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On June 25 2011 11:57 aprudds wrote: What will happen if a vigilante or scum kills the lynch target close to the lynch? Also /in edited to fix color fail. the guy next in line gets lynched, and shitloads of us get modkilled if we don't switch to somebody else, I'd assume. Gotta be ready for random shit to happen. I'm really liking the lurker check idea, because lurking/inactive town are the bane of my Mafia existence. I for one will be making a list containing all the new players and known lurkers (hi Kenpachi) and will begin my campaign against them beginning on day 2. Lurkers have caused more town losses than mafia in my experiences. The compulsive vig should be a good way to deal with them too, because they've got unlimited hits, and they've gotta go somewhere. I'm really excited for this, hope I get to see it to the end. The lack of night should speed it up significantly. | ||
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Is he from another site that you recently started playing on? | ||
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On June 26 2011 19:23 Palmar wrote: /in I fear for our detectives....  Expect me to mix up Sinani201 and sinani206 often. I request that people do not refer to either of them as sinani, because that could get seriously confusing. | ||
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On June 28 2011 06:15 Sinani201 wrote: I read through the "Change My Name" topic and it looks like no one has gotten a fulfilled name change in a VERY long time. So I guess you guys can just pretend that my name is Nisani. Hopefully this starts soon, I'm really excited! Hot_Bid or some other mod usually does a sweeping change of all the names roughly once every month. I got the "s" at the end of my name decapitalized a while back (you still see people adding the capital "S" though, mostly the people i played my first few games with), so I know from experience that it'll eventually get done. Nisani it is then. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [on the subject of lurkers] + Kill them. When that list comes up day 2, give the lurkers 24 hours. If you don't see good activity, shoot on sight. It's a free bullet, use it. Hatters place your bombs immediately, they won't go off until you die anyways, so you can always change your mind later on. Frankly, I don't expect there to be any lurkers left by day 4 (day 3 if we're lucky)so dts shouldn't bother with lurkers. I'll be willing to discuss it more when the list comes on day 2. Until then, we should stop discussing it. It's not helping scumhunting, and it's spamming the thread with people saying "yes" and "no" and making shit up I'd like to start by laying down some groundrules. If you would be so kind, read the first day of TL mafia XXXIX or PTP mafia. In both games, day one was a clusterfuck that led to town deaths and created a poor environment for analysis and general sanity. I would like to avoid that, primarily by making some rules.
I'm not going to tolerate spamming. Anybody posting poorly will be thus informed, and if no improvement is made, I will ensure that you get lynched. Questions? | ||
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On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, chaos, he is a list: GMarshal youngminii Jackal58 ~OpZ~ Mr. Wiggles Kenpachi these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him. Why the fuck do you have Kenpachi on the "skilled vets" list? He doesn't do shit all game, so mafia never bothers to kill him until they've already killed everybody useful. This is a fact. Put him on the intermediate list, if anywhere. If the lurker list mechanic is targeting one specific person, it's Kenpachi. | ||
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On June 28 2011 13:37 Torqez wrote: Odd post. How does this help us who are new to TL anyway? Roles are all randomised. So given that there are some players with better analytical skills than others, we can expect to have some in town and some in mafia, obviously. Like someone else said, it's just painting targets though. Plus, with the Lurker List (this is new to me btw), everyone should be actively involved anyway with the way they see the game devloping. The concept here is that if the mafia have killed off the townies on the skilled veteran list and are now killing moderately skilled and semi-experienced players, the remainder of the skilled veterans are likely mafia. Unfortunately, now that he's announced it in the thread, it's all WifoM. This is like a zodiac list, but without the good parts. Find mafia through analysis, not coincidence. | ||
