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how many games do we need to be considered not a newbie? | ||
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On June 17 2011 06:33 Drazerk wrote: Oh but a townie does have reasons to ask such a question. Don't take my SC2 Mafia as lack of experience, I was able to deduce roles within the 50seconds given. :D What reason does a townie have to ask such a question? | ||
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On June 18 2011 04:01 freeloader625 wrote: Just for clarification because all my life I've been confused on this... EDT is eastern. I am eastern. But sometimes ppl write (-04:00) but whenever I fill out forms and crap eastern is always (-05:00). WHAT IS GOING ON!?!? EDT is Eastern Daylight Time, its -4:00 EST is Eastern Standard Time, its -5:00 Daylight Savings Time Strikes Again! | ||
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I think we can safely ignore the possibility of the set-up being the roleblocker, 2 goons, 9 townies, because that would be stupid. | ||
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I missed that the mafia KP was fixed, that does changes the math a little. I still think the DT should claim once he hits a single red (if we have one, which isn't guaranteed). Otherwise we run the risk of him seeing a red and then getting killed. The DT is almost certainly not going to give us more than 1 mafia this game anyways (he'll either get killed or RB'd, yes) so I don't see why it matters if he gives us the second or third one. Also finding our first mafia as early as possible will really help to lead us to the others. | ||
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On June 18 2011 06:38 omgCRAZY wrote: We should get everyone talking as soon as possible and get some discussion going so we can weed out the lurkers and get a good lynch for day 1. I also agree that the DT should not out himself right away unless the benefits are game changing. Does anyone know if the DT checks the role blocker will it return goon or roleblocker for him. If it returns roleblocker I would not mind the DT outing at that point since we will know 100% that we have 1 medic and 1 DT and the medic can keep the DT safe. From the OP it seems he only returns alignment, not role. | ||
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Another note - figuring out the set-up does give us something to talk about but its not terribly important in the long run, lets not fixate on something that doesn't really matter. | ||
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On June 18 2011 08:16 supersoft wrote: Dt sees the color of the checked player. and I think DT should never roleclaim asap. it's much better to give some hints by "analyzing" players if he found someone. when he got two mafia, I agree he should probably roleclaim. but since we don't know whether there is a medic, it would be bad if we lose our only blue in exchange to one mafia. It wouldn't be bad at all. DT is good because they let us know where the mafia is. If they aren't doing that then they are useless. We don't score points at the end for how many blues are alive or something. DT claiming as soon as they hit red helps us by a. giving us a verified lynch (either the person accused or the person who claimed DT must be mafia with no miller/framer/whatever) and killing 1/3 of the mafia b. preventing a possible mislynch (any lynch based on posting is less accurate then one based on DT check) c. it also gives us information to find the other mafia members from the vote list, posting, etc. | ||
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Drazerk is posting a lot but not contributing, which is worse. I'm gonna back up Pyo and ##Vote: Drazerk but mostly just to pressure him into actually saying something. If Vatti gets himself modkilled I'm gonna be so depressed. | ||
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Lord Vatti hasn't posted but Drazerk hasn't posted with any content (list of inactives, yeah!). My vote stays on Drazerk until he does. | ||
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However a. there's still time for LV to pop up and NOT get modkilled b. there's still time for a semi-decent case against someone to be established. I'm still leaving my vote on Drazerk until he posts something with substance (or a better case arrives). | ||
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On June 19 2011 13:14 aprudds wrote: You realize with this mindset we are just going to be waiting till the dawn of time. Your going to "wait" for a better case to come? What you think scum are just going to barge in and yell HERE I AM COME AND GET ME? As opposed to your path which is "its day one and there's obviously enough evidence for me to be 100% certain xyz is scum"? Waiting to see what people say when they post more is prudent. And if they don't post anything then that tells us something too. Also, your case against Alderan? Shitty. | ||
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@aprudds: sorry, I don't mean to be passive. Partly I'm just a little uncertain considering how absolutely wrong I was about everything last game. I actually agree with you that we should lynch whomever seems most suspicious, not go after L.V. for being inactive. But I think we have around 12 hours for people to post and possibly slip up. No, people won't shout "I am mafia" but they may contradict themselves or make spurious arguments. | ||
