbler> so don't say you dont do it
[17:28] <Original|Laptop> you dont know who medic protected
[17:28] <DoctorHelvetica> im saying lal
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> something you agree with
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> since you wanted to lynch kenpachi off the bat
[17:29] <Original|Laptop> I agree with LaL at this point
[17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:29] <Kenpachi_> huh
[17:29] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi claimed green
[17:29] <BloodyC0bbler>
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> yes i know
[17:29] <Kenpachi_> i
[17:29] <Kenpachi_> i
[17:29] <Kenpachi_> i
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> taa claimed vig which was a lie and didn't get shot or roleblocked
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> thats way worse
[17:29] <Kenpachi_> I thought scouts were green
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> we all know kenpachi is dumb that gives him leeway
[17:29] <DoctorHelvetica> taa doesnt have that privelege
[17:30] <taa> lol
[17:30] <Kenpachi_> now i feel bad
[17:30] <taa> i still think it was a good move
[17:30] <Lucidity> you guys must be a blast to be around
[17:30] <Lucidity> i r l
[17:30] <taa> kenpachi i think ur smart <3
[17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> how was it a good move you accomplished nothing
[17:30] <Lucidity> with these superiority complexes
[17:30] <taa> well
[17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> jeejee doesn't look any more or less scummy because of what you did
[17:30] <Kenpachi_> it might have accomplished something
[17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> now you're on the chopping block for lying
[17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> something
[17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> only scum ever have to do
[17:30] <DoctorHelvetica> and it shoudl stay that way
[17:31] <taa> hmm
[17:31] <DoctorHelvetica> town bluff plans are stupid unless they're sure traps
[17:31] <taa> look
[17:31] <Original|Laptop> Yo mig/bc/red/barunder/lucid
[17:31] <Original|Laptop> what do you guys think
[17:31] <Original|Laptop> of this
[17:31] <DoctorHelvetica> youre just as annoying lucidity
[17:31] <redafk> btw guys
[17:31] <Lucidity> yes yes I"m dumb
[17:31] <DoctorHelvetica> i dont think kenpachi is dumb im just teasing him he's silly
[17:31] <redafk> i think taa
[17:31] <Kenpachi_> why are you accussing ghrur
[17:31] <redafk> is just cocky shitty town
[17:31] <taa> why would a vigi so carelessly claim vigi
[17:31] <taa> it doesnt make sense
[17:31] <redafk> he thinks he played well in arkham
[17:32] <redafk> so now thinks he is BOSSMODE
[17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> wifom you lied and nothing happened to you at night
[17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> if we have a dumb mafia like BC thinks
[17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> im surprised nothing happened
[17:32] <redafk> and is pulling off retarded shit because he thinks he is the greatest mafia player in the world
[17:32] <DoctorHelvetica> i didnt say you're dumb lucidity i said you're annoying
[17:33] <taa> Ok JeeJee, since you are probably not going to get lynched im going to hit you tonight. Unless you can convince me of your own innocence, and someone else's scummyness (yes im trigger happy)
[17:33] <taa> would someone seriously claim vigi that way?
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:33] <Original|Laptop> yes
[17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> yes
[17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:33] <taa> yes?
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> yeah
[17:33] <taa> thats so weird
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> on tl
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> sure
[17:33] <Lucidity> I thought it was obviously fake
[17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> TL people play
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> people suck here lol
[17:33] <BloodyC0bbler> weird
[17:33] <Lucidity> but what's the point in doing it then?
[17:33] <Original|Laptop> its called breadclaiming
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> there is no point
[17:33] <Lucidity> You're not going to draw scum bullets then
[17:33] <DoctorHelvetica> thats why its dumb
[17:34] <redafk> i posted my thoughs on taa
[17:34] <DoctorHelvetica> either way its dumb
[17:34] <redafk> in the thread
[17:34] <taa> look
[17:34] <redafk> think im fairly spot on
[17:34] <taa> you guys know how claiming VT is bad right?
[17:34] <Original|Laptop> VR?
[17:34] == redafk has changed nick to redFF1
[17:34] <Original|Laptop> oh
[17:34] <Original|Laptop> vanilla townie
[17:34] <taa> think of that scene
[17:34] <taa> where everyone steps forth
[17:34] <redFF1> taa please lecture us on mafia if your so damn good
[17:34] <Lucidity> someone still has to explain that one to me
[17:34] <Kenpachi_> Taa
[17:34] <taa> I AM SPARTACUS
[17:34] <Kenpachi_> there are many people who claim like that
[17:34] <Kenpachi_> Pandain, Coagulation
[17:34] <redFF1> taa i understand that as townie u wanna get shot to save blue roles
[17:34] <Original|Laptop> Me
[17:35] <redFF1> but
[17:35] <redFF1> you dont claim fucking vigilante
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[17:35] <Original|Laptop> uggggggh
[17:35] <taa> dude
[17:35] <redFF1> and then expect everyone go oh yeha he town
[17:37] <BloodyC0bbler> oh as a random note
[17:37] <BloodyC0bbler> i figured out one random reason
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> why troske would take a bullet
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> although its heavily wifomish
[17:38] <redFF1> say it
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> and not usable as real proof
[17:38] <taa> enlighten us
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> same ip
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> jackal and coag shoot eachother
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> for the same reason
[17:38] <Original|Laptop> ...
[17:38] <Original|Laptop> Sevryn has also done
[17:38] <Original|Laptop> jackshit
[17:38] <Original|Laptop> all game
[17:38] <BloodyC0bbler> yep
[17:38] <Original|Laptop> its not a half bad theory
[17:38] <Original|Laptop> tbh
[17:38] <Drazerk> BANDWAGON HERO
[17:39] <redFF1> so wait
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> its not half bad
[17:39] <Drazerk>
[17:39] <redFF1> what?
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> but
[17:39] <redFF1> im confused
[17:39] <Drazerk> severyn
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> its still unprovable
[17:39] <Drazerk> bandwagoner
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn and troske or roommates
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> or family
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> or something
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> same ip addy
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> as such if the other is red
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> is stands reason they would shoot the person
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> who could call them out in person no?
[17:39] <Drazerk> lol
[17:39] <BloodyC0bbler> lying in text is a fuck ton harder than lying in person
[17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:40] <taa> its a mafia team though
[17:40] <taa> its not sevryn vs the world
[17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> eh? if your down a man
[17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> and one person can easy peg someone on that team
[17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> you kill them
[17:40] <taa> i guess ur right
[17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> im not saying "hey guys sevryn is deff red"
[17:40] <taa> trotske was also obv town
[17:40] <taa> like
[17:40] <BloodyC0bbler> but it stands as a valid reason why anyone would waste a shot
[17:40] <redFF1> lol
[17:40] <redFF1> k
[17:40] <taa> we did some private digging into mig
[17:41] <taa> but
[17:41] <redFF1> taa: why did you fakeclaim vigi
[17:41] <redFF1> btw
[17:41] <taa> any other reason sevryn might be scum?
[17:41] <taa> lol
[17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> trotske could be obvious town
[17:41] <redFF1> im not listening to anything u say
[17:41] <redFF1> this game
[17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> but hes not good enough
[17:41] <redFF1> because i thin you are retarded
[17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> to actually lead a town
[17:41] <taa> this whole irc convo is getting copied in the trhread
[17:41] <redFF1> yeah
[17:41] <redFF1> trotske
[17:41] <redFF1> is not good
[17:41] <Original|Laptop> the first part already is
[17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> he makes no sense
[17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> as a shot
[17:41] <redFF1> blue snipe is only think
[17:41] <redFF1> that
[17:41] <redFF1> or he pmd a scum
[17:41] <BloodyC0bbler> unless its a blue snipe
[17:42] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[17:42] <redFF1> saying something
[17:42] <Drazerk> TAA - If it wasn't I would think you was all scum
[17:42] <Drazerk>
[17:42] <taa> if what wasnt?
[17:42] <Drazerk> recording IRC
[17:43] <taa> :s
[17:43] <Drazerk> Its like our greatest weapon and time zones hurt our chances if it isn't recorded
[17:43] <BloodyC0bbler> and more discussion happens here
[17:43] <BloodyC0bbler> than in thread
[17:43] <taa> yeah
[17:43] <taa> wich is bad imo
[17:44] <DoctorHelvetica> yeah thats why i wish we didnt have an irc lol
[17:44] <taa> to me it seems like he still is trying to set up a fake vig / vet claim to find the blues. add this scumminess to redFF's post and I feel we have a pretty good case vs Lucidity. ##Vote Lucidity
[17:44] <Original|Laptop> if I ever do a Pm game
[17:44] <Original|Laptop> im banning IRC
[17:44] <taa> trotske initially vote lucidity
[17:44] <DoctorHelvetica> easier to keep up with a thread
[17:44] <Original|Laptop> except for scum
[17:44] <redFF1> yeah taa
[17:44] <redFF1> isnt scum
[17:45] <redFF1> hes just a fucking idiot
[17:45] <taa> not nice man
[17:45] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[17:45] <Original|Laptop> Its true
[17:45] <Original|Laptop> brb eating
[17:45] <taa> i honestly thought no one would take it serious
[17:45] <BloodyC0bbler> so you were trying
[17:45] <BloodyC0bbler> to not get shot?
[17:45] <taa> but that could qualify me as an idiot
[17:46] <taa> partly
[17:46] <taa> it had a lot of good points
[17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> if you have no power role
[17:46] <taa> postulating no one would take it serious
[17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> why would you not aim to breadcrumb
[17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> a role
[17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> to get shot
[17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> rather than make up shit
[17:46] <BloodyC0bbler> to avoid getting hit
[17:46] <taa> good point
[17:46] <taa> i did a little of both
[17:46] <redFF1> taa read my post on u
[17:46] <taa> <3
[17:46] <redFF1> in the thread
[17:47] <redFF1> i think that sums it up nicely
[17:47] <taa> is it going to be positive?
[17:47] <BloodyC0bbler> yes
[17:47] <BloodyC0bbler> very
[17:48] <taa> well redff, i appreciate your attempts to not make it 2 personal
[17:48] <taa> gnight
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[17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> he redff1
[17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> hey*
[17:48] <redFF1> sup
[17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> i suddenly like
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> your day 1 finger pointing
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> at lucidity
[17:49] <redFF1> :O
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=8#156
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=29#569
[17:49] <redFF1> yeah
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> keep in mind mig
[17:49] <redFF1> i dont like him
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> isnt 100%
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> but
[17:49] <redFF1> yeah
[17:49] <redFF1> those 2 posts
[17:49] <redFF1> contradict
[17:49] <Lucidity> Mig is not a confirmed townie
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> are very
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> hes not
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> but seriously dude
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> Mig is very close to confirmed
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> who the fuck
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[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> shoots trotske
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> oh lol
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> Lucid
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> fucking leaves
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> after he knows hes wrong
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> rofl
[17:50] <Drazerk> lol
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> and grasping
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> wow
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> thats so sad
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> "oh shit i got caught"
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> I didnt like him before
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> But im almost sure now
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> Hes trying to cast doubt on Mig
[17:50] <Kenpachi_> loool
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&user=86738
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> add in that
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> he liked idea of day 2 confirmed
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> townie
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[17:52] <Drazerk> If JeeJee flips scum - Mig is confirmed
[17:52] <Original|Laptop> Mig
[17:52] <Drazerk> put it that way
[17:52] <Original|Laptop> is already pretty close to confirmed
[17:52] <Drazerk> I agree
[17:52] <BloodyC0bbler> aye
[17:53] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee flipping sadly does nothing to confirm me or drazy
[17:53] <BloodyC0bbler> who first
[17:53] <BloodyC0bbler> singled out varp?
[17:54] <DoctorHelvetica> i think sand or mig
[17:54] <DoctorHelvetica> idr
[17:56] <mig__> I did
[17:56] <mig__> I was first vote sand 2nd
[17:57] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=12#234
[17:57] <BloodyC0bbler> based on that post
[17:57] <BloodyC0bbler> it alone would make a ton of sense
[17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> of why mig would take a hit
[17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> it also would to me, imply redff and drH slightly more "confirmed" green than anything else
[17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> this is more for reds benefit
[17:58] <BloodyC0bbler> than drH's
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[18:04] <BloodyC0bbler> why the hell do people leave -_-
[18:04] <BloodyC0bbler> without saying shit
[18:06] <redFF1> trolololololoolol
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[18:07] <redFF1>
[18:07] <BloodyC0bbler> haha
[18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> man
[18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> i love the filter button
[18:09] <redFF1> i just pm'd nazgul
[18:09] <redFF1> to ask
[18:09] <redFF1> if he would let mafia forum have all button after 50 pages
[18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[18:09] <BloodyC0bbler> nice
[18:10] <BloodyC0bbler> time to play my monopoly scratch ticket then huge pst
[18:10] <BloodyC0bbler> post*
[18:10] <BloodyC0bbler> hurrah
[18:12] <Original|Laptop> ok
[18:12] <Original|Laptop> back
[18:12] <Original|Laptop> god i love Tacos
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 01:42 GMT
#604
On August 05 2011 10:31 youngminii wrote:
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On August 05 2011 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
To clarify:

TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee.
TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions.
BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.

