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On June 25 2011 11:57 aprudds wrote:
What will happen if a vigilante or scum kills the lynch target close to the lynch?
edited to fix color fail.
the guy next in line gets lynched, and shitloads of us get modkilled if we don't switch to somebody else, I'd assume. Gotta be ready for random shit to happen.
I'm really liking the lurker check idea, because lurking/inactive town are the bane of my Mafia existence. I for one will be making a list containing all the new players and known lurkers (hi Kenpachi) and will begin my campaign against them beginning on day 2. Lurkers have caused more town losses than mafia in my experiences.
The compulsive vig should be a good way to deal with them too, because they've got unlimited hits, and they've gotta go somewhere.
I'm really excited for this, hope I get to see it to the end. The lack of night should speed it up significantly.
On June 26 2011 02:31 chaos13 wrote:
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On June 26 2011 02:03 Lanaia wrote:
Oh, so this is where chaos13 is from. I knew he couldn't be 100% newb.
Is he from another site that you recently started playing on?
On June 26 2011 19:23 Palmar wrote:
I fear for our detectives....
Expect me to mix up Sinani201 and sinani206 often. I request that people do not refer to either of them as sinani, because that could get seriously confusing.
On June 28 2011 06:15 Sinani201 wrote:
I read through the "Change My Name" topic and it looks like no one has gotten a fulfilled name change in a VERY long time. So I guess you guys can just pretend that my name is Nisani.
Hopefully this starts soon, I'm really excited!
Hot_Bid or some other mod usually does a sweeping change of all the names roughly once every month. I got the "s" at the end of my name decapitalized a while back (you still see people adding the capital "S" though, mostly the people i played my first few games with), so I know from experience that it'll eventually get done.
Nisani it is then.
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Kill them. When that list comes up day 2, give the lurkers 24 hours. If you don't see good activity, shoot on sight. It's a free bullet, use it. Hatters place your bombs immediately, they won't go off until you die anyways, so you can always change your mind later on. Frankly, I don't expect there to be any lurkers left by day 4 (day 3 if we're lucky)so dts shouldn't bother with lurkers. I'll be willing to discuss it more when the list comes on day 2.
Until then, we should stop discussing it. It's not helping scumhunting, and it's spamming the thread with people saying "yes" and "no" and making shit up
I'd like to start by laying down some groundrules.
If you would be so kind, read the first day of TL mafia XXXIX or PTP mafia. In both games, day one was a clusterfuck that led to town deaths and created a poor environment for analysis and general sanity.
I would like to avoid that, primarily by making some rules.
I'm not going to tolerate spamming. Anybody posting poorly will be thus informed, and if no improvement is made, I will ensure that you get lynched. Questions?
On June 28 2011 13:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, chaos, he is a list:
these are the most skilled/vets players in this game. Fun fact: GMarshal has never been lynched as town. Another fun fact: Mr. Wiggles has been mafia the last 2 games I played with him.
Why the fuck do you have Kenpachi on the "skilled vets" list? He doesn't do shit all game, so mafia never bothers to kill him until they've already killed everybody useful. This is a fact. Put him on the intermediate list, if anywhere.
If the lurker list mechanic is targeting one specific person, it's Kenpachi.
On June 28 2011 13:37 Torqez wrote:
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On June 28 2011 13:22 chaos13 wrote:
Would somebody mind assembling a list of the skilled/veteran players for myself and the others who are not familiar with all the names in the roster? A 'priority list', if you will, of players mafia are likely to kill first.
Odd post. How does this help us who are new to TL anyway? Roles are all randomised. So given that there are some players with better analytical skills than others, we can expect to have some in town and some in mafia, obviously.
Like someone else said, it's just painting targets though. Plus, with the Lurker List (this is new to me btw), everyone should be actively involved anyway with the way they see the game devloping.
The concept here is that if the mafia have killed off the townies on the skilled veteran list and are now killing moderately skilled and semi-experienced players, the remainder of the skilled veterans are likely mafia.
Unfortunately, now that he's announced it in the thread, it's all WifoM. This is like a zodiac list, but without the good parts. Find mafia through analysis, not coincidence.
On June 28 2011 13:46 youngminii wrote:
Can you all seriously cut it out with those lists? BC's the one that used it in TL Mafia XLII and guess what, he was scum. They don't help town AT ALL and it just makes town talk about the most useless shit.
Good one hiro,
Varpulis, you're a GMarshal clone, your post is exactly like his opening post. I imagine there will be an epic power struggle between you two for the role of town leader, then once the game is over the winner of said power struggle will flip red. Go at it!
I consider it a challenge. The prize is disappointing though. Trying to ensure good posting makes me the godfather, eh?
Hopefully it all ends well, and the town thrives under the
I'm going to bed. Tons of people haven't posted yet, and need to do so. If anybody tries to spam while i'm sleeping, please vig them. Emulating Bill Murray is not pro-town play. Anybody who does it is helping the mafia. Who helps the mafia? Scum. Fire away.
That is all.
First off I'd like to say that the bandwagon on Henry VI is pretty damn weak. It amounts to a tiny little accusation and a shitload of bandwagoning. Dropbear, the argument "he hasn't done shit" equates to "he's lurking." We have other ways of dealing with lurkers, let's not use our lynches for them.
GMarshal is also a terrible lynch. He's super active and he's trying to promote discussion. In addition, anybody saying "GMarshal and Henry VI are scum together because..." are trying WAAAY to hard to find scum when there isn't any. It's early in day 1, any connections that you see between players will be even less accurate than the scum reads.
