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On June 06 2011 07:38 Mataza wrote:FoS Palmar. He is a known killpower role and uses flimsy reasoning to kill someone he ever accused before. I´ve got enough of this random shooting.  Whoever shoots someone on gut feeling should be shot by someone else. Before people started shooting, we were winning :thumbs Now after all the shooting, we are losing  Anyone who thinks killpower roles are going to save us this game are stupid  If you really must shoot, try shooting the people who claim to be invulnerable like Tnkted or Bum.  If they die, they lied. If they don´t die, they are telling the truth. It´s win - win  Do you really want to keep all this killpower around? We went from 33 people down to 25 in one night.  I will die halfway into this day so we are at 20 people left. And we have exactly 1 hit yet, Wiggles.  1 Hit in 13 dead people is awful. It´s beyond awful And that even though we know 2 other targets that are guaranteed to not be green: Kurumi and Bum  Do you really want to not tell if you made a killpower role? The next one lying dead might be *you*. 
Hey look time to jump on the bandwagon and call the guy that shot the mole scum. He isn't scum he is just bad.
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Rean I'm thinking of masoning you for reasons I think you will know. Do you think I'm town?
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On June 06 2011 08:37 Palmar wrote:
So, we have yet to have anyone claim they created a role that can bus people.
Can we please confirm it? Cause shooting as the town wishes is much easier when I can be sure I won't be redirected.
no you're not frickin shooting. And in no way does nobody claiming a bus role mean there is not a bus role. Like 10 people have died and there's still like 5 mafia...How about you do some analysis/scumhunting and come back with your findings instead of posting useless pointless shit???
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On June 06 2011 08:41 Pandain wrote:
I agree
Lol i must have missed this did you replace someone? 
On June 06 2011 08:42 Palmar wrote:Don't worry, I need 4 fistpounds to shoot, so I don't see it happening  But while we don't know if there is a bus role, I can't shoot anyone I claim to shoot. How about you tell me redFF, who, aside from torte and bum, is scum?
Torte is definite scum. Bum is obviously likely scum at this point. Barundar is lurking like a mofo, could very well be scum. Mataza is scum. Jackal too maybe. Theres the scum team from my point of view. Maybe swap out Barundar for Hiro Protagonist. I'd like to lynch and kill into that list if possible. If anyone disagrees with me please say so. Palmar who do you think is scum??? I'm not the one on trial here I've been actively looking for scum you've been spamming and shooting random townies and in chaos13 you shot one of the most pro-town players in the game.
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Sorry for clarification
bum, mataza, jackal, wiggles, barundar/hiro/eternalmisfit, torte de lini, Varpulis
There's the scumteam from my point of view. I know that's 7 players, maybe take out Jackal or Bum. Don't ask why I think Barundar/hiro/eternalmisfit are scum just let me tell you one of them is scum. I think there are better lynches then Bum today but he's getting lynched, focus on the rest of these people.
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On June 06 2011 08:53 Palmar wrote:Again, my anlysis can befound here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9525385I was wrong on some points (chaos13, varpulis) I was right on some points (bum really did not want to shoot varpulis). Node got killed, we still don't know anything about tnkted. Mataza is still a weird one for me, I have no idea, but I have no problem lynching or shooting him. I think we should get rid of kurumi as fast as possible, he's no good for the town. Obviously I was wrong in my analysis, so I'm getting right back to the drawing board. I didn't feel the discussion during day2 added much value, as Wiggles was such a definite lynch. I will go back through day 2 and the night, to see if I can pick something out.
Hey there man Good Job making one good post in nearly a week of play! Oh and fistpounding makes you vet. kk
##Palmar
There is no reason not to fistpound palmar at this stage town.
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Also i prefer a torte de lini lynch over Bum because Torte de Lini is 100% scum and i'm not so sure Bum is guaranteed scum.
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No palmar. Heres what you do, you shoot at a list. Not the person who is the most obvious, but the person who you think wont be redirected. Jackal, Tnkted, Torte, Barundar/eternal/hiro. As to how I know who is/isn't scum. I have a mason role, I've learnt a lot of shizz over the last 3 days.
I know that one of these 3 is scum:
Barundar/eternal/hiro- If i had to guess I would say Barundar but i'm gonna look over the thread again.
I know that:
Torte is scum
I'm sure that both Bum and Mataza are scum but we will see how they flip I guess.
Jackal is just a gut read.
Just vig torte, jackal or whoever you think is scummiest out of barundar/hiro/eternalmisfit
Don't tell us obv.
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On June 06 2011 09:40 Eternalmisfit wrote:
So we cannot be sure in any way that Palmar is saying the truth or lying. That's what you are saying. In that case, is it good to give him a free KP in case if he is lying or better playing it safe and not blindly believing him?
He shot the mole. Even thought he shot horrifically wrong against choas he atleast had reasons. As long as we give him a list to shoot into he can't do any damage apart from killing scum suspects. Also Eternal why are you so opposed to having him shoot? If you don't think he is town by now you haven't been reading the thread.
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Fuck Jackal that makes sense. I had this weird idea that Palmar couldn't be scum because he killed the mole, but if you look at the role the mole had, and look at what GM did in PYPi i can see why they would have scum kill him for town cred. Makes perfect sense. As i said before a bum lynch is not the best thing to do right now. I like the TORTEDELINI lynch or the PALMAR lynch at this stage. I really would advise you guys to lynch Torte De Lini as he is confirmed scum(he is trust me). If you think I am town lynch Torte De Lini for confirmed scum. I do like the Palmar lynch too tho.
