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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 28 2011 18:29 GMT
#66
mmmm
/in
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 31 2011 08:58 GMT
#639
Hey all, glad to see the person I gave it to like my role, hope you use it well! As for my own role, guess whoever gave it don’t know me that well

In general a good amount of people need to put some more effort into their posts. When I’m short on time I’d much rather read 2-3 well thought out posts than pages of 1 liner back and forths. Meapak you started strong, I hope you won’t succumb to the spam as well.

To the people that thinks this is an experienced game, you are wrong. We are actually pretty low on vets, which the general posting standard is a testimony to. This is good news however, you don’t have to feel intimidated or new by the players here, use this to your advantage by having your own clear opinions and thoughts.

It seems like we got some people with posting restriction in the game, which is a disappointment in my opinion, since it limits the player not the character. However, this means you have to be more careful than usual using meta as an argument. If someone is posting strangely, you never know if they are acting in a certain way, or posting a certain amounts of posts because of it. Amber is best ignored for now, and as long as Palmar keeps contributing more than fistpumps, he can play this in any way he wants to.

BC looks town to me, he suggested a plan that was meant to generate discussion and provide reads, and even if it didn’t, he followed up on it with it without having to. Compare this to his play as godfather in mafia XXVIII, where he provided a list that did nothing more than call attention to himself and other vets: + Show Spoiler +
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.
My only caveat BC is the lack of reasoning in your posts, even if it corresponds a lot to my own, the point of the excercise is to provide content, not lists.

DropBear I like the effort you put into analysis, just be careful with posting too many at a time, it clutters up the thread and make people stop reading them. Kitaman is a hard person to read with a lot of short posts as town, I wouldn't put him as mafia just yet.

On May 31 2011 10:54 Jackal58 wrote:
And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays.

Good to know, wouldn’t want to call you town just because you posted on Tuesdays . Good to have you back!
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 06:24 GMT
#957
I'm back and reading up on thread now. Sorry for my low activity level so far.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 07:19 GMT
#966
lol viscara you came up with that survey just so you could soft claim? Why on earth would you do that on day 1....

On June 01 2011 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
You guys can lynch me if you want, you've seen the questions, the answers are irrelevant. If everyone answers them, we'll have a LOT to go on as far as scum-hunting goes. If some people answer them, you'll have some to go on. If no one answers them, then mafia already won.

This is just a bunch of WIFOM. Quite frankly there has been plenty of times for funny day 1 quizzes, there strength is to give people a reason to post in the beginning, with about 12 hours to night post it's not going to bring valuable information.

On June 01 2011 14:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Pro-town..besides me (herp)....I'd have to say Amber. He's going to a lot of effort to contribute so far, and most of it has been relevant imo...by which I mean, I agree on most of his vaguely communicated reads so far. I also feel like Node is green. He's at least giving us his opinion, and most of it is fair that I've read.
I fail to see what is so pro town about a guy that just quotes and votes. Quite frankly it would be terrible town play by any measure. He started the Sandroba train and has been awol since.

On June 01 2011 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
@BloodyC0bbler

Tell me this list-guy. Why do you think I'm supposedly on the dog's unverified list? I have no idea, as I'm obviously inexperienced and, as you say, terrible...but I suspect it's because he either knows my role or my alignment.

You don't like the attention?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 07:22 GMT
#967
Bartundar should also live another day to see if his inactivity will be a day 1 affair or a serious issue. His alignment should be gleaned fairly quickly based on his participation in thread.

Will be a lot easier for me to keep up once thread slows down.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 08:01 GMT
#971
I agree way too little attention has been given to the more experienced players this game. Only one of them I feel I got a solid read on is Node, who has been posting consistently. Amber has been getting away with very little without being questioned, and bum has been on two wagons. These are the hardest players to read, but they are also the players decon knows the best, and is most likely to give special alignments.

I'm most suspicious of Meapak at the moment. He posted a long post to improve thread readability in the start, but has since succumbed to way simpler posting. He asks BC and bum to calm the thread down, but doesn't do it himself. He is eager to answer the quiz questions by visceyes, and even happy to give more reasons later, but quickly changing his mind when it's pointed out it gives scum an easy reason to post.

He is pushing hard for a Tackster lynch, which seems like an easy target considering how hard it can be to keep up with this thread.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 15:06 GMT
#1033
Urgh Kurumi your posts are so hard to read. You went almost unnoticed in PYPI until you blew yourself up because of it. If tnkted hadn't pointed it out, I would have completely missed that last line.