Here is what's likely:

If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green.
If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red.
If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.

In other words, kill TAA/BC.

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


I love that by "trying to focus fire on jeejee day 1" was actually very late into the day. Misconstrued evidence.

You also neglect to mention

If BC is green it is more than likely Jeejee is red and taa is likely green
Or if TAA is green it is more than likely jeejee is red and BC is more than likely green
Or if JeeJee flips red, TAA and BC are more than likely green.


I love that you purposely miss scenarios that are actually relevant to the argument you are trying to make.

Killing JeeJee would almost fully clear or damn two players where as killing myself or TAA doesnt fully reveal the alignment of the other two players.

Very late into the day is still during the day. Stop throwing around words to make my argument appear weaker. It still happened and you guys still tried to protect Varp.

You are absolutely aware that lynching for information comes AFTER lynching for scum. You and TAA are very likely scum in my eyes, why should I go after the information route? You are scum and you are purposely trying to weaken my argument.


TAA is likely just an idiot townie, we had a long dissucssion on it. I highly reccommend you read both IRC logs i posted.

Lucidity is my biggest scumread at the moment:

Primarily because

-Scum didnt try to really divert the wagon to him despite him having some votes in the middle of the day.
-His reactions on IRC while could be being misrepresented say quite alot on the subject.
-Keeps casting doubt on Mig despite his supposed role and all his actions during D1 (Which were quite Pro-town)

I need to go over his posts one more time but it will probably be tommorrow when I have a clearer head, i sometimes find the need to step away from a game for a sec so when i come back i can reevaluate and maybe catch things i didnt find the day before etc.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 19:01 GMT
#640
Youngminii

YM has been getting scummier and scummier as the game goes on. just a few examples from D1

On August 03 2011 06:28 youngminii wrote:
nah i was just kidding

Anyway, I'd rather Mig die than Lucidity/Varpulis. I dunno, the latter two just seem so.. Normal? While Mig is screaming "I'M SCUM".

Maybe it's just me.

On August 03 2011 08:03 youngminii wrote:
i'm down for a varp lynch too

that post that lucidity just pointed out is pretty damn incriminating by itself


Oh wow, look at this. Id rather lynch kill mig than varpu/lucid because they are normal. next post is OH OK I ACTUALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK JUST LYNCH ONE LOLOLOL.

._.

On August 03 2011 04:15 youngminii wrote:
Mig is scum.

Stop it with that overly aggressive 'pressure' you are putting on people. You're asking everyone everything just for the sake of it. You've asked so many people about their opinions or tried to aggressively 'pressure' someone, but it's not pressure because you just back off straight away.

You are not an asshole, yet you are being an asshole (both in thread and in IRC). The only reason I can think of why you are doing this is because you want to appear to be doing something fruitful and active.

Happy?


So what your saying is, your not allowed at all to gather information or opinions at all because your being aggresive an backing off immeadiatly.

Hes gathering information hes perfectly allowed to do so when hes sharing it with town. Just because you disagree with his methods doesnt make him scum.


On August 03 2011 21:25 youngminii wrote:
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On August 03 2011 21:21 Curu wrote:
youngminii because he tunneled RoL for flimsy reasons in AA as scum and did nothing else, this game he's tunneling Mig for flimsy reasons. RoL and Mig are both players that scum would obviously fear, and a day 1 Mig lynch/Vig shot makes no sense because if he hasn't found scum by Day 2 that's a huge scumtell. His meta and trackrecord (nailing all scum in WaW2, AA, and one in PTP) are great for Town and terrible for scum.

Bad reasoning. I basically tunnel people in every game I play, scum or not.

Besides, one of my reasons for Mig being scum is along the lines of "he's a great player but he's playing shitty this game". Someone pointed out that it's too early to tell and if Mig is town then he'll catch a lot of scum, which I immediately agreed to and unvoted.

I feel bad for Mig, what a shitty meta. The guy who always kills scum, and is scum if he doesn't.


So now you tunnel Mig D1 and tunnel BC the entire game. Ok I will take that as a completely null tell from your meta.

Day 1: Wishy washy tunneler who really doesnt contribute to analysis at all other than calling out BC for lurking, and trying to push Mig with flimsy evidence.

DAY 2:

On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
To clarify:

TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee.
TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions.
BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.

Here is what's likely:

If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green.
If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red.
If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.

In other words, kill TAA/BC.

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


I think BC put this pretty well. He only put in certain scenarios that turn out in his favor.

but the worst part is the bolded section.

Its like you know that JeeJee is green and clear, its as if your sure he got DT checked. Your also pushing TAA and BC hard and you basically go OMGUS on BC later on after he posts analysis on him.

You then proceed to redicule RedFF making you seem more antagonistic.

YM is pretty scum in my eyes.

HOWEVER:

JeeJee has not been playing much better at all.

And YM has been trying to get heat off him the entire day while pushing TAA/BC when both are rather meh lynch targets at this point.

JeeJee as mig has mentioned has also claimed Medic. Therefore I find it highly likely that between YM seemingly knowing hes green JeeJees uselessness in thread and fakeclaim that both of these men are indeed scum.

I personally would think that of the two, JeeJee is godfather and as such is better to be lynched today than tommorrow.

YM is sadly while very scummy better lynched tommorrow.

##Vote: JeeJee


Oh and if YM calls me scummy for voting for JeeJee over him put it this way.

Hes evil as fuck but hes the lesser of two.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 19:59 GMT
#652
On August 06 2011 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
i spoke with mig and gave him my town-leans. maybe when you're leading the town you'll hear them as well. he made his decision and i know better than attempt to argue with a confirmed townie, since all of my posts will be read with bias and i'd be wasting my time. ccm comes to mind here. i'll let my flip talk for itself.


So what, your still not attempting to give us scum. You can give us all the town-leans you want but it just shows your trying to buddy up to people.

Not helping your case yet.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 20:00 GMT
#654
On August 06 2011 04:59 Sevryn wrote:
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On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

What makes you trust DrH over BC and JeeJee I think they are all very suspect


What makes us trust you, youve lurked for 30 hours and when your name pops up you resurface.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 20:12 GMT
#657
On August 06 2011 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
i spoke with mig and gave him my town-leans. maybe when you're leading the town you'll hear them as well. he made his decision and i know better than attempt to argue with a confirmed townie, since all of my posts will be read with bias and i'd be wasting my time. ccm comes to mind here. i'll let my flip talk for itself.


Except the situation in CCM is nothing like this situation?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 06 2011 01:29 GMT
#673
On August 06 2011 09:36 Kenpachi wrote:
IM GOING TO NAIL THE COFFIN. GG JEEJEE
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2011 02:41 JeeJee wrote:
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On August 03 2011 02:09 Mig wrote:
On August 03 2011 01:41 JeeJee wrote:
pressure votes are stupid, where did this trend come from? you know when you say "yeah this is a pressure vote", that's pretty much equivalent to "idk who to vote so i'm voting you, but i'm not actually suspicious of you because all you need to do is say something and i'll remove my vote from you".
nobody can seriously feel threatened from a pressure vote, so there's no 'pressure' it's just a throwaway vote


JeeJee you are correct on this point but what exactly does pointing it out contribute? You have 2 posts and both of them while correct are bland and useless. You commented on pressure votes and neglected to comment on whether you actually thought varp was scummy or not.

Who do you think is scum? What do you think about the 2 leading candidates varp/red?


it points out the fact that sandro's vote isn't a real vote. apparently not everybody realizes that pressure votes are a joke.

i think both of those candidates are a stupid idea. red is being ragged on due to him opposing a tempting plan, but not one without faults. his concerns are legitimate. claiming over-defensiveness as a scum-tell is something i particularly dislike, having been lynched for it multiple times as a townie. further, the people pushing him are useless people like minii who just jump on the hate with zero reasoning whatsoever.

the extent of minii's posts are as follows:
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On August 02 2011 16:26 youngminii wrote:
fairly certain redff is scum
he's playing exactly like that other game where i was scum with him
i'm sorry red but your scum play is so obvious

Fin.


varp is being ragged on due to wishy-washness. i just re-read his posts, and the tldr progression is as follows
-vigi dont shoot on hunches
-be active
-no problems re dayvig plan
-realizes its better to delay or outright not do the plan due to stacked hits
-random fos on trotske

i see re-evaluation there, not wishy-washiness. do you see otherwise? random fos are just as useless as pressure votes. sandro and varp are both bad in that department as far as i'm concerned. by itself though, it doesn't mean much, and there's nothing else yet.

as for me, i don't have scum leanings on anyone. town leans yes, scum leans no.

Varpulis' guardian angel. Clearly he defends Varpulis

Its funny cause, he calls RedFF scummy here but in that last line. he says no one is scummy.

On August 03 2011 12:42 JeeJee wrote:
actually screw it let's get the ball rolling.
anyone disagree with drazerk as a candidate?


Lets reiterate again, why did JeeJee look suspicious again? because he posted this when varp was the prime suspect (7 votes, and the other with most votes is Lucidity which is 2). Why would he be defending varp instead of busing him if he was mafia? varp flipped roleblocker.



On August 04 2011 05:14 JeeJee wrote:
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On August 04 2011 03:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
shinbi had no scum leanings, then in 10 hours without posting serious reasons he sheeps onto something I say to try and force a bandwagon on a player? Not only that, rather than push said bandwagon with any conviction, he makes his move then vanishes from the thread completely since.

As such, until he reappears to explain his actions I am throwing my vote there.

vote jeejee


i sheeped on you? that's news to me, considering i was the first one to bring up drazerk.

i still think the case against varp is terrible. it's pretty much equivalent to redff's case, which is equally bad. drazerk is still deliberately avoiding this thread while posting in others but sadly not enough people care. seems to be off to a wonderful start.

earlier you called RedFF scummy. [b]There are more quotes referring to the same case (RedFF being the same as Varpulis) but, i think i covered my point here. You defended Varpulis but attacked RedFF.

On August 04 2011 11:45 JeeJee wrote:
oh ghrur you're so amusing. i'd do a rebuttal but everything you wrote is so pointless, it works as its own rebuttal! hurrah.

SOOOOOOO ANTAGONISTIC

On August 04 2011 07:57 JeeJee wrote:
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On August 04 2011 07:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why are you being so antagonistic jeejee? we found a scum yet you're still basically opposing his lynch. there were reasons don't try to discredit this it wasn't all luck


how am i being antagonistic and to whom?
yeah, there were reasons for his lynch, but they weren't good ones. your analysis is marred by results. if he had flipped town you'd be "oh well they weren't the best of reasons but its day one anyway". the reasons you listed apply to redff just as much

lol



The next few posts are fights with BC. Theyre long and i dont feel like reading them as it is unnecessary to prove how scummy JeeJee is


On August 06 2011 04:33 JeeJee wrote:
@redff mig knows that. you have no reason to.

This was the response to when RedFF asked for who JeeJee protected. i dunno but i dont think that is something secretive :l

Oh and before a few of these quotes, there were THREE people who claimed Medic to mig. Two of which believed 3 medics are impossible for a game like this. DrH had also stated the scumminess of JeeJee's arguments (which is that of foreshadowing if i read that correctly)

JeeJee has been so scummy that i find this analysis redundant, but i couldnt resist saying GG JEEJEE. And my posting history sucked so i wanted to say something that says something MAYBE someone hopefully missed so i take some credit and make myself look better.

gg

tldr; JeeJee was very scummy and contradictory.


Fun Fact: We already knew GG was scummy.
OriginalName
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August 06 2011 02:16 GMT
#677
On August 06 2011 10:52 redFF wrote:
Ok it seems like Jeejee is gonna be lynched. I don't wanna waste half a day so lets move on to other suspects. What do people think of my case on Ghrur? What do people think of lucid? What do people think of Chaos13? Of munke? Of ym? i dont want this thread to die.