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I would just like to throw out that if Palmar flips scum I can clear a shit ton of people and I will explain why if he is lynched.
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On June 06 2011 13:03 Cthsazsa wrote:
EBWOP:
In fact, I may have to go back and find who all was buying Wiggle's BS.
There's probably a connection between the two.
MATAZA
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On June 07 2011 06:43 Karshe wrote:
Actually, I'll be more specific about my role since I feel like the mafia have higher priority targets tonight.
I do have KP and I am the reason that Mataza has a bomb strapped to him. I am able to plant a bomb at night and they take 48 hours (after the next lynch) to detonate. I don't feel at risk claiming since there are others who have stronger KP than I do.
On Night 1 I attemped to plant a bomb on Varpulis, but when I arrived he was already dead (per our host) and I got my bomb refunded back to me. I don't know if this counts as "visiting" him, but I asked Dec if I lost my bomb and he said no, I kept it since my target had already been killed. I started with 2 bombs and only have 1 left now (after Mataza).
"Why Mataza?" I felt like Bum is an easy lynch, and I felt confident that Torte is scum and will be dying soon. I wanted to target another person I felt to be scum.
I chose someone's role who is still alive and hasn't claimed yet. Been waiting for them to claim to see if they're truthful.
There was absolutely no need to claim. I think you are town and you will now be blocked/killed by scum for revealing you are one of the only townies with kp and one of the only ones who are killing scummy players. That's annoying 
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Stefftastiq is disclosing things to town and helped confirm that WIggles shot Deskcaress. I think he is town.
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I know Palmar is dumb, but saying bumatlarge is not the right lynch is stupid. We lynch Bumatlarge, we make Palmar shoot TDL. Karshe bombs TDL too so we have a backup in case Palmar doesn't listen. TDL not dead in the morning=lynching Palmar. I would like any medic roles on Karshe so his bomb gets off. There simple imo.
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Dont shoot kurumi shoot torte he is scum read my analysis on him and he is actually 100% scum. Kenpachi said I was town before he was replaced so I'd like to think kenpandain have some kind of detective role and are town aligned. Tnkted is w/e we can deal with him later.
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On June 07 2011 11:16 tnkted wrote:Ok, Sorry for lurking everyone. I just got hired at USbank (!!!!!) as an intern and today was my first day. Yesterday was my bro's grad party, and tomorrow I'm going to bonnaroooooooo so I'm requesting a replacement from decon. Regarding Palmar: He exaggerated his role in the beginning of the game. I caught some references while I skimmed through the thread to him claiming his real role, but if he didn't this is what it was: He is the Bro of Destiny. He has no posting restriction (lol, the brostyle was all his idea). He needs to get people to #fistpound him in thread. If he gets 2, he gets a kill. If he gets 4, he gets an extra life at night. 6 and he needs to be triplestacked, etc. Jackal's post about my role is correct. I'm not... heh... actually invulnerable. I'm just lynchproof. I have to vote for somebody that is dead and day1 I had to vote for someone who wasn't playing. I could have voted for Micky Mouse and it would have counted. Now, before I leave you guys ( ) here are my thoughts on people you need to kill and people you need to keep alive: Kill: Torte de Lini for fakeclaiming that he blox GM (the tracker claimed that he watched GM and didn't see anyone visit the night GM claimed he was blox) GM for fakeclaiming that he was blox Redff1 for revealing he knew too much about the fakeblox (ie, that other people were gonna fakeclaim blox) Bumatlarge That's also roughly the order you should do, although you might wanna lynch GM first so he doesn't kill the most important role in the mason circle. Keep alive: Jackal is probably the smartest person left alive right now, medics should protect him or he should be bussed out of harms way, etc. Palmar is on a lot of people's shit lists right now for his bad aim but IMO he is pretty valuable to town; theres a reason I created this role. Sure, its a really really great mafia role but its also absolutely fucking hilarious and I'm a genius for creating it. Also in the hands of a good town its like an invincible vig. He should be top of the DT check list, and if he passes you guys can use him like an extra lynch. And whoever is giving out smiley faces I want to know whats up with that. So far we have Jackal and Bum and Mataza posting them and none of the three have revealed why. Could we be looking at a mason circle? IDK. GL everyone, and sorry I can't keep playing... I'd love to continue my strategy I was pursuing but bonnaroo beckons and I need to go watch the Arcade Fire rock my sox off. PEACE
Haha did you even read the thread? YOu and palmar's claims do not match up. Lol palmar is lying scum or you are lying scum. The tracker DID see torte de lini visit GM and GM DID get blocked. The last day post confirmed GM was blocked by torte de lini lol. I did lol though, so thats something, HAVE FUN AT BONAROO
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hahhahahaha at Mataza thinking i'm scum please give me some evidence apart from "tunneling on you for 2 days". I believe I am playing exactly to my town meta but w/e.
Bum is the correct lynch, TDL has to die tonight, karshe bomb him, palmar shoot him. If TDL isn't dead in the morning Palmar is lynched. Eternal Misfit is scum also and I would recommend a shot on him tonight, NOT BY YOU PALMAR. Medics on Karshe IMO. Gm sacrifice Kurumi again. Everybody just ignore anything Palmar says.
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