Chaos13: While I agree GM is scummy, I question whether we really need another lynch target. The guy is pressuring me and all, but it wasn't unjustified pressure. It's pretty standard for him to play the inactives worst nightmare day 1.

Also I disagree with you on viscara eyes, I don't think the questions was to promote discussion, I think it was so he could answer it himself and claim veteran. Why on earth would he do that as town? The whole point of having an extra life is to get scum to shoot you. I'm going to vote him to see how he react to pressure.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 01 2011 15:27 GMT
#1043
chaos13: Seems like a bunch of wifom to me :/. And oh the irony GM....
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 07:21 GMT
#1329
Why do people keep asking for medic protect on dropbear after he has asked not to be? And having BC back as a confirmed town forum vet is fucking good, no matter possible drawbacks to his role.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#1330
So we have

1. Bum who claims SK.
2. sina who claims to be able to bring back BC if he gets shot. Without knowing much about it, I guess you pick a dead guy who will replace you if you die during the night?
3. Only reason not to have bum shoot sina is if sina gets roleblocked so he dies without reviving BC.

Having BC, who is one of the best players on this forum, back as a confirmed green, would be a freaking huge asset to the town, and the fact that random vigi’s would maybe have their shot blocked because he comes back is a shit argument against it.

Best solution would be to have watcher roles watching sina. If mafia tries to roleblock sina, we get a mafia. I know we can’t be sure if we have any watcher roles, but neither can mafia. Question is if they want to risk one of their own just to stop BC from coming back. I say we go for it, and let mafia shit in their pants about the choice tonight.

Lastly I’m most inclined to agree with Kita, there is no reason for us to believe Bum is not scum. He is an excellent choice for a DT check tonight, so we can deal with him tomorrow.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 08:05 GMT
#1331
On June 02 2011 07:51 Mig wrote:
Vets like barundar who are not contributing should be focused on.

Wait what? Who the fuck are you? I searched on your name and the last post was on page 28. If you want to bring weak fingerpointing like that you have better done your homework, I bet you haven't even read half my posts.

Nice job parroting Node as well btw.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 02 2011 08:34 GMT
#1333
I'm fine with being criticized on activity level. I'm not OK with stabs at my character. Saying I have not been contributing is a weak general statement, that just undermines my credibility. If you look at what happened to Incognito in PYP:Insane, you will see that if you call someone scum long enough, you can be the most pro town player around, and still be super suspicious.

You popped up and actually said something that could either be a stupid comment by a town, or a weak character stab from a mafia. Either case, I'm not going to let it slip by.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 03 2011 00:01 GMT
#1550
Modconfirmed red check

##Vote Wiggles

Will read thread tomorrow...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 03 2011 07:36 GMT
#1592
Why do you believe one of them claiming over the other? Mafia want's to push SK's that helps town you know...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 03 2011 22:55 GMT
#1691
If we have up to 5 third parties, and 2 people already claiming SK, I'd guess we have 3 assassins. That number fits with the last game that featured assassins. I don't trust the people who where random shooting and claimed vigi one bit because of it, if they have another win condition they will continue to "shoot for information", simply because it furthers their win condition.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 04 2011 00:39 GMT
#1693
Very, very hard to keep up with thread in the last week Jackal. Should improve now that I'm going home. What happened to your smileys btw?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 04 2011 02:08 GMT
#1695
Well Jackal I'm pulling an all night so I might as well give some thoughts now.

Lurkers have been living a disappointingly super easy life in this game. For an example I could hardly post in the beginning, yet only GM actually put a vote on me. Players like Mig, Karshe and Tortelini have been scooting the minimal posting threshold without any real pressure. Plus we have Amber, who we can't get a read on. If he is mafia, he is getting by in the easiest way possible.

I'm not sure how many of you actually payed attention to his posts, but I'm impressed with EternalMisfit. He seemed pretty bad in the last game I played with him, but so far his posts has been well reasoned without succumbing to the spam the majority of town is so fond of.

Jackal is town. It's very hard to fake a rage post like the one he did.

Palmar has been shooting randomly, managed to hit a mole and now claims to be the most pro town player around. My top guy for an SK if one of the 2 claims is lying.

Meapak has had some shoddy reasoning IMO, and has been apprehensive towards the wiggle lynch, my top suspect after the claimed anti towns. Mataza likewise.

Rest of the mafia is probably amongst the newer players, plenty of time to figure them out while we kill our way through the current anti town players.

Can anyone tell me why bringing back BC as a confirmed town is such a bad idea? Vigi's should shoot Sinani come night imo, he isn't contributing anyways, and BC is the kind of player that pegs a whole mafia team by himself (even if Kita shoots him for it).