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Second, I'm also suspicious of gtrsrs for rather similar reasons. Something to add though is about this post: + Show Spoiler + On June 19 2011 10:07 gtrsrs wrote: okay i know i'm going to regret this if Drazerk flips scum but i think the logical thing to do for now is to remove your votes from Drazerk in my earlier post i said i was leaning to someone, and that person is Drazerk, but the point remains that Lord Vatti is suspiciously MIA. here's what potentially could happen: 1. Lord Vatti is townie without a role, saw that he didn't have a role, and afk'd out of the game. he will be modkilled. he could even be mafia but i doubt it. 2. the town votes for Drazerk on what can only be described as moderate-at-best suspicions. 2a. Drazerk flips townie. we're now down 2 townies and 0 mafia. it's as if 2 nights have passed (via 2 mafia kills) but we'll only have the info from 1 night's worth of night actions (if we even *have* any blues). 2b. Drazerk flips mafia. our hunches were correct. high five town. 2c. Drazerk flips power role. oh shit, his increased activity was because he's got a more prominent role. fuck our lives. 3. the town votes for Lord Vatti. since he was queued up to be modkilled, we lose nothing, and get a free night of investigations, potential saves, both, or neither. so with all that in mind, and noting that i'm NOT defending Drazerk (for he is my FoS at the moment, but it is an extremely weak FoS), i still think we should pile the votes onto Lord Vatti instead. best case scenario we kill an afk mafia. worst case scenario we lose a townie that we would have lost anyways. if we keep our votes on drazerk, the worst-case goes up to losing 2 townies. so with that in mind, i think that until Lord Vatti shows up to contribute, no matter how big of a hunch/suspicion we have of Drazerk, we should not vote him until we're all present. once Lord Vatti shows up i'm all for pressuring Drazerk, i just don't want to lose 2 townies on day 1 He makes a decent argument but it seems very uncharacteristic.... he says that he was leaning to Drazerk being on the scummy side. But, remember last game? gtrsrs was suspicious of iGrok from the get-go. And he tunnelled him mercilessly, and was very forward about his suspicions. But here he's saying "I've been suspicious of Drazerk but I wasn't going to say anything" which is extremely unlike how he played last game. Also, he's suspicious of him but he's not going to vote him? That, again, seems unlike gtrsrs' play last game. There is a decent case that gtrsrs and Drazerk are both mafia, as freeloader put forward. HOWEVER. The case is by no means 100%. Both could quite easily be green. Or, one could be town and the other mafia. That considered, gtrsrs is a much better townie than Drazerk. If they ARE both green than I'd much rather lose Drazerk than gtrsrs. Also, it seems slightly more likely (to me, anyways) that Draz is mafia while gtrsrs is town, rather than vice versa. My vote is already on Drazerk, originally only to pressure him into speaking substantively. It's gotten quite close to the deadline and he hasn't. So, I think that we should lynch Drazerk today, and see from there. Especially, freeloader, I think that you should change your vote from gtrsrs - if Draz flips red, than we can target gtrsrs (though if he flips green it doesn't mean that gtrsrs is definitely in the clear). | ||
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WTF I seriously have no idea what's going on. | ||
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##Vote: gtrsrs Looking pretty damn scummy, bro. Don't worry, I don't hold the "you're alll idiots" against you, you're just saying that to make us doubt ourselves. | ||
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On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote: ##Unvote: gtrsrs ##Vote: aprudds Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit Cause this is a totally bullshit thing to say/do... | ||
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On June 20 2011 04:58 gtrsrs wrote: surprise surprise, the king of misreads strikes out again ![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/2n8dm6e.gif) LOLOL. But, what the hell can I do, right? | ||
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gtrsrs is screwing with you, town aprudds is TOWN. gtrsrs just wants you to doubt yourselves. Also Drazerk is also mafia. This is so stupid. | ||
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Town would never do that. | ||
