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kitaman27 *
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May 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#7
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kitaman27 *
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May 10 2011 04:33 GMT
#115
On May 10 2011 13:22 Kavdragon wrote:
Looking forward to playing with Chezniu. Also, should I announce my Mayoral campaign yet?


If you do, the Kavdragon Sucks Party will be back in full force.
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kitaman27 *
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May 12 2011 03:59 GMT
#173
On May 12 2011 12:46 Kenpachi wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 12 2011 11:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:23 Kavdragon wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:12 Node wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:09 tnkted wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:06 Qatol wrote:
/out


On May 12 2011 03:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Actually /out









was looking to see how the most epic mafia players clashed in an epic set up..


That's not possible, you never signed up Kenpachi :p
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
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May 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#187
Happy Birthday ^_^
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 14 2011 01:06 GMT
#233
Here is the plan: I'm going to publicly assign all roles 1-25. You will then pick the appropriate role according to your assignment. Anyone who fails to follow my plan is scum. This is completely pro-town, I swear.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
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May 14 2011 03:19 GMT
#254
On May 14 2011 12:07 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 10:36 GMarshal wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:25 Ace wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:17 GMarshal wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:12 Ace wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:06 GMarshal wrote:
On May 14 2011 10:05 Ace wrote:
here we go again. Assigning roles before people pick. Disaster incoming.


Where exactly does this cause "disaster" to me it looks like it causes accountability for anti-town roles and only for anti-town roles.

Can you explain why its a bad idea? I'd really love to hear your input on this.


accountability? lol did you read the last 3 PYP games?


Yes, yes I did, I fail to see your point, if we know who has the PoD and we go into a double night then we vigi shoot him right off the bat, or lynch him if that isn't an option... Same with the other roles, assuming the plan is actually followed where is the flaw?

And if its not followed what do you propose? Everyone picks whatever they want? I feel like thats going to end with the mafia holding enough powerful roles to roll over us by denying lynches/converting people.


1.) Can't know if your "assigned" roles went to the right person.
2.) Won't know if the role went to town or mafia

For the chance of tying a few people to roles and not alignment you'll be giving Scum information on where the roles went. Lets not forget that unlike any other PYP game the amount of killing roles in this game are pretty high.


1.) *if* we agree to follow the plan then we will, because if they are town they will pick them, in the interest of benefiting the town, and if they are scum they don't want to be caught at a lie. And we'll be able to tell if the power was picked earlier since the person picking it will get vanilla. However I agree that this might be a weakness of the plan, is there any way to remedy it?

2.) It wont matter, if they are town they will never use the role, if they are mafia we will know if it is used, and will be able to kill them for it, thats the reason for assigning the activated anti-town roles to these players, rather than passive anti-town roles, its *really* easy to tell if they've been used.

On these people being killed by the mafia, then those anti-town roles are out of the game, rather than power roles, I dont see the issue with them being focused down.

I can't say I'm comfortable with letting townies pick whatever they want, I feel like thats going to lead to the mafia snagging powerful roles and the town overlapping too much in the role selection.

Still this plan cannot work if the people in those positions don't agree to it, so we should be in agreement before the draft order comes out.


I fell asleep reading this


Don't mind Ace. Its normal for people to start to get senile at his age.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 14 2011 04:07 GMT
#260
This kinda takes the fun out of it, but would everyone agree if it was possible, determining the draft order by randomly assigning numbers would benefit town as it removes the mafia advantage of preventing clashing?

The only problems would be:
1) Coming up with a fair system to "randomly" generate the numbers. I'm sure we could come up with some system that takes a future event like the length of the 1st GSL finals game mod 25 to generate the order.
2) Everyone has to agree to using the random numbers. However, since the draft order is public, we will be able to narrow down who submitted the wrong numbers.

Thoughts?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 14 2011 04:20 GMT
#262
On May 14 2011 13:16 tnkted wrote:
We'll know the draft order publically, ie, everyone will know who got first pick. Inventor will almost certainly be the first role taken.


I mean using random numbers to determine who gets first pick, second pick, ect.

On May 14 2011 13:16 tnkted wrote:
A question: if you got turned into vanilla, is it a good idea to claim? it would mean that that role is confirmed in the game, which would make a serious difference to town play if you claimed to try to get traitor or politician or something.


Generally no, unless you have good reason to.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 15 2011 01:14 GMT
#331
Thoughts on the set-up:
Detective roles are nice and all, but it seems to me the real strength for town lies in the kp roles: CPR doc, inventor, NRA Member, etc.

Inventor is the most powerful role if used correctly. Whoever receives this role should be required to follow the word of the town and name the invention in a way so its use cannot be up for interpretation.

The priest is being underestimated as a mafia role. People seem to be ignoring the fact that not only does it resurrect, it can also recharge. Imagine the following situation:

Day One/Day Two: Vote Rig when necessary to kill the town's most powerful role
Night Two/Day Three: Vote rigger is identified and killed/lynched (being optimistic)
Night Three: Resurrection beings
Night Four: vote rigger returns
Day Five: Vote rigged again to kill towns most powerful remaining role
Night Five/Day Six: Vote rigger killed a second time.

In exchange for a mafia and a clue, the mafia team has successfully wasted four lynches/kp and sniped two town. This assumes that the priest is able to survive the resurrection, but knowing our luck with clues in past games, its not that big of a stretch.

I'm proposing a blacklist that will result in the lynch of anyone who selects it. The roles that should be on this list are up to debate, but here is a start:

Agent of Chaos
Admiral Akbar
Prince o Darkness
Mafia VIII Traitor
Pardoner
Caller Godfather
Mafia XII Godfather
Copy Cat
Janitor
Framer
Politician/America/Kingsmaker?

I'm also thinking any lynch evading abilities should also be blacklisted. If you're going to be lynched there is probably a reason for it so that includes:

PYP 3 Veteran
Hero

On May 14 2011 13:30 Incognito wrote:
List of invisible posters:

GMarshal
Kitaman27
tnkted


Lets play nice
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 15 2011 04:29 GMT
#349
On May 15 2011 13:12 Node wrote:
I picked [9][1]. I guess I'm not the only one who likes lucky number 9.


