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On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?
One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.
This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).
The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.
Thoughts? Why would anyone, including scum, lie? Also, smooth one OriginalName.. Screw you I want powers. I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim. Im Townie Voldemort. Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension. I find Items I get powers. Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers. I have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that.
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On July 25 2011 10:38 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?
One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.
This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).
The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.
Thoughts? Why would anyone, including scum, lie? Also, smooth one OriginalName.. Screw you I want powers. I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim. Im Townie Voldemort. Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension. I find Items I get powers. Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers. To have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that. Are items a 1 use deal and can others use said items?
I have no idea.
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On July 25 2011 10:38 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?
One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.
This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).
The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.
Thoughts? Why would anyone, including scum, lie? Also, smooth one OriginalName.. Screw you I want powers. I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim. Im Townie Voldemort. Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension. I find Items I get powers. Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers. I have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that. EDIT You kill people and steal the items considering your Voldemort? also I'm going to sleep please sort this wand discussion out before I wake up.
No because the Wand is how I acquire said KP.
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On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it.
Will do.
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On July 25 2011 10:41 heist wrote:
I want full disclosure. What is your power to help procure these items?
What can you do with each individual item?
Its Night Talk with a player i can choose.
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On July 25 2011 10:46 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it. Please don't. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items. I'm Harry Potter. From: deconduo [ 2677 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: PTP2 Role Date: 7/25/11 08:50 "You are Harry Potter, and you are on a mission to unite the three Deathly Hallows. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items, same as you! Each item you or Voldemort obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night. The Elder Wand - Allows you to shoot someone during the night. The Cloak of Invisibility - Allows you to survive a hit during the night The Resurrection Stone - Allows you to protect another player during the night. The problem is, you do not know where the items are! You suspect they may be in possession of other people in the town. Being muggles, they may not be aware of the magical properties of the items. In order to find the items, you have the ability to choose one correspondent every day. During the following night, and that night only, you can freely exchange PMs. But you cannot talk once the night has passed. If your correspondent happens to possess one of the items you seek, he may decide to give it to you by sending a PM to the hosts of the game. You must convince them to do so, however!"
THEN WHY THE HELL DOES MY ROLE PM SAY TOWNIE?!?!?
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On July 25 2011 10:46 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it. Please don't. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items. I'm Harry Potter. From: deconduo [ 2677 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: PTP2 Role Date: 7/25/11 08:50 "You are Harry Potter, and you are on a mission to unite the three Deathly Hallows. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items, same as you! Each item you or Voldemort obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night. The Elder Wand - Allows you to shoot someone during the night. The Cloak of Invisibility - Allows you to survive a hit during the night The Resurrection Stone - Allows you to protect another player during the night. The problem is, you do not know where the items are! You suspect they may be in possession of other people in the town. Being muggles, they may not be aware of the magical properties of the items. In order to find the items, you have the ability to choose one correspondent every day. During the following night, and that night only, you can freely exchange PMs. But you cannot talk once the night has passed. If your correspondent happens to possess one of the items you seek, he may decide to give it to you by sending a PM to the hosts of the game. You must convince them to do so, however!"
This Line was nowhere near mentioned in my PM, also It just said Each item you or Harry Collects will grant the holder a Power.
Like I said before Harry Could also be Third Party or scum.
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On July 25 2011 10:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Yawn, can everyone stop with the fake claims already?
I can gurantee that Jackal is most certainly not Fake Claiming. as other than my slight formatting errror only the Names and the bolded line were different.
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On July 25 2011 10:55 sandroba wrote:
@ON your role pm says Townie?
Affermative.