Lastly I can't keep track of the PM circles. Is it correct that we have

1. Jackal + Bum
2. GM + Kurumi
3. redFF + Amber?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 05 2011 10:59 GMT
#1894
Depends on if he used the SK hit to kill, or a Joker ability. I'd assume someone alignment checked Bum by now. In any case he is anti town and unless we catch a mafia should die tomorrow -_-

Meapak clears TDL, and both of them was on my suspect list. Seems very convenient.

@GM where is your gargantuan post? I don't think you would prove anything just by killing Kurumi. The guy seems eager to shoot who town tells him to. If you actually are town, maybe recruit chaos13 or redFF to start connecting the circles. That way you guys can control Kurumi's shot.

Mig has started to post more, so he is off my list of lurkers for now. Karshe, Hiro Protagonist and stefftastiq seems to have disappeared from thread however.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 05 2011 20:30 GMT
#1924
Pictures are tolerated, who told you otherwise? I don't understand your post, are you hinting your role or arguing for a plan?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 05 2011 22:17 GMT
#1974
@cth who knows, this game is so fucked up.

Why you would kill Kita is beyond me.

We really lack a proper lynch with cases and arguments. Way too many people are starting to fall off the radar because there is no pressure on anyone else. That said, bum is confirmed anti town, so for now he gets my vote...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 08:05 GMT
#2098
I think that no matter what we get more information from this than a settled lynch with no discussion. Bum is an excellent lynch, because he isn't town and we need to kill him. I'd say Palmar and TDL are decent candidates for scum.

Palmar's only defense seems to be that he shot the mole. Bum's defense is the same, that he pushed hard for the mole in the beginning. We don't know if there is more moles around, but we know if there is, they would have turned mafia today. Chances are a mole who hasn't gotten killed off by this point has a lot more town cred.

TDL has been avoiding the thread, and he fails to put up a proper defense. Meapak confirmed his role, but even with his posting restriction, he has been one of the least contributing persons so far. Of the three, he is by far the scummiest in my opinion.

redFF unless EM is another mole, I don't see him being scum. He has been posting consistently without fear, and not just small posts without contributions. Hiro Protagonist is suspicious to me too, but he is just one of out several lurkers, very hard to get a read on.

Of bum, Palmar and TDL, TDL seems the most suspicious to me. Sadly he has gone through the game pretty much without any pressure, bar people screaming to vigi him. To that end I will put my vote on him, but I'm going to change if a bunch of suspicious fellows joins me.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 08:39 GMT
#2101
@Palmar read the day post again, Mataza has a bomb on him. Should give us some good information. Torte seems a lot scummier than you Palmar, but your defense is wifom. I'd love to see you post cases instead. What do you think of the lurkers Hiro Protagonist and Karshe, possibly others I have missed?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 10:42 GMT
#2106
Mind updating the player list decon? Who did he replace? Has he claimed DT yet?

Welcome Pandadude :p
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:17 GMT
#2221
On June 07 2011 03:55 Kurumi wrote:
1KP my
1KP mafia
1KP Palmar
1KP Pandain
1KP Karshe
1KP Gmarshal
Does this sound good enough?

Karshe claimed vigi? What about the bomb on Mataza, isn't that counted as a KP?

Pandain ALWAYS fake claim, regardless of alignment. Don't buy into it, it's pointless, and doesn't say anything of him.

Also don't bring up lynching for information, it's just a bad thing all around. We lynch the guy most likely to be mafia, or we lynch an SK. Either case the lynch is not wasted, and we get more information through the voting procedure and following flip than through connections to other people.

In short vote for who you think is scummiest, so we can hold you accountable for it. Saying you will vote someone and then backing off when questioned about it is NOT a valid excuse.

My vote is staying on tortelini, despite he looks more pro town through his argument with kurumi, he still has failed to give proper reads and thoughts on the game. I'm expecting him to do a proper post with his last post, and then I will consider moving my vote off him, but he is not getting away this easy.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:24 GMT
#2224
Where does it say that Pandain replaced Kenpachi? last I saw on the subject decon said he was "negotiating".

Palmar are you sure of those names or are you guessing?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:25 GMT
#2225
EBWODP "Palmar" should read "Kurumi"
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:31 GMT
#2229
On June 06 2011 20:56 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 19:42 Barundar wrote:
Mind updating the player list decon? Who did he replace? Has he claimed DT yet?

Welcome Pandadude :p


Will update in a bit. Trying to negotiate with people.

