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Gonna go watch some fireworks, see you people in a few hours. | ||
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On July 06 2011 03:44 Caller wrote: I will say though that not all missiles are created equal. So scum missiles do more damage? ##Operation Gunnerside | ||
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On July 06 2011 03:59 Ace wrote: ## nuke deconduo You made me have to check the player list. | ||
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On July 06 2011 04:00 syllogism wrote: What's with people making wild assumptions just to avoid voting for objectively the most pro-town campaign Gunnerside also prevents conspirator from winning and I doubt that there are more than 3 Boreritish commanders. | ||
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On July 06 2011 04:20 deconduo wrote: I was in the middle of writing a huge fuck you post when I realised you weren't in the game -_- That's why I made sure to check the player list before doing the same. | ||
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On July 06 2011 10:51 Curu wrote: Willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now. If you notice, I'm the one that called him out on the scumslip first so believe me I'm putting weight into it. sandroba's been more active than most though and his posts actually have content in them. My vote on him hinged on what operation he voted for and the one he did choose didn't set off my alarms. Nothing is more dangerous than scum being able to hide amongst Townie lurkers so that's my modus operandi until all the lurkers start doing something useful. This post is scummy as fuck. It sounds like you and sandroba are both scum, and you screwed up by sharing his scumslip and now you want to come back and defend your ally. Why should your vote hinge (to use your word) on which operation he voted for? Your vote should be for the scummiest player. The whole lurker excuse is complete bullshit. ##Vote: sandroba I propose a nuke of Curu | ||
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On July 06 2011 11:00 Curu wrote: lol? Why would I even point out his scumslip if I didn't want to draw attention to it? How cute, you ignore all the accusations on you in this thread and instead try to divert attention on me with something completely stupid and baseless. Seems like you're in a hurried panic, hmm? My vote hinged on what operation he voted for because he had a whole argument formed based on Mafia's nukes being useless. If sandroba had gone against that whole line of argument he was making (and he was quite involved with it) then he would have appeared scummy as fuck. But he didn't. Instead you now appear scummy as fuck. Saying a lurker excuse is bullshit without providing any reasoning? Proposing to nuke me because I didn't lynch based on a scumslip that I FIRST POINTED OUT? If I had wanted that scumslip unavoided I wouldn't have posted anything about it. I still want to draw the lurkers out but I'd suggest everyone keeping a firm eye on you. I acknowledge pressure votes of me in this thread, and that's why I'm accusing you. Note that the votes for me are pressure votes, not votes to kill me. What I'm saying is you are covering your mistake of pointing it out by not voting him now. I'm saying you made a mistake by pointing it out in the first place and want to correct it. There are other ways people can be scummy besides contradicting themselves. Just because sandroba didn't contradict himself doesn't mean he's clear at all. The lurker excuse was bullshit because you are using it to draw attention away from sandroba by choosing to lurker-hunt instead. You announce the scumslip on sandroba and then don't pressure him and make the excuse of wanting to find scum among lurkers. You could have just voted for sandroba, but you want to defend him because you are both scum. | ||
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On July 06 2011 11:14 Curu wrote: Ok explain one thing to me. Why did I point it out in the first place if we are both scum then? The whole bandwagon against sandroba is starting because of that scumslip. I POINTED OUT THAT SCUMSLIP. I'm not trying to back up and I'm not trying to cover my tracks. I drew attention to that scumslip because I wanted everyone to be aware of it. I just don't think it's as much grounds for serious pressuring yet based purely off of that. You STILL haven't posted anything explaining your scummy posting that's getting you pressured and instead try to draw attention to me. That's just creating more confusion for Town. You're looking scummier by the second. I'm not trying to draw attention away from sandroba. I'm going in with guns blazing. Every single one of my posts at him has mentioned his scumslip. I just don't think he's shown to be more dangerous (yet) than many other people. You very much included. I KNOW THAT YOU POINTED OUT THAT SCUMSLIP. I've said that multiple times. What I'm saying is that you realize how big of a deal that is and don't want to lose a teammate day one. I'd like an example of my "scummy posting that's getting me pressured" so I can explain it. Is that what you want? What do you mean "more dangerous?" If he's scum, you vote for him. Period. It's obviously better to lynch him than someone else who might be town but isn't playing well. Sometimes people forget that town wins when all of the scum are dead. If sandroba is scum, you kill him. | ||
