Closed Casket Mafia - Page 3

On July 03 2011 08:37 ilovejonn wrote:

I'm going to confirm this claim to be true. LSB is not scum, nor am I. The plan I had today since we lynched RoL, was to check his dead body to confirm if Fishball was actually Cop or not, thus confirming him and myself as town. However, my plan wasn't really necessary as it seems like someone could reveal roles on Day posts, and I also did not expect THREE kills.

I am the Forensic Scientist, basically I can check the roles of dead people. Why am I so sure LSB isn't lying? Because he said he mimic'd RoL checking a dead body. I had investigated deconduo's body and he revealed to be a Vigilante. I also found out on that same check that Scamp's body was missing. RoL's dead body check returned as Mafia Janitor and not mafia Coroner. I was confused as to why Scamp's body was missing, but if my speculations are correct, RoL's role can clean up dead bodies therefore not allowing people like me to check them. I also checked GGQ on Night 0, he returned Busy Paramedic and town aligned. The only people I haven't checked are GMarshal, and Scamp. But I know there are more coroner's left.

Caller has kept on saying Fishball and BC are scum, and then they died. Obviously he is trying to justify his kills just by repeatedly saying they are scum and he was certain since it's no flip that he'll be safe. But as we can see Fish and BC didn't flip scum. My vote is going to be on Caller today.

##Vote: Caller

On July 09 2011 19:43 Palmar wrote:
good writeup kurumi, I agree with most of it.

The mistake was ultimately mine, I simply did not have the balls to make an independent decision.

Can we get a link to the mafia QT?

There are some things that I really, really had a problem with though. My big mistakes were getting caught up in a useless argument with VisceraEyes on day one, and then obviously the end-game. But here are a few that really had a detrimental effect on town.

a) BC's claim. The idea was novel, I really like the fact that his read on Fishball was so strong that he was willing to lie to confirm him. But man... when you lie as town, you better make damn fucking sure that you cannot get caught, cause that's when the shitstorm happens. I learned this lesson in PTP.

b) Caller's trolling and repeated lying. Sure, I can get the idea behind claiming one-shot vigilante in order to avoid roleblocks, but why the hell did you not just say "sorry, my bad" after killing BC. I'm almost sure that you'd have gotten away with it. Everyone knew then that BC had been lying, even if it was for the good of town. So we basically wasted a lynch because you felt the need to lie again.

c) Kurumi/ILJ/Chezinu. All of those guys did very little to establish their innocence, at least in my opinion. Instead of trolling and throwing one-liners, then I'd really appreciate it if people would attempt to look pro-town. I wasted effort going after Kurumi, and Chezinu got cleared by a confirmed innocent, and he STILL got lynched, only based on the fact that he was scummy as hell anyway. ILJ was just... not beneficial to town. If JeeJee had been playing from the start we'd have rocked this game, easily, but ILJ did nothing to show he was innocent early on.

VE/Deconduo got themselves modkilled. That was pretty stupid.

Anyway, I agree with everything you said except the conclusion Kurumi. Town had at least a very reasonable chance to win this game. We fucked up repeatedly and didn't make any massive game-changing plays really. Yes, the mafia didn't have to do much to achieve the win, but at least citi.zen's claim was well thought out. Kudos to Sandroba for that... I told you he was a good player not playing to his standard

Any number of things could've turned this into the town's favor, we just kept fucking up.

a) Caller simply claiming the kill on BC
b) VisceraEyes not getting himself modkilled (I was 100% sure on him being town)
c) Me not fucking up the end-game
d) Chezinu actually put effort into proving his innocence
e) ILJ doing the same, or JeeJee having played from much earlier
f) ILJ not screwing up his roleclaim
g) BC not lying to confirm Fishball

I think even just one of those things would've turned the game into town's favour.

On July 11 2011 06:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



The game maybe wasn't necessary, but It was a hope to set myself up as a target for a mafia hit before caller. Also, as horrible as it sounds, almost everyone was trolling at the point I fake claimed and honestly the only way to really get discussion going I figured was to do something insanely outlandish.