Also, there was a typo in the day post. It should have read that the bomb on Mataza will explode in 48 hours. Apologies for the mistake.

This post a few minutes later though J
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:42 GMT
#2232
On June 07 2011 04:26 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 04:25 Barundar wrote:
EBWODP "Palmar" should read "Kurumi"

It is highly likely that it went like that. The Pandain and Karshe case is uncertain,though makes sense.

Urgh forgive me if I don't exactly by into what you are guessing...

6KP is still a lot, if Palmar is scum we need to kill him today to reduce it.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:45 GMT
#2235
Yeah might have to reconsider. Problem is Palmar isn't exactly scummy in his posing, its just his actions...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#2237
Problem is Palmar, I'm not sure I trust you to prove it, shoot more townies and play noob card, if you are mafia you put yourself into the perfect wifom position with the mole kill in the start. Ah well will see tomorrow when Torte has posted again.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 06 2011 21:01 GMT
#2246
Mig you want to shoot TLD but you don't think he is mafia and would rather lynch bum? Explain please?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 11:57 GMT
#2335
lol this is why LAL is a proven policy. We have no way of knowing if there is assassins in the game or if he is pulling numbers out his ass. Now we are banking on a faction we don't know exist to kill him. What are we going to do when he survives the night and hand us another lie?

Stop the BS.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 12:40 GMT
#2344
Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 12:45 GMT
#2348
On June 07 2011 21:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 21:40 Barundar wrote:
Thing is, if Palmar actually is an assassin, he will only have tonight to win the game, meaning he will shoot twice, both with his role and with his assassin ability. Thats twice as much as mafia will kill tonight if Kurumi is telling the truth about KP. And I don't believe for a second he will shoot where we ask him to...


I can't shoot both guns at once. Dec said it'd be overpowered.

Dec can you confirm this?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 15:21 GMT
#2385
Meh I don't trust Palmar one bit, but we can deal with him tomorrow I guess. At least we get one claimed anti town tonight. I'll keep my vote on torte, with the hope that he dies tonight. Bye bye bum.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 15:35 GMT
#2396
On June 08 2011 00:30 Cthsazsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 00:21 Barundar wrote:
Meh I don't trust Palmar one bit, but we can deal with him tomorrow I guess. At least we get one claimed anti town tonight. I'll keep my vote on torte, with the hope that he dies tonight. Bye bye bum.


What good is keeping your vote on TDL going to do?

What good is being number 13 or 14 on the bum lynch going to do? Bum is pretty dead with or without me by the looks of things, I'll stay where I'm most certain of scum.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 16:54 GMT
#2429
On June 08 2011 01:27 Cthsazsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 10:07 chaos13 wrote:
I don't want you to kill sinani.

Live Sinani206


Could have been a hint that Chaos13 created Sinani's role, but I have doubts. He didn't push hard enough, as this was the only post I saw. Of course there was Mig, redFF, and Mataza (I think) who were against killing Sinani.
I don't buy his 100% revival claim. His role claim was also stupid. He should have been trying to bait mafia shots, instead it looks like he's trying to bait vigi shots on him.

I'm almost completely sure I read whoever made his role confirmed it, otherwise I would have put sinani on my inactivity lists. If I'm wrong, my bad. You are right it could be a scum move to ask for hits, but considering how willing people have been to shoot everywhere, I'd consider it a huge gamble. In any case I should go back and check sinanis roleclaim, urgh. Why is this game so hard to read...

Torte has been arguing with Kurumi sure, but that seems to be all he has done. He has consistently played the noob card, and talked to his accusers instead of trying to find scum, and now he has disappeared again. I don't see why you defend him.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 17:34 GMT
#2458
Barundar, if you keep your vote on someone you don´t want to lynch, we have to assume you gain Role powers by voting. Very suspicious.
Don´t forget he did this after tonight.

What? Could someone translate this please? TDL is by far the best lynch today. While either bum or kurumi might be scum, I'm way more certain TDL is scum. I place my vote where I think scum is, not where someone else tells me to. And my role has nothing to do with where I vote lol.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 17:35 GMT
#2459
Kurumi should read palmar. Why do I keep mixing up those 2 names
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 19:51 GMT
#2557

Mataza why don't you tell me why you think TDL is town? Somehow I doubt that all three targets today are mafia, and if I had to pick one of them I was sure of it had to be Torte De Lini. It makes no freaking sense to go into the Palmar vs Bum discussion when we have an obvious mafia to lynch.