Mission success. Node has been denied. I was [9][1] as well.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 15 2011 16:37 GMT
#387
There are an awful lot of people are are content to pm their numbers and sit back without commenting on the set-up.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 15 2011 17:26 GMT
#393
On May 16 2011 02:16 Radfield wrote:
I'd like to hear what kind of stuff you think is more useful for an inventor who's alignment is unknown. Any invention made will show up in the day post, so it has to be something unambiguously pro-town, or the inventor will get lynched. This happened in PYP1, when the inventor made a cel phone. His intention was to start a PM circle, but a cel phone can be used for other purposes, like detonating a bomb for instance. Bulletproof vests are great, as they are unambiguous in their purpose, and benefit town much more than mafia(assuming the inventor is mafia-aligned).


Bulletproof vests that explode when given to mafia?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 15 2011 20:36 GMT
#413
On May 16 2011 03:24 Fishball wrote:
I like an item that reveals the number of moles in the game, the only unknown variable.


We know there are six mafia in total so 4+2, 5+1, or 6+0 doesn't really seem all that helpful.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 16 2011 23:31 GMT
#568
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above

He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 16 2011 23:47 GMT
#572
On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above

He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.



Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.


Is this where we're supposed to say "don't lynch him, he's the village idiot!"?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 16 2011 23:59 GMT
#576
On May 17 2011 08:55 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 08:49 infinitestory wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:47 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above

He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.



Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.


Is this where we're supposed to say "don't lynch him, he's the village idiot!"?

sounds more like unabated apathy to me

Deconduo, did you ask for an extreme anti-town role like you said you would?



It could also be journalist. Although I doubt it this early in the game.


Are you saying the mafia decided to frame deconduo, pm Ver the phrase, Ver pms deconduo what to say, and deconduo posts all within about 10 minutes?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 17 2011 00:18 GMT
#585
On May 17 2011 09:16 Kavdragon wrote:
My gut reaction is to call Decon's bluff and lynch him. I think that he's obviously implying that he's the village idiot, but I doubt that he actually is. More likely he's mafia just trying to avoid a day one lynch.

That being said, I think that the more reasonable course of action is to ignore him for now.


Say one thing, do the other?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 17 2011 10:55 GMT
#667
To all the people who believe deconduo's vanilla town claim. How does that make sense? He is not playing a unmotivated town, he is trolling. I think its pretty clear he is playing the "I'm the village idiot card". So how do we treat this? Since the game doesn't end after a VI lynch, there is little difference between lynching him and night hitting him. He clearly has no intent to help town and if we allow him to survive he may use a VI WIFOM argument in the future when he continues to act scummy.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 17 2011 22:28 GMT
#713
On May 18 2011 06:49 Foolishness wrote:
Seems to me deconduo is an obvious green (or village idiot).


Could you elaborate what makes you think he is obvious green? VI perhaps, but what makes you think he green?

He wants us to lynch him because "he thinks he is the mole". He feels as a vanilla, it would be most useful if he were lynched. He has provided no attempt to help town. Are you guys inferring deconduo is the type of person that would rage quit the game because he didn't get the role he wanted?
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 18 2011 00:02 GMT
#742
On May 18 2011 08:59 Fishball wrote:
For shits and giggles, I talked to BC on MSN and gave him my incomplete-preliminary Mafia list. I'll be sure to brag after the game if I get anything right, *cough*.


I don't trust BC. You should share your list with us instead.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 18 2011 00:49 GMT
#765
Why are you all assuming the Mafia 2 Detective is town? Think of the mess we will get into if a scum detective gets us running in circles after providing false numbers. This kind of information is a novelty at best.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 18 2011 02:00 GMT
#776
Sigh this is a mess how spread out the votes are. If nobody wants to lynch deconduo today, I hope someone shoots or checks him tonight. Switching to Barundar.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 18 2011 22:39 GMT
#886
Yesterday there were 8 people on hopeless lynch candidates with 2 votes or less. The lynch was decided by one vote. I would like to hear from some of these people on why they felt their vote should be thrown away. Not surprisingly, most of these people also lurked pretty hard on day one.

deconduo, Fishball, Kurumi, Eiii, Mr. Wiggles, Scamp, OriginalName, tnkted

Also, there should be more discussion about the inventor. We shouldn't give free reign to the power roles to do whatever they feel like. So far the two most popular suggestions have been bulletproof vests and vote checking kits. If a vote checking kit was to be created, town should inform which group to use it on so we don't have overlap. Like I said before, no ambiguous names should be tolerated. If we see a "potato" in the night post rather than "A bomb that only blows up when given to mafia", then the inventor should be strongly considered as a lynch candidate.

P.S. Deconduo is pretty much confirmed anti-town (VI or scum). Someone shoot him tonight.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 18 2011 23:10 GMT
#888
On May 19 2011 08:03 deconduo wrote:
So, why has decon been playing strangely? To catch scum. Here's the fun thing, townies will think I could be scum or VI, whereas mafia would think I'm almost certainly VI. They know I can't be mafia and that is their downfall.

If you look at the people pushing for me to get lynched I would guess its nearly all townies. Mafia would want someone else lynched as lynching me doesn't help them at all. They would be pushing for me to get shot during the night.

I would be pretty sure from how he reacted that kitaman is mafia. I'd be suspicious of FW and Chezinu, and maybe Dreamflower. Kavdragon and Node are almost certainly town. Maybe Eiii as well.


For reference, I attempted to pick Bulletproof but it was already taken. I feel like this information benefits mafia more than town, but as people are pushing for me to reveal it...


Another troll post. Pew Pew.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 19 2011 00:51 GMT
#907
On May 19 2011 09:28 Incognito wrote:
kitaman, please tell me why deconduo is confirmed anti-town


-He is trolling
-He wants us to lynch him because he thinks he is the mole.
-He provides no insight on the set-up nor contributes on day one, but promises to be pro-town in the future.
-He feels his most useful purpose is to be lynched because he did not get bulletproof, a role he claims to have selected because it is fun.
-He admits to purposely acting scummy in order to "catch scum".
-He contradicts himself in his most recent post

Do you feel otherwise?

On May 19 2011 09:21 Foolishness wrote:
I would put $100 on there not being any vote checks tonight. I'd also put $500 on Inventor not inventing a vote check kit or a bullet proof vest.


Do you have a better suggestion?

I guess it depends on how powerful the items are allowed to be. For example, is he allowed to create a phoenix down that could revive kav? Can he invent a voting machine that allows the owner to rig the next lynch?

