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Since LaL isn't starting anytime soon after all. +2 GMT isn't ideal for this though | ||
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No hits will be allowed 6 hours before the lynch. I will further consult with other hosts and decide if this rule needs further alteration. I might just change it to no hits on the top 2 vote getters. Thus if you have to role claim, do it within that time frame unless you know you've a medic on you, though it would be hilarious if someone went "I am the Detective, long post shortly" and got instasniped. Role claiming in this format is even worse than in standard format because you can immediately get hit and even if you don't, one medic can't keep you safe througout the day. One roleblocker can nullify a detective despite the block only lasting for 36 hours because it also takes 12 hours to get detective results. Detectives should time their checks so that they get the results back early enough to potentially make a case for someone. If you know you aren't going to be around, do it earlier. At least on D1, medics should send in their targets very early and ideally so that the [36h] protection wears off before the the no-hits period begins. This is not to say you should time it exactly, as that would leave mafia a six hour time frame of guaranteed non-protection. The first six hours of the day and the last six hours of when hits are still allowed are most likely mafia hit times. If medic actions can't be sent in advance and overlap is to be avoided, medics have to be around for the day post so that they can immediately send in their next saves. Obviously if mafia has used their KP for the day, you should send in your save right before the lynch. Having said that, I think they are just as likely, especially from day 2 onwards, to take their chances and just ignore all of above. They don't have to send in their hits all at once and using some or all of them to derail town discussions and force WIFOM is worth the risk. Past day 1 good medics who can be active throughout the day should just act based on what's going on. Whether a lurker check is worth doing over a normal check, knowing that mafia will likely avoid lurking, isn't clear to me. Further, if there are two detectives and only a few lurkers, they will likely check the same people. We can slightly decrease the probablity of this occurring by dividing the player list into two and having the detective in the first half to do a lurker check and the other one a normal one, but that could also lead to no lurker check. Due to the possibility of a compulsive vig being in the game, from day 2 onwards we should determine the best vig targets every day. I suppose someone usually does it in a standard game as well, but it should be more of a democratic process in this game. | ||
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My plan for lynch was going to be lynching someone who has posted a lot to avoid being on the lurker list without contributing anything, but unfortunately some players feel the need to post their every single thought, including the fact this is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives present. I even hinted that Dropbear should stop alluding to this plan as it relies on players not actually being aware of it, but he still made another reference. | ||
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I'm starting to reconsider whether this approach is good and whether I actually enjoy playing mafia. | ||
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On June 29 2011 05:06 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2011 04:50 syllogism wrote: Even assuming GM is red, it's fairly unlikely he felt threatened enough to ask his scum team to intervene. There is over 30 hours until lynch and he had one or two votes on him. It's just silly to attempt to find such connections on day 1 and this early. Stop that shit. All you've done all game long is posting neutral blanket statements. Sorry, that's not neutral, that's just an argument against making bad cases early on. You've done nothing at all either so. I'm not going to stop pointing out bad logic or poor cases and I'm frankly of the opinion unless there's a big slip on d1, the odds of actually lynching scum aren't higher than with a pure random lynch | ||
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Just hit that all button, press ctrl-f and type Palmer Then look through the useless pile of junk he's created | ||
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Also I maintain my analysis of the game mechanics was clearly pro-town and useful, which is more than can be said of your contributions so far. | ||
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Around 15 people haven't even voted yet and most of them haven't expressed any suspicion yet. See the problem? | ||
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On June 29 2011 08:05 hiro protagonist wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2011 07:58 syllogism wrote: So let's see Hiro, 3 hours ago you made a post promising you had some "leads" and would make a case on me (when in fact, there was already a bad case/wagon which you never improved) and go "scum hunting". Now 3 hours later you still haven't made a case, jump on the said stupid and easy wagon, vote for me citing my lack of opinions so far being your sole reason despite this being your first complete non-fluff post. Are you not seeing the hypocrisy? Around 15 people haven't even voted yet and most of them haven't expressed any suspicion yet. See the problem? no problem, glad your here. who do you think is scum? I already stated that Drazerk is suspicious and if the lynch was to be held right now, I would be voting for him. I will be looking through more post histories tomorrow and vote accordingly. There are a lot of players who haven't been contributing anything at all while obviously being present (jackal for one has been posting one liners that aren't even game related) and he doesn't always play like that, so he is definitely one I will be paying more attention to. Sinani206's play is different from his town play in XLII, but he is also new so I'm not sure if that meta is helpful. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10037034 That post could also be him breadcrumbing with the whole "strong scum vibes", but he follows that up by saying he isn't so sure. So, assuming he DT checked Drazerk, he must have at that point known his alignment. I don't see why he would hesitate rather than push harder. | ||
