Experiment Mafia II

On April 26 2011 08:11 Ace wrote:
why do you hosts need to reserve 3 posts? Just 1 will do

On April 26 2011 08:39 Amber[LighT] wrote:


FINISH HIM!!!

On April 26 2011 08:49 Random4 wrote:
I am unique! ^^

-Random4

On April 26 2011 08:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:


Meapak_Ziphh is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards him or myself.

On April 26 2011 13:26 Orange2 wrote:
Hello everyone! My name is Companion Cube, and I will never stab you in the back.

Anyway, I ran basic mathematical analysis of our current predicament I have concluded that the best time to activate our power is in the dawn of the second day.

As I see it day one we start with eleven lovely participants and myself making a total of twelve test subjects. After the first night there will be a grand total of 9 of us left, assuming nothing stops the scheduled removals. if we use the power then we find out whether our first lynch was successful and we find out if our second lynch is successful. Let us assume that our deductive skills are flawed. This means that after that night there will be six subjects left, with one mafia kill that night it means we will instantly know if we mis-lynch or not, as if we do we will instantly lose (assuming no town KP are left in play). For this reason I propose we use the reveal power at dawn of the second day. The only potential reason why we might seek to avoid this use of the power is if we think it likely medics will protect at least one of the kills.

Thank you for respectfully listening to me.


I love you all, even if you choose to throw me in the incinerator <3

On April 26 2011 13:26 Orange2 wrote:
Hello everyone! My name is Companion Cube, and I will never stab you in the back.

Anyway, I ran basic mathematical analysis of our current predicament I have concluded that the best time to activate our power is in the dawn of the second day.

As I see it day one we start with eleven lovely participants and myself making a total of twelve test subjects. After the first night there will be a grand total of 9 of us left, assuming nothing stops the scheduled removals. if we use the power then we find out whether our first lynch was successful and we find out if our second lynch is successful. Let us assume that our deductive skills are flawed. This means that after that night there will be six subjects left, with one mafia kill that night it means we will instantly know if we mis-lynch or not, as if we do we will instantly lose (assuming no town KP are left in play). For this reason I propose we use the reveal power at dawn of the second day. The only potential reason why we might seek to avoid this use of the power is if we think it likely medics will protect at least one of the kills.

Thank you for respectfully listening to me.

I love you all, even if you choose to throw me in the incinerator <3

On April 26 2011 20:51 Blue1 wrote:
I agree with orange's analysis on the usage of the town power. I supose we should start with random voting session.
##Voterotoss1
Until the next patch you have an unfair advantage.

On April 26 2011 22:56 Terran1 wrote:


Um, in experiment 1 the best time to reveal was the third day, although we still lost the game (DAMN YOU TIBERIUS). isn't that true for this game as well?

On April 26 2011 20:51 Blue1 wrote:
I agree with orange's analysis on the usage of the town power. I supose we should start with random voting session.
##Vote: Protoss1
Until the next patch you have an unfair advantage.

On April 27 2011 00:14 Protoss1 wrote:


No reason to vote for me... my warpgates are getting nerfed soon.

Good morning all. I'm new to this town and the lynching process, so I'm likely to follow along with whatever the majority decides until someone suspicious incriminates themselves.

On April 27 2011 00:46 Blue1 wrote:
I see no reason to change my vote. Obvious bandwagoner is obvious.
As for the questions, the first 2 help scum way more than town. What's your reasoning behind this?
Questions 3 and 4:
3)Townie. I don't like the pressure of the other roles.
4)Yes.

On April 27 2011 01:07 Protoss1 wrote:
There's no reason to mistake my openness as scum. We are all still getting to know each other. Why would I incriminate myself so early on? Obvious mafia is obvious? I am merely new to this process and would not want to point an ill-informed finger at someone with no solid evidence or experience to back it up.

Feel free to pressure me all you like, I have nothing to hide. I would hope you would not vote to lynch someone just because they are new to the town and its inner-workings.

Orange, I have no answer to your questions one and two. Unfortunately I do not have the experience to answer either question. If you interpret this as scum, so be it. My favorite role would be a Townie, because I like to be an observer rather than an integral role or deciding factor in the town's outcome. I do love the companion cube, however, I'm starting to get the feeling that it does not reciprocate.

On April 27 2011 00:38 Orange2 wrote:
Questions:
1.) What is your number one scum tell? meaning what kind of post or style immediatly makes you think someone is scum
2.) what is your number one town tell?
3.) What is your favorite role and why?
4.) Do you love the companion cube?

On April 27 2011 01:16 Zerg1 wrote:
HI

ORANGE2 IS SCUM

GOODNIGHT

On April 27 2011 01:21 Protoss1 wrote:
It appears you are correct Orange, it was a minor edit but an edit nonetheless. I have re-read the town's rules and the mistake will not happen again. My apologies.

