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Okay, so I'm back, but later than expected.
On July 26 2011 01:38 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 01:37 Nisani201 wrote:
The Town can sort this out, if it's really troubling you then perhaps you should roleclaim. -_- WHEN WILL YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND Role claims are not good.
I really wish more people would listen. Chaos13 is completely correct here.
On July 26 2011 04:19 Varpulis wrote:
Alright I'm caught up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an accurate summary of the proceedings today is:
Jackal claims HP, ON claims voldy, ON dies, people say that Jackal is lying. YM kills ON, gets killed by tackster, supersoft kills tackster. Kitaman is lurking, Kurumi is trolling/soliciting votes.
I'm uneasy about lynching Jackal based purely on role speculation. I'd rather keep an eye on him and keep him the hell away from the hallows.
I'd be fine with lynching kitaman27 at the moment. Nobody vote for Kurumi, k?
Kurumi is fairly confusing. I don't understand why he wants to be voted and I don't think I'm going to vote him.
I don't think Jackal is scum and I don't think we should lynch him given the reasoning I've seen thus far.
On July 26 2011 05:43 Curu wrote:
Let's look at all the people flying under the radar too under disguise of this shitstorm and not contributing any opinions.
Nisani201
Drazerk
Mr. Wiggles
ketomai
Foolishness - actually here but being useless
Mig
Lanaia
What are your thoughts about recent events?
I think BC confuses the hell out of me. I think alignment checks should be done and not avoided as he appears to be trying.
I don't think that dropbear should have come out with the role he gave someone. That bothers me a lot, as who knows what the penalty could be at this point.
However, MR Wiggles brought up a good point that I'd thought of whilst reading. I had thought dropbear was town and was confused as to how he'd be able to do it unless mason.
Actually, do we know if someone gets a penalty? Is it possible host/DB haven't been around to either give it or announce it? Still, I think it wasn't a good idea if he's ACTUALLY the creator of the role.
Kurumi's role seems like it's a pain in the ass for him. I don't 100% understand what is going on with him.
I've reread kita and he really doesn't seem to have contributed much more than a few questions. For some reason, that typically feels scummy to me. On the other hand, sandroba appears to be doing to kita exactly what he has accused kita of, in a way.
On July 26 2011 06:29 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 06:18 Curu wrote:
And what's your reasoning behind that Foolishness? Why Lanaia or Wiggles, what have they done that stands out to you? Wiggles is probably an SK. Lanaia does not  seeM to be posting with a pro-town state of mind.
May I ask why you think I am not posting with a pro-town state of mind? I don't follow you.
It appears I've been combining Foolishness and BC into one entity. My bad.
I don't think BC is a good lynch today.
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On July 26 2011 06:48 heist wrote:
Actually, this must be it.
You are purposefully being stubborn to make yourself look suspicious to make scum go. "Oh hey, BC has half the town thinking he's scum. Let's leave him alone."
/joke
but seriously your only negative is that town will be stupid and misuse the information. That is not a good reason to not use the dt checks.
thats the best reason actually. Almost every game people rely on dt checks the town follows them like they are an act of god. Normally thats not terrible as mafia don't have dts, but 3 factions could all have them.
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On July 26 2011 06:52 sandroba wrote:
Let me say this. There is no advantage in NOT using the check. He is most likely town and will most likely end up dead at night. He wants to check you BC, why don't you oblige?
Because then I do die tonight. See I have this thing called self preservation and when I get confirmed as green by your magic dt, I get shot. As mafia / sks will want a confirmed BC dead and an angry town vig who thinks im a gf, or some other scum flavoured role immune to alignment checks will shoot me.
The check only makes sure I die.
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How about this BC. You submit to being checked by supersoft, who you said is likely Town, and you don't get lynched today if he says you're green.
You said the exact same thing I said in WaW2 to sandroba as scum rofl. Nice gambit, worked for me there, I hope it won't work for you here. The only reason you would say that unless you think I am 100% scum is to save yourself.
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Gah YM what did you start????
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On July 26 2011 06:55 Curu wrote:
How about this BC. You submit to being checked by supersoft, who you said is likely Town, and you don't get lynched today if he says you're green.
You said the exact same thing I said in WaW2 to sandroba as scum rofl. Nice gambit, worked for me there, I hope it won't work for you here. The only reason you would say that unless you think I am 100% scum is to save yourself.