For what it's worth Palmar, I think you have played a pretty damn good game regardless of alignment. People trust in you and what you say, despite lie upon lie telling them not to. That's signs of a strong player, truth is mafia it's not about having a good scumdar, it's about being able to influence people, and get your targets lynched, something I will never get good at.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 07 2011 20:09 GMT
#2566
On June 08 2011 04:54 Mataza wrote:
TdL shows no interest in the game. He probably doesn´t even wanna play anymore.
He is on my "consider murder on these gus" list though.

It´s a gamble, since his role blocks a lot of people passively. The first night after he is dead, you get to see the first time how many kills are actually possible in this game.

It's way too easy to use the excuse that he is uninterested in the game. If he was truly uninterested he would get replaced. It's not like he has completely vanished either.

Anyways if Palmar flip red everything just got a lot more simple...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 06:27 GMT
#2680
Agreed with most of Mig's points tonight, except that you shouldn't discard Torte just because he voted Bum. I don't think everyone on the Palmar train is mafia, and likewise I don't think everyone on the bum train is town. Anyways, in case he survives the night, lynching bum should be first order of business tomorrow, no exceptions.

Also, don't forget the option to vigi Sinani. He is either lurking scum, or a very useful townie to kill. Either way, he is not a bad shot.

Sigh I guess I better put together a full case on TDL...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:04 GMT
#2715
##Fistpound Palmar

This should be a certain win now ^^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#2722
Well I was holding back on my TDL analysis to not distract from getting bum killed. As that seem to have solved itself I'll post it:

Torte De Lini analysis

+ Show Spoiler +
We know the following about Torte de Lini

1) It is his first game
2) He has a role with a posting restriction, but massive roleblocking potential (3 targets one night)

A new town player is often appalled by the amounts of posts in a game of mafia. They are however eager to try the game, and often put a lot of effort into it. This is because every person naturally thinks he/she is special, and will make a difference. We all know that new town players are often misled, make a ton of mistakes, and can easily be more of a detriment to their team than an asset, but they are always eager to prove themselves. New town players wants to make an impact on the game. Often they fail at it, becomes tired of reading, gets very apologetic or self hating, but they always start out wanting to contribute.

TDL is in this game assigned a role with a posting limitation. We know this, because Meapak designed it, and he was green. If you know anything to TDL’s general posting habits on the forum, you know he is posting eagerly, border lining spammy. He can also write pages long blogs without problems. If he wants to ague, he is more than capable of it.

His posting in this game starts out by being short and meaningless. In his first post he fucks up by saying it’s an advantage that no one can tell his alignment, being a new player. Woops, the least a townie is concerned about when he start the game is his alignment. His next post tries to excuse that.

You can call that a noob mistake regardless of alignment. But what’s important is that 1) he is ignoring the current discussion in thread. 2) He has just wasted two of his precious posts on nothing. Both of these things goes against making an impact. New town players makes mistakes with their opinion. New mafia players, they just want to slip by.

His next post of the day (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=24#462) is the most condemning. Notice the repetition in the questions, and notice the missing words in the second sentence. The post shows sign of 1) extensive editing, where words and sentences gets mixed up, 2) being a “post and forget” type of post. Number 1 is a sign of mafia trying to make his contribution for the day, which eventually has to be fake. Number two is a sign of not actually wanting to follow up on the discussion, he just wants others to spend time answering them. Both are clear mafia signs, and should have raised huge red flags.

After getting called out on the above post he plays the noob card the rest of the day. His posts are filled with guilt however, you can tell that he is feeling pressured, even if he is just a name amongst many others. A stupid townie simply gets annoyed and shuts up, or goes offensive, TDL tries to look as small as possible.

A nice scumslip happens the day after (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=79#1571) . The post itself is characterized by being non substantial. Why would someone under a posting restriction post to say he should do something else before posting? But the funny thing is it is completely strapped of any suspicion. New players often see mafia everywhere, and don’t trust anyone. Torte doesn’t seem to be concerned with that at all, he is just fitting in. But notice the editing with regards to his vote. He has clearly not felt good about voting wiggles, and has tried to come up with a way to soften the impact... and failed, because he knows wiggles is guilty. This is such an obvious example of a newb scum struggling with himself to bus his own team mate that I can’t believe I haven’t noticed it sooner.

The day continues with more one liner spam that is completely uncharacteristic for a townie with a posting restriction. Since I don’t like repeating myself, you can read it yourself. He comes out to talk about his role and defend himself, but the main thing to notice is he is not at all concerned with finding mafia, and that he underlines how much of a noob he is. At this point his posting restriction is just a poor excuse for lurking his ass off.