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On June 28 2011 13:46 youngminii wrote: Can you all seriously cut it out with those lists? BC's the one that used it in TL Mafia XLII and guess what, he was scum. They don't help town AT ALL and it just makes town talk about the most useless shit. Good one hiro, Varpulis, you're a GMarshal clone, your post is exactly like his opening post. I imagine there will be an epic power struggle between you two for the role of town leader, then once the game is over the winner of said power struggle will flip red. Go at it! I consider it a challenge. The prize is disappointing though. Trying to ensure good posting makes me the godfather, eh? Hopefully it all ends well, and the town thrives under the I'm going to bed. Tons of people haven't posted yet, and need to do so. If anybody tries to spam while i'm sleeping, please vig them. Emulating Bill Murray is not pro-town play. Anybody who does it is helping the mafia. Who helps the mafia? Scum. Fire away. That is all. | ||
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First off I'd like to say that the bandwagon on Henry VI is pretty damn weak. It amounts to a tiny little accusation and a shitload of bandwagoning. Dropbear, the argument "he hasn't done shit" equates to "he's lurking." We have other ways of dealing with lurkers, let's not use our lynches for them. GMarshal is also a terrible lynch. He's super active and he's trying to promote discussion. In addition, anybody saying "GMarshal and Henry VI are scum together because..." are trying WAAAY to hard to find scum when there isn't any. It's early in day 1, any connections that you see between players will be even less accurate than the scum reads. A post that stood out to me while I was reading through the thread: On June 29 2011 01:35 Drazerk wrote: From my experience the more unlikely something is the more likely it is to happen ... if that makes any sense at all Why not have both of them as mafia would be pretty easy to hide as "RL friends" This is nonsensical spam and random theorycrafting about the setup and role distributions. Big FoS. Oh, and I noticed that captain useless has arrived. Kenpachi, you are aware that there are mechanics in this game designed primarily to discourage and deal with lurkers, right? Either get contributing or get out. Your normal style of play is not acceptable. | ||
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His only post of content is a shitload of WifoM about GMarshal. On June 29 2011 02:38 gtrsrs wrote: okay good morning seattle read through everything, as to be expected it's just a bunch of day 1 bullshit well, it *was*, til i got to page ~14 here's what i noticed >GM trying to take charge of the town like a bauss >GM essentially forcing people to post how he wants them to post (i.e. there will be no more lists, etc) >more GM posts >some weak FoS's >TheAwesomeAll calls GM out for being contradictory >GM votes OMGUS on TAA >some scum try to cover the whole deal up with spam and bandwagons and false FoS >TAA tries to bring the discussion back onto GM and is ignored again so it seems to me that the mafia wants to keep GM alive. this could be for one of two reasons: 1. he's mafia, hyuk 2. his tyrannical posting has made him LOOK like mafia and they want to use him as a scapegoat if i were a role-having townie i execute my role on GM for sure alas i am not. and i don't really support a lynch on him til we can get more reads. he claims to be an good player so i will let him give me more time to back up this claim. but for now i have a mild FoS on GM. he feels like a good day 2/3 vote to me. also GM, something to note, putting ^_^ after every paragraph doesn't make you a townie just ftr unfortunately i must vote for someone. so i'm gonna put my vote on palmar like i said, the mafia covered up the attention on GM with some weak accusations and an attempted bandwagon. they even spelled it out for us. so with that in mind, ##vote: palmar To summarize: His interpretation of the game is "GMarshal does some stuff, gets accused, scum try to divert the ONE person who was accusing GMarshal. That's some of the weakest logic that I've ever seen, and on top of that he's quite vague. He doesn't point out the scum that he's referring to, he just says "hey there's scum in the game" Oh, and his vote goes on Palmar for absolutely no given reason. | ||
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His defense is really scummy imo, because it relies on undermining the credibility of the accuser instead of defending himself and trying to contribute. Time to turn up the heat. ##unvote gtrsrs ##vote syllogism Oh, and gtrsrs, I'm still watching you. Step it up please. | ||