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On June 30 2011 04:35 ~OpZ~ wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2011 05:39 TheAwesomeAll wrote: Drazerk gives me really strong strong scum vibes. Though at this point it doesnt make much sense anymore. Care to explain why you started to attack the sinani's? Hitting them doesnt make sense to me at all, they are playing anti town, but not scum. Everything pointed at GM at that point. Killing them seems a bit premature. so if drazerkcan explain that a bit more would be nice. syllo, stop taking everything so personal, and stop arguing makes you look bad/scum also makes it hard for me to read you. Cya in the morning guys, hope i wont be dead <3 DTCHEGMKC DT Check GM?, or Drazerk? is it a command? Was he actually breadcrumbing? Is this a coincidence....WE MAY NEVER KNOW. I'm fine lynching GM, while we all are bsing, but that can wait a few days I guess...Drazerk or VE is perfectly fine with me...unless someone wants to lynch a sinani.... Looks like DT CHEK DRAZERK to me, which would explain why he stopped pushing for him. Going back 12 hours from that post, he would have had to make the decision to check Drazerk based on this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10027708 | ||
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On June 30 2011 07:11 GMarshal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 07:05 syllogism wrote: I think there's 6 hours left until lynch based on the day post, which would mean the third kill was indeed a mafia kill and not a vigi hit. Well, unless someone someone was double stacked, but that seems unlikely. So, who do you think should be lynched today? The one I'm voting for obviously, VisceraEyes. He seems to have disappeared and I don't think Drazerk being mafia makes sense based on how he has behaved in the last few hours and the fact TAA got hit. | ||
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I'm going to bed in a bit, and I still think Drazerk is the worst lynch out of the three alternatives and Sinani206's voluntary activity despite there not being that much pressure on him is making him look better. Sinani201/Nisani201 seems like a decent vigi possibility tomorrow. | ||
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On June 30 2011 18:17 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 18:11 syllogism wrote: If your action is on a timer and you are roleblocked, do you get the notified of the roleblock immediately lol stop soft-claiming and just ask the hosts in pm. That wasn't a soft claim. I was wondering why VisceraEyes wasn't roleblocked immediately. Perhaps there are two GFs, though that seems like a stupid idea in this format | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 15:47 youngminii wrote: LOLWUT That was completely unexpected, I've never played a nightless game before. I'm going to assume that it was a scum hit? The mafia were clearly trying to blue snipe and LSB seemed as if he was creating a plan. This leads me to believe the scum misinterpreted this as a Vet (no not experienced player, I mean the actual role) trying to make a good plan/trap to catch scum. My guess? The mafia roleblocked him and killed him hoping he was a Vet or at least a blue. If the above is true, then this is a best case scenario for us as it means no other blue role will be roleblocked today. His understanding of the real time mechanics is bizarrely poor. He is a good player, so why is this the case? Further, you ”assumed” that was a scum hit? There was absolutely no chance at all that being a one-shot vigi hit and you know that. Seems like a scum overcompensating due to him knowing for a fact it was a scum hit. That roleblocking scenario makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 16:32 youngminii wrote: I can see what sandroba's saying, I don't fully agree but I don't fully disagree either. As for your point #4 I have actually acknowledged that as a complete fail by me, and you're actually wrong, roleblocks do in fact block the Vet's extra life, I took the time to ask RoL. If you're going to make snide (rude) remarks about the people you are accusing, at least check your facts before blatantly throwing around 'facts'. I'm not impressed by the way you're handling yourself this game but I'm fairly certain you're not a scum. If I was a DT and I was suspicious of GM, I would check him. I'm not going to tell you to do it though since we're operating a "do what you want" policy this game afaik. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 00:09 youngminii wrote: i like the way you think theawesomeall don't worry about palmar though, he's always like this i can only think of gmarshal as the best dt candidate for now okay i'm gonna head off now i'll be back when i wake up + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 16:52 youngminii wrote: It's completely situational though, say everyone on the lurker list is scummy. Then obviously the DT will check them. But what if they're not, what if there are more pressing issues at hand and you really need to check someone like you or me or GM? This is why the threat of being kicked into the lurker list is enough, while blues should do what they feel is best. Enough of this talk imo, I absolutely agree with TheAwesomeAll's post but there's soo many people who basically haven't posted yet either. I'm going to head out for a bit and I'll stop clogging up the thread until more people have posted. Ciao ^o^ Early on, he seemed to think GM was a good DT check target, but was really wishy washy about it for no reason. I find it hard to believe he didn't realize by this point he would very likely be GF or town. In addition, he agrees with TAA's post about GM being suspicious, but then sort of doesn't because not enough people have posted yet? I guess ”clogging up the thread” with actual analysis isn't something that would serve your goals. He never really ended up doing any analysis despite there being an abudance of material. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 16:40 youngminii wrote: Well okay I don't see anything wrong with lynching Drazerk now. I'll laugh my ass off if he flips non-red. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2011 02:25 youngminii wrote: To the person that said "What if he checked GM". If you go back and read his posts he explicitly says "DT don't bother checking GM, if he's scum he's definitely GF so it would be a waste". To which I agree. Hence Drazerk is our best target. You can argue on whether or not he checked him but it doesn't really matter, he's the best target going on from the information we have. If you don't agree then there's either something seriously wrong with you or you're scum, plain and simple. In any case, he tunneled Drazerk pretty damn hard, I didn't agree with his opinions at all but here we are. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 13:28 youngminii wrote: I thought I told you guys to stop this shit with sinani. The Palmar lynch I can completely understand. He's terrible yada he likes bandwagons he just wants to kill people etc. I KNOW This is his town play. Sure, there's a possibility that he's mafia and he's hiding behind his regular town meta (unlikely) but this is just him, you can't do anything about that. In fact, I've heard his scum play is excellent (never seen it myself), if so why would he post like a poor town? Anyway, between hiro drazerk syllo I'm gonna go with syllo. I firmly believe that both hiro and syllo are scum at this very moment, drazerk's posts are too shallow to make a judgement out of. For syllo, some of you are arguing that his first post about helping direct blues should relieve him as that is clearly town favoured. Wrong, go read that post again, it's a very heavily veiled post that doesn't actually help anyone. Do you really think a medic won't know that the last 6 hours of a day is unhittable? What syllo does is point this out, then says but medics shouldn't save straight away because scum will hit in the 6 hours before the last 6, but then it's up to the medics because if we tell them what to do scum will abuse it etc. etc. Then in the next paragraph he completely nullifies everything he said by saying "But nah, you can ignore everything I said if you want". Just remember, lots of scum like to make a huge 'helpful' post at the start to appear as townie as they can. I've seen this first hand. Every post he has made until Palmar calling him out has been extremely neutral and unhelpful to the town cause. As soon as Palmar gets to him, syllo OMGUS votes Palmar? Yeah and there was the whole EXTREMELY WEAK hiro voting for syllo for 'pressure' and after like a one liner from syllo hiro backs off. Best candidate, by far. Easily. However, then he later retroactively, while bussing his teammates, agrees that DT checking GM was a bad idea after all! Also this is when bussing begins. His justification for voting Drazerk is very strange. Previously he didn't have an opinion on Drazerk because his posts are too ”shallow” (???). Also note that suddenly the real time mechanics are completely obvious, while initially he didn't even realize mafia could kill in real time. On June 30 2011 02:30 youngminii wrote: No, I don't agree with his case. I had no opinion of Drazerk and I still don't, not one big enough to justify a lynch. However, when a DT dies and his last action was to tunnel a guy who shouldn't have had a case on him in the first place, coupled with his theory of Drazerk and GM working together, it logically makes sense to go after Drazerk since he felt so strongly about it. Could he have just tunneled Drazerk without a check? Yes. But it's just as likely that he did check him, we don't know for sure. What I'm trying to say is, Drazerk is the most logical lynch based on the information we have. You seriously want to lynch VisceraEyes for his somewhat questionable actions? It's not THAT scummy to prioritise him over the guy that the DT was gunning for. Wow, you still don't have an opinion on Drazerk despite wanting to lynch him. By that point it had been repeatedly pointed out that the time line on TAA checking Drazerk doesn't make sense. Also saying it's just as likely that he was DT checked than not shows he either doesn't care about the game mechanics or pretends to be oblivious. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2011 02:42 youngminii wrote: lol I said I wouldn't vote him if it was just based on the analysis against him. However, with the whole DT thing I believe his lynch would be completely justified. @syllo, I somewhat agree and I was considering whether or not my vote on him is justified (I still think it is) and then I came across this: Show nested quote + On June 29 2011 08:56 Drazerk wrote: Well looks like I am dead, At least when I am dead ill flip green Proving GM is innocent. Was bound to happen as I am always day 1 lynch suspect. When I die you will be at a disadvantage but at least you will have a Guaranteed Townie. ( Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain ) I'm off to bed I am sick of this "nah i'm dead anyway i'm off see ya" attitude. I've been seeing this far too often lately and I'll be more than happy to policy lynch this. People speak of creating pro-town conditions? This is just about as anti-town as you can get. This attitude where you roll over and die is absolutely unacceptable. We have to create a town meta where this will get punished, just like lurkers getting policy lynched and what not. tl;dr kill drazerk With the DT check in doubt and me and chaos13 voiced our suspicions regarding him wanting to lynch Drazerk despite not having an opinion on him and thinking TAA's case against him wasn't good his hilarious weak justification for voting for him was gone, he had to backpedal a bit and find a better excuse for bussing. He still didn't bother doing any real analysis, just found one post with him martyring that had already been pointed out. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2011 03:01 youngminii wrote: Show nested quote + On June 30 2011 02:50 sandroba wrote: Okay, half your analysis is based on other players aligment. Let me say this, if you think GM or whoever else is scum go ahead and vote for him. The fact that Drazerk defended GM says nothing. Every aligment has resons to defend town/scum (they trully believe they are town / defending teamates/ gaining town cred). They way he went about defending GM gets him town points in my book even if GM is scum. Only the first post you quoted I agree it can be interpreted as scum behaviour, but I don't think it's soliid enough to warrant this huge quickforming bandwagon. fuck yeah you are the towniest motherfucker in this entire thread hi5 palmar i wish you'd just stick to one guy, other than that i've enjoyed your more recent posts let me ask you this if we lynch visceraeyes and he flips red, what information do we gain? am i suddenly scum because chaos13 linked us together? i hardly think so if we lynch drazerk and he flips red, dear god we have a ton of information, syllo is under fire, gm is under fire, lots of the people that are on the viscera train are under fire then again, based on recent games they're both probably non-red lawlawlawl remember: lynching based on analysis on day 1 is relatively difficult and pretty luck based, i'm a lot more comfortable following a possible dt check He wants to lynch Drazerk for information, which is generally a terrible reason to lynch someone, but not for him because he is bussing his teammate and knows if he flips red he can get a bunch of townies lynched based on them being on the wrong wagon. On June 30 2011 10:20 youngminii wrote: Also, huge /facepalm on town for forcing a DT roleclaim. Did you seriously think VisceraEyes was playing scummy? Think very carefully and reflect upon these words: He is not the one that played badly. YOU are. Scum slip? Why do you think it's town forcing a DT to roleclaim rather than scum team? This is also when he says VE was obviously a townie, despite not actually making any effort to get Drazerk lynched. On June 28 2011 15:05 youngminii wrote: Show nested quote + On June 28 2011 14:55 sandroba wrote: Okay, I'm going to go completely against everything that's been said so far. Mafia are not dumb. They are very likely NOT going to lurk in this game. People should NOT be shooting into the lurker list until later or only if this becomes a real problem. You guys can argue WIFOM all you want, but I'm willing to bet mafia won't find themselves in the lurker list any time soon. Also we shall not make any lists this game. We will discuss 2-3 players at a time and leave blues to act on their own. I shall start discussing YM. You pretty much started being agressive as always, but I feel after Mafia XLII you must have learned already that this is gonna lead us to endless confusion, no? My opinion is that you are abusing your town meta this game, throwing pointless flawed acusations like there's no tomorrow. Makes a lot of sense as scum trying to hide their colors doesn't it? It does make a lot of sense but I seriously just have to throw it out there: My scum play is even worse than my town play, if you can imagine. You say I've thrown around pointless flawed accusations but I haven't really, in XLII I tunneled 2 people with lengthy analyses but this game I've done no such thing, nothing of the sort although I am trying to maintain the same level of aggressiveness. I agree with you that arguing WIFOM is stupid though. Who gives a flying fuck who the mafia are gonna shoot on that list (well the medic does but discussing it isn't going to help), all you're going to do is waste valuable time and space and confuse everyone and everything. I agree, your scum play is incredibly bad, as shown above. That is also why your "lengthy analyses" are missing. Youngminii is SCUM | ||
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On July 01 2011 00:41 Palmar wrote: lol, that's convenient. I wonder what propped that shot, youngminii and I pointing in his direction? Go town, lol Can you link me to where youngminii pointed to his direction? | ||
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His response to my case, especially #7 was quite weak as well, considering he freely admitted to tunneling townies in XLII and a lot of veterans also thought VE was acting out of character. Soon after the case he posted that "he was pretty damn satisfied" with my recent posts, but then 10 minutes later decided keeping his vote on me was worth it after all based on chaos13 looking "god damn pro-town" | ||