Later in the day he put up a defence against redFF’s accusation (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=94#1873). This is a good post that finally shows us that TDL has the potential to be a very contributing player if he wants to. Just a pity that all he does with his time is to defend himself then, right? It doesn’t help that redFF’s case is bullshit. All in all TDL looks more town from this post than before, but it doesn’t tell us much of his alignment other than that he could contribute if he would. Rest of day is more of the same.

Conclusion:
From reading this analysis it should be clear that TDL is not playing to further the town goals. It is not his abilities that is lacking, it is his motives. There is several contradictions between his posting restriction and one line contributions. His posts are doing their best to avoid standing out. His contributions are post and forget contributions. And most importantly, he is not suspicious of anyone at all, and why would he be, he already knows the scum. All he is trying to do is to survive.

Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:11 GMT
#2731
On June 09 2011 06:09 redFF wrote:
And yes lol TDL is scum that should be obvious now great job there Barundar too bad you have done jack shit all game :D

Would have been helluva lot easier getting him lynched if you hadn't posted such a trash analysis of him :/
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:25 GMT
#2746
>_< I'll answer tomorrow.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 06:36 GMT
#2837
I can't be bothered to answer TDL's wall of text. The guy is scum, end of.

EM has been giving me town wipes all along, even if his Palmar lynch seems pretty stupid looking back. I know I'm town, so that leaves you hiro.

Nice job trying to save TDL, you are pretty much confirmed scum at this point, if you really want to save him we might as well lynch you! ^.^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 06:51 GMT
#2839
Why would town lynch bum? I don't even get the reasoning, he claimed bullet proof at night, not at day.

Seems like a poor attempt to waste a KP for town. This is not over yet guys.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 06:59 GMT
#2840
Don't waste a DT check on Hiro, he is scum. Instead use it on Amber, he started out strong town but was on the Palmar train. My guess is mole.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 07:06 GMT
#2843
Dude it's pretty easy. We have a bunch of confirmed townies, and it's just a matter of killing through the non confirmed before scum can kill them. Luckily town has two KP and mafia has only one.

Why am I even arguing with you? You are scum and just trying to drag it out, I don't get why you don't just concede :/
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 07:23 GMT
#2846
Nice knit-picking! Thing is, if you really where town, then why would we waste a DT check on you over your team mates? If you actually flipped green, lynching me the day after would be the easiest thing in the world. A shot works just as well, if not better, than a check in this case, as you can't mess with it.

We need the DT check to find out where our next kill should be after you are dead, so we don't have to lynch blindly to find mafia.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 07:30 GMT
#2847
On June 09 2011 16:22 hiro protagonist wrote:
Basically town should not listen to ether one of us until one is dead or confirmed town/scum. That way, the one of us that is scum wont interfere with town discussion. that's my advice. I have made my thoughts known. Its up to you guys now

Haha, afraid of how your BS got called out? ^^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 07:36 GMT
#2851
On June 09 2011 16:33 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 16:23 Barundar wrote:
Nice knit-picking! Thing is, if you really where town, then why would we waste a DT check on you over your team mates? If you actually flipped green, lynching me the day after would be the easiest thing in the world. A shot works just as well, if not better, than a check in this case, as you can't mess with it.

We need the DT check to find out where our next kill should be after you are dead, so we don't have to lynch blindly to find mafia.


lynching you the day after will be the easiest thing, but thats one more town dead. Great thing is, we all ready have a lynch target in TDL, and Bum if he survives. So we can check tonight on one of us. The more town, The more kp mafia has to use to kill us. Having one more confirmed town alive rather than a 1:1 trade is dependent on the situation. Imo, we have lost a lot of town! the bigger our confirm list grows, the harder for Mafia to interfere...

So tell me then, who would you shoot tonight if Bum and TDL dies?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 07:46 GMT
#2854
On June 09 2011 16:44 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 16:36 Barundar wrote:
On June 09 2011 16:33 hiro protagonist wrote:
On June 09 2011 16:23 Barundar wrote:
Nice knit-picking! Thing is, if you really where town, then why would we waste a DT check on you over your team mates? If you actually flipped green, lynching me the day after would be the easiest thing in the world. A shot works just as well, if not better, than a check in this case, as you can't mess with it.

We need the DT check to find out where our next kill should be after you are dead, so we don't have to lynch blindly to find mafia.


lynching you the day after will be the easiest thing, but thats one more town dead. Great thing is, we all ready have a lynch target in TDL, and Bum if he survives. So we can check tonight on one of us. The more town, The more kp mafia has to use to kill us. Having one more confirmed town alive rather than a 1:1 trade is dependent on the situation. Imo, we have lost a lot of town! the bigger our confirm list grows, the harder for Mafia to interfere...