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On June 20 2011 06:13 gtrsrs wrote: sucks i tried so hard to save you bro On June 20 2011 05:08 gtrsrs wrote: Xedat, Drazerk, and aprudds will not change their votes (the first two because they are definitely scum, and the third because he wants to be like daddy. freeloader might show up at the last second like he usually does, but my hopes aren't high. even if he does show up i doubt he'll see the error in his ways, or have time to muck through all the drazerk/aprudds spam to see the reason. so that's 4 votes on me for sure. Pyo, Treadmill, i think you're both reasonable. i want you to re-evaluate your votes. re-read my defenses and my attempts to lead us in the right direction SEVERAL times throughout the thread. decide if it's really worth it to lynch someone who's intelligent and analytical AND HAS CLAIMED MEDIC or if you'd rather keep Mr. I'm a self-proclaimed idiot drazerk and Mr. I have a hard time with simple grammatical rules aprudds. cjrninja changing his vote is contingent on if he's mafia or not. if he's mafia he's got no reason to change his vote. if he's town, he should at least consider it, and through his considerations he should see that i am the wrong vote. if he's mafia there's 5 votes on me for sure. alderan i have no fear will see the light and not vote against me. so, the game is on Pyo and Treadmill (and potentially cjrninja if he's town). are you guys gonna change your votes? looks like the new bandwagon is off Drazerk for some reason and onto aprudds, but i gotta do what i can to stay alive :s ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: aprudds Seriously.... Also: On June 20 2011 06:18 gtrsrs wrote: i obviously won't here's why the mafia bandwagoned off of me: they have a roleblocker who they will apply to me. if they didn't have the roleblocker they would have kept their votes on me. but just like i pointed out earlier, a claimed blue is a worthless blue. luckily, that means that we have this set-up: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective so the detective will be free to get accurate reports as long as i'm locked up by the hooker. not that we should need them though. we have 2 mafia in the bag, we only need to find the third. Explaining, already, why he isn't gonna get murdered tonight. gtrsrs is scum. Drazerk is scum. Do I really need to explain why? Oh, probably, I guess. I'll start working on a post now, get it out before the night post in case I get stabbed (probably not, but who knows). | ||
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you guys are so obvious | ||
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If we miss on 2 more lynches we lose flat out. Town is at 7 to mafia's 3, so +4 If we hit mafia, they kill a townie so still +4 If we hit town then mafia also kills town and we're down to +2 With 2 mislynches we're at even with mafia ie. we lose. Just something to point out. So, Lord Vatti, fuck that guy. Rereading the thread to figure out what's going on. Will post when finished. | ||
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On June 20 2011 13:31 Varpulis wrote: Could you please keep it civil? There's no need for that. Sorry, you're right. Rather pissed off about the modkill especially considering how much the modkills screwed us up last game, but you're right. Can I have permission to edit that out? | ||
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On June 21 2011 08:47 Drazerk wrote: That is just confusing me now Mafia are either retarded Or they have no role blocker and Alderan wants us to believe there is one We will see after night 2 I guess Or gtrsrs and you are both scum. | ||
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On June 21 2011 09:02 Drazerk wrote: And to be honest the amount of arguments and hate we have for one another - Why would both of us be scum? Its either none or 1-1 Nonsense. You two have been very loudly disagreeing but your actions have been hand in hand. This is exactly what you're trying to get us to believe, so that when one of you flips mafia we won't possibly go after the other. | ||
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gtrsrs has basically been trying to run the game, and have the town not get anywhere. Day one targetting Lord Vatti, which accomplishes nothing for town. Then getting people to bandwagon aprudds when he was one of the least scummy players in the game. And then he switched his vote at the last minute, when aprudds had enough votes to get lynched anyways, and tried to deny going after aprudds. He also derailed teh town when there was pretty good case against Drazerk, and defended Drazerk - and then denied defending Drazerk. He's also been targetting and tunnelling Xedat and pretty much ignoring everything else. And last his flame-war with Drazerk has been just a massive amount of spam and nonsense that does nothing for town. | ||
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The vote count so far, as I see it: gtrsrs Pyo Treadmill Xedat Xedat supersoft Drazerk gtrsrs Drazerk freeloader625 Yet to vote: Alderan CjrNinja Please, if you're town, post more - especially Alderan and CjrNinja. Also, ignore gtrsrs and Drazerk, they're trying to shut down any conversation because they're scum. | ||
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@CjrNinja, you're right, gtrsrs didn't call for people to bandwagon aprudds, I misinterpreted that - he did, however, vote for him. I was wrong about that. I'm starting to have some doubts about gtrsrs being mafia but his posting in general has been so anti-town that I'm having trouble seeing him as innocent. | ||