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On June 29 2011 06:08 Cthsazsa wrote: + Show Spoiler + Notice: This post is based on the fact that I've only read up to page 15. I shall catch up after submitting this. What the Hell town?! All this discussion of whether vig's should kill lurker or not needs to end NOW. It was an okay topic-starter but discussion of it has gone on way too long. The mechanic of a free KP on lurkers is designed to DISCOURAGE LURKING. Why the hell would we not use it? If that game mechanic works correctly, then this should be a lurker-free game. Enforce the no-lurking rule with death and there wont be a lurking problem. No one is going to be lurking, so quit worrying about it. I don't know why the hell discussion of that took up at least +3 pages. It's useless discussion that EASILY allows scum to blend in and look like their contributing, while fattening up this thread. Come on vets, one of you guys should have noticed how useless that discussion was  um, the lurker discussion ended ages ago. You might want to catch up fully before yelling at people to stop doing something that they're no longer doing. Also, there are in fact some lurkers. (Hi Kenpachi) We're just not talking about them. We are instead discussing who to lynch. What do you think of syllogism? | ||
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@vain It's called pressure and testing people's reactions. I retract my statement that his role analysis was misguided and included misinformation though. I think i was misinterpreting. regarding chaos13: To be honest I think that your case in incredibly weak. He hasn't been posting fluff any more than the rest of us have. He's defending the person he thinks is town. The list thing is iffy but I see town motivations for it, especially because he didn't provide the list himself and tell us to follow it. | ||
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@Drazerk what the holy fuck are you doing? Martyring with almost 30 hours left in the day? I don't care if you've done it before, it's the worst possible thing a townie who's liable to be lynched could do. If you are town, prove it. Show us how town you are by contributing, analyzing, and weighing in on stuff so that if we do lynch you, we've got loads of information. Seriously bad attitude, step it up. @Edward I: people who have been spamming are being called scum for spamming, not because they are bringing up other scummy players. Hypocrisy and trying to divert attention are generally scum tactics. Didn't the town win in XLII? I co-hosted that. oh, and ##unvote syllogism He's no longer being pressured because he's not leading the lynch (I think), so my vote has no purpose. In retrospect, he's probably bored town. By the way, votes are really spread out right now. For the time being, it's ok, because most votes are (or should be) primarily pressure votes, with the exception of the bandwagons (syllogism, Drazerk). We're almost halfway through the day now, so we should move to consolidate the lynch into two or three major candidates, and encourage everybody to vote for one of them, and take a stance. Right now the only bandwagon that I'm at all comfortable with is the one on Drazerk. | ||
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On June 29 2011 11:18 Sinani201 wrote: Ingocnito was co-hosting XLII. Are you sure you're thinking of the right game? oops. I was thinking of XL. Lurkers lost the town for XLII, plain and simple. | ||
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On June 29 2011 11:56 chaos13 wrote: I'm beginning to agree about Drazerk, but there are a few questions I have regarding that: 1. How do we know he is just not noob town? Has he played much before? 2. Why is there no resistance to his lynch party? 3. If he is mafia, you would think his scumbuddies would be helping him improve his posting. 1. He has played two games, XLII and SNMM IV. In SNMM IV at least, he martyred every day. He should know by now that it's terrible play, especially if you look at how far it got him in SNMM IV (the town wasted loads of time arguing about whether or not to lynch him instead of doing productive things because he refused to fight the lynch, and instead said, repeatedly "I'll show you how wrong you were when I flip!" 2. Ask me again in 12 hours. 3. WifoM. "no scum would post this terribly" is a very poor argument. Especially when we're dealing with somebody with a town meta to give up as soon as he's pressured. There's a reason I fear the day when Kenpachi rolls mafia. | ||
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On June 29 2011 12:36 Palmar wrote: I'm not dropping my case against syllo because he asked a question about how to submit actions. That's stupid. He could just as well be a red that didn't realize he could ask his scumteam. He is at the moment the scummiest player in the game in my opinion. One of the things that sucks about it is the fact that Hiro agrees with me, but hiro promised us an analysis on syllo that still hasn't showed up. Also, VisceraEyes keeps promising to deliver something good, but has yet failed to do so. If you aren't going to contribute, stop saying you're going to contribute. Upon re-reading his big post about role analysis, I have to agree with sandroba. That post is very detrimental to the scumteam, because the guidelines and suggestions in it equate to strong blue play, in my opinion. Mafia would have no motivation to make a post like that, not even to gain town cred, because the risks outweigh the possible benefits. His play is very similar to his town play in XLII, iirc. (WifoM, I know, but something to take into account) Also, the bolded line is really not plausible. "He didn't realize that he could ask his scumteam?" Really? Frankly, you're trying to push a lost cause with poor logic and improbable situations at this point. What do you think about Drazerk? The case against him is stronger, and he has decided to fucking give up (I.e. not contribute so that nobody has anything to consider and make conclusions from except a fictional connection with GMarshal when/if he flips scum). Are you considering that evidence proving how town he is? | ||