A post that stood out to me while I was reading through the thread:
On June 29 2011 01:35 Drazerk wrote:
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On June 29 2011 01:28 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote:
On June 28 2011 22:10 Palmar wrote:
only problem with lynching sinani206 is that the last game I played with him his combo was:
a) post fluff, lists and useless shit
b) claim veteran
c) get lynched.
It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway.
But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing.
Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game )
Do you really think they are both scum? seems a bit unlikely doesnt it?
From my experience the more unlikely something is the more likely it is to happen ... if that makes any sense at all
Why not have both of them as mafia would be pretty easy to hide as "RL friends"
This is nonsensical spam and random theorycrafting about the setup and role distributions. Big FoS.
Oh, and I noticed that captain useless has arrived. Kenpachi, you are aware that there are mechanics in this game designed primarily to discourage and deal with lurkers, right? Either get contributing or get out. Your normal style of play is not acceptable.
His only post of content is a shitload of WifoM about GMarshal.
On June 29 2011 02:38 gtrsrs wrote:
okay good morning seattle
read through everything, as to be expected it's just a bunch of day 1 bullshit
well, it *was*, til i got to page ~14
here's what i noticed
>GM trying to take charge of the town like a bauss
>GM essentially forcing people to post how he wants them to post (i.e. there will be no more lists, etc)
>more GM posts
>some weak FoS's
>TheAwesomeAll calls GM out for being contradictory
>GM votes OMGUS on TAA
>some scum try to cover the whole deal up with spam and bandwagons and false FoS
>TAA tries to bring the discussion back onto GM and is ignored again
so it seems to me that the mafia wants to keep GM alive. this could be for one of two reasons:
1. he's mafia, hyuk
2. his tyrannical posting has made him LOOK like mafia and they want to use him as a scapegoat
if i were a role-having townie i execute my role on GM for sure
alas i am not. and i don't really support a lynch on him til we can get more reads. he claims to be an good player so i will let him give me more time to back up this claim. but for now i have a mild FoS on GM. he feels like a good day 2/3 vote to me. also GM, something to note, putting ^_^ after every paragraph doesn't make you a townie just ftr
unfortunately i must vote for someone. so i'm gonna put my vote on palmar
like i said, the mafia covered up the attention on GM with some weak accusations and an attempted bandwagon. they even spelled it out for us. so with that in mind,
To summarize: His interpretation of the game is "GMarshal does some stuff, gets accused, scum try to divert the ONE person who was accusing GMarshal. That's some of the weakest logic that I've ever seen, and on top of that he's quite vague. He doesn't point out the scum that he's referring to, he just says "hey there's scum in the game"
Oh, and his vote goes on Palmar for absolutely no given reason.
His defense is really scummy imo, because it relies on undermining the credibility of the accuser instead of defending himself and trying to contribute.
Time to turn up the heat.
Oh, and gtrsrs, I'm still watching you. Step it up please.
On June 29 2011 06:08 Cthsazsa wrote:
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Notice: This post is based on the fact that I've only read up to page 15. I shall catch up after submitting this.
What the Hell town?!
All this discussion of whether vig's should kill lurker or not needs to end NOW. It was an okay topic-starter but discussion of it has gone on way too long.
The mechanic of a free KP on lurkers is designed to DISCOURAGE LURKING. Why the hell would we not use it? If that game mechanic works correctly, then this should be a lurker-free game. Enforce the no-lurking rule with death and there wont be a lurking problem.
No one is going to be lurking, so quit worrying about it.
I don't know why the hell discussion of that took up at least +3 pages. It's useless discussion that EASILY allows scum to blend in and look like their contributing, while fattening up this thread. Come on vets, one of you guys should have noticed how useless that discussion was
um, the lurker discussion ended ages ago. You might want to catch up fully before yelling at people to stop doing something that they're no longer doing.
Also, there are in fact some lurkers. (Hi Kenpachi) We're just not talking about them. We are instead discussing who to lynch.
What do you think of syllogism?
@vain It's called pressure and testing people's reactions. I retract my statement that his role analysis was misguided and included misinformation though. I think i was misinterpreting.
regarding chaos13: To be honest I think that your case in incredibly weak. He hasn't been posting fluff any more than the rest of us have. He's defending the person he thinks is town. The list thing is iffy but I see town motivations for it, especially because he didn't provide the list himself and tell us to follow it.
@Drazerk what the holy fuck are you doing? Martyring with almost 30 hours left in the day? I don't care if you've done it before, it's the worst possible thing a townie who's liable to be lynched could do. If you are town, prove it. Show us how town you are by contributing, analyzing, and weighing in on stuff so that if we do lynch you, we've got loads of information.
Seriously bad attitude, step it up.
@Edward I: people who have been spamming are being called scum for spamming, not because they are bringing up other scummy players. Hypocrisy and trying to divert attention are generally scum tactics. Didn't the town win in XLII? I co-hosted that.
oh, and ##unvote syllogism He's no longer being pressured because he's not leading the lynch (I think), so my vote has no purpose. In retrospect, he's probably bored town.
By the way, votes are really spread out right now. For the time being, it's ok, because most votes are (or should be) primarily pressure votes, with the exception of the bandwagons (syllogism, Drazerk).
We're almost halfway through the day now, so we should move to consolidate the lynch into two or three major candidates, and encourage everybody to vote for one of them, and take a stance. Right now the only bandwagon that I'm at all comfortable with is the one on Drazerk.