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On June 22 2011 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote: @RoL Is there any way your 'mafia tutorial' would NOT apply DIRECTLY to ~OpZ~ as well, if not more accurately than it applies to YM? Explain how it would apply to opz? I didn't see opz really push anyone early on, and I don't remember exactly what it was but something about opz struck me as very pro town. | ||
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On June 22 2011 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I find it interesting how you're distorting the timeline around OpZ. 1st, OpZ pushes aidnai, based on spam. 2nd, OpZ claims indifference to lynching either aidnai, Sinani and ILJ 3rd, OpZ tunnels ILJ hard 4th, OpZ scum-switches to GG, an inactive lynch target that was already on the docket. GTFO scum. I didn't distort anything? I said I saw him push aidnai while ILJ was under fire. Tell me how I distorted any timeline? I didn't. | ||
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On June 22 2011 07:59 Kenpachi wrote: RoL is being extra obnoxious about not wanting to play this game.. seriously, i believe its some sort of psychology abuse. ##vote RebirthofLegend I know you haven't posted in like 2 game days, but if you look even just ONE page back you will see a giant analysis I just did. Except for the day 1 lul I had, I have posted actively since then. Please do not spread misinformation. | ||
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On June 22 2011 08:17 Kenpachi wrote: thanks for the analysis, much will be clear once youre gone, town or mafia. the problem with this is if I die then tomorrow we are 7-5 mafia, however if I am right on youngminii, which I am then we will be 9-4 which is much better. | ||
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On June 22 2011 09:25 youngminii wrote: wiggles i'm curious as to why you put so much effort into defending RoL then you make one line saying 'i agree with this guy' especially when: surely you'd have to have thought i was pretty townie if you wanted a medic to use their save on me i don't want this to be ignored, answer it when you're here When I lay out all the facts the way I did, I am sure I have quite a few people believing me, even if they think it's just a bus to save my own ass. | ||
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[6/18/2011 6:09:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm gonna pasate his msg [6/18/2011 6:09:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: It´s not really an analysis in my opinion, I just posted to get discussion going again. I don´t feel to well with either lynch, it will probably be a witch hunt again, like always I seriously doubt Demorcerf being scum though. ILJ will hold my vote until a better case comes up. It´s a better case than Sina or Aidnai. As for lurkers, I´m no fan of lurker hunting. Some scum might be lurking, but it is beyond me how to find them normally. Too bad no one followed your plan, was looking forward to it. The bold portion was supposed to infer that the only reason Mataza would be interested in Sandroba's (shitty) plan is because Mataza himself was a DT. It was such a vague reference that I never even realized it until Mataza pointed it out a couple of hours ago. | ||
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The next scum is Fudgemunkey. To preface, a lot of this is going to be off the assumption that youngminii is mafia, which I think is a safe assumption judging by my analysis. On top of that I need to delve a bit farther into the youngminii situation. One of the biggest things I have tried to make him do is take a stance on someone who isn't a fucking lurker, which he has outright refused to do. Lynching a lurker right now is like lynching ILJ on Day 1. It's shitty, and it sucks, and we have almost as little to work with. The people youngminii suspects are Demorcerf and LandenC on a large part. He has given little to no analysis on them, only has said to lynch them. The biggest part here is that he briefly mentions sinani, but completely ignores Jacinto and Fudgemunkey as inactives. Jacinto has around 5-6 posts and fudgemunkey has around 8. Why ignore these two as inactive? Most likely because at least one of them is scum. On June 14 2011 16:15 FudgeMunkey wrote: Ah I see your logic  but its not a very good plan if you just presume that anyone who doesn't mason you is automatically Mafia... I know that its probably gonna be another (real) day or two before I mason anyone... This is basically just a fluff post that tries to come off as friendly with his little smiley, while undermining my admittedly bad plan, the actual reasoning of my plan I will go into later. On June 14 2011 18:00 FudgeMunkey wrote: Also who says that the Mafia will kill you? They can easily just kill three people other than you. -_- That kinda wastes the point of everyone protecting you because they just kill three others... So this isn't the best strategy... While I admit my plan is bad, the way he is attacking it is silly. The point is that the medics protect me and the mafia are scared to hit me, and that if they really want to hit me it requires an absurd amount of KP to feel confident they wouldn't be wasting hits. The way he tries to point out the mafia benefits seems like it was written from a mafia standpoint while trying to appear townie. I feel like these points will appear weak, but I few them as supportive to the main arguments against fudgemunkey which will come next. On June 14 2011 16:00 FudgeMunkey wrote: Why are people masoning so quickly? I thought your supposed to make sure that the