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I've been fairly lenient in terms of what I consider "being around", mainly because it's possible that there is no host around when the PM is sent. Some players can be removed from consideration as they aren't realistic GF candidates or even players who would be sending in mafia kills. Palmar initially wasn't around for the first kill and in fact wasn't initially going to participate, so I don't think he can be the GF, just based on the fact he wouldn't have been elected due to being absent or uncertain to participate. Further, the real time aspect of the game makes it likely the GF is someone who can be around at the time of the day post. The only person who has without a doubt been around every single time is youngminii. Mr. Wiggles has been around at least 4 times and Gmarshal 3. Of course, it's entirely possible to decide on the kills beforehand, but the kills haven't been sent immediately after the day posts and appear at least somewhat reactionary. It's also possible for the GF to be lurking, but generally GF is very active. This isn't damning evidence, but taking into account who the likely GF candidates are in terms of experience, thread activity and finally the known scum team, I think there's a high chance one of above is GF. Youngminii is obviously my pick so far. Oh and I just noticed youngminii actually knew that the game has 4-5 KP and then later "mistakenly" thought mafia has only 1. To be fair, as he pointed out, he is co-hosting Closed Casket mafia, which only has 1. He also was somewhat asking to be DT checked here. Seems odd he wanted possible GF candidates to be checked and included himself. Finally, Dropbear publicly disagreed with youngminii's "case" against me. Some here obviously disagree, but I think the case was really weak and I find it curious Dropbear bothered to adress it even in this length. Could have just been him distancing himself from Youngminii. Oh, and Dropbear was a roleblocker and they both australians, making it easier to coordinate. A lot of WIFOM above, but when combined with my earlier case against youngminii, I think youngminii is a good lynch today. Someone should compile another list of players who were active at the time of the kills to make sure I got it right. Youngminii is GF | ||
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What is the alternative method of dealing/confirming him then? Make him do the same check tomorrow? Mafia could kill proposed targets and giving him too much leeway would allow him checking another mafia. Moreover, the target would likely be VT. Unless we get lucky, I don't think we can trust him unless he gives us a red. | ||
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VE makes his case June 30 2011 02:37 [B]On June 30 2011 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote: In light of 206 triumphant return, I will go back and reread 201's posts. I'm not really convinced, but since I'm catching flak for sticking to my guns against Drazerk, I'm willing to bend in the name of clearing my name. Palmar, if you DARE say I'm scummy for doing so, so help me..... Are you telling me you got a guilty check in Drazerk, wrote your case, and then 6 hours later you were willing to "bend" in the name of clearing your name? Is that right? | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:07 GMT
#1262
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:27 GMT
#1267
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:28 GMT
#1268
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:30 GMT
#1269
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:31 GMT
#1273
Also if you are gf/mafia, this gambit is a waste of time | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:37 GMT
#1278
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:41 GMT
#1284
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:47 GMT
#1292
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 00:47 GMT
#1293
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 01:02 GMT
#1303
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 01:19 GMT
#1321
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 01:23 GMT
#1324
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 01:25 GMT
#1327
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 08:06 GMT
#1391
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 08:15 GMT
#1393
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 08:20 GMT
#1394
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 08:27 GMT
#1395
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 08:27 GMT
#1396
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 09:24 GMT
#1401
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 10:45 GMT
#1411
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 11:03 GMT
#1413
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10089038 Soft claiming vigi? The only reason why you aren't the #1 target is the fact you subbed sinani206, which would mean top 3 lynch wagons on day 1 were scum | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 14:48 GMT
#1418
