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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 02:38 GMT
#427
/shakes head

you never lynch the most vocal players day 1, as theres a more than even chance they are town, if they are really vocal and scum then by day 2 their true colors will probably be apparent.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 09:26 GMT
#498
Mataza nuked. Mataza dies.

Alignment is irrelevant, this is a policy lynch, in fact, if the nuke phase isn't over I request permission to counternuke so that our lynch can actually generate information.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 10:18 GMT
#507
On July 06 2011 19:14 syllogism wrote:
So with the options being lynching a scummy player (Palmar) and policy lynching a likely townie (ask yourself, is mafia ever going to be doing that on day 1 after we we had agreed to policy lynch anyone for it), why are so many of you going for the latter

Policy is policy for a reason. if we write off every random nuke as "oh, scum would NEVER do that" the then mafia is going to nuke to blend in. We are shutting down that option, now.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 10:21 GMT
#511
On July 06 2011 19:20 syllogism wrote:
Are you going to lynch him even if the nuke didn't go off due to the nuclear phase being over

He had the intent to nuke. Yes. Yes we are.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 10:24 GMT
#514
On July 06 2011 19:22 syllogism wrote:
The focus on killing Conspirator is misguided. Killing him brings us no closer to winning the game and does not allow us to use nukes freely. It's possible he has some anti-town powers, but we'll likely know that soon enough

Im not trying to kill the conspirator. I don't give a damn if he lives or dies as long as we keep from random nuking. I'm enforcing a policy that the majority of the town has agreed to in order to keep order and avoid random nukes. That is all.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:12 GMT
#518


I call upon All Townies to halt and eliminate this clandestine, reckless, and provocative threat to world peace and to stable relations between our nations. I call upon you all further to join in an historic effort to end the perilous arms race and to transform the history of man. You have an opportunity now to move the world back from the abyss of destruction by refraining from any action which will widen or deepen the present crisis, and then by participating in a search for peaceful and permanent solutions.

Our goal is not the victory of might, but the vindication of right; not peace at the expense of freedom, but both peace and freedom, here in this hemisphere, and, we hope, around the world. God willing, that goal will be achieved.

That is all
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:48 GMT
#531
On July 06 2011 20:39 syllogism wrote:
Anyone wanting to lynch a townie is scum. The ones voting to lynch Mataza better believe there's at least a decent chance of him flipping red

Nope, I belive he'll flip green. I'm still killing him for breaking the established policies. I don't give a damn what you think of me as a result, but I will NOT allow this town to fall into "I nuke cause I'm town, lol!"
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:49 GMT
#532
On July 06 2011 20:41 prplhz wrote:
Also, GMarshal, did you get any PMs from Caller when the nuke landed on you or something?

No PM's from Caller or ON as of yet, why?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:52 GMT
#534
On July 06 2011 20:49 prplhz wrote:
Because a nuke landed on you.

Yeah, I'm aware, I wanted to know why you were asking
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 12:15 GMT
#541
On July 06 2011 21:11 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 18:09 Palmar wrote:
On July 06 2011 17:54 syllogism wrote:
I'm not going to lynch someone I think is town, especially if the nuke didn't actually get launched


So, first you call me out for not wanting to commit to a plan that I see flawed, but then as soon as the time comes to act on it, you pull out yourself?

What's the point of the entire argument and creating policies if we're not going to follow them?

We settled on a policy, I grudgingly did so and now people want me lynched for not instantly praising the policy, that might actually work in the conspirator's favor. Yes, I don't want to use a vote-nuke tomorrow either. We can do it later in the game, but Sandroba's eagerness to use nukes rubs me the wrong way.

But we settled on it, if we don't lynch Mataza we've basically declared the policy worthless. The brilliant part of this is that you might even know Mataza is town, and thus when this is over, you reluctantly lynch him, but gain fuckton of town credit for "trying to stop a lynch on an innocent".

I'm not going to buy this.