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On July 06 2011 11:42 Curu wrote: Uhh, go look at the accusations against you. Don't pretend you haven't seen them, you acknowledged that you were being pressured but didn't post anything to explain yourself. If I didn't want to lose a "teammate" day one I never would have mentioned that scumslip in the first place. Honestly what advantage would that give to me? Explain it. If we're both scum, what advantage would me pointing out his scumslip give me? Town cred? I could only gain that if I followed up immediately with a full-out conviction to lynch him and the lynch went through. I don't know that he's scum. He has a scumslip but he gave his reasoning for that. You, on the other hand, have done nothing but try to redirect attention to me when there's pressure on you. Even then, you haven't brought up one legitimate reason against me besides that I pointed out a scumslip but am not foaming-at-mouth lynching the person responsible behind it. I explained my reasoning. Hell, sandroba even explained his reasoning for the slip. The only person who hasn't done anything constructive is you. I'm done arguing with you. We're just distracting the Town now and you don't seem to want to throw up anything constructive besides rehashing your non-points. I'm saying that you made a mistake. You might have been trying to bus your teammate to gain towncred later game but later changed your mind. There are other reasons as well. Also, there's nothing wrong with FoSing you while I'm under pressure, because I'm under pressure because I wasn't contributing. This is the start of my contribution. I'm trying to add to discussion. What does everyone else think of my accusation on sandroba and Curu? | ||
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On July 06 2011 09:00 syllogism wrote: I'm not happy with how quite a few approached the campaign options (by the way GMarshal, do you still think Gunnerside is the best one?), but I'm going to highlight Sinani206 first as he has been lurking. Many players were guilty of this kind of hasty/shallow/poor analysis, but this seems particularly worrisome as it looks like an attempt to gain town cred rather than a town person voting for the best option. All nukes are lethal without nuclear resistance/extra lives and I think it's safe to assume few roles will have such perks. Thus, these "special" nukes aren't really a bigger threat than regular ones, especially as scum doesn't know who is resistant. Moreover, there's no reason to think only scum roles could have such nukes or that the campaign would prioritize "special nukes". Sinani206 would you explain why you put so little effort into this? Kurumi's analysis of the options was strange as well. ##vote Sinani206 I don't agree that extra lives are a better choice that killing the scum's nukes. The nukes go through the extra lives. Destroying three nukes that can kill anything is better than protecting three people that can still be hit by those nukes. | ||
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On July 06 2011 13:57 heist wrote: I really hope to hear prplhz in why advocated all those poor decisions, but I'm willing to change my vote to someone more realistic, either Sinani or Palmar. I'm still keeping an eye out for him. In regards to Palmar, I don't really see how it does the mafia any good to send out a dud-nuke. He had to know that it would cause unwanted suspicion AND he didn't yet know it would go through extra lives. Sinani's response to pressure is just so wild and accusatory that I can't help become more suspicious. He still has said nothing of himself to ease our suspicions. Therefore, I will be changing my vote to Sinani. I already defended myself here, to syllogism's pressure vote of me. I don't understand why I'm still a "major lynch candidate," as I defended myself and FoSed two others. Does anyone have an actual analysis of how I'm scum? | ||
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The whole point of the nuke was to be a second lynch, and that is what we should use it for. Mataza should be policy nuked for nuking without a majority. And on the subject of who to lynch, ##Vote: ciryandor for active lurking and switching his vote without posting in-thread. | ||
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##Nuke: youngminii | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:10 GMarshal wrote: I am laughing so hard right now. I am too. | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:11 syllogism wrote: Sinani206 how many nukes did you have I have one more. But I can't use it unless someone else nukes me. SOMEONE PLZ DOUBLENUKE ME | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:13 sinani206 wrote: I have one more. But I can't use it unless someone else nukes me. SOMEONE PLZ DOUBLENUKE ME oh wait, i just got a pm that someone stole my third missile. that's too bad. | ||
