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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
kita I would want to see him post more first but I wouldn't be against lynching him if I can't get a BC wagon to form. BC is so against having a DT check someone that we choose (we can even just not use his checks until after he dies, then use them) at no cost except providing extra information that I have to think he has an ulterior motive. | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
The real question you should be asking yourself is "Is the possibility of a townie getting the med kit worth the risk of mafia getting it?" I say yes. Night 1 is not the time to be shooting at possible mafia targets if you are town. There is a very slim chance jackal correctly predicts the SK, if SK happens to shoot mafia. Pretend it like this if you don't like this situation. Deconduo comes down and gives us the option of giving one random player a med kit. We are all told who it is given to. And we can take it back at any time if we want to. Would you agree? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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sandroba
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On July 26 2011 07:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: -_- they benefit him by A) giving info that regardless if you think it does or not, it helps "confirm" his legitimacy. It doesnt B) It lures town into false control of a role C) It sets up a slope of trusting someone we shouldn't trust D) It allows mafia to control general thoughts on rolechecks / lets them manipulate town as a whole There are more reasons but you should get the idea. An unconfirmed aligned dt's checks could be legit or not when he gives us the answers but if 1-2 of those checks turn up legit people will assume that dt is town when it does not mean that at all. There is far to much emphasis put on dt's and giving the mafia a potential tool to control town is terrible. As such, why would I want him to check anyone? Hmm...this is interesting. So what you're saying is that we would basically have to let him live if we want him to check people, but have to lynch him if we wanted to confirm his checks. That's something of a dilemma... Your entire theory is based on him actually being mafia though. On the one hand, we let him live while "checking" people's alignment. On the other, we let him live without being put in the spotlight with his checks. Or in a third scenario, we lynch him to confirm/refute his checks. If he flips town, we have truthful checks. If mafia, we just lynched scum and we can ignore all his 'checks'. The question is, which of these scenarios benefits us the most? | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 26 2011 07:43 chaos13 wrote: Hmm...this is interesting. So what you're saying is that we would basically have to let him live if we want him to check people, but have to lynch him if we wanted to confirm his checks. That's something of a dilemma... Your entire theory is based on him actually being mafia though. On the one hand, we let him live while "checking" people's alignment. On the other, we let him live without being put in the spotlight with his checks. Or in a third scenario, we lynch him to confirm/refute his checks. If he flips town, we have truthful checks. If mafia, we just lynched scum and we can ignore all his 'checks'. The question is, which of these scenarios benefits us the most? And now someone isnt talking about lynching based off his checks, I think some lightbulbs might just be going on. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
No red will ever submit to quoting him willingly. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On July 26 2011 07:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: And now someone isnt talking about lynching based off his checks, I think some lightbulbs might just be going on. I've been saying that for a while -_- | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
There are three people who have mentioned I've been trying to make others look suspicious by questioning them (You disappoint me Wiggles). Hate to break to you guys, but I can't question someone for being suspicious if they're not suspicious in the first place. I asked Sandroba why he was giving his kp away so readily. That's a valid question. The only reason I'm not pushing it further and willing to think he is just a misguided townie is because he was the first person to identify Jackal's town win condition. From what the town is saying, you would think I'm a propaganda spewing machine. Lets take a look at our dead scum. On July 25 2011 23:20 Tackster wrote: I suggest YM, heist and kita as possible targets On July 25 2011 23:24 Tackster wrote: Oh and to explain my target choices: YM - That vig shot was just awful and to cover yourself with 'mafia would never do this' is pure drivel Heist - You seemed too into the item game from the start and seemed to be breadcrumbing you had an item or were harry (not scummy but close to lying IMO) kita - this has been explained at length. Lurk much? On July 26 2011 00:28 Tackster wrote: Suspects: Kitaman Jackal heist sandroba YM (dead) Cool, I'm apparently his top suspect. (omg bus! -_-) Last game scum tried to bandwagon me day one because of my "uselessness" and then ended up shooting me day two when I attacked half their team. I fail to see how my contribution is any different from half the other players. I'm not lurking, I'm posting when I'm available. I'm not putting any effort into trying to blend in. That's what scum do. People are just repeating my name a bunch of times without providing valid reasoning. If push comes to shove, I'll take an alignment check, but I would much rather see it used on someone else as a confirmed scum is much more useful than a confirmed town. I'll post in a little bit on who I would prefer it to be. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On July 26 2011 08:04 sandroba wrote: Yo kita, since you are here, are you willing to take THE TEST? By test, I assume you refer to the alignment check? I'll take it only if I'm forced to. Obviously, I'm going to push for someone else so it wouldn't be wasted, but I'll assume that's what you would expect everyone to say. | ||
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sandroba
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
 Killer!!! | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On July 26 2011 08:11 sandroba wrote: Well, I really think you are scum and a lot of people share my opinion. In your position, the best thing you can do if you are really town is to do the check, so we can move to someone else and hope ss gets shot at night or something, so you are confirmed. Is there anything I could say otherwise that could change your mind? I honestly don't see how you see me as scummy. The only logical argument you can make is that I haven't caught scum yet, but no one has. I'm not trying to push a scum agenda. You haven't even bothered to make an argument because there isn't one. If I can't convince town to use it on others, I'll take the test if when I pass, town agrees to let me select the lynch  | ||
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heist
United States720 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
The OP says no posts restrictions are allowed in roles. Either 1) An exception to the rules was made for your role 2) You've created your own post restriction. If its the first, claim that you do indeed have a post restriction and if that is false, your role creator can counter claim that you are lying. If its the second, you are distracting town. Who cares what you are saying when you're posts are full of progamer names! lolz | ||
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