person you mason is actually trustworthy rather than just mason who ever has the most posts or the biggest... I mean who knows? You may be masoning Mafia straight away which is kinda a waste because they may not talk back to you... -_- Trying to instill paranoia with the masoning, once again I look at this as an additive to the main argument and necessary due to how little I have to work with. On June 15 2011 15:59 FudgeMunkey wrote: Yes, I agree with 'youngminii'... It seems as if the 'scum' never seem to support a strategy and instead find ways to make it look like its incorrect/false or just plain stupid... They hope to make it look like the person there arguing with is obviously Scum rather than townie or Blue. Once again another one of his posts that are based on the mafia perspective, and this time agreeing with youngminii who soon enough will be a confirmed scum. On June 17 2011 15:01 FudgeMunkey wrote: KP means Kill power! For every kill power the Mafia has they can kill each night... Mafia currently have 3 KP so they can kill 3 people per night... Hope that cleared it up. There is literally like 4-5 posts just on what the fuck KP stood for, I am not going to quote them all but its absolutely all filler/fluff with no content or purpose but to spam the thread and increase my blood pressure. On June 18 2011 16:38 FudgeMunkey wrote: To DeMorcef I understand your anger with me for not reading through the whole thread before posting, I have been busy with School work and so forth and I didn't want to get mod killed. I have read through the pages I have missed out on and I am pritty sure I'm up to date with the rest of you. On another note, I agree with Youngminii and VisceraEyes, RoL hasn't been putting the most useful information into this thread and the posts he ends up posting end up with him taunting the town as Youngminii stated. + Show Spoiler + I had a much busier day then I thought, and I ended up going to a party 2.5 hours away last night on an hours notice. But tomorrow I will try to be much more active until I head back into new jersey for a couple of days. Just some FYI, every day when I wake up and F5 this thread I am given a choice. I can A. Do some analysis and make sure you guys don't fuck up too bad, or B. Watch a marathon of 24. So far 24 has won the last 2 days. Maybe, just maybe if a vigi shoots Kenpachi tonight, 24 will lose the mental coin toss tomorrow. Just some advice. Obviously he'd rather do something else than be in this game and he is a Waste of Space... He is obviously taunting the town to see how long he will last and so far it seems to be working, NO ONE IS VOTING FOR HIM. Before I cast my vote into his/her basket I shall read more of the thread to make my decision final (just to make sure DeMorcef will be happy!) Another post just agreeing with youngminii, then posting how I contribute absolutely nothing to the thread. Coming from King of "What the fuck does KP stand for?" please don't be offended if I disregard what you said as beyond meaningless. On June 21 2011 14:51 FudgeMunkey wrote: To Varpulis I may be have been lurking for most of the game, but at least I'm reading through most the posts and at least half contributing! Unlike other lurkers who just watch, post something so they don't get mod killed and then go back into lurking mode... Bullshit. On June 20 2011 16:47 FudgeMunkey wrote: WOW! Three Townie dead... These two really shouldn't of been mod killed... Aidnai and Grassgiraffe although Grassgiraffe did a whole lot of nothing... So... guys what now? Nail in the coffin for me tbh. Pretending to be sad about town misfortune is one of the biggest bullshit scum tells ever. Get out of my game son. Conclusion Fudgemunkey is scum as fuck and I am going to vigi hit this little girl tonight. Oh btw? Time to claim so you retards can get off my shit. This means you Mataza, read are conversation, I was hinting at it several times, but you were too gungho on your no behavior analysis trap to actually do shit about it. I am a vigilante To explain what I have been doing this game, I will have to start from day 1. Night 3 is the most optimal night to hit since you will hopefully still be alive and ideally have the greatest ratio between chance of being alive and amount of information in the game currently. My antics on Day 1 (The mason circle, lying about amount of masons, calling on medic protection) all served the purpose of ensuring I didn't fucking die. and no, you won't find any posts of me hinting or bread crumbing my role, because I didn't do all that work to be worth a 2 KP snipe on me because some mafia like youngminii tried to do an analysis and realize he found a blue slip. It's why I am alive and other blues are dead. Why should you believe me? Because I am going to kill FudgeMunkey tonight and then you can all confirm me and stop acting like blind armless midgets. When the night phase comes and youngminii is dead I will have even more information for you hopefully, but we can wait until then. Lastly to Mataza. Do some fucking behavior analysis on me and stop relying on your flawed "Trap" that got sprung at the worst possible time. I kept telling you in PM's to look at me besides your little trap, and you outright didn't. Your entire case rests on what MANY people have pointed out is flawed and bullshit. Don't get me wrong, I am not getting scum vibes from you, I just wholeheartedly do not believe for a SECOND that you are arguing coherently, and that your continual influence in this town is going to lead us to inevitable defeat. So with that, lynch me and you can kiss your vigi shot goodnight which is the best chance of us turning this game back into our favor. My goal is by the end of Day 4 to have the mafia KP down to 1, because honestly without that we have WAY too many lurkers to work through with the mafia KP so high. So everyone time to realize why I am a veteran and Mataza is not. I lay down rape when it matters, while people like him will lead to your demise. And tell you what, if I don't have a hit during the night cycle, I will gladly die tomorrow in place of whatever scum I chose. Now lets pull our shit together and win this game. | ||