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On June 23 2011 06:16 Drazerk wrote: Since we all know your going to lynch me tomorrow I am going to throw my predictions around This is nothing more than me guessing as town is dead at this point 6. Alderan 8. supersoft 12. freeloader625 Are Mafia but I doubt they have a role blocker (alderan is lying) 4. gtrsrs is probably a blue role 9. Pyo 7. CjrNinja 2. Treadmill Are Vannila townies As for me you will find out soon enough Wow. Just wow. You know that if you're town, and we lynch you, town loses right? Of course you do. But you aren't town, so the point is moot. Still, mafia seems to be depending on us once again following gtrsrs' orders and I'm not gonna bite. We need to kill gtrsrs tomorrow. Then Drazerk. And then hope that we can figure out number three. And if we're wrong once we lose. Yay town.  | ||
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On June 23 2011 07:12 Drazerk wrote: This is pretty much the case we are playing game mode 3 so no detective = no way to determine who the mafia are as everyone suspects one another Nothing me / gtrsrs do will convince you other whys The town has fallen GG Mafia Well played And heyl,look! Drazerk is once again playing along! | ||
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On June 23 2011 07:22 Pyo wrote: The game isn't over yet. Give me a sec. I think that there is still a winning strategy for town. Of course there is. We lynch gtrsrs, then we lynch Drazerk, then we figure out who the third mafioso is and lynch him. It's only gtrsrs and Draz that're trying to get town to give up and gg out. | ||
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On June 23 2011 07:53 Alderan wrote: Isn't there a word for someone that "stops playing a long" with town, and does nothing but create bandwagons that have CONSISTENTLY misslynched, and then come immediately back into the game to suggest who else is "definitely" scum?........... Fortunately there is no way you live the next day cycle, unfortunately the town has followed you blindly into oblivion. I urge everyone to stay active in this game, it is certainly not over, we just have to be on the "A" game. The only other person that has voted for both the miss-lynches is Supersoft. Considering that the votes were so close, and that all 3 scum most likely didn't stack on the same person I consider both as mafia. I've been suspicious of supersoft too, but I think we should leave targetting the third guy until we've lynched gtrsrs and Drazerk. That gives us two more rounds to see how people post/vote/etc. Also if we're wrong about one of those two (I don't think we are but we can always be wrong) the game's over so it doesn't really matter. Mainly I don't want to start looking for mafia #3 because I want to give them a little bit of rope so that they hopefully hang themselves. | ||
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On June 23 2011 09:31 CjrNinja wrote: Sorry Xedat T.T However, there is still hope! Now that Pyo has claimed, we can figure out who the mafia are with good old process of elimination. Pyo and Gtrsrs are blue. Freeloader got checked by Pyo was told green. Alderan is telling the truth about his roleblock, and I'm the final vanilla townie! Pyo Gtrsrs Freeloader Alderan CjrNinja Which leaves three people. Supersoft Treadmill Drazerk This is assuming both Pyo and gtrsrs are telling the truth. If not, then i gg lol. Except gtrsrs is lying. I really don't know what else to say about him at this point. | ||
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On June 23 2011 09:59 CjrNinja wrote: Ok then, just for you, lets entertain the notion that gtrsrs is lying. (The real medic would have counterclaimed by now so we can say that setup 4 is in play for this scenario) Pyo is telling the truth. Pyo Freeloader Myself Treadmill Supersoft gtrsrs lied about medic Alderan lied about being roleblocked. drazerk How does that look to you? I don't think that your assumption is necessarily correct. So, if there is a medic who isn't gtrsrs please claim. Because things are getting pretty stupid. [btw the problem with your initial reasoning is that you could literally sub any of me, Draz, or supersoft out for you and still hold - supersoft could claim, well, pyo and gtrsrs are blue, alderan and fl are green, I'm green, so Draz, Treadmill, and Cjr must be the mafia.] Honestly I'm not too worried about the he said - she said, cause pretty much anything can come from a mafia or a town perspective (Alderan could be claiming role-block because he's town and he was, or because he's mafia and he knows there isn't one, or because he's mafia and he knows there is a role-blocker but nobody got role-blocked). I trust Pyo because he's been playing fairly pro-town, and town is so close to losing that I have to have some trust. I don't trust gtrsrs because he's been playing extremely anti-town. So I really think that he's mafia because of this. | ||
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Pretty clear now that he's lying. I'm glad gtrsrs is dead, even if he was the medic. It clears a lot of things up. Votes do have to be unanimous now anyways. | ||