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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 20 2011 01:45 GMT
#1076
Does the king's lynch occur at the end of the day or is it like a day vig, as the description suggests?

If Wiggles can lynch part way through the day cycle, we will have a lot more information to go with to help determine the real lynch. Flamewheel's reaction to being shot was a bit odd. Logically if he is town, a mafia CPR doc would be my first thought. Caller, the person most likely with a kp, isn't really getting much attention and he is keeping quiet for the most part. I'm surprised everyone is so sold on him being town. It seems like everyone wants to lynch into Kav's group, which I'm not opposed to, but someone that should be on everyone's radar is Foolishness:

On May 16 2011 09:55 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 09:48 Radfield wrote:
On May 16 2011 09:01 Foolishness wrote:
These plans for the top 5-8 players to pick roles is retarded in it's current form.

If flamewheel/Caller/whoever don't agree to take their designated role (assuming we have a consensus on what roles they should take) we need to lynch them, no questions asked. What's to stop Scamp for all of a sudden posting "hey guys, I'm going to take Hero or Assassin (or whatever role he might want) sorry"? Are you just going to shift down the important role list even further? Yawn. Waste of time.

People are going to pick whatever they want to pick. I'm not opposed to general guidelines, such as town should focus on DT related roles or survival roles, whatever, but assigning roles to the top 5 players is just silly. If you are going to go that route, we should have everyone claim as soon as the picks are out. Either everyone should claim or no one should claim (that includes assigning roles before the picks). Nothing in between.



No one should claim. Any plans laid out are for pre-selection only. Once the actual role selection takes place, no one should tell anyone anything about their role. The only exception is if the information you might reveal is very beneficial to town.

Having said this, I almost guarantee a few people will state they got a role, or got vanilla, or whatever. I really hope not though.

Okay so, we tell people which role to take now, but after the picking we pretend that discussion never happened?


On May 16 2011 09:57 Foolishness wrote:
WAIT! I FIGURED IT OUT!

You're going to pick the editor and as soon as game starts you're going to edit all your posts out! That way mafia can't see what roles people took, but you will still know!

Brilliant!


On May 17 2011 05:57 Foolishness wrote:
Just so I can be better prepared...what's step 3?


On May 17 2011 10:24 Foolishness wrote:
Can we stop semi-claiming roles now?


On May 19 2011 09:21 Foolishness wrote:
I would put $100 on there not being any vote checks tonight. I'd also put $500 on Inventor not inventing a vote check kit or a bullet proof vest.


-He is posting sarcastic one-liners that are borderline spam, which is uncharacteristic of his playstyle. His most recent post was an absolutely useless update of the numbers list with scamp and kav's roles included. To top it all off, this is his reasoning for voting incognito:

On May 17 2011 04:48 Foolishness wrote:
This game the rest of his posts are mostly one liners. Particularly, he got really quiet after the draft order and picking. He's clearly got something to hide that he doesn't want the town to know about.


-Rather than contributing his own opinions, he is complaining about those of others. He is pushing his views half-halfheartedly and is repeatedly saying empty statements like "Let's hunt scum!" or "Don't rely on blues!"

On May 19 2011 12:05 Foolishness wrote:
If nobody else is going to try to do some normal, mafia analysis, we might as well just throw in the towel now.
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May 20 2011 23:11 GMT
#1183
Wiggles, will you be around to use your kill at least three hours before the lynch? That should give us enough time to switch based on the results. I would suggest lynching into the kav group.
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#1193
On May 21 2011 09:18 Radfield wrote:
Reading that analysis of KillerSOS makes me think he just terrible, and not scum at all. However, I've certainly played with players on my scum-team who posted like that.

I think we should shoot Killer, and vote normally. We get very little info from a KillerSOS vote, regardless of flip. We get all sorts of info from a Incog/Node vote no matter what.


You are contradicting yourself. If you believe the Incog/Node flip would give more information than a Killer flip, why shoot Killer first? Wouldn't it be better the other way around?
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May 21 2011 00:55 GMT
#1212
Does it even matter if killer is the tracker or not?

Roles != Alignment
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#1221
*Pokes Wiggles

Shot within the hour? If Ver isn't around then we might have to wait longer than expected.
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May 21 2011 01:28 GMT
#1223
On May 21 2011 10:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
*Pokes Wiggles

Shot within the hour? If Ver isn't around then we might have to wait longer than expected.


Sure, I'm just trying to figure out who to shoot. :p


Don't worry, we're only going to lynch you when you're wrong. No pressure.
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May 21 2011 03:07 GMT
#1261
Sigh. Don't suppose we can get a mass switch on deconduo? -_-
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May 21 2011 03:12 GMT
#1264
If the priest resurrects ON and he then gets shot, will you revoke his win?
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May 21 2011 14:16 GMT
#1363
First things first. tnkted I'm assuming you're going to claim you didn't choose to select the busdriver?

Also, can we get a confirmation that this isn't how the politician works and in a hypothetical situation that it was a bus, would it carry over into the night cycle?

On May 14 2011 11:56 tnkted wrote:
I really really want the bus driver role. I can bug him until I get what I want! Do you guys realize how quick it is to fill up an inbox with 100+ messages when you use an automator?

I will bus myself again. >

jkjk, happy birthday! I do want bus driver though.


As for Node's inventor item, do we agree that he should provide GMarshal a protective item? If GMarshal ends up dead, then we know to who to lynch, unless anyone sees a flaw in the plan?

Chezinu should be the target of night shots.
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May 21 2011 22:59 GMT
#1386
On May 22 2011 07:56 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 07:30 deconduo wrote:
If I die tonight, read my posts. Theres method to my madness, seriously.

And FOS kitaman, probably worth a lynch.


I agree with the FOS. Kitaman hasn't shown himself to be on the town's side at all.


Right, take the side of the guy pretending to be the village idiot. By the way, are you agreeing to protect GMarshal tonight or are you going to keep town in the dark and do your own thing like the last inventor?
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May 22 2011 01:03 GMT
#1390
On May 22 2011 08:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 22 2011 07:56 Node wrote:
On May 22 2011 07:30 deconduo wrote:
If I die tonight, read my posts. Theres method to my madness, seriously.

And FOS kitaman, probably worth a lynch.


I agree with the FOS. Kitaman hasn't shown himself to be on the town's side at all.