I think your case on Ghrur is full of shit, but thats just me.
OriginalName
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August 06 2011 19:16 GMT
#703
On August 07 2011 04:15 youngminii wrote:
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On August 07 2011 02:38 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
youngminii you seem convinced that jee jee is green, care to explain?

I'm the DT and I checked him.

No wait, I'm not, I'm not a liar.


LAL.

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ok not really.
OriginalName
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August 06 2011 21:10 GMT
#719
Well that was totally unexpected.
OriginalName
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August 06 2011 21:11 GMT
#722
Actually now that I think about it 2 RB and GF is kinda weird imo.
OriginalName
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August 06 2011 22:35 GMT
#747
On August 07 2011 07:18 Mig wrote:
Munke/YM should be killed next.

Mafia should probably just concede.


Im actually more for Munk-E than YM tommorrow only because YM's play always confuses the hell out of me and I want to see more behaviour to base the lynch off of.
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 15:33 GMT
#771
On August 07 2011 12:17 youngminii wrote:
yeah ok just vig me
clearly i'm being counter productive to town and i don't want day 3 to just be "yeah kill ym no discussion"

sorry folks, will try better next time <3


So its basically HERP DERP IM GONNA COPY THE SCUMBUDDY now huh?
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 16:58 GMT
#774
MOD PERMISSION EDIT>
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 16:58 GMT
#775
NINJAD
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 19:18 GMT
#799
Lynch Munk-E todays guys im more sure of him being scum than YM at the moment.

##Vote: Munk-E
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 19:25 GMT
#801
On August 08 2011 04:23 Mig wrote:
Yea considering the plan worked and mafia actually shot drh/bc I think syllo/drh/myself/bc/ON are about as close to confirmed as you can get before people die, since we were the only ones who knew about the plan. So if there is a fake vet claim it almost certainly came from munke. If munke actually flips Vet we can reconsider and question whether one of the others is lying or if we actually had 5 vets. But having more vets than there are mafia seems unbalanced.

##Vote: Munk-E


Reds pretty clear too, he also knew about it.
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 19:30 GMT
#803
On August 08 2011 04:28 Mig wrote:
Oh who told red about the plan?


Me i was testing him abit before the lynch went through.
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 19:32 GMT
#806
On August 08 2011 04:31 Mig wrote:
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On August 08 2011 04:30 OriginalName wrote:


Me i was testing him abit before the lynch went through.


Loose lips sink ships ON!


I needed to know if he was just being silly or mafia, so I took a gamble. Not like we were behind or anything.
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 20:20 GMT
#823
FUN FUN FUN FUN IRC CONVO ON THE WEEKEND

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[14:39] * Mig__ (~Mig@ip70-189-148-111.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #loonybin
[14:39] <Lucidity> I dunno
[14:39] <Lucidity> something fishy is going on
[14:39] <Mig__> murder lucid!
[14:40] <Lucidity> I agree
[14:40] <syllogism> maybe we should lynch lucidity, the other mafia rb first? =P
[14:40] <OriginalName> O_o
[14:40] <OriginalName> no
[14:40] <OriginalName> Munk-E today
[14:40] <Lucidity> My death will point to at least one scum I think
[14:40] <OriginalName> then lucid or YM tommorrow
[14:40] <Mig__> who is it going to point to lucid lol
[14:40] <Lucidity> I am a Vet
[14:40] <syllogism> lol
[14:40] <Mig__> ........
[14:40] <OriginalName> orllly
[14:40] <Lucidity> So one of the previous claims is fake
[14:40] <Mig__> .................................................
[14:40] <OriginalName> really dude
[14:40] <Lucidity> Yes really
[14:40] <Mig__> what the fuck is going on
[14:40] <OriginalName> .................................
[14:41] <OriginalName> Lucid
[14:41] <Mig__> why didnt you claim to me
[14:41] <OriginalName> are you fucking with us
[14:41] <Mig__> yesterday?
[14:41] <Lucidity> I ddin't trust you
[14:41] <Lucidity> didn't *
[14:41] <OriginalName> WHY NOT
[14:41] <OriginalName> FFS
[14:41] <Mig__> .........
[14:41] <Mig__> I am honestly wondering
[14:41] <Mig__> if you have given up
[14:41] <Lucidity> What reason was there to?
[14:41] <Mig__> and you are trolling
[14:41] <OriginalName> I dont even know anymore
[14:41] <OriginalName> we still lynch Munk-E today
[14:41] <OriginalName> we can discuss this
[14:41] <Lucidity> I saw no reason not to claim to a non-confirmed townie
[14:41] <OriginalName> tommorrow
[14:41] <OriginalName> ...
[14:42] <OriginalName> except
[14:42] <Mig__> lucid
[14:42] <Lucidity> er
[14:42] <Mig__> you are mafia
[14:42] <OriginalName> he is basically confirmed
[14:42] <Lucidity> -not
[14:42] <Lucidity> I don't give a rats ass who he lynched on Day 1 ;p
[14:42] <OriginalName> yup
[14:42] <Mig__> your silly vet claim is not going to fool me
[14:42] <OriginalName> Hes mafia
[14:42] <Lucidity> I shared the same concersn as him
[14:42] <Lucidity> and I'm not confirmed
[14:42] <Lucidity> Why would I randomly claim Vet now?
[14:42] <OriginalName> who did you guys shoot last night lucid
[14:42] <OriginalName> WIfom
[14:42] <Lucidity> And you're lynching Munk-E for claming Vet?
[14:42] <Lucidity> lol'd tbh
[14:42] <OriginalName> no
[14:42] <OriginalName> were lynching him
[14:42] <Lucidity> yeah I know it's wifom
[14:43] <OriginalName> for being scummy as fuck
[14:43] <Lucidity> but it's also retarded
[14:43] <OriginalName> and claiming vet
[14:43] <OriginalName> its not just claiming vet
[14:43] <OriginalName> Cause if it was just claiming vet
[14:43] <Lucidity> right
[14:43] <OriginalName> and him looking remotely townie
[14:43] <Lucidity> well either way
[14:43] <OriginalName> id lynch BC
[14:43] <Lucidity> if you consider everyone "confirmed" in that claimed group
[14:43] <Lucidity> then we have 5 vets
[14:43] <Lucidity> and that seems a tad high to me
[14:43] <Kurumi> how do You
[14:43] <Mig__> no
[14:43] <Kurumi> pm people
[14:43] <Lucidity> You can lynch me tomorrow
[14:43] <Mig__> we have 4 vets
[14:43] <Kurumi> here
[14:44] <Mig__> 4 vets 2 fake
[14:44] <Lucidity> double click on a name Kurumi
[14:44] <Mig__> you/munke
[14:44] <Lucidity> or type /q <nick>
[14:44] <Lucidity> /q Lucidity
[14:44] <Lucidity> yeah yeah
[14:44] <Lucidity> I'm scum
[14:44] <Lucidity> the most retarded scum in existence
[14:44] <Mig__> agreed
[14:45] <Lucidity> but when I flip town, you better not go "oh lol I guess we have 5"
[14:45] <Mig__> no I wont
[14:45] <Mig__> I will lynch munke
[14:45] <Lucidity> lol
[14:45] <OriginalName> then we will lynch you
[14:45] <Lucidity> after we're both dead
[14:45] <OriginalName> then YM/BC
[14:45] <OriginalName> then sevryn
[14:45] <Mig__> how many vets do you think there are this game lucid
[14:45] <OriginalName> Then Barunder
[14:45] <OriginalName> Than ghrur
[14:45] <OriginalName> then red
[14:45] <Mig__> do you really think we have 6?
[14:45] <OriginalName> until we find mafia
[14:45] <Lucidity> But why do you keep posting the names of blues in thread
[14:46] <Lucidity> they still have a RB
[14:46] <Lucidity> they can 1shot Vets
[14:46] <Mig__> because everyone was going to be like uhhh
[14:46] <Mig__> how did no one die
[14:46] <Mig__> and munke claimed
[14:46] <Lucidity> then let them think the mafia hit a medic protected tguy
[14:46] <Lucidity> or a vet
[14:46] <Lucidity> or a vet
[14:46] <Lucidity> no need to give out names?
[14:46] <Mig__> ok but if munke dies and flips vet
[14:46] <syllogism> it doesnt really matter, the game is over
[14:46] <Mig__> people need to know who to look at
[14:47] <Lucidity> that's what you think
[14:47] <syllogism> why dont you
[14:47] <Mig__> and besides mafia is going to shoot me tonight anyway
[14:47] <Lucidity> I'm basically going to be lynched now
[14:47] <syllogism> what does the great scumhunter lucidity see
[14:47] <syllogism> what we dont
[14:47] <Lucidity> a big ass conspiracy
[14:47] <Lucidity> someone in that group is scum
[14:47] <syllogism> thart
[14:47] <Lucidity> the "near confirmed" group
[14:47] <Lucidity> guaranteed
[14:47] <syllogism> why not munk-e
[14:47] <OriginalName> ok
[14:47] <OriginalName> then who is it
[14:47] <OriginalName> lucid
[14:47] <Lucidity> I will enjoy my "I told you so" after the game
[14:47] <Lucidity> I don't know
[14:47] <OriginalName> Ok
[14:47] <OriginalName> ty
[14:47] <OriginalName> Go away now scum
[14:48] <Lucidity> rofl
[14:48] <Lucidity> What have I done that is scummy?
[14:48] <Lucidity> Please post the case
[14:48] <OriginalName> Ok
[14:48] <OriginalName> You calim
[14:48] <OriginalName> one of us is scum in the group
[14:48] <OriginalName> but have no evidence on who it is
[14:48] <syllogism> why would you claim in public anyway
[14:48] <OriginalName> Nor are even making a guess at who it is
[14:48] <OriginalName> Then
[14:48] <OriginalName> you try to cast doubt on us
[14:48] <Mig__> lucid how many vets do you think there are then
[14:48] <Kurumi>

[14:48] <Kurumi> durr
[14:48] <OriginalName> to try to sway the votes away
[14:48] <Lucidity> I'm a Vet ON
[14:48] <Mig__> you say one of me/bc/syllo/drh is lying
[14:48] <Mig__> what about munkee
[14:48] <Lucidity> and there are 5 other Vet lcaims
[14:48] <Kurumi> kind of nsfw
[14:48] <Lucidity> someone is lying
[14:49] <Mig__> just how many vets do you expect there to be
[14:49] <Lucidity> Not 5 or 6.
[14:49] <Mig__> so 2 people are lying
[14:49] <Mig__> which 2
[14:49] <Mig__> I was shot and one of drh/bc was shot tonight
[14:49] <Mig__> so there arent exactly a lot of other people left
[14:50] <Lucidity> Well Munk-E is probably most likely
[14:50] <Lucidity> just because I thought he was scum before his claim
[14:50] <Lucidity> next up are the people who took mafia hits
[14:50] <Lucidity> because that could be coordinated -.-
[14:51] <Mig__> yea I am sure it was coordinated
[14:51] <Lucidity> lol
[14:51] <Mig__> btw you know we lynched jeejee
[14:51] <Mig__> because of these claims
[14:51] <Mig__> so I guess
[14:51] <Mig__> mafia coordinated this to lynch jeejee and then also wasted a kp
[14:51] <Lucidity> Well if you consider everyone in that group confirmed because of that
[14:51] <Mig__> all to buy sick town cred
[14:51] <syllogism> hey if you and munk-e flip vet
[14:51] <Mig__> what a monster mafia plan
[14:51] <Lucidity> then something is fucked
[14:52] <syllogism> we will be lynching our other vets next
[14:52] <Lucidity> Thank you
[14:52] <Lucidity> That is all I want
[14:52] <Lucidity> and mig
[14:52] <Lucidity> everyone in that group
[14:52] <Lucidity> Until you find the scum
[14:52] <Lucidity> when did red hear about this plan?
[14:52] <Lucidity> btw
[14:52] <OriginalName> uhhh
[14:52] <Lucidity> would mafia have had time to react to it?
[14:52] <OriginalName> Before JeeJee was lynched
[14:52] <OriginalName> like
[14:53] <OriginalName> midday
[14:53] <Lucidity> so red should join that list
[14:53] <OriginalName> I may have had a few drinks that night ._.
[14:53] <Lucidity> lynch me tomorrow if you think I'm lying
[14:53] <OriginalName> OH we will be
[14:53] <OriginalName> btw
[14:53] <Lucidity> but it will definitely get you a scum
[14:53] <OriginalName> I gurantee it
[14:53] <OriginalName> Yup
[14:53] <OriginalName> it will be you
[14:53] <OriginalName> now go away
[14:53] <Lucidity> That's great
[14:53] <OriginalName> your annoying
[14:53] <Lucidity> rofl
[14:53] <Lucidity> You're so rude
[14:53] <syllogism> DrH
[14:54] <syllogism> did you take a hit?
[14:54] <Lucidity> and you can't spell you're
[14:54] <Lucidity> -.-
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 20:37 GMT
#828
On August 08 2011 05:36 Barundar wrote:
Lulz. Can we lynch YM?


yes.
OriginalName
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August 07 2011 22:51 GMT
#841
On August 08 2011 07:31 Munk-E wrote:
Oh wtf! You guys lynch me in a half hour before i even get to claim?