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On June 29 2011 12:58 Palmar wrote: Whatever, if you guys insist on clearing people on STUFF THAT ISN'T IN THE GAME, I'm going to do the same. Syllo popped on IRC at some point today and asked "does GF always submit mafia kills when he is still alive?". This doesn't paint him scum, again, generally I'd assume the guy could ask his scum team, but I'm not eating up some bullshit excuse that he's probably blue. he has one stupid out-of-the-game thing going for him, and one against him. I'd rather that NEITHER were brought up as an issue, but since someone is using that to defend him, I'm going to use that to accuse him. I don't suppose that you have proof? I don't recall bringing up outside of game evidence. Asking questions in the thread is inside the game evidence. Posting about the setup, roles, and mechanics during the game is inside the game evidence. His meta is not, but that isn't my main point. I even admitted that it's WifoM. | ||
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On June 29 2011 13:08 Palmar wrote: yah, exactly, this is wifom. I can paste the IRC logs? But how about you look at the evidence at hand, the fact that he has posted almost exclusively blanket statements, the fact that he OMGUS'd me without the balls to put a vote on me with it, the fact that his defense relies on some analysis of mechanics that anyone wanting town credit could've done. I'd much rather you look at what I said in the post I voted against him and judged him on that. Bloody hell, you just don't stop, do you? Could you actually go read that big post about mechanics, and honestly tell me if you, as a mafia member, would post that just to gain town cred? I'll wager that I've read through syllogism's posts more than you have. I have concluded that he is town from those posts. Frankly, in my opinion it is wise to be patient in the early part of the game. Most analyses are weak, and most bandwagons terrible. Cautious != scummy, not in the first 24 hours. You also wave off all of his contributions to the discussion as blanket statements, thus invalidating any possible defense. It's enough for pressure, which is what I assumed it was, but not sufficient reason to lynch. There, I responded to your Now let's look through your posting history shall we? What do we find? A bunch of blanket statements about lurkers and lurking blues, meta (regarding sinani and DropBear), and then a lot of tunneling. Stop being a hypocrite please. | ||
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I'm off to bed. See you all tomorrow, unless I die in my sleep. | ||
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First things first: Palmar, stop calling yourself the brother protector and guide of the town, please. The more you try to call for authority the more suspicious i get. That said, I agree with your big post about how to play (win), and your lists. Second, on Drazerk: I'm glad to see that he's not given up completely yet. If I may make a suggestion, any compulsive vig that we've got should shoot him. If he's town, we get to lynch somebody else, with additional information from his flip, and if he's scum, it's a win-win situation. If you're a normal vig with one shot, keep it holstered, but if you need to shoot, there's your target. Third: On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote: You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you? This post is really bad, to the point of being scummy. "Don't listen to him, because he's leading the lynch, which means he's scum." Just taking note of that, for later reference. I'm going to look through the posts of VisceraEyes and Drazerk, and make my decision for who to lynch in a little bit. Stay tuned. | ||
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On June 30 2011 05:14 Varpulis wrote: This post is really bad, to the point of being scummy. "Don't listen to him, because he's leading the lynch, which means he's scum." Just taking note of that, for later reference. EBWOP: If Drazerk flips town, this is something to look at. If he's scum it's all cool, but it's still a terrible fluff post that looks like a contribution at first glance but isn't actually. | ||