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On June 22 2011 15:06 youngminii wrote: i swear to god mataza if you are wrong about this look, basically if we lynch RoL today and he flips non-red, then (i dunno what the rest of town is thinking but i'm assuming they'll take RoL's analysis for truth) I'll be lynched tomorrow and we'll lose you can understand why people are apprehensive to listen to your 'plan' either way, i'll move my vote back to RoL since absolutely no one is looking to vote for landenc/demorcerf (WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING BY THE FUCKING WAY) If I see you try to push one more stupid lynch without analysis or purpose I will seriously fly out to australia and murder you with a kangaroo. | ||
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On June 22 2011 16:26 youngminii wrote: kenpachi's too i'm just saying, if you want to look for them they're there i'm sure you could weed out all the retarded parts of them Here let me take care of this for you! I will get rid of all the bad parts, unfortunately all we have left is this Youngminii wrote: The....Scum..... are..... mafia... Which unfortunately, doesn't prove very much. | ||
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On June 22 2011 16:38 Mataza wrote: This is wrong on sooo many levels. RoL is right now up for his second lynch, too. It is also the first case to involve a blue and it would also be the first lynch to off a red. Up to now only GREENS have been up to be lynched. I may be missing something, but our information from day 1 and day 2 analysis are worth nothing. You can´t tell me you hit Node through that knowledge. I believe you are good, but I don´t believe you are a magician. Seriously? Did you not see both of my fucking analysis? I use information from days 1 and 2. If you had the sense to ever fucking read anything instead of shouting about your plan the information is there to make correct decisions, you just have to open your eyes and be willing to try. When I say lynching a mafia today is vital to victory, I am not exaggerating, with the inactive presence in this game getting the town mafia numbers so close is sure defeat. Do some fucking analysis and maybe, just maybe you won't completely fuck this town. How is our position any better than day 2? Why Node´s death doesn´t matter to scum: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4L4d9.jpg) If I was scum and I could ensure that no scum will be lynched for the rest of the game, I would totally do it. And that is why our situation is actually worse then day 2. Much worse. We magically caught a scum oh wondrous world. No analysis has been done on him. Sinani commited a vote to him. How the fuck did you "catch" Node? Stop sucking, there is a reason BC is considered one of the best players on this forum and its because we can take a bit of luck (Hiro not dying) and turn it into a rape. If you really want to see lightning strike a few more times, you kids better make sure I am alive come 10PM EST tomorrow. | ||
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On June 22 2011 17:35 youngminii wrote: there's no way in hell anyone should believe you a VIG goes out of his way to form a ridiculous mason plan on day 1 painting him as a giant target for scum? LOLNO Yeah, notice how I am alive and our blues aren't. Who is ridiculous now? Blues get caught by trying to play in the background and get sniped for doing stupid shit. When I am in a game I make sure to be so active, and such be such a threat to get a medic protection that I am absolutely not worth hitting, just because of the risk, and stacking early on isn't worth it. Kill me and watch the hops of victory for the town go with it. We need my kill in order to rip victory from the jaws of defeat. | ||
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On June 22 2011 17:38 youngminii wrote: HAHAHAHAHHA AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ....? You caught me, I am definitely not above using elaborate strategies to confuse mafia. wait.... look at how I avoided dying so far? There is a reason that while we are both considered vets, that I am on a whole different level and its because I can change up styles to do what needs to be done. Much like Jack Bauer.... | ||
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On June 22 2011 17:47 youngminii wrote: ok there's absolutely no way i'm letting you live today just wait until the game is over and you'll see that your tunneling of me was terrible if not horrific once we kill you maybe we'll FINALLY get to tackle the lurkers I told you on Skype, and I will tell you here. There is no fucking way I am going to throw this game by letting you live, and letting this uninformed fool by the name of Mataza use convaluted plans with bad results to end me. You will have to wade through a sea of logical arguments, and badass analysis while hell freezes over around me before I throw this game to sheer stupidity. You are just lucky that your side can somewhat control your lurkers, while my side has to figure out whether or not we should kill them. | ||
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