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1. youngminii 2. JeeJee 3. -stolen- | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:19 youngminii wrote: ##Nuke Mataza fuck yes. | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:22 Caller wrote: this is invalid you already nuked somebody today and his launch was intercepted before you could retaliate. | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:25 syllogism wrote: Leon Trotsky doesn't sound like a gimmick name My official name is: COMRADE LEON TROT-ZE of the CCCP | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:27 sandroba wrote: Sinani are you imune to nuclear weapons too? no | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:27 sandroba wrote: I'm COMRADE UMADIMIR LENEN of the CCCP Hi5. HAI FIVE BRO | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:29 sandroba wrote: If anyone has anti nukes left and is town shoot down the one heading towards sinani. I'm certain he's town. yeah do that | ||
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On July 07 2011 06:13 Palmar wrote: So, this is fucking boring, so I'm setting up the Conspiracy market. You can buy useful stuff in here! The available products are. 1. Picture The highest bidder will be able to select one other player in the game, whose performance and personality I will then analyse, and draw a picture accordingly. 2. Vote The highest bidder will tell me who I'm voting for, cause I don't give a shit as long as the world ends. 3. Full scale analysis The highest bidder selects a person for me to analyse. I will go through every post and point made by that person and try to honestly analyse if they are part of the scumteam or not. This will not be trolling, as I just see it as a way of practicing scumhunting, so it will be completely honest! 4. Fire a dud nuke The highest bidder will select a person for me to shoot a dud nuke at. That'll be funny cause I say so, and also funny if the person happens to be a veteran or something. And here is the money you're getting: Not everyone gets money, cause not everyone deserves money. Sandroba: 5000$ for being scum in CC Kurumi: 3000$ for being Kurumi Youngminii: 5000$ for furthering my objectives GMarshal: 5000$ for being funny Deconduo: 2000$ for hosting PTP Sinani206: 3000$ for furthering my objectives Syllo: 2000$ for being an angry, naked, sauna-bathing, vodka-drinking Fin Drazerk: 7000$ for massive role-claim-trolling and randomly self-implementing a post restriction OpZ: 5000$ for actually being good at this game chaos13: 3000$ for always trying Mataza: 3000$ because wtf? prplhz: 2000$ for hanging out on IRC JeeJee: 2000$ for being funny TAA: 2000$ because I feel like it Cthsazsa: 3000$ cause you're nice and I can't spell your name Mig: 3000$ for not giving up in RTM The rest of you are lurkers or people I haven't played with before, so you're not getting anything. Maybe next time. Enjoy. Spend it well, the Vote will be sold at 09:00 KST The rest will all be sold after the first night. $5 for a dud nuke at Drazerk. | ||
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$7 for a dud nuke at me. | ||
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On July 07 2011 08:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote: The ability also destroys nukes, so use it on a suspicious player, but also one who has fired, or seems like he would fire, nukes in the future, as it would get rid of part of his arsenal. For example: Sandroba (Who I personally feel is town, but it would be nice to know for sure, I also don't trust him to not random-shoot) TAA (Wanted to use nukes earlier, this would remove part of his arsenal and reveal his alignment) Sinani206 (Who I feel is still suspicious, and who claims his last nuke was "stolen") I got a PM from caller after I launched my second nuke at JeeJee that my third nuke had been stolen and I now had zero nukes. | ||
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On July 07 2011 08:53 Palmar wrote: btw, 10 minutes until I lock my vote on TAA There's still another 7 hours left in the day, though. | ||
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Yay. | ||
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EDIT: Wow, I'm stupid. Anyway, GG all. | ||
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You may convert players once per day. You cannot convert Stalin or Molotov. If you have more people under your control than there are Soviets, and you attempt to convert Stalin, you instead start a revolution and kill Stalin, stealing his arsenal and power, as well as gaining two lives for both nuclear and night purposes. You win either by having more cult members than there are other players (Cult of Ze victory) or by winning with the Allies upon Stalin’s death. If you die all cult members anonymously revert back to their original factions. Other cult members share similar win conditions. You win with allies or above conditions (redundancy ftw) You have 3 nukes. then: one of your missiles got jacked, if you haven't received this message already. You now have zero nukes. | ||
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