Right, take the side of the guy pretending to be the village idiot. By the way, are you agreeing to protect GMarshal tonight or are you going to keep town in the dark and do your own thing like the last inventor?
W
Well Kita you did pop up three minutes after someone seconded a call against you so you have been reading the thread. Mind telling us why you haven't been posting? What do you think of Ace vs Incog/Radfield? Who do you think is scum? Why? Who do you think is town? Why?


Hmm? I've been posting. As stated before Chez, Deconduo, and Foolishness are my top scum suspects. Radfield I have a town read for his decisive pro-town posting. Incog has been a pretty big distraction, but I'm not sold on him being scum. With the bus driver in play, he better not be nuking tomorrow. Ace I don't have a read one way or the other.

As for Node, it doesn't really matter to me if think I'm scum or not, but if you try to come up with some excuse why you decided not to save GMarshal, then I'm pushing for you.
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May 22 2011 01:49 GMT
#1394
...The Assassin? Your posts have been awful nooby this game tnkted :/
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May 22 2011 04:26 GMT
#1433
3 kp? Was one of them a town vig?
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May 22 2011 05:21 GMT
#1442
2/6 are scum

Caller, Incognito, Chezinu, GMarshal, Node, flamewheel

Guess where that leaves us.
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May 22 2011 06:02 GMT
#1446
It should also be noted that CPR doc fell all the way to #20. Seems likely that they knew it wasn't being taken at #3. I wonder if he is the PYP3 Vet or Hero -_-
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#1470
On May 22 2011 21:42 Caller wrote:
Back before roles, I had mentioned how I had no intention of following Radfield's list and instead would take the most troll role possible. Mafia knew that they can therefore snag CPR Doc and get a couple of free kills with it. They then put the CPR doc in the same votelist with me and frame someone on that list, knowing that Kavdragon was not mafia and therefore anyone on that list would be scummy.


So you took the most troll role possible with the number 3 pick, while allowing the mafia to snag the CPR Doc? mmk.

On May 22 2011 21:42 Caller wrote:
Like look at the most recent check that GMarshal just did. Assuming he's not lying, there is one mafia in the incognito list from day 1. By process of elimination, since I know I'm not mafia and I'm pretty sure there's a frame, there are at least four mafia hiding in the other areas. I doubt more than one mafia would stick his nose out by putting his vote on a single person, so let's say instead there are at least 3 mafia in the other lists. That means that of these people:

Show nested quote +
BARUNDAR (5): Radfield, bumatlarge, dreamflower, kitaman27, KillerSOS

MR. WIGGLES (2): Kavdragon, tnkted


there are at least 3 mafia.

Kavdragon and KillerSOS are dead and both are town. We have 3 in 5 of the following as scum:

Show nested quote +
Radfield, bumatlarge, dreamflower (Ziphh), kitaman27, tnkted


Anybody look like potential suspects? Maybe? I'll write a detailed analysis about these guys in a bit, so even if you do decide to lynch me we'll have somewhere to start tonight and the days after.


I suggest everyone read over this math.

Apparently the assumption that 4 mafia were not on incog/kav implies 3 mafia were on barundar. There is absolutely no logic backing up this accusation. Furthermore, he completely omits all of the players who were single votes. Do they not count, or did you fuzzy math come to the conclusion that there must be 1 mafia in this list? This is garbage.

On May 18 2011 15:52 Ver wrote:
Day 1 final vote Tally


GMARSHAL (1): deconduo

CHEZINU (1): Fishball

FISHBALL (1): Kurumi

DECONDUO (1): Eiii

SCAMP (1): Mr. Wiggles

ORIGINALNAME (1): Scamp





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May 22 2011 18:38 GMT
#1477
On May 23 2011 02:59 Ace wrote:
3.) Barundar is dead and flipped town

No one has talked about his role flip, but the more important fact here is that almost all the top picks have been eliminated along with the Inventor. Only Caller and Radfield have survived among the top 5, with GM being "explained" already. These 2 were not hit for a reason, and I'm inclined to believe that Radfield being alive is more suspicious as his Bulletproof is now a nice excuse for not being night hit. Also note that Barundar had 5 votes on him, flipped town, and 4 of those suspects are still alive. The only one that died was KillerSOS who got lynched due to a crap train.


Also, does no one find it suspicious that deconduo picked bulletproof? The same logic that gives radfield a nice excuse for not being night hit could be applied to the motives behind deconduo's selection. Just because he is vanilla, doesn't mean he is vanilla town.
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#1481
On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
So we have the 5 categories-4 candidates for lynching, as well as a general "others" category. There are 6 mafia. Mafia would split their votes accordingly. So there's one mafia on Incognito list, 1 on Kavdragon List. I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that there's only one in the "others" category as well. That kind of narrows it down, doesn't it?


Why is this a pretty reasonable assumption? You're treating it as fact, when it is clearly speculation.

On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
You cleverly tried to hide the fact that I took two different candidates as including 3 and removed dead people to result in 3 in 5. Instead, you generalized my argument as "oh there are 3 mafia on one list" which I agree is pretty unlikely. That's not what happened, though, isn't it? its 3 mafia out of 2 lists, and they have kindly whittled it down fro 7 to 5 people. Tntked obviously stands out, and I'm curious as to why you'd cover up for him in your argument by totally ignoring him from consideration.


I didn't cleverly hide anything. I pointed out you created a list of your own choosing and said "look 3 mafia here!"

On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 23:16 kitaman27 wrote:
First things first. tnkted I'm assuming you're going to claim you didn't choose to select the busdriver?

Also, can we get a confirmation that this isn't how the politician works and in a hypothetical situation that it was a bus, would it carry over into the night cycle?

On May 14 2011 11:56 tnkted wrote:
I really really want the bus driver role. I can bug him until I get what I want! Do you guys realize how quick it is to fill up an inbox with 100+ messages when you use an automator?

I will bus myself again. >

jkjk, happy birthday! I do want bus driver though.


As for Node's inventor item, do we agree that he should provide GMarshal a protective item? If GMarshal ends up dead, then we know to who to lynch, unless anyone sees a flaw in the plan?

Chezinu should be the target of night shots.


and

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 22 2011 07:56 Node wrote:
On May 22 2011 07:30 deconduo wrote:
If I die tonight, read my posts. Theres method to my madness, seriously.

And FOS kitaman, probably worth a lynch.