I am a bit surprised Blue is being so hostile so early on. I feel Blue is acting much more like "scum" than I am. He is pointing the finger without having even met everyone in the town yet. If you believe I am scum, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But I personally would prefer we at least meet everyone before you start putting the noose around someone's neck.

On April 27 2011 01:21 Protoss1 wrote:
It appears you are correct Orange, it was a minor edit but an edit nonetheless. I have re-read the town's rules and the mistake will not happen again. My apologies.

I am a bit surprised Blue is being so hostile so early on. I feel Blue is acting much more like "scum" than I am. He is pointing the finger without having even met everyone in the town yet. If you believe I am scum, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But I personally would prefer we at least meet everyone before you start putting the noose around someone's neck.

On April 27 2011 03:50 Orange2 wrote:
"niceness" and "meanness" don't compute into the behavioral protocols as scum or town tells, some subjects favor a more aggressive attitude (read, case study coagulation and jackal) while others prefer a "nicer" more laid back approach. Either way it reveals nothing about their alignment.

Again I think we need to hear more from the quieter members of the experiment. I understand the glare of the bright lights and the threat of imminent death can sometimes make people hesitant to speak, but it is important that we all participate in the discussion, for science.

On April 27 2011 04:18 Jackal58 wrote:

I'm not mean.
Am I?
Sorry. I'll leave your experiment alone.

On April 27 2011 04:44 Random4 wrote:
Shut up orange no one is going to listen to you.

We use the town power day 3, and forcing activity by putting a vote on someone before they get the chance to vote is a little shortsighted. I'm not lurking in the shadows, I just fuckin looked at the thread now.

Protoss is obviously new, if anything really sticks out as scummy from him at the moment, please quote it and post why. Zerg seems like a much better lynch, not because he posting aggressively in caps, but because of the lack of analyzable content in his posts. Now THAT is scummy, and it appears as if he is going to make that his "thing" in the thread. Not havin it bro. Change up your posting.

Voting zerg.

On April 27 2011 04:44 Random4 wrote:
Protoss is obviously new, if anything really sticks out as scummy from him at the moment, please quote it and post why.

On April 27 2011 00:14 Protoss1 wrote:
I'm new to this town and the lynching process, so I'm likely to follow along with whatever the majority decides until someone suspicious incriminates themselves.

On April 27 2011 04:44 Random4 wrote:
Shut up orange no one is going to listen to you.

We use the town power day 3, and forcing activity by putting a vote on someone before they get the chance to vote is a little shortsighted. I'm not lurking in the shadows, I just fuckin looked at the thread now.

Protoss is obviously new, if anything really sticks out as scummy from him at the moment, please quote it and post why. Zerg seems like a much better lynch, not because he posting aggressively in caps, but because of the lack of analyzable content in his posts. Now THAT is scummy, and it appears as if he is going to make that his "thing" in the thread. Not havin it bro. Change up your posting.

Voting zerg.

On April 27 2011 05:11 Blue1 wrote:
Orange, your on character behaviour is anoying and makes your posts unecessarily difficult to read for content. That makes you suspicious in my eyes.
As for protoss, he IS obviously new, but those are newbie mafia mistakes, not newbie town mistakes. He's either scum or useless so I stand by my vote to get him lynched.

On April 27 2011 05:11 Blue1 wrote:
Orange, your on character behaviour is anoying and makes your posts unecessarily difficult to read for content. That makes you suspicious in my eyes.
As for protoss, he IS obviously new, but those are newbie mafia mistakes, not newbie town mistakes. He's either scum or useless so I stand by my vote to get him lynched.

On April 27 2011 05:11 Blue1 wrote:
Orange, your on character behaviour is anoying and makes your posts unecessarily difficult to read for content. That makes you suspicious in my eyes.
As for protoss, he IS obviously new, but those are newbie mafia mistakes, not newbie town mistakes. He's either scum or useless so I stand by my vote to get him lynched.

On April 27 2011 05:27 Protoss1 wrote:


I am most definitely not useless, I assure you. I am also not scum.

I am voting for zerg1. Despite posting several times he has not contributed anything useful to the discussion thus far, and more than that, the tone/content of his posts is something I can live without for the remainder of this expirement.

##Vote: zerg1

On April 27 2011 05:47 Zerg1 wrote:



Listen Up everyone

Scumhunting 101 Lesson: Protoss1

1. He posted apologetically right away.

2. Continues to make excuses and focus on unimportant things.

3. The biggest tell is that when pressured, he reacted by voting for the person who pressured him.

This is a good sign of a newb mafia, I wasn't going to seriously vote for you, but you are solidifying my case. I also pressured orange2, but he acted appropriately.

In this type of game, it's usually best to no lynch on day1, since a mislynch is very costly, but i'll stand by my vote of protoss1 for now.