W/e we still win.


You claimed to mig.
OriginalName
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August 08 2011 19:13 GMT
#898
On August 09 2011 04:12 ghrur wrote:
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On August 09 2011 04:04 Mig wrote:
Sevryn is someone we could consider. He has the connection to trotske day 1. He pushed for draz with jeejee. And the timing is weird. He doesn't post at all but he appears right after both day posts.


Not to mention he tried to cast doubt on DrH, seems defensive, and pulls the "You'll be sorry after I die" card as a defense.


I really think the red kill is an attempt to cast more doubt onto the Vet squad. I am just going to point out that the person who was doing the most of that yesterday was Lucidity.
OriginalName
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August 08 2011 21:36 GMT
#902
hammered.
OriginalName
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August 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#923
Well guys back to the drawing board.
OriginalName
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August 09 2011 04:09 GMT
#924
Lucidity:

On August 02 2011 08:29 Lucidity wrote:
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On August 02 2011 08:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if you read my posts i provided reasons

1. we dont know if there are more than 1 doctor which is kinda important
2. mafia can stack hits to kill the vig
3. vig could shoot doctor ruining everything
4. vig will probably hit town its rare you get a mafia on day 1 much less a successful day 1 vig

here ar emore reasons i havent provided yet
5. mafia can use this to keep town focused on the blue network/suspicious of other peoples claims and put attention on the vig and off of post analysis which is what wins games for town

what do you consider a real reason it would be nice if instead of unconditional instant support for someone elses plan which is mildly suspicious you read my posts and if my reasons aren't good enough at least say why instead of just saying "youre scum" lol

"we've already found 2 scum" its day 1 dont be ridiculous

1. Medics are basically the only problem I see at the moment. I don't think that qualifies as a reason to instantly discard the plan.

2. Having Mafia stack hits reduces their KP, which isn't a bad thing. We'll still have no overlaps on Night 1 from blues.

3. What?

4. That's the case on Day 2 as well.

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On August 02 2011 07:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On August 02 2011 07:26 Mig wrote:
No just tell the vigs who to hit, medics who to protect, dts who to check. All he has to do is make sure nobody is overlapping or shooting each other. As long as the day vig doesn't reveal anything else mafia isn't going to gain very much information from it.

if this happens which i hope it doesnt i really hope you're not suggesting he openly tells the blues what to do in irc/thread

Another terrible attempt to stop the plan. Why would he be suggesting that?



Backs mafia plan, when reasonable evidence is posed against it trys to keep it moving by antagonizing DrH.

On August 02 2011 19:35 Lucidity wrote:
Haha, I guess I was still in the Asylum mindset with mass blue everywhere - somehow thought that all 7 blue roles listed would be in the game. ~4 blues make sense and we're very unlikely to have 2 medics in that, so a plan to coordinate them this early isn't actually that great.

I think the only time that we should be claiming is if Mafia only have 1 KP left or if a Day Vig hits a Vet, leaving us with 2 confirmed townies. One of them will survive the night and be able to pass on info~

redFF, forever RED?


As soon as he realizes its not going through posts a lame excuse to his change of heart. Keeps on pushing Red after a somewhat decent analysis is posted on him. (Red was Town btw).


On August 03 2011 06:38 Lucidity wrote:
You're still misunderstanding that post. I was simply telling the people who were whining to stop it and do what they consider to be useful. I wasn't telling THE WHOLE TOWN to do it. And I certainly wasn't referring to myself. I think the discussion needed to happen so that we could see all the holes in the plan. It also provided a platform to start scumhunting and it even provided a great scum candidate in Varp.

If you want to continue the discussion about how your reasoning was bad I'd be happy to do it in PM. I feel it's useless spam in the thread.


TRYS TO STYM IN THREAD DISSCUSSION.
On August 07 2011 03:02 Lucidity wrote:
I've got stuff to do and places to be. So:
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19:37.21 ( taa ) i think
19:37.27 ( taa ) chaos is the 4th scum
19:37.45 ( taa ) like
19:37.54 ( taa ) he tries to divert the votes to munk e
19:41.05 ( ON|AFK ) taa
19:41.07 ( ON|AFK ) wait till
19:41.10 ( ON|AFK ) jeejee flips
19:41.12 ( ON|AFK ) to speculate
19:41.14 ( ON|AFK ) on scum number
19:41.15 ( ON|AFK ) lol
19:41.17 ( taa ) ok
19:42.53 ( Lucidity ) I don't think any scum is under the illusion that the vote can jump to someone else
19:42.53 ( taa ) Wishy-washy doesn't even begin to explain this. He just won't make up his mind! While I'm not sure this indicates him 100% as being scum, it is VERY suspicious. Unfortunately however, I don't think it's possible to brand him as scum from JUST this. but he's certainly quite possibly scum.
19:43.00 ( Lucidity ) they're probably all on the bandwagon already
19:43.12 ( taa ) read that quote
19:43.13 ( taa ) lol
19:43.26 ( Lucidity ) Munk-E is mad scum
19:43.27 ( taa ) but he's certainly quite possibly scum.
19:43.33 ( Lucidity ) I was going to post chaos' analysis actually
19:43.43 ( Lucidity ) if JeeJee filps medic
19:43.49 ( alanismorisette ) yeah
19:43.51 ( Lucidity ) i think BC is scum
19:43.57 ( alanismorisette ) u guys are too set on lynching jeejee
19:44.05 ( alanismorisette ) Lucidity: if u think that why is ur vote on jeejee
19:44.11 ( Lucidity ) my vote is nowhere
19:44.14 ( Lucidity ) I haven't been here today
19:44.26 ( Lucidity ) I was just busy reading now
19:44.27 ( alanismorisette ) oh its not
19:44.29 ( alanismorisette ) k
19:45.01 ( Lucidity ) Munk-E was the much better candidate at the start of the day imo
19:45.07 ( Lucidity ) but JeeJee kind of dug his own grave
19:45.14 ( Lucidity ) culminating with his selfvote
19:45.23 ( Lucidity ) double you tea eff mate
19:46.00 ( Lucidity ) Why did Mig reveal the names of all the claimed medics?
19:46.06 ( Lucidity ) JeeJee was going to be lynched anyway
19:46.08 ( Lucidity ) there was no reason to
19:46.16 ( alanismorisette ) i guess he wants full disclosure
19:46.20 ( alanismorisette ) to town
19:46.22 ( alanismorisette ) ?
19:46.24 ( Lucidity ) But with the names out in the open, when the medics staart dying
19:46.32 ( alanismorisette ) Kurumi:
19:46.32 ( Lucidity ) he can say he wasn't the only one with access to the names


Voted JeeJee. If he's really medic he fucked up big time. Also BC should be looked at if he does. Will post more during Night 2 if that happens.

Munk-E is scummy scum scum. Basically I agree with the general vibe of chaos' post.


Sheeping.

On August 05 2011 22:35 Lucidity wrote:
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On August 05 2011 10:42 OriginalName wrote:
On August 05 2011 10:31 youngminii wrote:
On August 05 2011 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
To clarify:

TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee.
TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions.
BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.

Here is what's likely:

If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green.
If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red.
If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.

In other words, kill TAA/BC.

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


I love that by "trying to focus fire on jeejee day 1" was actually very late into the day. Misconstrued evidence.

You also neglect to mention

If BC is green it is more than likely Jeejee is red and taa is likely green
Or if TAA is green it is more than likely jeejee is red and BC is more than likely green
Or if JeeJee flips red, TAA and BC are more than likely green.


I love that you purposely miss scenarios that are actually relevant to the argument you are trying to make.

Killing JeeJee would almost fully clear or damn two players where as killing myself or TAA doesnt fully reveal the alignment of the other two players.

Very late into the day is still during the day. Stop throwing around words to make my argument appear weaker. It still happened and you guys still tried to protect Varp.

You are absolutely aware that lynching for information comes AFTER lynching for scum. You and TAA are very likely scum in my eyes, why should I go after the information route? You are scum and you are purposely trying to weaken my argument.


TAA is likely just an idiot townie, we had a long dissucssion on it. I highly reccommend you read both IRC logs i posted.

Lucidity is my biggest scumread at the moment:

Primarily because

-Scum didnt try to really divert the wagon to him despite him having some votes in the middle of the day.
-His reactions on IRC while could be being misrepresented say quite alot on the subject.
-Keeps casting doubt on Mig despite his supposed role and all his actions during D1 (Which were quite Pro-town)

I need to go over his posts one more time but it will probably be tommorrow when I have a clearer head, i sometimes find the need to step away from a game for a sec so when i come back i can reevaluate and maybe catch things i didnt find the day before etc.


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[17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> i suddenly like
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> your day 1 finger pointing
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> at lucidity
[17:49] <redFF1> :O
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=8#156
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=29#569
[17:49] <redFF1> yeah
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> keep in mind mig
[17:49] <redFF1> i dont like him
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> isnt 100%
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> but
[17:49] <redFF1> yeah
[17:49] <redFF1> those 2 posts
[17:49] <redFF1> contradict
[17:49] <Lucidity> Mig is not a confirmed townie
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> are very
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> hes not
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> but seriously dude
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> Mig is very close to confirmed
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> who the fuck
[17:50] == Lucidity [~nnscript@Lucidity.users.quakenet.org] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )]
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> shoots trotske
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> oh lol
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> Lucid
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> fucking leaves
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> after he knows hes wrong
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> rofl
[17:50] <Drazerk> lol
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> and grasping
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> wow
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> thats so sad
[17:50] <BloodyC0bbler> "oh shit i got caught"
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> I didnt like him before
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> But im almost sure now
[17:50] <Original|Laptop> Hes trying to cast doubt on Mig
[17:50] <Kenpachi_> loool
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&user=86738
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> add in that
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> he liked idea of day 2 confirmed
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> townie
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-


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On August 05 2011 18:14 Barundar wrote:
Mig is pretty clear town, he was already by night time for leading the varp lynch, and the missing kp in the day post just adds to that. I don't see a reason not to claim to him.


I'm not sure why no one can see this, but Mig is not confirmed town. The only way to confirm your role is to shoot someone in the Day or to die. Mig hasn't done either. Yes he looks very pro town. No he isn't confirmed.

I didn't ragequit IRC as is being suggested. This happened at approx 1am my time. I was tired and busy shutting down programs. I read the thread, I read a few lines on IRC. I replied and I quit. I didn't stay around, because I had plans of putting my head on my pillow, not arguing about Mig.

I think my position has produced some interesting results at least. This is my first game with BC, but everyone always suggests that he is a Veteran and an amazing player. The way he reacted to my position suggests otherwise:

[17:48] <BloodyC0bbler> i suddenly like
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> your day 1 finger pointing
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> at lucidity
[17:49] <redFF1> :O
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=8#156
[17:49] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=29#569

Here he contrasts me being pro-confirming to a confirmed townie and being against it when it's Mig. This is a terrible comparison, because Mig isn't a confirmed townie. He's trying to show me contradicting myself by misrepresenting the situation. Essentially scum painting.

[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&user=86738
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> add in that
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> he liked idea of day 2 confirmed
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> townie
[17:51] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-

Again, he's implying that I'm contradicting myself. I wasn't. A Day 2 confirmed townie is great. Mig isn't one of those.

Why would such a great player make such silly mistakes?

Now, I've had a slight uneasiness with Mig ever since he PMd me early on Day 1.

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Original Message From Mig:
Hey,

I really like your observations and I agree with most of what you had said.

Varp starts off with attempting to appear super pro town but shortly after he falls into making bland vague statements without taking any stands.

Varp and chaos both attacked trotske and both had very poor reasoning behind their attacks. Along with that I think there were logic errors in both of their arguments against sand's plan. Definitely very suspicious of both of them, although chaos' post defending himself against syllo made him seem a bit more townie to me.

