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Alright obviously Palmar shoot Barundar.
Dropbear could very well be scum, that's been outline before though.
This is the palmar vote list
bumatlarge
Eternalmisfit
Kurumi
Jackal58
Karshe
GMarshal
Amber[LighT]
Cthsazsa
Rean
hiro protagonist
Karshe (bombed Bum and Mataza-both good shots imo)
GMarshal (quoted Torte, kept trying to kill Kurumi instead of recruiting more people into his mason circle of death, could be SK)
Amber[LighT] (DOne more analysis than some people even though he had to talk like a dog)
Cthsazsa (lurked his way through the game, started getting more active when shit made him look suspicious, not sure how much he has been contributing aside from KARSHE IS SCUM)
Out of these 4 who is scum? I would say Cthsazsa, just my read though. Check into this list though rean (obv) Medics should protect Rean if we have any left. I would suggest a check on Cthsazsa.
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Amber is most likely town, I'll say why if it gets to a point where he looks like he is being lynched.
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Lol@that role description 
Good job guys. I like the Cthasza lynch today for reasons I have stated before
Karshe (bombed Bum and Mataza-both good shots imo)
GMarshal (quoted Torte, kept trying to kill Kurumi instead of recruiting more people into his mason circle of death, could be SK)
Amber[LighT] (DOne more analysis than some people even though he had to talk like a dog)
Cthsazsa (lurked his way through the game, started getting more active when shit made him look suspicious, not sure how much he has been contributing aside from KARSHE IS SCUM)
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Dropbear/GM are the last 2 scum imo. GM busing DB.
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-_- wait are you seriously suggesting I am scum lol? It's just people are going around treating GM like a confirmed townie when he most certainly is not. He lurked like a bitch for the first few days and has come out guns blazing now that he see's scum are in a position to win and he can't survive by lurking and posting shitty shit with no substance. Lynch dropbear obviously, but then shoot GM imo.
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Here is a player list
GMarshal
Palmar
Rean
DropBear
stefftastiq
Amber[LighT]
Karshe
Cthsazsa
redFF
We know there are at least 2 scum left. We also know that we (town) have 1 kp. We can assume that mafia has 1kp. We also know that GM has 1kp.
What else do we know?
2 people on this list are scum
GMarshal
Palmar
Rean
DropBear
stefftastiq
Amber[LighT]
9 players left, 2 scum (I would assume)
We can safely lynch and shoot into this list for the rest of the game and still not lose no? Here is how I recommend we do this.
Today-lynch Dropbear
Tonight-GM sacrifice Stefftastiq, Palmar shoot GM
Tommorow- If GM or Stefftastiq is still alive we lynch them, otherwise, if there is still 1 scum left on that list, we lynch Amber(this won't happen)
If after all that the game isn't over Palmar can shoot Cthazsa, and he can bring karshe with him.
Scum can obviously fuck this up with nightkills but there shots will likely be focused on me/karshe/rean/Cthazsa (basically people not on that vote list). Cthazsa if you die you need to keep a level head and not pull a viscera eyes and shoot into this list
Dropbear
GM
Stefftastiq
Amber
I ordered that for you aswell, shoot the highest person, if they are dead, move down the list.
If anybody has a problem with this plan I am dying to hear it, but then you will lose because all you will be is scum desperately trying to salvage a win.
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Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer?
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On June 14 2011 10:51 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 10:48 redFF wrote:
Ok GM you wanna know why there isn't a framer?
GMarshal -Role confirmed-killed kurumi, steff is in his cult
Palmar -role confirmed
Rean -role confirmed
DropBear -Meapak's death=role confirmed
stefftastiq-All his action spotting has been correct-role confirmed
Amber[LighT] -framer dog???+my rolecheck
Karshe - bombs confirm role
Cthsazsa -role confirmed by other player+my rolecheck
redFF-role confirmed
Who is a framer? Prove there isn't a miller or a godfather, I'll buy the absence of a framer. What rolecheck? I thought you masoned people, not checked their role? Again theres NO WAY decon would allow a list check and no millers + no counters for the mafia, as in that case the mafia has no chance of winning from day 1.