So tell me then, who would you shoot tonight if Bum and TDL dies?


you


Oh right, a hypothetical. Well heres the thing, we both look scummy. So its hard to judge for an outsiders perspective. If Bum and TDL die today, I will be ecstatic, and will gladly take the bullet because the joker is dead and mafia is likely cut in half. so listen up town! if Bum and TDL die, shoot me!

So much WIFOM... at this point you have me fearing bum won't die...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 09 2011 08:04 GMT
#2857
Exactly. All I see is Hiro trying to divert the lynch.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 07:41 GMT
#2983
I have gotten busy in real life so I'd prefer to die before SK thanks.

Also fun fact: Town is gonna lose.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 08:14 GMT
#2985
lol.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:24 GMT
#3039
I told Bum my alignment and in exchange for trying to keep town from lynching him on day 3 he would give me the names of his scum team. I also traded him two townie roles in exchange for shooting Kurumi.

lie.

Btw I'll gladly answer questions as the mafia spokesperson until my death. I will ignore any questions not from Jackal or Palmar however, as I don't want to give away info about my allies.

Shoot away (hihi)
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:28 GMT
#3042
Yeah. I imagine you and me can have more of a conversation though, might have a proposition for you later .
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:40 GMT
#3044
Haha Jackal don't be so sure. You just might have to help us with this green infestation problem we are trying to cure.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:53 GMT
#3048
On June 12 2011 05:45 Palmar wrote:
@Barundar

who's your buddies?

The ones you aren't shooting.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#3049
On June 12 2011 05:43 Jackal58 wrote:
Lol. At the risk of sounding racist I'm more concerned with the blacks.

I only know of one more.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:57 GMT
#3050
I will be a little more open when I'm not drunk, don't wanna slip ^^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 21:22 GMT
#3054
Wanna coordinate night hits Jackal?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 21:40 GMT
#3063
On June 12 2011 06:35 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 06:22 Barundar wrote:
Wanna coordinate night hits Jackal?

Why would I want to do that? I can't benefit you guys. I can't benefit town. I will be dead at the next day post.

Actually I can offer you a deal making sure you won't .
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 11 2011 21:53 GMT
#3067
On June 12 2011 06:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 06:40 Barundar wrote:
On June 12 2011 06:35 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 12 2011 06:22 Barundar wrote:
Wanna coordinate night hits Jackal?

Why would I want to do that? I can't benefit you guys. I can't benefit town. I will be dead at the next day post.

Actually I can offer you a deal making sure you won't .

If I accept any deals from you I will be lynched immediately so lol nah. If you keep me alive for the night I will be lynched tomorrow. My game is over man.

Trust me it's not. Town is pretty clueless as you can see :/.

I will reveal more tomorrow, closer to lynch, but ultimately you will have to trust me.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 07:44 GMT
#3114
Jackal cut the bullshit, you sound as stupid as the town .

As I said I'm fine with being lynched.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 08:26 GMT
#3124
I'm lol'ing so hard right now.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#3125
btw Palmar how much did you mean what you said about your play before you died earlier?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 08:34 GMT
#3129
The whole: My play is so bad I'm sorry town blah blah
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 08:43 GMT
#3135
On June 12 2011 17:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 17:34 Barundar wrote:
The whole: My play is so bad I'm sorry town blah blah


I meant all of it.

I also just lost outright in SNMMIII, we lynched 3 townies and shot one more without ever touching the mafia.

My mafia finding skills are guesswork at the moment, I have no idea how to improve. I have read Ver's guide all through three times, and I'm trying to look for other resources. I am terrible at town play and I want to improve, I just don't know how.

Dude you are not terrible. Mafia is way more about being able to convince others that you are right than about having a good scumdar. What good is it that you can list 3 mafia by day 2, if you can't get them lynched? It's just as bad as those people that say: "I knew it all along!" in the post game.

You have clear skills. Notice how town believed your claims every time you did them in this game. You are easy to read as town, which is a quality. And because you have the ability to influence others, the moment you get a mafia right, he is dead. You got the potential for a really good town player.

A good scumdar comes with practice. Try and sit out one game and just analyze it, discuss your reads with the host. It's way easier to analyze when you are not part of the game yourself.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 09:03 GMT
#3145
Hihi Jackal you should have listened to me in stead.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 13:27 GMT
#3150
On June 12 2011 21:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 18:03 Barundar wrote:
Hihi Jackal you should have listened to me in stead.