Drh really not sure yet. I am not familiar enough with his meta. BC has said that Drh is fearless as scum and very willing to push mafia objectives openly. Where as when he is town he is a lot less sure of himself. So right now I would lean slightly scum but I really want to see him call some people out and see him do some scum hunting before I feel strongly one way or the other about him.

Besides them I have been in contact with bc/sandro/curu/syllo I feel like at least one of them is very likely scum just from a balance perspective. Right now I would lean curu being scum because he hasn't been nearly as aggressive as he was in AA as town. However that is just an early suspicion.

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Original Message From Lucidity:
Hi there

redFF is the scummiest at the moment. He's essentially doing what he did in Arkham's Asylum. Takes a position with no real reasoning (the majority of the reasons he gave are terrible) and is overly defensive. He seems to "joke around" to look like a careless townie.

I don't really have an opinion on chaos yet. I didn't really like his comment on the fake medic. The same thing with info gained from a dead townie. By Day 3 there is always info from every death, unless the player perma lurked. Need more info to get a read on him.

Both redFF and Vaprulis made posts referencing the Engineer, which isn't present in the game. Their first posts also contained the same generic town advice regarding Town KP. Found that interesting. Might be a link there.

Varp is initially concerned about a potential mass amount of blues and KP, but soon after mentions that we're not likely to have many blues at all. His latest FoS feels forced. As if he feels obligated to throw around suspicion and chose a random post to do so.

What are your thoughts on them? And drH?

Original Message From Mig:
Hello!

I hope you are not mafia again lucidity!

Who do you think is scummy so far? What do you think about chaos/varp/redff?


As you can see I made a very basic reply. He replied with, "I really like your observations!". To me that's not how a townie would react. It's almost as if he's trying to make me like him by complimenting a bland analysis, agreeing with what I had to say. This is something that scum does. They want you to like them. They want you to trust them. When two townies interact in PMs they are both suspicious of the other one. They don't try to have the other like them, because he could be scum. Obviously this doesn't make Mig scum, but it didn't sit well with me and I was wary of him ever since this exchange.

In AA we had a similar scenario where Palmar effectively lynched scum on his own on Day 2. Many people hailed him as a confirmed townie and advocated a mass claim to him. Palmar turned out to be an anti-town role.

Mig appears very pro-town at the moment, but he is not confirmed town. I don't like mass claiming to non-confirmed town.

I have to ask though, why are people so keen to mass claim to him? If he is town, then we gain the benefit of an organised night. If Kenpachi's RB claim was real, then we also more than 4 Blue's most likely, which makes night organisation more useful. If Mig is red though, we lose every blue in the game? It's a gamble when we don't need to take one. I don't like it.



TAA's claim is confusing. It's bad as either town or scum. While there are occasions where it is acceptable to lie as Town (RoL in AA for example. His plan was good and had the chance to work), this wasn't one of them. There was absolutely no pro-town outcome on the cards. Then again, I can't see the pro-scum outcome either? Other than possible confusion? But that's quite risky for minimal reward. It's fucked. If we don't find a real scum candidate (i.e. one who actually acted pro-red) we should turn to LAL. It has the added benefit of discouraging townies from lying in the future too.


I point back to D2. Uses past games as reasons and he slips through again.

2) I only changed my view only because popular opinion changed


HOLY SHIT SHEEP MORE.

Why am I not being grouped with the Vets?


Fakeclaim moar.

I find Lucid Scummy.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 09 2011 04:10 GMT
#925
Mig appears very pro-town at the moment, but he is not confirmed town. I don't like mass claiming to non-confirmed town.

I have to ask though, why are people so keen to mass claim to him? If he is town, then we gain the benefit of an organised night. If Kenpachi's RB claim was real, then we also more than 4 Blue's most likely, which makes night organisation more useful. If Mig is red though, we lose every blue in the game? It's a gamble when we don't need to take one. I don't like it.


FORGOT THIS:

You claimed after saying it was a gamble and didnt like it causing a huge clusterfuck a couple days ago.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 09 2011 04:36 GMT
#928
On August 09 2011 13:20 Curu wrote:
Well Town, let's get off fucking IRC where everyone just talks about FF6 and cooking and dead RedFF is the MOST ACTIVE PERSON. I mean when a person who can't say anything about the game is the most active in the IRC it's clearly useless.

This game is not won. Don't go into IDGAF mode. This thread needs life.

I want to point out chaos:

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On August 02 2011 09:20 chaos13 wrote:
DrH has the right idea here. Yes, confirmed townies are excellent. However, mafia can easily fake claim a role like medic or vig, and then we would need to waste our DT checks in order to confirm those claims. Not only that, but we have no idea who the day vig actually is. If it's in the hands of a weaker player, that could lead to complete and utter disaster. Having one player coordinate all the actions of the blues is never a good thing. There is far too much room for error in such a situation, especially since mafia are able to PM and influence the game as well. Ultimately, however, it is up to the individuals with the roles to decide what to do. Discussion about this is very good, but I would rather not waste all day with it. Just something to keep in mind if we're still arguing about it in 24 hours.



Vigis, because there are probably a lot of you in here: Do not shoot unless it is at confirmed scum. If you feel you must shoot anyway, take out lurkers and liars. This sort of common sense is all too often ignored, and results in dead town. Even take DT claims with a grain of salt. If analysis points to a player being town when a claimed check has shown red, proceed with caution. It could be a miller or a scum's fake claim in order to waste a vig shot, especially if the claimed DT player has been under suspicion.


First post jumping in extremely late on the sandroba plan issue. Feels like he just waited until sides had developed, then chose one and jumped on it. He contributed no original ideas or arguments on it, merely following what was already said in the thread. His first post was completely full of bland generic advice, in fact this entire post is the picture of appearing to contribute without actually contributing anything at all.

He was pretty wishy washy on the Varpulis/Drazerk issue; he agrees that Varpulis looks worse:

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On August 03 2011 11:37 chaos13 wrote:
On August 03 2011 11:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
At the moment I am not feeling either Varp lynch or the lucidity lynch. Factor in both at the moment are being more active than most players in the game, I would be more inclined to at least let them live another cycle. I however don't like when players come in to hop on bandwagons or attempt to start them then vanish. It irks me completely. As such, until Drazerk comes back into the thread to at least play / explain his inactivity I suggest we move our lynch to him.

I would rather lynch someone appearing scummy / useless than someone who is being linked as scummy and is active. Their activity will help clear / damn them whereas inactivity doesn't give us dick all to work with.


I support this statement, with a slight exception. I don't like the way Varpulis is looking so far, and I would be okay with voting/lynching him. Drazerk is interesting though, and I'll consider placing my vote on him instead of Varp. Lurking is extremely scummy, especially after attempting to instigate a bandwagon on someone. I don't like the Lucidity wagon at all. Something about it just feels off to me, and I feel that Lucid has been playing pro-town, sharing thoughts and developing logical reads.


In a post that is also really wishy washy and not really taking either side. He does say he finds Varpulis worse. However, when a bit of traction began picking up on the Drazerk wagon (ON and Sevyrn agree against Drazerk), this happens:

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On August 03 2011 21:11 chaos13 wrote:
My vote today will be going on Drazerk.

On August 02 2011 08:41 Drazerk wrote:
##Vote RedFF

Opposing sand's plan with no real reasons while defending himself like a mad man in IRC when he has no real reason to defend himself yet.


This is the post in which he initially accused redFF. Note the complete lack of actual evidence. It was until his suspect actually encouraged him to post the irc log that he did so, and that arrived almost 20 minutes after this quoted post. Then, as you all know, he completely disappeared while posting actively elsewhere on the site.

Let's lynch ourselves a scum day 1.

##Vote: Drazerk


No new evidence had been brought up, nothing else concrete, just a few people starting to lean towards Drazerk. I feel like this indicated to him it was safe to put his vote down now so, despite thinking Varpulis was worse, he goes ahead and votes Drazerk.

Once JeeJee was under fire he posted no opinion on him despite that being the hot topic and instead came up with a big wall of text about Munk-E.

Let's start up discussion people.

##Vote chaos13


Btw we are having a decent disscussion on IRC. I will be cleaning the logs of spam and they will be posted here. Everything that goes on in here is not completely fucking meaningless.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 09 2011 05:56 GMT
#931
MANDATORY READING UNTIL CURU COMES IN AFTER THAT ITS BASICALLY A RECAP.