I agree with the FOS. Kitaman hasn't shown himself to be on the town's side at all.


Right, take the side of the guy pretending to be the village idiot. By the way, are you agreeing to protect GMarshal tonight or are you going to keep town in the dark and do your own thing like the last inventor?


and

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:
3 kp? Was one of them a town vig?


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
*Pokes Wiggles

Shot within the hour? If Ver isn't around then we might have to wait longer than expected.


Are you trying to say these posts are scummy? I see a vig shot declaration on Chez, pointing out that tnkted was thinking about selecting the bus driver role, and pressuring Node to protect GMarshal in order to scare off a mafia hit.

On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
To top it off, you respond to my argument that I'm pretty sure nailed you and the rest of your scummy team by making a straw man argument and then criticizing it. No shit my argument looks weak when you put it like that, anybody would agree its a weak argument the way you just shoved out most of the information and reasoning and content.


Wow, you nailed the entire scum team? Bravo.
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#1484
Also, what ever happened to the rose colored glasses? Did they fall into mafia hands or did they turn out to be completely useless?
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#1493
Cool.
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May 22 2011 19:39 GMT
#1505
Bum lied about his watcher claim.
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#1517
On May 23 2011 04:53 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 04:52 infinitestory wrote:
GM, were you indeed targeted and saved? You should have gotten a notification if so.


No. Now lynch that lying scum. I would have immediately claimed had I taken a hit.


He didn't say you took at hit, did he?
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#1521
On May 23 2011 04:55 Caller wrote:
And Radfield, even though I'd love to say you're clear because of your bulletproof, that shit ain't gonna fly if you the godfather. If I were the godfather I'd pick bulletproof. Know why? Because I'll never get hit. Who would toss a night hit on a bulletproof?


Then how did deconduo know that Radfield selected bulletproof as his godfather role? Are you implying that they are scum buddies or was that just a lucky guess? This accusation is silly.
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#1523
On May 23 2011 04:57 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 04:55 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:53 GMarshal wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:52 infinitestory wrote:
GM, were you indeed targeted and saved? You should have gotten a notification if so.


No. Now lynch that lying scum. I would have immediately claimed had I taken a hit.


He didn't say you took at hit, did he?

LOOK AT THIS SCUM POS TRYING TO DEFEND HIS BEST FRIEND

he knows that once tnktd flips that he done. He real done.

kill kita tonight pls


So I'm scum because I point out a flaw in logic?

What is your role? You clearly aren't going to get night hit any time soon so why are you so focused on hiding your claim?
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May 22 2011 20:01 GMT
#1525
On May 23 2011 04:59 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:55 Caller wrote:
And Radfield, even though I'd love to say you're clear because of your bulletproof, that shit ain't gonna fly if you the godfather. If I were the godfather I'd pick bulletproof. Know why? Because I'll never get hit. Who would toss a night hit on a bulletproof?


Then how did deconduo know that Radfield selected bulletproof as his godfather role? Are you implying that they are scum buddies or was that just a lucky guess? This accusation is silly.

why not you silly man

you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper. why don't you take a line from your own handbook and sleep with the fishes, scum


Role claim?
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May 22 2011 20:07 GMT
#1527
On May 23 2011 05:05 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 05:01 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:59 Caller wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:55 Caller wrote:
And Radfield, even though I'd love to say you're clear because of your bulletproof, that shit ain't gonna fly if you the godfather. If I were the godfather I'd pick bulletproof. Know why? Because I'll never get hit. Who would toss a night hit on a bulletproof?


Then how did deconduo know that Radfield selected bulletproof as his godfather role? Are you implying that they are scum buddies or was that just a lucky guess? This accusation is silly.

why not you silly man

you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper. why don't you take a line from your own handbook and sleep with the fishes, scum


Role claim?

i'm not gonna roleclaim to scum. Don't need to give you guys more information than you already have. Once we kill you guys off and we start boiling down to the finish then I'll happily give up my last vestiges of information.

Or you guys could, you know, hit me tonight. Would save me the trouble of proving my own damn innocence.


Fine don't role claim to scum. Role claim to the rest of town, because they certainly don't buy your story of selecting a troll roll either.
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#1540
On May 23 2011 06:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Now as for the rest of the mafia. Kita is one of them, I've been suspicious of him for a while now and the vote checks just helped confirm that. The rest of the mafia are in this pool of people.

Ace, Chaoser, Mr. Wiggles, Foolishness, or Eiii.

Out of these people I'm inclined to say the mafia is Ace, Chaoser, and Foolishness.


I'm not sure what vote checking lists you are looking at, but I fail to see how the vote check helps confirm I am scum. Assuming tnkted is scum, there is 1 scum out of the 7 remaining. How does the vote check confirm your argument? In addition, assuming there have been no covers, only one of Ace, chaoser and Foolishness is mafia. Did you even read the vote checks?
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May 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#1553
Sigh you didn't use your night check last night and now you want to die? Why not sub out?
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May 23 2011 11:09 GMT
#1562
Should we even be discussing alignment checks with the potential Framer and Godframer in play? I would rather trust the detectives to do what they think best and keep mafia in the dark. I'm also surprised more people aren't pushing Caller to role claim.
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May 23 2011 22:27 GMT
#1585
On May 24 2011 07:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 06:45 Kurumi wrote:
Infinitestory checked by parity cop,got king'd...
does that mean?
##Explode Infinitestory
FOR UNIDEN
DAYJ MADE ME DO IT

Please tell me you didn't just kill IS...


Looks like scum is going for a 3:1 trade.
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#1587
On May 24 2011 07:46 Radfield wrote:
Killing IS would be fantastic for the parity cop. He would know IS's alignment, and become a normal cop(assuming that no one he has investigated has died).


Indeed. Fantastic, if he wasn't just suicide bombed for visiting IS. :/
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#1595
On May 24 2011 07:56 Radfield wrote:
eiii, kitiman and kurumi. If we assume that one of you is scum, and the other two green, I'd like to hear which you think it is.

Eiii, is Kitaman or Kurumi the scum?
Kitaman, is Eiii or Kurumi the scum?
Kurumi, is Kitaman or Eiii the scum?


Err trick question? Looks like Kurumi the Akbar.