Lol. You're pooched.

Voting thread tells me otherwise... You could have gotten town lynched but you gave us no choice.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 13:37 GMT
#3151
I can still offer to work with other SK tomorrow if you are interested...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 15:37 GMT
#3156
In my opinion we should lynch Palmar.

He seems kinda dangerous.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 15:45 GMT
#3161
On June 13 2011 00:44 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:37 Barundar wrote:
In my opinion we should lynch Palmar.

He seems kinda dangerous.

He's gonna shoot himself. Let's lynch Rean. Better dumb than scum right?

How do you know?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 15:47 GMT
#3165
On June 13 2011 00:46 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 00:45 Barundar wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:44 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 13 2011 00:37 Barundar wrote:
In my opinion we should lynch Palmar.

He seems kinda dangerous.

He's gonna shoot himself. Let's lynch Rean. Better dumb than scum right?

How do you know?

If he keeps playing with that gun he's gonna blow his own foot off.

Ah lol, thought bum shared my role.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 15:49 GMT
#3167
Palmar what you think of Jackal? also what is your favorite color, starcraft unit and shoesize?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 15:53 GMT
#3169
Little late for that, but I might have a surprise for you if you stick around lynch time ^^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 16:02 GMT
#3170
Actually I won't. Serves the team better to let you die. Sorry :/
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 12 2011 21:07 GMT
#3183
Lol host rick rollin us
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 13 2011 10:37 GMT
#3206
On June 13 2011 19:21 Palmar wrote:
oh and I of course excluded barundar, cause I think there's no question he's the greenest bro in town atm.

Haha right back at ya

I've not killed as many as you have... yet.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 13 2011 21:08 GMT
#3210
GG and GL
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#3592
GG all, gratz town
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:12:50
June 18 2011 21:07 GMT
#3593
Kurumi I cant believe you single handedly won the game for town, and you didnt even intent it lol.

When I saw that day post I was just like... no way...

And Palmar don't quit, you where town MVP... (not that it say a lot in this game )
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 18 2011 21:23 GMT
#3595
On June 19 2011 06:14 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:07 Barundar wrote:
Kurumi I cant believe you single handedly won the game for town, and you didnt even intent it lol.

When I saw that day post I was just like... no way...

And Palmar don't quit, you where town MVP... (not that it say a lot in this game )

The sinani206 shootage? I hoped he was scum and he'd revive Wiggles,LOL.

Insanity at it's finest
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 18 2011 21:37 GMT
#3599
Mafia had the opportunity to lynch Palmar, Rean or Cthaza using Barundar's extra vote. Had they killed Cthaza, his ability would have killed Karshe as well, though they didn't know that. However, instead of getting Jackal's help they let him get lynched instead ultimately costing them the game.

This was a pickle. We met on IRC, and I argued for killing Palmar with Jackal, and go into a shoot off end game, where we would rely on Jackal to win, but I would put our winning a chance to 50 % at best. I still think it was our best shot, but GM and DropBear however wanted to play on, so we went with majority decision + I was getting busy in RL so suited me fine to die

Setup wise I think you can never let mafia KP=town KP in a game as large as this from the beginning. Would need at least 2 night KP, possible three, depending on the strength of the mafia roles. We lost the game because town had twice our KP in the end game.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:45:34
June 18 2011 21:44 GMT
#3607
Still decon, you can't make it so town KP = mafia KP imo. Not in a game as big as this. No side should have to rely on roles.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#3611
On June 19 2011 06:52 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:44 Barundar wrote:
Still decon, you can't make it so town KP = mafia KP imo. Not in a game as big as this. No side should have to rely on roles.


Not really. 2 mislynches and town would have lost. Look how close mafia came to winning, with town lynching correct on 5/7 lynches. If mafia had 3KP or even 2KP this game could have been a mafia slaughter ending on day 4, especially if bum was able to hit 2-3 people with his bomb.

The problem with games like this is that its really difficult to balance, and with all the KP roles in the game I stand by my decision to give mafia only the 1 KP. Its the DT and listchecks that screwed you guys more than anything else.

Nope, it was unavoidable that town would get a number of confirmed innocents. Town was really, really bad this game, if we hadn't made them kill each others so happily they would have rolled us end game with a few confirmed.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
June 19 2011 10:53 GMT
#3655
Haha best thing about playing mafia is even if you hate each others guts during the game, as soon as it's over everyone is laughing at it.
Bartundar
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