Yeah a game with a votechecker would be imbalanced and unfair for mafia, owait, Decon did balance it, there was a mole!!!!!!!!!
PYP insane had a votechecker and no gf/miller just a mole.
The game has 2 alignment checking roles(3 if you count desk) I really don't think much balancing was done apart from adding in the mole. The mole was the balancing lol, no millers/gf needed.
It's been known I have a rolecheck for a while in the thread.
GM it's weird how as soon as I mention the possibility of you being scum you come at me all guns blazing and call me scum. OMGUS that's called lol. Nice try with the chainsaw defense/huge OMGUS but it won't work. 
So to recap, please tell me how the game would need extra balancing other than a mole. We have established there is no framer and we have now established there are no millers.
As for Rean being scum LOLOLOL.
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Everyone agrees that Dropbear is the lych, no argument there, but then after that the only thing to do is shoot/lynch into that list. I love how your only way to try and stop this plan is saying there are millers and gfs. Sorry GM but you are going to have to die, because we have 2 scum out of a possible 4 and we need to keep killing that 4 until we find the 2 scum. Palmar shoot GM tonight, GM sacrifice Steff. Simple. Rean I suggest a check on Cthazsa, as the list with 2 scum will all be dead by tommorow.
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##Vote GM, so i can get his role, DB is still the lynch
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Rean ignoring your votechecks at this stage when we know you are a dt and your previous list has been correct would be retarded. We have to kill into that list. Amber/GM for other scum probably, but we can't kill them both in one night so tonight Palmar should shoot GM.
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Because GM has KP and Amber doesn't? Mafia didn't kill last night correct? There is one medic role left in the game. There's your reason for mafia not killing lol.
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Palmar who are you shooting tonight?
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How do you know you weren't saved by any hits? Maybe you weren't protected by a typical medic?
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On June 15 2011 03:06 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 02:52 redFF wrote:
How do you know you weren't saved by any hits? Maybe you weren't protected by a typical medic? Disregarding that: do you really think GMarshal would quote TDL day 1, just to possibly gain a little town credit but lose his role?.
Possibly. He could have not known TDL's role, he could have forgotten about it. If you are not taking your own vote list as fact then I dunno why everyone is treating GM like a confirmed townie because of one quote. I quoted TDL too,(wasn't roleblocked tho) am I town because of that? Me not being roleblocked the next day might be a mistake on Decon's part now I think of it.
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On June 15 2011 03:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Rean I'm just ignoring red for now. All he's done and been doing is calling people scum without a good reason and shouting 'IF WE DONT SHOOT THIS LIST WE LOSE".
lol, circumstances have changed. I know you are mad I called you scum yesterday but there is no reason to not listen to me when what I am saying is correct. What reasons do we have not to believe this list? GM is trying to convince everyone it is inaccurate because he knows he is screwed if we just kill into this list and win the game.
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Palmar shoot this scum tonight :D
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lol I think DB is scum too, and I stated why I'm following the lynch ffs. You are just twisting my words and acting like I am obv-scum when I'm not lol. Dropbear is a claimed PGO, and he is in that list of 4 PEOPLE, 2 OF THEM BEING MAFIA. He is scum so we are lynching him lol. You're really fucked now because of that list and these idiots are buying your bullshit about millers and gfs and such. A gf would do jack shit to that list, if there was a gf on it then more of you would be scum not less lol. A miller would fuck it up I agree, BUT WE HAVE NO REASON TO THINK THERE IS A MILLER, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE VOTECHECK OF A FRIGGIN CONFIRMED DT. This is hilarious that people may actually side with you. Palmar ffs you know what to do. Once again all this is is a hardcore OMGUS/chainsaw defense from GM and Votechecks are op but what you gonna do?
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