On May 24 2011 04:11 Foolishness wrote:
At any rate, the police radio confirmed that we got a lot of DT related roles out there, I don't think we should be exactly pressed for figuring out all the mafia tonight. With CPR doctor gone seems at worst the mafia can kill 2 of those roles (but probably only one will die).


Of course, no need to scum hunt tonight! Lets save it for another time.
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#1607
On May 24 2011 10:37 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2011 07:56 Radfield wrote:
eiii, kitiman and kurumi. If we assume that one of you is scum, and the other two green, I'd like to hear which you think it is.

Eiii, is Kitaman or Kurumi the scum?
Kitaman, is Eiii or Kurumi the scum?
Kurumi, is Kitaman or Eiii the scum?


Foolishness, lets say that GM's Incog vote-list is accurate. Which out of Bum, Chaoser or Ace do you think is the mafia?

Chaoser was one of my top suspects day 1, and hasn't done anything to make me change my mind.


As one of your top suspects, you've done rather little to get him shot or lynched.
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#1609
On May 24 2011 10:40 Foolishness wrote:
Numbers tell us to start killing at the top of the list.


Names?
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May 24 2011 01:47 GMT
#1612
On May 24 2011 10:42 Foolishness wrote:
Caller, Radfield, Chaoser.


A while ago you called deconduo obvious green. Could you explain your views on him for me?
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#1664
I'll always be here for you baby.

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#1727
On May 25 2011 19:53 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.

##Vote: Caller

Now would be a good time to claim.


Did you make a check last night?
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#1743
On May 26 2011 05:57 Radfield wrote:
If Caller is the NRA member, than he would have killed the first person to visit him last night, AND shown up as vanilla to a role check. It seems likely that Wiggles would have tried to check Caller and died, leaving Chaoser free to check him and get back the vanilla result.


This would also explain why he was so resistant to role claim yesterday.
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#1745
Assuming there is a mole.
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#1760
On May 26 2011 17:53 bumatlarge wrote:
Foolishness is obvious because of his connections with ace and what not, but I wouldn't say he has been scummy. Kita has been mostly a nonfactor this game, totally lurkish. Maybe I just haven't been paying close attention, but he seems like a good mole candidate.


I pointed out to the thread that tnkted claimed to be picking the busdriver, which led to his alignment check. I was the first person to call out Caller when everyone else was convinced he was town. I also was one of the few people who tried to push Calller for a role claim. How am I a good mole candidate?

GM should use his alignment vote check. Role checks won't be much help at this point.
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May 27 2011 10:36 GMT
#1798
On May 27 2011 15:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Better just tackle the elephant in the room. Foolishness, kita and I are really the only unconfirmed people left at this point. The only thing I know is that I'm neither mole nor mafia so that leaves the other two. My gut says kita.


What? When did the entire town suddenly get confirmed? Just because I haven't roll claimed, doesn't narrow down the mole suspects to two people. You're not making sense.

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On May 20 2011 10:45 kitaman27 wrote:
Logically if he is town, a mafia CPR doc would be my first thought. Caller, the person most likely with a kp, isn't really getting much attention and he is keeping quiet for the most part. I'm surprised everyone is so sold on him being town.


On May 22 2011 14:21 kitaman27 wrote:
2/6 are scum

Caller, Incognito, Chezinu, GMarshal, Node, flamewheel

Guess where that leaves us.


On May 23 2011 01:48 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 22 2011 21:42 Caller wrote:
Back before roles, I had mentioned how I had no intention of following Radfield's list and instead would take the most troll role possible. Mafia knew that they can therefore snag CPR Doc and get a couple of free kills with it. They then put the CPR doc in the same votelist with me and frame someone on that list, knowing that Kavdragon was not mafia and therefore anyone on that list would be scummy.


So you took the most troll role possible with the number 3 pick, while allowing the mafia to snag the CPR Doc? mmk.

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On May 22 2011 21:42 Caller wrote:
Like look at the most recent check that GMarshal just did. Assuming he's not lying, there is one mafia in the incognito list from day 1. By process of elimination, since I know I'm not mafia and I'm pretty sure there's a frame, there are at least four mafia hiding in the other areas. I doubt more than one mafia would stick his nose out by putting his vote on a single person, so let's say instead there are at least 3 mafia in the other lists. That means that of these people:

BARUNDAR (5): Radfield, bumatlarge, dreamflower, kitaman27, KillerSOS

MR. WIGGLES (2): Kavdragon, tnkted


there are at least 3 mafia.

Kavdragon and KillerSOS are dead and both are town. We have 3 in 5 of the following as scum:

Radfield, bumatlarge, dreamflower (Ziphh), kitaman27, tnkted


Anybody look like potential suspects? Maybe? I'll write a detailed analysis about these guys in a bit, so even if you do decide to lynch me we'll have somewhere to start tonight and the days after.


I suggest everyone read over this math.

Apparently the assumption that 4 mafia were not on incog/kav implies 3 mafia were on barundar. There is absolutely no logic backing up this accusation. Furthermore, he completely omits all of the players who were single votes. Do they not count, or did you fuzzy math come to the conclusion that there must be 1 mafia in this list? This is garbage.

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On May 18 2011 15:52 Ver wrote:
Day 1 final vote Tally


GMARSHAL (1): deconduo

CHEZINU (1): Fishball

FISHBALL (1): Kurumi

DECONDUO (1): Eiii

SCAMP (1): Mr. Wiggles

ORIGINALNAME (1): Scamp







On May 23 2011 03:48 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
So we have the 5 categories-4 candidates for lynching, as well as a general "others" category. There are 6 mafia. Mafia would split their votes accordingly. So there's one mafia on Incognito list, 1 on Kavdragon List. I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that there's only one in the "others" category as well. That kind of narrows it down, doesn't it?


Why is this a pretty reasonable assumption? You're treating it as fact, when it is clearly speculation.

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On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
You cleverly tried to hide the fact that I took two different candidates as including 3 and removed dead people to result in 3 in 5. Instead, you generalized my argument as "oh there are 3 mafia on one list" which I agree is pretty unlikely. That's not what happened, though, isn't it? its 3 mafia out of 2 lists, and they have kindly whittled it down fro 7 to 5 people. Tntked obviously stands out, and I'm curious as to why you'd cover up for him in your argument by totally ignoring him from consideration.


I didn't cleverly hide anything. I pointed out you created a list of your own choosing and said "look 3 mafia here!"