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On June 30 2011 05:18 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...VIGILANTES, need to NOT be shooting. Omg. Town killing itself if exactly what the mafia wants. Compulsive vig should be discussed a little. But now is not the time for that. Night phase, or the day he starts being able to shoot. did you not read the piece about regular vig's not shooting? Compulsive vig's have to shoot. I think that Drazerk is a perfect person to take that shot. There is no night phase. Go read the setup, please. | ||
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Drazerk Why is he scum? 1. General safety of his posts. + Show Spoiler + I'm not going to quote examples of this, because it's subtle, but many of his posts are too reserved. One not-so-subtle example exists, however. On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote: How do I always get pinned as mafia within the first day... Do you really want me to start martyring again? left right and centre? Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive ) As for Hiro I did not get into the day until after he dropped off and am going to need to look at all of his posts again before I say anything. 2. Referencing past games to explain bad play. + Show Spoiler + He defends his conservative posting and his martyring by saying "I was town in those games, and I did the same thing." That is a WifoMy and scummy argument/defense, in my opinion. 3. Martyring. [/spoiler] VisceraEyes 1. He posts useless spam/fluff to appear to be contributing. + Show Spoiler + Examples: On June 28 2011 13:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I see both sides of making lists. The discussion it generates is a definite plus for town, if it's focused the right way. YM, you referenced the Zodiac List from XLII...what you didn't take into account was that after he posted the Zodiac List, BC didn't guide the discussion after it...making it bad for town. He used the fact that no one uses the list properly to his advantage. Had he been town, he likely would have guided discussion properly, and it likely would have been more of a help for town. There are a lot of likelies in that statement, and I'm well aware of it, tyvm. That's just my opinion. Conversely, when abused, the Zodiac Lists DO tend to clutter up the thread. goes nowhere On June 28 2011 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote: I enjoy how GMarshal included Palmar on the Vet list, yet his first game was my first game as well. Yes, he had a strong showing for Mafia that game...but in all honesty, scum won from an inactive town. I wonder what motivation GMarshal has putting a new player like Palmar (if you'd like to see an example of his 'stellar town play', may I direct you to PTP?) in the 'Vet' side of that list. He's certainly no vet as far as I'm concerned. arguing about nothing important at all On June 28 2011 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote: @GM At any rate, 201 is correct, Palmar DID /out before the game started. He'll either be Mod-killed or replaced before Day 2, I totally forgot. Aside from adding LSB to the vet list, which Wiggles already suggested, I have no problems with your list. :D NOW What do we do with it? We've pretty much unanimously decided that blues will be acting on their own with VERY limited guidance from the rest of town. Should we just go down the list and start asking people their opinions on each one? Or is that just something to look at once people start dying? useless On June 28 2011 15:42 VisceraEyes wrote: :O I go to do research to answer GM's question and I come back to this?!?! Real Time is going to be INSANITY. Vaccuous and fluffy. I think 201 is leading there with the 8-10 (exaggeration, but just barely) posts concerning his name. Yes, we get it. They're not the same people. I was also going to say LSB for talking about a plan to put people on the lurker list and then not following through...but.... references something that never comes, random tangent, very little actual content On June 28 2011 16:24 VisceraEyes wrote: stating the obvious. I mean, the thing is he's right in theory. They have to trade in their 1 DT check for their 2 lurker checks unless I'm mistaken. That's 1 less DT check town has in its arsenal, right? The list goes ever on, but i'm not going to keep quoting it 2. promising to post analysis, but never posting it. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 01:15 VisceraEyes wrote: Only 4 pages in 8 hours...not bad guys, but it seems we're caught up in a lot of mudslinging and tunneling, something I thought we as a town vowed not to do d1. Yes, we have to find a lynch target for today...but come on guys. Bring a case with SUBSTANCE. I know, I haven't done much in the way of scumhunting yet. You don't have to remind me. I'm working on a case as we speak. Just letting you know I'm awake and reading. Ciao! On June 29 2011 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote: It appears the main topic of discussion here is Dazek vs. Syllogism. In the name of keeping discussion down to a few candidates, I'm going to go ahead and read back through these two individuals' posts. Stay tuned! On June 29 2011 09:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I fail to see how you flipping green will prove ANYTHING about GM. You could just as easily be wrong about GM. However, if you flip RED, it's unlikely that GM is town...but I wouldn't lynch him based on that alone. Dealing in absolutes is very scummy to me. Just sayin. Back to reading. -.