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On July 25 2011 10:52 OriginalName wrote:On July 25 2011 10:46 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it. Please don't. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items. I'm Harry Potter. From: deconduo [ 2677 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: PTP2 Role Date: 7/25/11 08:50 "You are Harry Potter, and you are on a mission to unite the three Deathly Hallows. Each item you or Voldemort obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night. The Elder Wand - Allows you to shoot someone during the night. The Cloak of Invisibility - Allows you to survive a hit during the night The Resurrection Stone - Allows you to protect another player during the night. The problem is, you do not know where the items are! You suspect they may be in possession of other people in the town. Being muggles, they may not be aware of the magical properties of the items. In order to find the items, you have the ability to choose one correspondent every day. During the following night, and that night only, you can freely exchange PMs. But you cannot talk once the night has passed. If your correspondent happens to possess one of the items you seek, he may decide to give it to you by sending a PM to the hosts of the game. You must convince them to do so, however!" This Line was nowhere near mentioned in my PM, also It just said Each item you or Harry Collects will grant the holder a Power. Like I said before Harry Could also be Third Party or scum.
Replace Harry with Voldemort and Vice Versa and thats my PM. Notice i removed the Bolded line.
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On July 25 2011 10:58 sandroba wrote:
Well then, you are not townie. My role pm says a different term. My guess would be assassin that has to kill harry?
I think Im allowed to say my alignment was in a different PM?
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I can confirm that I now have the Wand, I also will not shoot unless I am absolutely sure my target is Anti-Town.
Which at this point is nobody. It will likely stay this way.
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Could i just give it back to you, I trust Jackal as far as i can throw him?
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On July 25 2011 11:17 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 11:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Jackal/On, why would you role claim when you knew it was likely that there was a rival that wanted you dead? I had no intention of claiming until I saw Sandroba saying he was going to pass the wand to ON.
Because Id rather not let the other person who may not be Town have a KP role.
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I WILL NOT GIVE THE WAND TO HARRY.
I WILL GIVE WAND TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT HARRY. PROVIDED THEY ALSO AGREE NOT TO GIVE IT TO HARRY
Thats the jist of what im saying. If you wish to lynch me im taking it to the grave. Id rather have a KP in town hands and dead then someone who i have no idea about alignment.
There is no reason for me to give up this item when I believe I can put it to use for what are my goals as well as the majority of your goals. While I wont say your scum for questioning this logic. For example If just claimed Item collecter 1 and Jackal claimed Item Collecter 2 would you have a hint of alignment. No the only thing that has anywhere near any meaning to alignment is the fact that IN CANON OF THE FLAVOUR OF THIS GAME VOLDEMORT IS EVIL.
Note: For all we know Mafia could be swell guys and not nessicarily evil we could live in a corrupt town of corporate bigots and dbags. Evil =/= Scum Scum = ANTI TOWN.
In fact for the remainder of the game we may as well call me item collecter 1 and jackal item collecter 2
Elder Wand = Gun
Cloak = BP Vest
Stone = Medkit
When you break it down into these kinds of terms its just an average game of mafia. The entireity of the case on me or Jackal being scum is purely flavour text in the PMs. I even asked Decon and my Win Con does not require me to kill Jackal in any way shape or form. And I have no reasoning to under the current conditions of the game.
Also i know better than to claim D1 as SK or Mafia, I only did it as town as I didnt want someone else to pick up a free KP.
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On July 25 2011 11:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
New idea:
-We vote for the use of the wand KP along with the normal lynch. We also include the vote of "No Kill"
-We stop discussing Voldemort and Harry Potter and try to scum hunt
-We only bring them up again if they act scummy, (Read: Beyond talking about their roles)
-If ON disobeys town wishes, we lynch him
Thoughts?
I am absolutely fine with all these points.
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Also before I hand it back to Sand I want a vote on weather you want me to keep it and use as essentialy a free double lynch OR weather we want it out and gone.
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On July 25 2011 11:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Can other players even use the wand if it was given to them? I had assumed it was only for ON or Jackal.
afaik only us two can recognize it as the elder wand and use it.
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Would anyone object to me giving the wand to Mig for now?
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Its Sands now, i swear if this ends up in Jackals hands I WILL see you hang.
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