I will agree only if you get lynched in my stead. You are pushing because you want me dead where if you go back and read my posts I am clearly town. You have pushed against me almost instantly behind my stance. Take the step. If i do what you ask, you get lynched / day vigi'd.
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On July 26 2011 06:53 Lanaia wrote:
I don't think BC is a good lynch today.
Why not?
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On July 26 2011 06:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 06:52 sandroba wrote:
Let me say this. There is no advantage in NOT using the check. He is most likely town and will most likely end up dead at night. He wants to check you BC, why don't you oblige? Because then I do die tonight. See I have this thing called self preservation and when I get confirmed as green by your magic dt, I get shot. As mafia / sks will want a confirmed BC dead and an angry town vig who thinks im a gf, or some other scum flavoured role immune to alignment checks will shoot me. The check only makes sure I die.
So then if you're shot we know supersoft is legit. Because if Mafia is trusting his claims then they must be legit.
You wanna pull out another WIFOM argument?
You think I'm scum BC? What about everyone else who has disagreed with your faulty reasoning?
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BC, I don't care if you do or don't get shot at night. You apparently don't like your role so your job as townie is to get shot for the greater good. To survive is mafia/sk job. Town only cares about not getting lynched. Maybe if you get a green result in return you will atract both a shot and a medic tonight and help us even further.
Anyway I still prefer a check on kita, on the off chance BC is being stubborn.
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On July 26 2011 06:58 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 06:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 26 2011 06:52 sandroba wrote:
Let me say this. There is no advantage in NOT using the check. He is most likely town and will most likely end up dead at night. He wants to check you BC, why don't you oblige? Because then I do die tonight. See I have this thing called self preservation and when I get confirmed as green by your magic dt, I get shot. As mafia / sks will want a confirmed BC dead and an angry town vig who thinks im a gf, or some other scum flavoured role immune to alignment checks will shoot me. The check only makes sure I die. So then if you're shot we know supersoft is legit. Because if Mafia is trusting his claims then they must be legit. You wanna pull out another WIFOM argument? You think I'm scum BC? What about everyone else who has disagreed with your faulty reasoning?
Faulty? Lawl. You reason for wanting me dead is faulty. If your town and so sure I'm red then bet your life on it. Or are you afraid you're wrong.
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Townies would never take that bet, that's absurd
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On July 26 2011 07:00 sandroba wrote:
BC, I don't care if you do or don't get shot at night. You apparently don't like your role so your job as townie is to get shot for the greater good. To survive is mafia/sk job. Town only cares about not getting lynched. Maybe if you get a green result in return you will atract both a shot and a medic tonight and help us even further.
Anyway I still prefer a check on kita, on the off chance BC is being stubborn.
What would you prefer? Me being my normal self, or me being insanely handicapped. Take your choice as thats what you get. My role actually handicaps my play completely. I merely have an option of using it or not.
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If I'm Town then I have no way to know you're red besides your scummy posting. Are you encouraging Townies to only push for lynches if they are 100% sure the person is red? Do you think I'm scum BC?
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On July 26 2011 07:01 syllogism wrote:
Townies would never take that bet, that's absurd
Really? If I am mafia or sk it would be a perfect bet for them. 1 random player to take down someone almost everyone in the game would mistrust or want dead if not on their team. How isn't that a good bet. Don't take a solid stance off faulty logic if you're afraid of the backlash.
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If you are being yourself right now gogo handicap! =P How about that check?
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I think kita is the best check right now.
Not possible to analyze with any real depth based on what he's posted. Just suspicious enough to make you wonder.
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BC, lemme ask you again.
Do you think I'm scum?
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On July 26 2011 07:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 07:01 syllogism wrote:
Townies would never take that bet, that's absurd Really? If I am mafia or sk it would be a perfect bet for them. 1 random player to take down someone almost everyone in the game would mistrust or want dead if not on their team. How isn't that a good bet. Don't take a solid stance off faulty logic if you're afraid of the backlash.
Because the alignment of someone else is never confirmed until they are lynched while I know my alignment? Even if, hypothetically, there's a 10% chance of you not flipping red, it's a bad bet. It's much better to just lynch you without taking it.
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On July 26 2011 06:58 chaos13 wrote:Why not?
Although he's strange, I think he's town. It's gut, most likely, but I feel strongly he's just stubborn town. He's giving me townvibes.
I really can't explain it more than that.
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