- Nothing came of this until he was called out for not delivering the promised content. 3. The promised content is just parroting what everybody else has been saying about Drazerk. 4. refusing to defend himself properly or at all Conclusion. Frankly, a lot of the reasons that Drazerk could be scum boil down to (very)poor play, whereas VisceraEyes is playing with scummy motives: join the easy bandwagons, pretend to contribute, don't stick your neck out without reason. Taking into account the weakness of the wagon on drazerk (people joined because he was the only wagon at the time), the lack of initial resistance, and the meta reads that have been omitted from my lists of reasons due to the air of WifoM surrounding them, I will be voting for VisceraEyes. ##vote VisceraEyes | ||
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GMarshal, what the hell are you talking about? Maybe in a closed setup like CCM, but here? I also love how the logic is taken from ace when he was scum. it's cool scum logic. Nobody listen to him please. ##unvote VisceraEyes ##vote Drazerk | ||
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On June 30 2011 13:06 GMarshal wrote: The lack of firepower aimed at me so far is disappointing. Its been 5 whole minutes and no one has shot me? maybe the vig's are all european, bro. Yo ROL, where's that lurker list? | ||
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On June 30 2011 13:27 sandroba wrote: Okay, check Varpulis. Vigs shoot Vain and DropBear. I hope you are here still viscera. I am being checked for voting for VisceraEyes before his claim, correct? What do you guys think of Lanaia's posting? It's giving me a weird feeling. Maybe I'm just overtired. With that, I'm off to bed. I'll see all you guys tomorrow, unless of course I die. That would be a major downer, and I'd have to relieve stress by trolling the players in Paranoid Mafia. I ask the mafia to let me live, for their sake. =P | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 13:01 Lanaia wrote: It feels weird to have FoS' this early in the game. Is it really that possible to get a read on anyone at this stage in the game? I mean, maybe that's how you roll, even with people whose metas and playstyles you don't know. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. It just seems strange that anyone can have a read they feel solid enough to place a FoS on at this stage in the game. On June 28 2011 13:07 Lanaia wrote: I'm actually legitimately confused when it comes to strategies involving the lurker list. Logically, I cannot fathom how one would be possible without outing everything we want to have kept hidden. Personally, I think it isn't a good idea and I will probably not take part in that, given it occurs. I am not good at planning and having a group planned with me. (Especially not with people I have never played with before) I find what RoL just posted very interesting. I am curious to see how this will work. On June 29 2011 04:12 Lanaia wrote: All right, so sorry I've been away since last night. Today has been busier than expected. The LSB kill doesn't entirely make sense to me, but I suppose yes, he was kind of obviously town. <rest of post snipped> On June 29 2011 05:02 Lanaia wrote: I just meant that from what I've seen of his play, I feel he is town. I tend to say things in the definite and not in the possible. I'm sorry. On June 29 2011 13:28 Lanaia wrote: Guys I really suck at posting in an aesthetically pleasing manner. I am very sorry for that. On June 30 2011 15:05 Lanaia wrote: I'm really sorry for my lack of activity in the past few hours. I promise you I will post in the morning. I've got the worst headache and my ears are all allergylike. I'm not sure about forum games, but is scum likely to bus? He's explaining away things that nobody is asking him about (activity) and apologizing for mistakes with almost every other post. He's buddying up with pro-town players (wiggles, Palmar) and agreeing with them to try to appear more town himself. I'm not confident that he's scum, but i'm quite suspicious at this point. | ||
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On July 01 2011 05:45 Jackal58 wrote: He is a she and I still think she made a scum slip regarding kenpachi on day 1. Duly noted. | ||
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On July 01 2011 06:46 supersoft wrote: Lanaia is quite cute :D If she were a dude I'd vote for her immediately with all the excuses all the time in every single post. wtf is this? Weakest fucking excuse ever. Ignore gender. Lanaia is a player in this game. She isn't cute for all of her excuses, she's scum trying to get on the good side of the town and stay under the radar. | ||