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On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
On May 21 2011 23:16 kitaman27 wrote:
First things first. tnkted I'm assuming you're going to claim you didn't choose to select the busdriver?

Also, can we get a confirmation that this isn't how the politician works and in a hypothetical situation that it was a bus, would it carry over into the night cycle?

On May 14 2011 11:56 tnkted wrote:
I really really want the bus driver role. I can bug him until I get what I want! Do you guys realize how quick it is to fill up an inbox with 100+ messages when you use an automator?

I will bus myself again. >

jkjk, happy birthday! I do want bus driver though.


As for Node's inventor item, do we agree that he should provide GMarshal a protective item? If GMarshal ends up dead, then we know to who to lynch, unless anyone sees a flaw in the plan?

Chezinu should be the target of night shots.


and

On May 22 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 22 2011 07:56 Node wrote:
On May 22 2011 07:30 deconduo wrote:
If I die tonight, read my posts. Theres method to my madness, seriously.

And FOS kitaman, probably worth a lynch.


I agree with the FOS. Kitaman hasn't shown himself to be on the town's side at all.


Right, take the side of the guy pretending to be the village idiot. By the way, are you agreeing to protect GMarshal tonight or are you going to keep town in the dark and do your own thing like the last inventor?


and

On May 22 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:
3 kp? Was one of them a town vig?


On May 21 2011 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
*Pokes Wiggles

Shot within the hour? If Ver isn't around then we might have to wait longer than expected.


Are you trying to say these posts are scummy? I see a vig shot declaration on Chez, pointing out that tnkted was thinking about selecting the bus driver role, and pressuring Node to protect GMarshal in order to scare off a mafia hit.

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On May 23 2011 03:07 Caller wrote:
To top it off, you respond to my argument that I'm pretty sure nailed you and the rest of your scummy team by making a straw man argument and then criticizing it. No shit my argument looks weak when you put it like that, anybody would agree its a weak argument the way you just shoved out most of the information and reasoning and content.


Wow, you nailed the entire scum team? Bravo.


On May 23 2011 04:59 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 23 2011 04:57 Caller wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:55 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:53 GMarshal wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:52 infinitestory wrote:
GM, were you indeed targeted and saved? You should have gotten a notification if so.


No. Now lynch that lying scum. I would have immediately claimed had I taken a hit.


He didn't say you took at hit, did he?

LOOK AT THIS SCUM POS TRYING TO DEFEND HIS BEST FRIEND

he knows that once tnktd flips that he done. He real done.

kill kita tonight pls


So I'm scum because I point out a flaw in logic?

What is your role? You clearly aren't going to get night hit any time soon so why are you so focused on hiding your claim?


On May 23 2011 05:07 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 23 2011 05:05 Caller wrote:
On May 23 2011 05:01 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:59 Caller wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 23 2011 04:55 Caller wrote:
And Radfield, even though I'd love to say you're clear because of your bulletproof, that shit ain't gonna fly if you the godfather. If I were the godfather I'd pick bulletproof. Know why? Because I'll never get hit. Who would toss a night hit on a bulletproof?


Then how did deconduo know that Radfield selected bulletproof as his godfather role? Are you implying that they are scum buddies or was that just a lucky guess? This accusation is silly.

why not you silly man

you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper. why don't you take a line from your own handbook and sleep with the fishes, scum


Role claim?

i'm not gonna roleclaim to scum. Don't need to give you guys more information than you already have. Once we kill you guys off and we start boiling down to the finish then I'll happily give up my last vestiges of information.

Or you guys could, you know, hit me tonight. Would save me the trouble of proving my own damn innocence.


Fine don't role claim to scum. Role claim to the rest of town, because they certainly don't buy your story of selecting a troll roll either.


On May 23 2011 20:09 kitaman27 wrote:
Should we even be discussing alignment checks with the potential Framer and Godframer in play? I would rather trust the detectives to do what they think best and keep mafia in the dark. I'm also surprised more people aren't pushing Caller to role claim.


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#1804
On May 28 2011 06:51 chaoser wrote:
24 days/24 nights seems fine to me


Me too.

GMarshal should use his vote check on a group of 4 people to split the town in half. With 3 lynches we should be able to sort things out.

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May 28 2011 14:24 GMT
#1814
On May 28 2011 15:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On May 28 2011 05:39 Foolishness wrote:
Assuming nothing strange happens, we should have 3 lynches to find the remaining member.

I just wanted to bring this to front as well. If we have too we can just carpet lynch kita foolishness and myself. Also, with their 1 KP, mafia can't kill Radfield at night so I think the town is gonna win this regardless of what happens.


If a endgame situation arises with Radfield vs 1 scum does the game end in a draw?

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May 28 2011 16:46 GMT
#1819
Can we deduce from the first 3 vote list checks whether it is possible for a non mole scum to exist (without a godfather/cover role). I'll take a look after GM posts his results.
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May 28 2011 17:38 GMT
#1822
On May 29 2011 02:21 GMarshal wrote:
Also take a care full look at those chaoser threatened the most, because it looks to me like scum chose a gradual loss over an immediate loss, this means that funnily enough Eiii and kita are at the top of the list of people to lynch today.


I think you are the mole. You find it necessary to explain why chaoser was killed instead of yourself. That is a sign of guilt. Your list check is equivalent to four of chaoser's role checks. Why is deconduo of all people getting shot instead of you? In addition, your day three list post in no way confirms you. There was a police radio, so you were forced to post it.

I suppose it is time to role claim. I'm the incredibly awful medic. For those who doubt it, I am 100% positive foolishness and meapak are medics, even though I do not know their roles. I have been informed that I'm not weak and based on GM's checks going through I can assume I am not paranoid. My protects were as follows:

1) Night one I protected Radfield. I was split between scamp and radifeld, but I had a much stronger town read on radfield. I did not realize he was bulletproof or else my protect obviously would have been elsewhere.

2) Night two I protected GMarshal. I was on Node until 12:00. I literally switched last minute after he posted that he would not be protecting GM. I strongly hinted at being medic in the thread so our protections did not overlap, but he decided to invent the radio instead.

3) Night three/four I protected GMarshal.

As I am medic, I should not be lynched tonight. Scum either must shoot me, which narrows down GM's suspect list or risk protection, which extends the game for us. If necessary, you guys can lynch me later on, but right now is not the optimized plan.