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On June 24 2011 06:51 Drazerk wrote: Basically for this one day Alderan is a higher priority than me So put the fingers down and trust me We have a lot of evidence pointing to him being scum and we must all vote for him Mafia will be saying a lot of things in the next day as they screwed up last night, We must keep the focus on Alderan Drazerk, please stop martyring. You have around 30 posts or so in this thread saying "oh, town is just gonna lynch me". They don't help town and only make you look scummier. | ||
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On June 27 2011 15:08 freeloader625 wrote: Shhh... do you hear the crickets? What started off started off as pages full of spam and back and forths' is now reduced to a dead game? And think this really did it for me. Alderan went out of his way to distance, "fearless leader Drazerk" in his final post has me convinced you are scum. What really intrigues me is how you managed to stay out of being lynched for so long when you're obviously scum The cases have been made, the evidence has been presented, your distracting/confusing actions/posts were there.. yet it seemed we lynched everyone but the obvious. I have nothing more to say. ##vote: Drazerk The posting dried up because gtrsrs died  Hmmm. At this point I've actually become relatively convinced of Drazerk's innocence. 1. Mafia knew that gtrsrs was definitely medic, we didn't. Drazerk defended gtrsrs quite a bit day two when a lynch on him would've been obviously in the mafia's favour, also when defending him would make himself MORE suspicious. 2. Draz has gone out of his way to draw attention to himself and to be suspicious, which mafia would not do. 3. Draz was attacking Alderan on day one when nobody else was and there was no reason to start busing / WIFOM'ing. 4. Pyo is smarter than me and he fingered supersoft not Drazerk. Going by the reasoning that one of those two is mafia, from Alderan's confused bussing, I think that supersoft is a much better target today (especially considering that Alderan draws much more attention to Drazerk than supersoft, which to me says Draz is the fake bus and supersoft is mafia). Ignoring Alderan's confusing post supersoft seems much more scummy than anyone else. So, ##vote: supersoft I'd encourage the other two townies to do the same. We need town consensus today again. Given that I will change my vote later on this turn if the voting starts to get dirty. | ||
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On June 27 2011 17:09 Drazerk wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 27 2011 15:08 freeloader625 wrote: Shhh... do you hear the crickets? What started off started off as pages full of spam and back and forths' is now reduced to a dead game? And think this really did it for me. Alderan went out of his way to distance, "fearless leader Drazerk" in his final post has me convinced you are scum. What really intrigues me is how you managed to stay out of being lynched for so long when you're obviously scum The cases have been made, the evidence has been presented, your distracting/confusing actions/posts were there.. yet it seemed we lynched everyone but the obvious. I have nothing more to say. ##vote: Drazerk + Show Spoiler + On June 24 2011 07:00 Pyo wrote: See this is a huge problem with newbie players. You can't explain the trap and have it work. Hold your f**king tongue (or keyboard). Rather than being quick to point everything out as you see it as soon as you see it, think about what you are doing and what it means. Then after someone has fallen for it, go ahead and point it out. Still possibly worked  But we need to all vote unanimously at the moment votes would be spread - Drazerk, Supersoft and Freeloader (aka Mafia win) I am going to hold my vote for now but we don't have an easy Mafia target like yesterday. Freeloader if you are town we CANNOT be voting for different people so I encourage you to change it or you will have lost us the game. If you don't change it your pretty much scum leading them into a easy win Good grief, Drazerk. Its posts like this that made me think you scum in the first place. You're right, we need to build a consensus. You know what that requires? Voting. At this point in the game, delaying your vote will only help the mafia game the system. + Show Spoiler + On June 27 2011 19:24 supersoft wrote: Yes of course. Lynch me for no reason. This will win us the game for sure. Just reread day one, when you all voted on gtrsrs. I was the only one who put in some effort and read his postings. All of you were just bandwagoning around blindly. We can't afford another mislynch. luckily I have a much better plan that lynching me and losing: Look at Alderans post. He wanted someone to claim DT. That means, that there must be a mafioso left, who could claim DT for him! Unfortunately for him, their plan was revealed. What happened now? obviously they abandoned their plan, because noone claimed! But let's have a look who didn't post/claimed something up to this point: Freeloader and CjrNinja. We have a 50/50 chance by now to get one of them now for sure! Since you guys probably don't trust me and think that I am mafia, I stop now with my analysis. Because if I