We're lynching Mataza, and if he flips town, I'm not giving you any town credit for trying to stop it. As far as I'm concerned you're scum. I find your willingness to break policies very anti-town, it's actually worse than arguing against them, because you're basically tearing them apart at your own wish.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 18:26 GMarshal wrote:
Mataza nuked. Mataza dies.

Alignment is irrelevant, this is a policy lynch, in fact, if the nuke phase isn't over I request permission to counternuke so that our lynch can actually generate information.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 17:52 Palmar wrote:
On July 06 2011 17:47 syllogism wrote:
I'm pretty sure Mataza is town. This is the weakness of the plan; dumb townies.


I still think he needs to be hanged, if we don't do it we might see scum that are not under suspicion at current do the same, and then just hide behind their good reputation.

That's why it's a policy, we need to enforce it.


I don´t have the time to read the last 3 pages, but i am sick of the word policy already.
I am sorry for interrupting your World at Conference Mafia, but I wanted play WAW Mafia 2.
This is supposed to be awesome, not boring. I stand with my missile and I did fire a missile, I guarantee that. What´s on it you will see.

Also if there is a conspirator he will be unable to nuke someone, logically. His aim is to get others nuking, not to do all the work himself. Just like Mafia are usually a minority on who to lynch.

I regret nothing. Screw policies.

Then thats your way of playing. I'm playing to win.A nuke scorched wasteland does not bring me any closer to winning, so I'm not going to allow you or anyone to encourage one.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 12:19 GMT
#543
On July 06 2011 21:15 prplhz wrote:
What the hell is awesome about ruining everything for everybody? Either you're a douchebag or you're a terrorist with no place in this game or in any game. In the latter case, get the fuck out. If you don't want/have time to read the game then you shouldn't be in it anyway. I hope you get modkilled so we save a lynch.

If there is any undiclosed reason for your lunacy that you can't reveal, then it better be really good.

Calm down man, he just fired a nuke for "fun". No need to rage, we just deal with it as we decided.

Play nice, no need to rage and create bad feelings.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 12:55 GMT
#546
well, that settles that.

See you in hell Mataza.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 13:28 GMT
#553
On July 06 2011 22:25 syllogism wrote:
The name claim order can be randomized or in order of scumness. Obviously the more claims we get, the easier it is to lie

Yes, lets oust all the power roles.

I think mass claiming is a terrible idea, scum won't have that hard a time lying, and its just going to let the mafia figure out who the best targets are.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 14:57 GMT
#576
On July 06 2011 23:44 syllogism wrote:
I agree on GMarshal, for the reasons you stated and due to his initial choice of campaign and the reasoning behind it. It seemed to me there was initially some coordinated effort to get use to go for that campaign, though perhaps that's too daring. If Palmar flips red, I will definitely be pushing to get GMarshal lynched, barring some new information pointing to other direction


Yep, I'm scum because I thought extra lives didn't apply to nukes, great catch. You realize you are FoSing pretty much every vocal player out there, right? The people that talk can be worrisome, sure, but right now we have to worry about those who aren't talking.

If you think i'm scum I welcome any case you may have, otherwise don't just say "is scum for wanting to destroy mafia nukes" that seems to make little sense.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 15:17 GMT
#588
On July 07 2011 00:08 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 23:57 GMarshal wrote:
On July 06 2011 23:44 syllogism wrote:
I agree on GMarshal, for the reasons you stated and due to his initial choice of campaign and the reasoning behind it. It seemed to me there was initially some coordinated effort to get use to go for that campaign, though perhaps that's too daring. If Palmar flips red, I will definitely be pushing to get GMarshal lynched, barring some new information pointing to other direction


Yep, I'm scum because I thought extra lives didn't apply to nukes, great catch. You realize you are FoSing pretty much every vocal player out there, right? The people that talk can be worrisome, sure, but right now we have to worry about those who aren't talking.