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gogogo win this one town! | ||
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On July 02 2011 12:58 Jackal58 wrote: Should be in 2 or 3 minutes [spectral voice]5 minutes ago works too.[/spectral voice] | ||
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On July 03 2011 00:51 syllogism wrote: Yes, your lurker bomb ruined our perfect record | ||
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Welcome, GGQ, to the twilight zone. + Show Spoiler + do do do do, do do do do | ||
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Varpulis
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In case anybody was wondering, I actually put a lot of thought into who i was going to place that lurker bomb on. I think i switched it one or two times on day two. It was on Eiii for a while, then I read through his posts and saw that he was putting in some effOrt, and decided that I was never going to be able to get a solid read on Kenpachi because he's Kenpachi. So I blew him up. Lanaia was a bad read though. I guess some people are just over apologetic. Did anybody actually guess that I was blue/a hatter, or was Viscera's whole "he's innocent but I won't say the role" motivated solely by a lack of knowledge of my actual role. From a town perspective, that statement made him look like he was trying to protect mafia from sniping me. (because he knew I was blue) Was it luck? I thought i did pretty well in playing like I normally do, but I think i gave myself away with my question about Lanaia. I turned it into an accusation later, but I think it showed that something was going on behind the scenes. I was basically asking "is it ok if I blow up Lanaia?" gg guys. gogogo real time insane mafia, maybe without the lurker lists. They give town significantly more kp than town should have. That said, this game was decided by luck and gosu vig shots. Poor mafia play factored in as well, I think, no offense to you guys. Allowing two mafia to be up for lynch day 1, and constantly bussing teammates were also conducive to town victoey. Thanks for hosting, ROL. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On July 05 2011 00:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: yeah, DT claims were pretty dumb because best case scenario you have a medic lurking the thread who has an active protection and just throws it on you. The more likely scenario is that one of the 6 mafia is around long enough to send in a hit command. DT claiming with the expectation of living is stupid. Medic's were definitely less useful in this set up, but at the same time so were roleblockers. I think I should figure out a way to rework that mechanic a bit. To be honest, I knew I stacked the town with KP, but figured the mafia would stay off the lurker list and the town would obliterate itself, which is why I hesitated in actually giving the additional lurker kills to mafia, and as an end result, didn't. The lurker list implementation was something I admit was a half baked idea, in case no one has played a game of mine before, I tend to do things designed to punish the town for things that pissed me off in the past. In XXXVII I designed the entire set up to punish blind claiming in PM's which lost the town the previous game because I wanted to force you guys to learn to use PM's properly. That was more or less a success. This didn't work out too well, but I also wanted more kill power and more deaths because I thought it would be funnier. I couldn't include a compulsive vig for balance purposes, because if he died too soon, or never died it could drastically change how the game played out. I'm not sure if the town's victory hinged on the lurker list, to be honest. The mafia got killed in three lynches, two normal vig shots, and a lurker bomb from a hatter. 1/6 due to the lurker mechanic. iirc, none of the vigs shot into the lurker list. the only kill due to it was my bomb on Kenpachi. The game wouldn't have been too drastically different without it, I think. (2 v 16 instead of 1 v 16, neither mafia have established town cred or thread presence, it's still a long shot for scum to have chance at victory) Unfortunately, the lurker list didn't quite work. There were still a bunch of lurkers (2 scum on the list as well), the difference being that we didn't get to an endgame where it would have mattered. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On July 05 2011 16:56 Lanaia wrote: GG everyone. Didn't realize it was over. I was a bit surprised by the bomb, but oh well! My bad. In my defense, I did ask everybody what they thought of you, but the only reply I got wasn't too convincing. At least you weren't blue If only my bomb was on Mig, then we'd have a clean sweep, no townies killed (excepting night kills) | ||
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