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[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> of the vet claimers
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo/drH scummiest
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> in my eyes
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> if one is red
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> I dont know anymoreeeee
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> I think
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> DrH is redder
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> then syllo
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> because
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> he like
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> I think drH has bigger balls
03[23:21] * MrWiggles is now known as MrWiggles|AFK
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> jumped ship
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> and would do
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> after day 2
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> what my mind went to
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> yea he did
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> DrH has huge fucking balls
01[23:21] <ON|FF6> to do what i think hes doing
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> -_- mig was making me kinda fishy with his pushing
[23:21] <BloodyC0bbler> of the damn
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> majority lynch
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> i hate majority
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> so hard
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> Well
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> we went
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> and double lynched scum
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> with no disscussion
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> what?
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> there was no point in 48 hour timecycles when we thought we had the game solved
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> was heavily analyzed
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> Yeah
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> for the first day
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> then we basically sat on our asses
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> for 24 hours
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> i just dont like
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> when hosts
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> push
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> majority
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> it gave scum huge
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> I suggested it
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> and i mean
[23:22] <BloodyC0bbler> huge bonus
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> actually
01[23:22] <ON|FF6> ._.
[23:22] <alanismorisette> so bc i downloaded a bunch of gameplay videos of old republic
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> ?
01[23:23] <ON|FF6> red
01[23:23] <ON|FF6> go away
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> i saw e3 footage of it
[23:23] <alanismorisette> there is so much fucking talking
01[23:23] <ON|FF6> we talking business right now
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> and it looked sick
01[23:23] <ON|FF6> I need a clear head
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> Ok ON
[23:23] <alanismorisette> its like wow with more talking
06[23:23] * alanismorisette LEAVES
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> let me say this
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> if you knew of the medic plan
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> and were red
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> would you shoot into that?
[23:23] <BloodyC0bbler> stress knew it was fake
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> thinking
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> No
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> probably not
[23:24] <BloodyC0bbler> then, would your answer be different
[23:24] <BloodyC0bbler> if you didnt know it was a ruse?
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> Hard to say
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> If i saw mig out two medics
[23:24] <BloodyC0bbler> because
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> I would probably go
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> hmm
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> let this pan out
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> and shoot outside of it
[23:24] <BloodyC0bbler> "trap"
[23:24] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[23:24] <ON|FF6> it smells of trap
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> if i knew of it though
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> id do
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> exactly what happened -_-
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> well
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> yeah
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> probably
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> with one difference
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> what
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> i'd "shoot" myself
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> and block drH
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> hmm
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> as the person who was hit
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> DrH
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> is more likely "town"
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> is possibly mafia
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> than the rb'd one
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> I know
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> hes smart enough to pull something like this
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo has been backseat
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> But
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> all fucking game
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> I know you are too
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> so im not sure
[23:25] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[23:25] <ON|FF6> Im just scared
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> on the off chance
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> yep
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> which is why
[23:26] <alanismorisette> yeah if i was mafia i wouldnt have shot into those medics lol
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> your playing me like a fiddle
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> im trying to be transparent
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> Im so fucking scared
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> of BC being mafia
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> you have no idea
[23:26] <alanismorisette> herp derp he obv outing 2 medics day 2 for no reason herp derp
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> most people are
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> Like
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> Ace
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> Opz
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> is meh
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> purposely
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> cause i somewhat have seen the differences
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> always plays against me
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> in his town play
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> you
[23:26] <BloodyC0bbler> every game
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> I fucking hate trying to read
01[23:26] <ON|FF6> its impossable
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> I figure
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> its like coag
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> But smart
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> if I didn't fuck everyone over
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> and methododical
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> hard
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> yet
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i prob not going to
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> keep in mind
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i did try to stop mig
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> from pushing the last lynch
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> i wanted time to talk
[23:27] <BloodyC0bbler> and he was like "NO NO HES RED"
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> Yeah
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> I think me and mig
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> got really fucking cocky
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> after JeeJee went down
[23:27] <alanismorisette> ^^^^^^^^^
[23:27] <alanismorisette> WE HAVE A WINRA
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> thinking we were hot shit
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> lol
[23:27] <alanismorisette> *winrar
[23:27] <alanismorisette> yeah
01[23:27] <ON|FF6> I love winrar
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> best free not actually free product
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> ever
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> so
[23:28] <alanismorisette> like taa and his vigi claim
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> honestly
[23:28] <alanismorisette> i use unrar
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> just look at taa
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> How are we going to go about this
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> and chaos13
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> look at their posts
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> we have
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> or curu's
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> 3 mislynches correct?
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> im pretty sure
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> before were absolutely fucked
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> i've cleared bartundar
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> hmm
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> to me
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> I think barunder is town
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> just lurky as fuck
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> Ghrur
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> none of his posts
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> is meh
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> scream red
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> ghrur is meh but im leaning
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> town
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> same
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> hes not playing like a red
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> CHaos
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> kenpachi seems red purely because
01[23:28] <ON|FF6> i have no fucking clue
[23:28] <BloodyC0bbler> err
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> town
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> purely because of roba
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> Kenpachi is town cause of roba
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> chaos13
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> and the rb
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> im most sketchy of
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> ive seen chaos play pretty decently before
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> and if DrH is his buddy
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> thats scary as shit
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> DrH/Chaos is a possible scum team
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> if only
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> drH
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> is normally
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> because DrH has distanced himself so far from chaos
[23:29] <BloodyC0bbler> active beyond hell
01[23:29] <ON|FF6> yeah
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> also
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> did mig
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> He said he wanted to tone down his spam count
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> ever tell you
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> but this is redic
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> who jeejee
[23:30] <alanismorisette> btw on
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> claimed he prot'd?
[23:30] <alanismorisette> new lol patch
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> no
[23:30] <alanismorisette> :O
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> Yeah
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> shut up
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> for 5 more mins
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> then we talk
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> im pretty sure
06[23:30] * alanismorisette sulks
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> it was
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> drH
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> Yeah
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> it was
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> but i can't find it in my logs
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> now that you mention it
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> I remember that
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> No it was
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> I cant find it either
01[23:30] <ON|FF6> but i remember it
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> like why would anyone
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> prot drH
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> over mig
[23:30] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
01[23:31] <ON|FF6> If anything
01[23:31] <ON|FF6> the pecking order was
01[23:31] <ON|FF6> Mig > DrH > Me > you
01[23:31] <ON|FF6> that shouldve been the medics pecking order
[23:31] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[23:31] <BloodyC0bbler> also
[23:31] <BloodyC0bbler> let me quote you something
[23:31] <BloodyC0bbler> gimme a sec
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> alright
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> im going to cut out
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> the spam
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> in this
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> and post it
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> or will you?
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> this shit
01[23:32] <ON|FF6> needs to be seen
[23:32] <BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971&currentpage=27#521
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01[23:32] <ON|FF6> Since people wont come in here
[23:32] <BloodyC0bbler> that post
[23:32] <BloodyC0bbler> is why
[23:32] <BloodyC0bbler> i think taa is "off"
01[23:33] <ON|FF6> and
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> taa/chaos13
[23:33] <alanismorisette> lol
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> one or the other red
01[23:33] <ON|FF6> it could theoretically
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> one town
[23:33] <alanismorisette> by cut out the spam
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> in my head
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> explain
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> the fucking shot
[23:33] <alanismorisette> u mean remove my ramblings
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[23:33] <ON|FF6> explain why trotske was offed
01[23:33] <ON|FF6> yes red
01[23:33] <ON|FF6> thats exactly it
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> yo drH
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> you gonna talk
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> or lurk
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01[23:33] <ON|FF6> DoctorHelvetica
01[23:33] <ON|FF6> You here
[23:33] <BloodyC0bbler> apparently lurk
01[23:35] <ON|FF6> le sigh
[23:35] <BloodyC0bbler> why would you join
[23:35] <BloodyC0bbler> and not talk
[23:35] <BloodyC0bbler> twice in the same day
01[23:36] <ON|FF6> Curu
01[23:36] <ON|FF6> is probably town
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[23:37] <BloodyC0bbler> most likely
[23:37] <BloodyC0bbler> say for arguments sake for us both
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> we are both town
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> alright
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> and?
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> curu/bartundar/ghrur
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> and most likely draz
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> are all town
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> that leaves
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> Lucidity
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> Chaos13
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> that leaves chaos, syllo, lucidity drh
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> uhh
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> yeah
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> taa
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> 5 possible
[23:38] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn
01[23:38] <ON|FF6> 6
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> so tahts over half of us
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> great
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> fucking amazing
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> oh, kenpachi
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> is town
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> as well
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> still half
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> of those
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> id say
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> tta or chaos
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> is red
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> and the last one
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> Lucidity or DocH
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> is in sevryn/drh/syllo/lucidity
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> is also possibly read
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> however
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn at this point
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> is most likely
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> town
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> eh
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> yeah
[23:39] <BloodyC0bbler> if chaos13
01[23:39] <ON|FF6> ish
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> or taa
01[23:40] <ON|FF6> still lurking hard as fuc
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> is red
01[23:40] <ON|FF6> k
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> which would leave
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> drh/syllo/lucidity
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> of the 3
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> which would shoot
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> into the med fake claim
01[23:40] <ON|FF6> Syllo and Lucidity
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity didn't know of it
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> then claimed vet
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> after
01[23:40] <ON|FF6> Syllo for the wifom
[23:40] <BloodyC0bbler> so drH and syllo knew of it
01[23:40] <ON|FF6> Lucid cause he didnt know
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> id say syllo most likely shot purely because
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> drH would know
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> if it came down to lynching vets
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> he and I would be put up fast
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> like
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> would basically go
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> me
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> drH
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> to hit a red
01[23:41] <ON|FF6> causing us to lose the game
01[23:41] <ON|FF6> because
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> if you just lynched the chain
01[23:41] <ON|FF6> vets would be lynched last
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[23:41] <BloodyC0bbler> yep
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> its ingenious really
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> but its convoluted
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> as hell
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> But
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> and I know I'd think of it
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> think about it
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> but would anyone else
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[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> if we had reguler 48 hour days
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> it just explains why
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> and dissucessed this to death
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> mafia hasn't gg'd out
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> maybe we just helped it along
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> yeha
[23:42] <ghrur> BC!
[23:42] <ghrur> MILKIS WON 5-0
[23:42] <ghrur> WTF
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> GHRUR
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> ghrur
[23:42] <ghrur> KOREAN FACTOR?
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> NO SPAM
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> GTF
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> i know
01[23:42] <ON|FF6> O
[23:42] <BloodyC0bbler> I watched
[23:42] <ghrur> sorry
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> Im enforcing another 10-15 mins
[23:43] <ghrur> what's being discussed?
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> of no spam
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> Convuleted plans
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> we helped along
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> with the majorit