Either GM should be lynched to confirm the list or meapak, eiii, or radfield gets lynched tonight. GM and eiii are role checkers so they can confirm me if necessary.
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#1827
On May 29 2011 02:44 GMarshal wrote:
Kita, why didn't you counterclaim when tnkted claimed medic?


tnkted claimed doctor.

On May 29 2011 03:14 Foolishness wrote:
Going to vote meapak; still not convinced we even have a mole.


meapak has been confirmed non scum by the killer list check, unless he has a cover role. The only possibility is that he is scum. That being said, I think now would be a good time for him to claim.
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#1829
On May 29 2011 03:50 GMarshal wrote:
@Foolishness theres no way we *don't* have a mole

The police radio revealed that the killerSOS vote list had two mafia. Kurumi and tnkted were both on that list, they are both dead now. My second check revealed 1 mafia on that list. There *has* to be a mole in play.



"And for the last ability you may ask me how many mafia voted to lynch a specific person (cannot use this on mayor election)."

So you're saying you got one, rather than three?
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May 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#1831
On May 29 2011 03:55 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 03:51 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 29 2011 03:50 GMarshal wrote:
@Foolishness theres no way we *don't* have a mole

The police radio revealed that the killerSOS vote list had two mafia. Kurumi and tnkted were both on that list, they are both dead now. My second check revealed 1 mafia on that list. There *has* to be a mole in play.



"And for the last ability you may ask me how many mafia voted to lynch a specific person (cannot use this on mayor election)."

So you're saying you got one, rather than three?

Should have read "one left" my bad.
the actual result I was PMed was 3/10 mafia, again if you have a problem with it, lynch me, I'm happy to go, with that if it will stop you people from doubting me already, just be sure you can kill the one scum out of four people with two lynches.


Considering we have less than 5 lynches to deal with, why aren't you opposed to having yourself lynched if it means it decreases our chances of winning?
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May 28 2011 19:21 GMT
#1834
On May 29 2011 04:17 Radfield wrote:
Do you mean to say that Foolishness and meapak ARE NOT medics? Otherwise I don't understand how we could have 3 medics.


Opps, ya a typo.



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May 28 2011 23:29 GMT
#1864
Is it safe to assume we don't have a traitor? When the traitor gets converted, it would be reflected in the mafia count, right?
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#1866
On May 29 2011 08:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Why do we believe Eiii's claim again?


Confirmed by the police radio.
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May 29 2011 00:41 GMT
#1878
I also find it interesting that you went directly for me after your lynch check without providing an analysis or asking for a role claim. Could you provide an explanation for your reasoning?
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#1895
On May 29 2011 09:57 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 09:51 Radfield wrote:
On May 29 2011 09:42 Foolishness wrote:
If Eiii is not going to die tonight, he should check Meapak to confirm his claim.


I assume this means your down for voting GM?

Also, role claims are fairly unimportant right now. We all started as town, so we all have townies roles. No need to lie about them.

I'm still thinking about it. The way I see it is that meapak is the only one who could be lying about his claim. kitaman should die tonight.


Are we sure Foolishness isn't the traitor? -_-

Why should I die? I have the ability to extend the game with a save.
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May 29 2011 02:18 GMT
#1908
lol Meapak and Eiii sure do know when to keep their mouth shut.
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#1918
On May 29 2011 11:34 GMarshal wrote:
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On May 29 2011 11:26 Foolishness wrote:
And before you say so, no I'm not going to reveal the plan as it would involve me revealing my role, and I would have to sit here and explain to you the 8-10 different scenarios that would result, all the while listening to you go "NO THE OTHER IS MAFIA YOUR SO DUMB".

Not worth my time.


You are confirmed town, so I'll trust you, don't reveal it, especially if it involves changing the tempo of the lynches.


What is to trust? You already know his role, remember?
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May 29 2011 02:43 GMT
#1922
On May 29 2011 11:40 GMarshal wrote:
Oh and kita, why the vote for me?

Either way, please do remember to protect foolishness tonight and to lynch rad in the morning. ^_^


Opps I lied about being medic.

##Shoot GMarshal

pew pew
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#1924
Can't fool you!
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#1926
On May 29 2011 11:41 Foolishness wrote:
I kinda don't want to kill either GM or Radfield at this point.


I though your plan ensures that it doesn't matter who gets lynched tonight?
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May 29 2011 03:13 GMT
#1938
On May 29 2011 12:11 Foolishness wrote:
I want someone who is town to go through the game and find all the cases where a known mafia (now dead) talked about one of the remaining 4 people on the list. Ignore all the cases between Radfield and Ace (but if any of the other mafia talked about Radfield please list them).


I assume you don't feel like it?
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May 29 2011 03:21 GMT
#1945
Godfather or traitor are the only two roles to worry about him having and if he were one of the two, he could just claim hatter or something.

I don't suppose we can all switch back to 48 hour day cycles to save Eiii? At least he is one of the four on the list -_-
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#1972
Last minute vote switches? Scum specialty.
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#1975
Eiii with the scum modkill :p
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May 29 2011 04:06 GMT
#1986
GG GMarshal. No need to thank me for the triple medic protect :p

Awesome job with town minimizing role overlap o.O
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#1990
I'm shocked scum didn't go for the godframer. That would have been my first pick.
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#2010
Thanks for hosting Ver/FW ^_^
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May 29 2011 16:45 GMT
#2046
On May 30 2011 01:42 Kavdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 22:14 Ace wrote:
On May 29 2011 16:07 Kavdragon wrote:
On May 29 2011 13:49 Incognito wrote:
I don't get why my Ace analysis was pretty much ignored after I got shot. I really thought that was a good analysis, as well as a nice instructional guide on good mafia thread control, but oh well.



To those who lynched me day one: You fail at meta reads. The biggest thing to pull from my town meta is that I make lots of mistakes.


And thats exactly why you got lynched. This isn't a meta problem - it's just you making mistakes. The town would be foolish to say "oh its just the way Kavdragon plays, let him get a pass". When you screw up chances are you get lynched if the town is playing correctly.


I never said in there that my play was something that should have kept me from being lynched, but people were pushing me because of meta reasons, and they missed the biggest point from my meta. I agree that the mistakes I made were what lead to my lynch, but the people pushing for my lynch because of my meta were getting my meta wrong.


The lynch Kavdragon day one conspiracy has struck again. Can we make it three straight?
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