On June 29 2011 06:50 Rean wrote: Just wanted to apologize to everyone for subbing out, but I got in some trouble at school today which means I won't have the time to take this game as serious as i'd like and I don't want to ruin it for others by being inactive. On June 29 2011 06:29 GGQ wrote: Havent followed this thread at all, will be back later tonight with a post, I hope. I'm not mafia, though. Oh On June 29 2011 12:36 GGQ wrote: As a sidenote, to whoever is the 'third party' that's deciding on the lurker list, I am physically capable of posting only in the evenings on most days, so please keep that in mind. Thanks Ask yourself, would vanilla town worry about being on the lurker list? Perhaps he wasn't thinking clearly, but he also reacted with extreme hostility when I pointed this out. Also, my 'request' was just a notification to the third party that I work most days and can only post in the evenings, so there's only a ~6 hour span where I'm going to be posting things, no matter my alignment. Also, no matter my alignment I don't want to be on the lurker list for obvious reasons. Can you explain why you think this is scummy? He found it "extremely unlikely" that VE would bus his teammate and wanted to get some credit for voting to lynch Drazerk instead of VE. He volunteered to substitute into the game and has been too busy to play every day. He didn't switch from youngminii to Mr. wiggles despite the mad hatter claim and didn't even react to the claim despite being evidently lurking throughout that period. He posted immediately after the lynch. Note how close the vote was (5-4). To be fair, I think he really has been busy as he mafia team wouldn't be this incompetent if he was actively contributing. I think he is a top 3 vigi/lynch candidate. | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 14:57 GMT
#1420
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 15:18 GMT
#1423
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 15:51 GMT
#1426
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 16:31 GMT
#1429
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 16:53 GMT
#1431
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 17:56 GMT
#1440
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 17:57 GMT
#1441
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 18:16 GMT
#1443
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 20:08 GMT
#1445
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#1457
Having said that, I still think testing his vet claim is okay. | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 22:26 GMT
#1460
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 22:28 GMT
#1461
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 22:54 GMT
#1467
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 22:57 GMT
#1469
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 23:00 GMT
#1474
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#1479
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 08:54 GMT
#1496
Someone should do behavioural analysis of the people remaining and determine who is most likely to be a jerk who doesn't mind wasting everyone's time in an almost unwinnable game | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 09:08 GMT
#1498
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 13:44 GMT
#1504
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 13:55 GMT
#1508
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 15:53 GMT
#1513
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 16:07 GMT
#1516
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 16:41 GMT
#1519
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 16:41 GMT
#1520
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 16:46 GMT
#1521
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 16:53 GMT
#1524
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 20:01 GMT
#1534
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 20:15 GMT
#1539
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 21:17 GMT
#1549
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 21:22 GMT
#1552
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 21:22 GMT
#1553
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 21:26 GMT
#1558
On July 04 2011 06:26 Jackal58 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2011 06:22 syllogism wrote: That doesn't make sense, 3 of the people on that list are town So? We outnumber him 14 - 1 I meant Palmar's excuse for not agreeing with the plan doesn't make sense | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 23:23 GMT
#1584
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 03 2011 23:57 GMT
#1591
YM should be allowed to post his actions tomorrow no matter what, so if he gets sniped early, the flip should be delayed until his actions are in. | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 08:47 GMT
#1640
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 08:51 GMT
#1641
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 09:40 GMT
#1648
My lynch order was, before Jackal's plan, GGQ, Eiii, Jackal, Mig, Hyaach, Hiro, Cthsazsa | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 09:46 GMT
#1650
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 09:56 GMT
#1653
You pushing GM even this late into the game was a scum tell as Palmar pointed out | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 10:03 GMT
#1658
e: unfortunately this also applies to a lot of other good players | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 10:11 GMT
#1661
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 10:37 GMT
#1663
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 12:45 GMT
#1672
e: as for GGQ, I didn't realize there was a 50min gap between his post and the Wiggles lynch deadline, the announcement post was just late, so you weren't really lurking when youngminii claim occurred | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 14:13 GMT
#1678
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#1681
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 15:01 GMT
#1684
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
July 04 2011 21:22 GMT
#1707
I was actually actively fishing for a mafia shot early on, but that got derailed pretty quick. In my first game I didn't mention any blue roles at all as green and now I started doing pretty much the opposite. | ||
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