If you think i'm scum I welcome any case you may have, otherwise don't just say "is scum for wanting to destroy mafia nukes" that seems to make little sense.

I know your active lurking and very defensive by know, but more interesting stuff has happened than what syllo said about you, what are your thoughts on the situation?
Lynch or nuke ?
Anti or dead sandy?
chaos13?

I prefer a nuke, but the town seems deadset on a lynch, and I want to avoid Mataza launching retaliatory strikes, so I suppose the lynch is the way to go, although we should start discussing tomorrow's nuke/lynch target.

Anti or dead, I think that whoever is holding the anti-nuke should make that decision. Do they think that sand is town enough to expend what might be our only insurance against doomsday? I think its a judgment call on whoever has it, if they have many and are likely to be night killed soon, then yes shoot away, if they have almost none and are immune to night kills, well then perhaps holding on to it is better.

Chaos13 seems to me to be doing what he did in RTM, I like how he wants to keep discussion focused. Want more from him though

I hardly call what I'm doing active lurking, I'm just not as active as usual. I did warn you guys early on (pregame) NOT to apply meta to me this game, I'm trying something completely different, again if you think I'm scum point to why, not to meta.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 15:20 GMT
#589
On July 07 2011 00:13 Mataza wrote:
If you were a bit more well versed in certain history facts of a certain nation you could actually deduce my alignment by my roleplaying.
I am still in here for the fun. If I don´t have fun while winning, why do I even bother signing up?
I don´t. It may be less effective but it is definitely more enjoyable.
I prefer going down laughing then winning sadly.

How any of my actions make me conspirator is beyond me.
If anything, it would show I suck as conspirator, which I think should be pretty damn hard.
I showed that I fired a missile and even if I didn´t say what is in it or not in it, no one suddenly went in and fired his nukes at some else. The nuclear holocaust you are fearing is not gonna happen.
Actually, retaliatory nukes by townies against townies will only happen if you are uptight enough to take a lynch as personal insult and get worked up over that.
Relax and everything´s gonna be alright. You should trust Bob Marley on that. he is a much wiser man than me.

You can have fun without violating international law you know?

Hell if you had waited till day 3 or so I'm sure we'd have some kind of triggering event or a couple tunneling townies triggering WWIII. You could have been part of the chaos and watched me sob as the town broke down into chaos. Instead you had to fire a nuke with next to no reasoning, and not leaving it up for town discussion first.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 15:26 GMT
#591
On July 07 2011 00:23 Palmar wrote:
is mataza soft-claiming that his nuke is either a dud or something completely different?

I guess we'll find out when it lands, won't we?

Unless someone shoots it down that is.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 15:32 GMT
#594
On July 07 2011 00:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 22:35 deconduo wrote:
~OPZ~ where are you. Stop lurking so hard and dropping votes without talking.

I would post, but I've been....Indisposed. Something came up that I've been waiting FOREVER for. When I planned to get on and actually be focused I got a phone call from the one....and she was like "I'm in town" and I was like "OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGMG" in my head and replied "That's cool." So....Turning her back into "The One" became priority number one, when priority number one should of been nailing the bitch. I didn't expect that at all though. And I'm sorry for my inactivity, but it is what it is...I just want to be happy with my red head before she goes back to Middle Georgia (probably today, considering she was "gonna leave last night" before she called me, but the repeated hints of "well my classes are all online this semester so I don't NEED to go back) Wish me luck?.

Best of luck then man! ^_^
See you in about 24(?) hours.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 15:34 GMT
#596
Also, VOTE TIME.

We all agree Mataza needs to be killed. We can nuke him and use the lynch on someone else, so lets have a vote, if I can get 15 people to agree in time we nuke Mataza, otherwise we lynch.

So vote in the following way
I vote to nuke Mataza
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 15:35 GMT
#597
On July 07 2011 00:33 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
wait there is a SK? Thats nowhere in the op, if thats a slip it is the most obvious one ive ever seen.

I think he's talking about the conspirator.
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