were mafia I'd probably suggest the townie out of these two. I let you decide who to lynch out of these two + Show Spoiler + (I am not mafia and I really don't want to lose, I recommend CrjNinja - He is lurking all the time and bandwagoning. Very passive player, would have been a perfect blue. Now we know there isn't another blue, that points towards red! freeloader on the other hand is one of the more active players in here. But I think his fast vote on Drazerk this day wasn't thought out too well, not really protown, too) So we are all morons because we band-wagonned gtrsrs, whereas you have the distinction, night one, of having.... bandwagonned Aprudds? Um. Right.' + Show Spoiler + On June 24 2011 08:25 Alderan wrote: Its laughable...... Phenomenal play by mafia, for what its worth, I was RB'd again, but it doesn't matter, this is surely my death sentence and mafia will have won the game. There are 2 scenarios to how this happened. Pyo thought he was saving the game by false claiming DT, but it was way to obvious, mafia picked up on it and risked getting DT checked to have a sure fire scape goat, in me. They only need one vote, so even if a DT claimed now to save me it would cause so much uncertainty that it would almost certainly result in one of us casting a misslynch vote and the scum winning. The other scenario is Pyo is scum, fake claimed, and then immediately took back his fake claim after the night. Again the key here is to force uncertainty. He knew that this would place me on the chopping blocks. But why would a mafia who is so far ahead risk it? Well because they were afraid of their fearless leader Drazerk getting lynched, which, would DEFINITELY had happened had Pyo's claim and a repeated RB on me not taken place. It's town 101 to never lie, so it is either a HORRIBLE play by pyo, or great play by mafia, but either we lose. If there is a real DT, they need to claim or Drazerk and supersoft will win the game tonight. Alderan was not looking for someone to claim DT. He was clearly scum, and knew he was being bussed (it was 100% clear that he was scum here, in retrospect - had he actually been role-blocked he would have been certain there was a DT, not wishy-washy). Had the mafia, as you propose, planned for one of them to claim DT at this point Alderan's point would have been much more certain in that direction. Also it would have happened before he posted this. You're really grasping at straws here. I just went from maybe 90% sure on you to 95%. Thanks for the words about Cjr. Helps point the way to the third member of your club. | ||
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Hmmmm. Thinking. Just checking in to let you know I'm still paying attention to this thread. Cjr IS mega-lurking right now and the longer he does it the scummier he is. | ||
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On June 29 2011 06:24 Pyo wrote: I totally knew it!!! Alderan gave away supersoft with this post!!! Grrr... I wasn't sure about freeloader, but I had it down to either him or treadmill at the time I died. Freeloader primarily for this post. And Treadmill because of just general scummy play. I still maintain that my false DT claim could have saved the game if gtrsrs had played along. In fact if he had gone ahead and claimed that he lied about being medic, the only way mafia would have known that I was actually lying was if freeloader was scum. Combined with the way supersoft reacted to my claim (it reeked of scum slip first criticizing the play and then backtracking on the criticism), we totally could have won if things had gone a little differently. Unfortunately in your false DT claim you said that you checked fl625 and that he was green, so the mafia knew you were lying anyways. But I agree it was a good play, if a little confusing to the rest of us at first. | ||
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On June 29 2011 07:05 Pyo wrote: Yes mafia knew I was lying anyway, but if gtrsrs had gone along with it, the only way for mafia to have known I was lying was if freeloader was mafia. Therefore, when gtrsrs turned up dead anyway, freeloader would have been outed as scum. Picking freeloader wasn't by random (not totally anyway). I spent a little time deciding between him and you (treadmill) since I was suspicious of both of you. Oh, I see. Interesting. I hadn't quite understood that as being your strategy. I think you may have been overthinking things a little since the mafia may have just killed gtrsrs anyways, even if they thought you were DT. | ||
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On June 29 2011 14:42 gtrsrs wrote: in my defense i was getting bandwagoned (by a clever mafia to be fair) how are you still saying this when everyone that voted for you flipped green gtrsrs, please do not try to claim that you bear no responsibility for the loss. You claimed you knew all the mafia, 100%, listing CjrNinja, Xedat, and Drazerk. All three were town. You flamed and you spammed up the thread for completely wrong suspicions, distracting the town and letting the mafia hide. If you can't realize that I really don't want to ever play another game with you in it. | ||
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