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> y
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> game
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> we are talking about
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> the
[23:43] <alanismorisette> koreans own white dudes
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> Ghrur
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> possibility of a vet purposely hitting
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> inside the blues
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> if hes red
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> to build confirmation / doubt
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> I talked to you about it earlier
[23:43] <BloodyC0bbler> i think
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> would you believe it
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> if i said
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> Syllo or DrH was scum
[23:43] <ghrur> yes
01[23:43] <ON|FF6> alright
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> why
[23:44] <ghrur> Well, I favor syllo over DrH
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> as do I
[23:44] <ghrur> because he first mentioned the possibility of not hitting
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> but potentially
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> they are both scum
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> btw
[23:44] <ghrur> Yeah, it's very possible
[23:44] <BloodyC0bbler> drH also pushed varp
[23:44] <BloodyC0bbler> to die
[23:44] <BloodyC0bbler> faster
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> So what
01[23:44] <ON|FF6> Bussing
[23:44] <BloodyC0bbler> than syllo
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> it is
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> DocH doesnt care
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> but how often
[23:45] <ghrur> Furthermore, syllo has never been hit so to speak
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> do you bus a roleblocker
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> when you have 2
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> put it that way
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> who were shot
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> and it doesnt seem as bad
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> and 1 rb'd
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> Syllo never hit
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> ON, it doesn't seem as bad
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> but if you have 2 rb's
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> flys under the radar
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> and have anyone intelligent
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> i have never seen him
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> in your team
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> why the hell
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> do anything meaningful
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> to dissucssion
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> yeah
[23:45] <BloodyC0bbler> would you let him die"?
01[23:45] <ON|FF6> i get taht
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> which is why
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> DocH
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> is lesser down
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> than syllo
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> once again
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> throwing ideas out
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> taa
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> chaos13
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> all tried to move lynch
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> chaos13 and jeejee
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> to draz
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> taa and me
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> to jeejee
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> sp
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> who tried to move it to lucidity at first/
[23:46] <BloodyC0bbler> ?
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> hmm
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> i wonder
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> if
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> Syllo/Chaos
01[23:46] <ON|FF6> is scumteam
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> I wonder if lynching syllo
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> I know mig
[23:47] <ghrur> Another thing that makes me prefer syllo
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> would be the correct move
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> today
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> thought syllo
[23:47] <ghrur> DrH never jumped on te Munk-E wagon
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> was more town than I was for awhile
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> hmm
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> Syllo jumped on the JeeJee wagon too right?
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> but that was inevitable
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> so scum probably knew just to let it go
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[23:47] <ON|FF6> and jumped on
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> the only people
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> who argued the jeejee lynch
[23:47] <BloodyC0bbler> were mig
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> me
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> and I think
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> you and BC
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> 1 other person
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> in the circle
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> oh
[23:48] <ghrur> Like, the mafia would love the Munk-E wagon, it was our first mislynch and it would create havoc in the town
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> the skype circle
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> you mean
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> no i mean in general
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> did syllo meaningfully contribute in the skype circle at all?
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> mig did not think
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> jeejee was red
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> at first
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> ah
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> he lurked
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> a fuck ton
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> oh
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> after day 1
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> more reasons
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> we stopped using it
01[23:48] <ON|FF6> yeah
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> because mig stopped talking ot curu
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> and syllo lurked
[23:48] <BloodyC0bbler> completely
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> so it made sense to just talk to mig privately
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> Syllo was almost as if he was in there
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> to gain information
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> I honestly think ghrur is town
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> not to contribute
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> as do I
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> because he will talk to me now
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> Curu is just being
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> curu
[23:49] <ghrur> Hahaha
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> he outright refused
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> day 1
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> and being an idiot
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> that guy
[23:49] <ghrur> that's because I think you're town
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> so
01[23:49] <ON|FF6> has such a thick skull some days
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> taa/chaos13
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> linked
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> so possible red
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> of the 2
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> then syllo or drh?
[23:49] <ghrur> I don't think so
[23:49] <BloodyC0bbler> as most likely other 1?
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> Chaos > Taa Syllo > drH
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> imo
[23:50] <ghrur> I personally don't think chaos is that scummy
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> hmm
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> i think they link opposite sides
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> of spectrum
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> would out best action be to kill syllo
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> taa has flown
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> under the radar completely
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> since the whole vig thing
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> yeah
[23:50] <ghrur> TAA pushed GG even before you though
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> he doesnt commit to anything
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> Yeah
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> he didnt super push
[23:50] <BloodyC0bbler> it though
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> it was meh
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> and took way more credit
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> then deserved
01[23:50] <ON|FF6> as if he was trying to gain town cred
[23:51] <ghrur> very true
[23:51] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> Taa/Syllo
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> is my current pick
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> im almost sure on syllo now
[23:51] <BloodyC0bbler> it seems
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> it just lines up
[23:51] <BloodyC0bbler> soundish for what we have
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> Alright
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> we need to get this in thread
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> and start disscussing syllo
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> and see his reaction
01[23:51] <ON|FF6> Ghrur
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> you gotta help this too
[23:52] <ghrur> yes?
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> not just lurk
[23:52] <ghrur> Okay
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> and not contribute
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> Migs gone now
[23:52] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[23:52] <ghrur> Lol
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> we gotta pull weight
[23:52] <ghrur> Devastating
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> Me
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> h
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> he was making
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> good cases
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> and leading
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> gotta step up for the leader
[23:52] <ghrur> Yeah
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> lol
[23:52] <BloodyC0bbler> well, munk-e case we all fucked up
[23:52] <ghrur> But you guys do ealize
[23:52] <BloodyC0bbler> on
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> Yeah
[23:52] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> that was retarded
[23:52] <ghrur> if DrH/Syllo are team
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> as long as we lynch one
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> were fine
[23:52] <ghrur> This could fall apart
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> for a long time
[23:52] <BloodyC0bbler> if we lynch 1
[23:52] <BloodyC0bbler> we have alot more misslynches
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> As long as we get down to one
[23:52] <ghrur> Yeah
01[23:52] <ON|FF6> we can hit Lylo
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> Best case scenario in lylo
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> is
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> if we hit a roleblocker
[23:53] <alanismorisette> can i talk yet?
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> in our lynch
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> we have
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> extra
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> time
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> because I can't
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[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> be killed in one night
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> shit
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> though
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> Curu
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> you missed
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> a fuckton
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> seriously
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> like
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> a metric fuckton
[23:53] <Curu> lol
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> also
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> ON
[23:53] <Curu> well post the log please
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> ill get to
01[23:53] <ON|FF6> it
[23:53] <ghrur> I understand that, but I'm saying if DrH is here to relay the info to Syllo and he's mafia, Syllo might not even react that much
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> no one has claimed
[23:53] <Curu> i got off irc when it was ghrur talking to BC about cooking
[23:53] <BloodyC0bbler> rb
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> for 2 night cycles
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[23:54] <Curu> drh claimed it didnt he
01[23:54] <ON|FF6> did anyone claimed RB
[23:54] <Curu> the cycle before mig died
01[23:54] <ON|FF6> DoctorHelvetica
01[23:54] <ON|FF6> did you get Rbed again?
01[23:54] <ON|FF6> when mig died
01[23:54] <ON|FF6> who got RBed
01[23:54] <ON|FF6> ffs
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> i got rb'd the night before
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> munk-e
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> died
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> then
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> reddff
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> was shot
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> no rb claim
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> we lynched ym
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> mig shot
[23:54] <BloodyC0bbler> no claim still
[23:54] <Curu> right
[23:55] <BloodyC0bbler> it seems like
[23:55] <BloodyC0bbler> mafia is holding onto it
[23:55] <BloodyC0bbler> to shoot someone
[23:55] <BloodyC0bbler> last minute with it
[23:55] <BloodyC0bbler> ie one of the real vets
[23:55] <Curu> they probably dont want to confirm people being blocked
[23:55] <ghrur> It could be mafia is rb+shooting together
[23:55] <ghrur> because they know we only have vets
[23:55] <Curu> becaue if they know everyone is vet
[23:55] <Curu> no point blockign
01[23:55] <ON|FF6> thats the likely scenario
01[23:55] <ON|FF6> just block and stack a shot
01[23:55] <ON|FF6> on everyone
[23:55] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[23:55] <ON|FF6> to make sure
[23:55] <ghrur> Yeah
[23:55] <Curu> so wait whats the topic
[23:55] <Curu> of discussion
01[23:55] <ON|FF6> Ok
01[23:55] <ON|FF6> heres the lowdown
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> in very little detail
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> We think
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> Taa/Chaos13
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> is one member
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> and Syllo/DrH
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> is the other
[23:56] <BloodyC0bbler> is the other
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> Syllo is heavily leading
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> on that side
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> Lucidity
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> is likely town
[23:56] <Curu> syllo due to what?
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> open your eyes
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> he does
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> NOTHING
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> at all
[23:56] <alanismorisette> k i gotta software update
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> Flys under the radar
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01[23:56] <ON|FF6> 24/7
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> busses teammates
[23:56] <BloodyC0bbler> but is somehow
01[23:56] <ON|FF6> takes credit
[23:56] <ghrur> He tags onto Mig as his partner
[23:56] <BloodyC0bbler> confirmed
[23:56] <BloodyC0bbler> as town
[23:56] <Curu> thing is
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> He was never shot
[23:57] <Curu> mig claimed vet to syllo day 1
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> So what
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> its called
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> WIFOM
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> why would you blow your cover like that
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> mig told me
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> he claimed to syllo
[23:57] <Curu> i dunno, i mentioned it to mig
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> before N1 ended
[23:57] <Curu> that syllo wasnt doing shit
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> incase he died
[23:57] <ghrur> ON, what made you think lucid is town?
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> Because it doesnt fit
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> if hes mafia
[23:57] <Curu> at the time he told me he has a storng town read on syllo
[23:57] <Curu> strong
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> Mafia is two things
[23:57] <ghrur> Okay
[23:57] <Curu> based on their skype chats
[23:57] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> its a logical analyzation of behaviour
01[23:57] <ON|FF6> and a puzzle
[23:57] <BloodyC0bbler> is far too willing to die
[23:58] <BloodyC0bbler> to prove another vet
[23:58] <BloodyC0bbler> lives
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> thats the behaviour portion
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> the puzzle portion is
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> it just doesnt fit
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> the circle
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> does not go in
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> the triangle
[23:58] <ghrur> I see
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> no matter how hard the monkey pushes
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> its going to be wrong
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> even if the circle dies
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> its just proven
01[23:58] <ON|FF6> to be wronger
01[23:59] <ON|FF6> at least
01[23:59] <ON|FF6> thats my bad analogy
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> of the circle
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> if we lynch
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> for an informant
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> based on chain of lynches of claims or the like
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> ignoring behaviour
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity > me > drH > syllo
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> in terms of vets
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> if you follow tha tline
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> which we were thinking at one point
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> if we do that
[23:59] <BloodyC0bbler> and syllo is red
Session Time: Tue Aug 09 00:00:00 2011
[00:00] <BloodyC0bbler> town loses
[00:00] <BloodyC0bbler> if I was red, id never have rb'd myself
[00:00] <BloodyC0bbler> id have taken the shot
[00:00] <BloodyC0bbler> to "confirm" myself
[00:00] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity isn't going to run into a situation that will get himself killed.....i think?
[00:00] <ghrur> "taken"
[00:00] <BloodyC0bbler> and of drH and syllo
[00:01] <BloodyC0bbler> drH has done far more
[00:01] <BloodyC0bbler> townlike behaviour
[00:03] <ghrur> BC, what was your confirmed town list?
[00:03] <BloodyC0bbler> and everyones gone -_-
01[00:03] <ON|FF6> Curu
01[00:03] <ON|FF6> is bitching at me
01[00:03] <ON|FF6> in PMs
01[00:03] <ON|FF6> sorry
[00:03] <ghrur> ???
01[00:03] <ON|FF6> He still thinks BC is scum
01[00:04] <ON|FF6> btw
[00:04] <ghrur> Does he disagree? I had a conversation with Curu about Syllo being scum before BC even contacted me about it
[00:04] <BloodyC0bbler> ghrur, curu, kenpachi, ON, drazerk, bartundar
[00:04] <BloodyC0bbler> and myself
[00:04] <BloodyC0bbler> everyone always thinks im scum -_-
[00:05] <ghrur> Ty
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> i think one of taa/chaos13
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> is scum
[00:06] <ghrur> You know what's the weirdest thing?
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> which would clear the other
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> ?
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> and I think of the remaining 4 players
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> drH / syllo makes most sense
[00:06] <ghrur> Syllo mentioned right before the Munk-E lynch that 5 vets would be impossibly imbalanced
[00:06] <ghrur> Munk-E got lynched
[00:06] <ghrur> if he just accepts the 4 vets
[00:06] <ghrur> then clearly it's 5 vets
[00:06] <ghrur> yet he never talks about it
[00:06] <BloodyC0bbler> hmm
[00:07] <ghrur> Not much to add. 5 vets would be absurd even with 2 RBs ##vote Munk-E
[00:07] <ghrur> Then never mentions the vet problem again
[00:07] <BloodyC0bbler> especially
[00:07] <BloodyC0bbler> with
[00:07] <BloodyC0bbler> lucidity claiming
[00:07] <BloodyC0bbler> right after
[00:07] <ghrur> Exactly
[00:07] <ghrur> you would think if he were a vet, he'd be the one going WTF most
[00:07] <ghrur> Especially since he made that claim
[00:07] <BloodyC0bbler> i told mig if we had a fake claimer in the vets
[00:08] <BloodyC0bbler> its one of syllo/mig/drh/me
[00:08] <BloodyC0bbler> no idea if he talked to anyone about it though
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[00:11] <ghrur> Why haven't mafia claimed RB?
[00:12] <BloodyC0bbler> let people forget about it
[00:12] <BloodyC0bbler> use it to cap a vet
[00:12] <ghrur> It would make them so much more "town" if they did. It would also cause distrust for BC/Kenpachi.
[00:13] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[00:13] <ghrur> Or... it could be because they've already claimed to have taken a hit
[00:13] <BloodyC0bbler> only reason drH could be red in my head
[00:13] <BloodyC0bbler> is that entire
[00:13] <BloodyC0bbler> shooting into the med shit
[00:13] <BloodyC0bbler> as red if i fired into it, id make sure I as the red member would "take" the hit
[00:13] <BloodyC0bbler> i assume he would do the same
[00:14] <ghrur> I agree
[00:14] <BloodyC0bbler> although keeping him + mig alive together
[00:14] <BloodyC0bbler> would let him live longer
[00:14] <BloodyC0bbler> since they both took hits
[00:14] <BloodyC0bbler> and Mig was solidly town in everyones eyes
[00:14] <BloodyC0bbler> and trusted drH
[00:16] <BloodyC0bbler> seriously ON and curu -_-
[00:16] <BloodyC0bbler> talk in here
[00:16] <ghrur> BC, would you prefer us to lynch one of TAA/chaos tomorrow or DrH/Syllo?
[00:16] <BloodyC0bbler> especially you curu
[00:16] <ghrur> Which pair do you find scummier?
01[00:17] <ON|FF6> My pick
01[00:17] <ON|FF6> is Taa/Syllo
01[00:17] <ON|FF6> atm
01[00:17] <ON|FF6> Syllo more sure
[00:17] <BloodyC0bbler> hmm, honestly. It doesn't matter at this point. Of the groups syllo/drH is deadlier but taa/chaos has a higher chance of easily picking a red
[00:17] <ghrur> Well, if you were to push, which one?
[00:17] <BloodyC0bbler> call it also a matter of life preservation
[00:18] <BloodyC0bbler> but if we lynch syllo and he dies and flips town
[00:18] <BloodyC0bbler> im next on the block
[00:19] <Curu> from thread presence chaos looks the worst to me
01[00:19] <ON|FF6> agreed
01[00:19] <ON|FF6> but
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> Syllo/Chaos
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> of taa and syllo, I can make a better analysis
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> both have shit thread presence
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> of taa
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> than syllo
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> taa we can also push him for LaL
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> along with all the scummy shit
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> taa is also the only person that in any way
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> remotely explains the shot on troske
[00:20] <Curu> im not down for a policy lynch on like
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> aside from
[00:20] <Curu> what is it
[00:20] <Curu> day 5 or something?
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> sevryn
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> Yeah
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> Remember
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> Trotske and Sevryn
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> are also twins
01[00:20] <ON|FF6> lol
[00:20] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> and if my bro was playing mafia
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> and i was scum
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> id fucking shoot him
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> no questions
[00:21] <Kenpachi_> so evil
[00:21] <BloodyC0bbler> so would I
[00:21] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> its not that im scared of him
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> but
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> I dont want to talk to him about it
01[00:21] <ON|FF6> until hes dead
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> and i dont want an irl slip
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> and im a fucking bad lier
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> IRL
[00:22] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[00:22] <Kenpachi_> I TALKED TO MY BRO GUYS
[00:22] <Kenpachi_> HE SLIPPED
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> lololol
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> In all honesty
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> of someone said that
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> and it was proven they were related
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> id believe it
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> >_<
[00:22] <Kenpachi_> lol
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> assuming
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> there was history in thread too
01[00:22] <ON|FF6> but its pretty damning
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> when your family member comes in thread
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> and says
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> oh
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> i brought up mafia with XXX over dinner
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> he totally slipped
[00:23] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[00:23] <BloodyC0bbler> well you know of the two
[00:23] <BloodyC0bbler> you juet net a red
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> and you were already in hot shit
[00:23] <BloodyC0bbler> just*
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> yeah
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> id be amazed
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> if coag outed jackal like that
01[00:23] <ON|FF6> tbh
[00:24] <Kenpachi_> do they know each other?
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> Jackal
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> is coags dad
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> lol
[00:24] <alanismorisette> lo
[00:24] <Kenpachi_> wtf
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> coag is jackals kid
[00:24] <Kenpachi_> lOL
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[00:24] <Kenpachi_> im
[00:24] <alanismorisette> did u not know that?
[00:24] <Kenpachi_> an idiot
[00:24] <Kenpachi_> i didnt know
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> My brother
[00:24] <Curu> what
[00:24] <ghrur> Huh
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> wants to play
[00:24] <alanismorisette> jackal is like 90
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> so question becomes
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> ON
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> his scumslip profile
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> said 52
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> do we
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> push
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> i think
[00:24] <ghrur> I did not know that
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> lol
[00:24] <alanismorisette> jackal fought in the civil war
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> syllo
[00:24] <BloodyC0bbler> or taa?
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> Syllo
01[00:24] <ON|FF6> most definitly
[00:24] <Curu> so red
[00:24] <Curu> since you know him
[00:25] <Curu> why doesnt coag actually post in the games hes in
[00:25] <Kenpachi_> what a baller jackal is
[00:25] <alanismorisette> coag is ok
[00:25] <alanismorisette> he can be good
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> Coag is good
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> when he trys
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> coag got roasted
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> the last time
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> and doesnt let his ego get in the way
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> he played and posted alot
[00:25] <alanismorisette> he was really active in this pm game me and jackal played with him
[00:25] <alanismorisette> and we were scum
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> He got roasted as gf
[00:25] <alanismorisette> and he got elected mayor day 1
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> by fw and those guys
[00:25] <alanismorisette> and i
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> so he just said fuck it
01[00:25] <ON|FF6> lol
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> honestly
[00:25] <alanismorisette> threw my support behind him
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> he should never have been made
[00:25] <alanismorisette> and claimed vet
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> gf
[00:25] <BloodyC0bbler> that game
[00:26] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
[00:26] <alanismorisette> and he made be his bodyguard
[00:26] <ghrur> Honestly, Chaos/Syllo team makes sense
[00:26] <Curu> in the 3 games ive played with him he actually has like 10 posts combined maybe
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> Coag shouldnt be GF
[00:26] <alanismorisette> and treated me like a confirmed townie
[00:26] <BloodyC0bbler> it does ghrur
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> actually
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> its ok
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> because I would check coag
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> in a heartbeat
[00:26] <BloodyC0bbler> so does taa/syllo to a degree
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> cause hes hard to analyse
[00:26] <alanismorisette> yeah coag is hard to read
[00:26] <ghrur> I don't think so
[00:26] <Curu> so someone explain to me how syllo
[00:26] <ghrur> Syllo is smart to have set this shit up
[00:26] <Curu> became the confirmed mafia
[00:26] <Curu> in here
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> hes not confirmed
[00:26] <Kenpachi_> wait
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> hes just
[00:26] <Kenpachi_> i never knew that
[00:26] <ghrur> He wouldn't let TAA make such a dumbass move would he?
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> more likely
[00:26] <Kenpachi_> jackal = coags dad
[00:26] <Kenpachi_> my mind is blown
01[00:26] <ON|FF6> yes
01[00:27] <ON|FF6> back to topic
01[00:27] <ON|FF6> Curu
01[00:27] <ON|FF6> wants ot know
01[00:27] <ON|FF6> why syllo is mafia
[00:27] <alanismorisette> lol curu
[00:27] <ghrur> Well, first one to bring up the idea of "missing a hit" when most would've assumed stacking hits instead
[00:27] <alanismorisette> that post is funny
[00:27] <ghrur> And he basically tags onto Mig
[00:27] <alanismorisette> dead redff is the MOST ACTIVE PERSON
[00:27] <ghrur> and claims credit
[00:27] <ghrur> He also never mentioned the 5 vet stuff again
[00:28] <ghrur> despite it being his basis for attacking Munk-E
[00:28] <alanismorisette> so what about that ff6 ay
[00:28] <ghrur> He pushed both Munk-E and YM push with little analysis
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> zozo
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> is a fucking bith
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> bitch
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> that is all
[00:28] <Curu> thats somewhat understandable
[00:28] <Curu> though
[00:28] <Curu> i was sure ym was scum
[00:28] <ghrur> Yeah
[00:28] <Curu> how the hell does a townie hav ea scumslip
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> we all kinda were
[00:28] <Curu> how is that evne possible
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> it wasnt a slip tojugh
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> i argued that
01[00:28] <ON|FF6> the entire time
[00:28] <BloodyC0bbler> curu
[00:28] <alanismorisette> Curu: it wastna scum slip
01[00:29] <ON|FF6> its why i was still unsure
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> did you read fw's last game he hosted?
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[00:29] <Curu> he came in and basically posted 100% exactly how mafia would post regarding the godfather
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> ym was wrong
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> about every single
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> person in fw's game
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> and he was town
[00:29] <Kenpachi_> lol
01[00:29] <ON|FF6> Ym
01[00:29] <ON|FF6> is not very good
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> he tunnels
01[00:29] <ON|FF6> thats the fact
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> and defends
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> based on gut reads
[00:29] <BloodyC0bbler> he doesnt step back
[00:30] <BloodyC0bbler> and think shit through
[00:30] <alanismorisette> <3 yn
[00:30] <alanismorisette> *ym
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[00:31] <Curu_> k so
[00:31] <Curu_> my interent is shit
[00:31] <Curu_> i missed everything after
[00:31] <Curu_> [01:29] <BloodyC0bbler> about every single [01:29] <BloodyC0bbler> person in fw's game
[00:31] <Kenpachi_> all you missed was
[00:32] <Kenpachi_> that ym is bad
[00:32] <Curu_> k
[00:32] <Curu_> im still waiting for
[00:32] <Curu_> the syllo scum
[00:32] <Curu_> thing
[00:33] <ghrur> T_T I thought I laid it out well
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> [00:27] <ghrur> and claims credit
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> [00:27] <ghrur> He also never mentioned the 5 vet stuff again
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> [00:28] <ghrur> despite it being his basis for attacking Munk-E
[00:33] <Curu_> oh
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> Thats part
[00:33] <Curu_> right
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> along with
[00:33] <Curu_> that part
[00:33] <Curu_> ok
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> the lurking
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> and the other shit
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> he also pushes
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> a mislynch
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> and not really anything else
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> for the record
[00:33] <BloodyC0bbler> curu
01[00:33] <ON|FF6> its not like we didnt either
[00:33] <BloodyC0bbler> has syllo talked to you at all?
[00:33] <ghrur> Furthermore, BC and I talked about something, about how if we started arguing about it it would primarily be BC/DrH arguing and Syllo would sit in the background
[00:33] <BloodyC0bbler> yea
[00:33] <BloodyC0bbler> after lucidity is lynched if you lynch vet cflaims
[00:33] <BloodyC0bbler> if he flips town
[00:34] <BloodyC0bbler> drH and I would be up next
[00:34] <BloodyC0bbler> arguing
[00:34] <BloodyC0bbler> on who should go first
[00:34] <Curu_> so you guys want syllo as todays lynch?
[00:34] <ghrur> Meanwhile Syllo's the only one who hasn't claimed to be hit/RBed
[00:34] <alanismorisette> http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/40_year_old_spartan.jpg
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> curu
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> it would clear alot of shit
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> up
02[00:35] * Curu (webchat@bas4-toronto02-1167988939.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Ping timeout)
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> fuck
[00:35] <Curu_> im here
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> oh
[00:35] <Curu_> thats my dced on
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> mmk
[00:35] <Curu_> one
[00:35] <Kenpachi_> but then guys
[00:35] <Kenpachi_> if we lynch syllo
[00:35] <Kenpachi_> and he flips vet
[00:35] <Kenpachi_> what are we going to do
[00:35] <ghrur> lynch drh/bc
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> come back
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> and have
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> DrH
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> and BC
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> argue out
01[00:35] <ON|FF6> why the other is town or scum
[00:35] <Kenpachi_> oh goody
01[00:36] <ON|FF6> I want each otehr
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> lol
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> if syllo
01[00:36] <ON|FF6> at their fucking throats
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> flips
01[00:36] <ON|FF6> if they are sum
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> vet
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> lynch me
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> 4 hands at bc's through
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> i've essentially started most of the "lets hit syllo" wagon
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> throut*
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> thraot
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> fuck
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> my spelling
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> so if hes vet
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> throat
[00:36] <BloodyC0bbler> im fucked
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> if we only had a vig or dt
[00:36] <Curu_> im cool with that
[00:36] <Kenpachi_> this game would be ez
[00:37] <BloodyC0bbler> which means guys, if this goes south
[00:37] <BloodyC0bbler> I apologize
01[00:37] <ON|FF6> I dont think
01[00:37] <ON|FF6> this will go south
01[00:37] <ON|FF6> this is the feeling i get
[00:38] <ghrur> Same
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> when i think i find scum
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> its like that tightness
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> you know your not sure
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> but yet
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> you know deep down
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> its true
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> eh, when jeejee claimed med
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> i wasnt sure
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> at all
[00:38] <ghrur> Oh, huh, well, I never have that feeling because I might be bad lol
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> -_-
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> the biggest thing about scum
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> is that
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> until jeejee's claim
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> I was like
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> If your 100% sure
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> so sure he was red
01[00:38] <ON|FF6> you better have damn good reasonig
[00:38] <BloodyC0bbler> the moment he said im med
[00:39] <BloodyC0bbler> I was like
[00:39] <BloodyC0bbler> "do we have 4 vets?"
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[00:39] <Curu> holy
[00:39] <Curu> fuck
[00:39] <ghrur> lol
[00:39] <BloodyC0bbler> and im going to the bathroom
[00:39] <BloodyC0bbler> brb
[00:40] <alanismorisette> lol curu l2internet
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> i swear to fucking god
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> if i get one more
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> random encounter
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> in this fucking town
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> i will flip
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> im 3 steps from the entrance
01[00:41] <ON|FF6> and have gotten 2 in a row
[00:41] <alanismorisette> :D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[00:41] <alanismorisette> good ol jrpgs
02[00:42] * Curu_ (webchat@bas4-toronto02-1167988939.dsl.bell.ca) Quit (Ping timeout)
03[00:43] * Curu_ (webchat@bas4-toronto02-1167988939.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #loonybin
[00:43] <Curu_> cool beans
01[00:44] <ON|FF6> so
01[00:44] <ON|FF6> Have we decided
01[00:44] <ON|FF6> on Syllo?
01[00:45] <ON|FF6> also
01[00:45] <ON|FF6> BC
01[00:45] <ON|FF6> can you post logs
[00:45] <ghrur> Convinced yet curu? :p
01[00:45] <ON|FF6> because i always fucking post them
01[00:45] <ON|FF6> and i want to go to sleep
[00:45] <ghrur> You mean play FF6
01[00:45] <ON|FF6> fuck you
01[00:45] <ON|FF6>
03[00:45] * Curu__ (webchat@bas4-toronto02-1167988939.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #loonybin
[00:46] <Curu__> omg
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> im at the opera scene
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> >_<
[00:46] <Curu__> why bring up the syllo case just now though
[00:46] <Curu__> a
[00:46] <Curu__> im going to be randomly typing a
[00:46] <Curu__> to make sure i havent dced
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> alright
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> well
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> mostly
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> because we tunnel visioned
01[00:46] <ON|FF6> onto Munk-E/YM
[00:47] <alanismorisette> a
[00:47] <alanismorisette> a
01[00:47] <ON|FF6> in hindisight
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 09 2011 07:16 GMT
#932
Today I realized I swear an atrocious amount late at night...
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 09 2011 22:25 GMT
#990
Im switching over as id prefer syllo lynched, chaos still scummy tho.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 10 2011 03:26 GMT
#997
On August 10 2011 12:08 Curu wrote:
syllo doesn't make sense as a lynch to me because the case is just stupid. It's built entirely on lurker behavior and WIFOM. Do you guys honestly think syllo would waste 2 KP trying to confirm himself to Mig, having Mig tell people he thought syllo was 99% Town, then killing him? If his strategy was to buy cred then skate to lylo he most certainly would have left Mig alive till then as well.

I'm more convinced on chaos now. His reasoning for voting syllo is even more nonsensical, and it's clear he's just doing it in an attempt to save himself.


Well if you guys can convince someone to vote him Im once again fine with his lynch. And I personally see his case as stronger than syllos now.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 10 2011 04:54 GMT
#999
Someone please Hammer Chaos13 before the deadline.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#1021
If I die you guys better not fuck this up.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 10 2011 20:07 GMT
#1037
Dont Turbo BC or Syllo.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 11 2011 05:13 GMT
#1053
Less Lurky more talky.

Id like to lynch a vet today:

My choices are:

1. DrH
2. BC
3. Syllo

Each has his or her own merits.

DrH

Strong pro-town game early but hasnt spoken since D3ish.

BC:

Weird lurking passive style Early game but has been getting quite good up until his hard push on syllo.

Syllo:

Didnt really do much early game, appearently talked to Mig alot. Defense was kind of lackluster but his IRC presence has seemed quite similer to BC, in the fact that it was more town oriented in most ways.

Those are just my most general of all observations on all players.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 12 2011 19:36 GMT
#1125
I TOLD YOU GUYS BC WAS TOWN!!!
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