On April 27 2011 06:04 red2 wrote:
Like i lurked for first 12 hours. popped in to say Hi when i was put on a list. made 1 post about how people should be nice and then went right back to lurking. If i can do it and get away with it then what makes you guys think mafia aren't doing it?

On April 27 2011 06:07 purple2 wrote:

I'm sure they are.
##VOTE: red2

On April 27 2011 06:09 Blue1 wrote:
The question is, why were you doing it? Why pop up now? Time to take the focus off your buddy?

On April 27 2011 06:11 Blue1 wrote:
You didn't answer my 2 first questions.

On April 27 2011 06:03 Blue1 wrote:
No lynch is terrible for town. The only way to kill mafia is to lynch. If we vote no lynch we only have a new day 1 all over again with one less townie.
Also Protoss1 hinting blue in two posts annoys me greatly and I don't see how this can be pro-town. I don't believe people, newbie or not, can be this naive.

On April 27 2011 06:09 red2 wrote:


/facepalm

On April 27 2011 06:17 purple2 wrote:

Indeed.

On April 27 2011 06:14 red2 wrote:


I was busy getting a tooth pulled. and "why pop up now" is a silly question. your asking me why I came to participate in the game? should i just never start posting?

On April 27 2011 06:24 Blue1 wrote:

You contradict yourself. First you say you were lurking and now you say you were busy.

On April 27 2011 06:23 red2 wrote:


yeah man cause your so good at scum hunting you dont even need to look for scum. they just stop by and say "look at me im lurking lynch me"

Your a real credit to town.

On April 27 2011 08:18 Blue1 wrote:
This is from the op:
Activity:
As far as activity goes in this game, I am not using the standard rule. I hold you all tot he agreement you made and expect a commitment. I will nudge someone for inactivity to get them to post more, but I won't mod kill them. Punishments will be handed out post game with the severity and terms listed in the sign up thread.
...
I will say this one more time. The two cardinal sins in this game are as follow.
1. Trying to find out AKA's of players, or who is in the game.
2. Inactivity.

Neither will result in an immediate mod kill, but afterwords I will do everything in my power to make you suffer. Which can be quite a lot.


I think this is incentive enough to make people post. I don't think a huge analysis at this point is necessary as I've pretty much commented on every post he's made so far and I don't feel like repeating myself. For now we have to use the info we have so far and I'm voting on the person I find most likely to be scum. Red is a close candidate though. If you don't feel the same way and have any leads on others I sugest you share it.

On April 27 2011 09:04 Orange2 wrote:


I would agree with you, but as the last experiment proved the threat of excessive banning is not enough to persuade subjects to post as much as they should, which is why I believe we should be pressuring inactives/lurkers. I disliked Zerg's caps-locked attitude but he seems to have recovered from it and I now have no problem keeping him around.

I fail to see why red pointing out that inactives are a problem makes him scum, he clearly stuck out his neck when it wasn't necessary to point out to us that the mafia could just be skating by, without being really pressured, and you guys want to lynch him for it? Once everyone has posted something of substance we can start worrying about scumhunting, but as far as we know the scum team has yet to post and are giggling franticly in a corner, watching us shove each other closer to the incinerator.

Assume for a second you guys are right, and protoss is the newbiest of newbie mafias if thats the case even if we leave him around and pressure inactives now he is going to make some kind of major mistake that gives him away or revert to typical newbie mafia behavior, which we *will* catch him at. I'm content to leave him around in the knowledge that we will know if he is scum or not sooner rather than later. I'd much rather poke the people not doing anything to see how they squirm.

On no lynch. Town almost never benefits from no lynch, in 98% of the previous experiments all no lynching did was fail to provide information and basically recreate day 1, nolynch provided no real benefits, and in the end meant the town had one less person to work with.

yellow1
pink2
green2

have yet to make substantial contributions, and it annoys me, I did not know I could get annoyed, but apparently I can

On April 27 2011 09:52 Orange2 wrote:
Interesting first post yellow, you are right, it *is* easy for red to post "people are lurking" but doing so after being accused of lurking is kind of ballsy, dont you think?

No, why would it be?

Also nice empty post, tell me, who do you think should be lynched? Why?
You clearly disagree with my assessment of red, would you lynch him over someone such as green2? Why or why not? Give me data yellow, stuff I can analyze.

This is a pretty big reply to an empty post. I'd lynch red2 if I had to lynch somebody right now, because his posts suck. There's plenty of daytime left for me to change my mind, and there are several players I'll be watching carefully. And yes, I'd lynch red over green, obviously, because green hasn't posted yet so I have no read on him. If he doesn't post before the day ends, of course, the situation will be different.

Oh and for your information the game has been up for almost 19 hours, which to me is more than enough time for *everyone* to have posted something of relevance. Notice how whenever I pressure someone they pop up, sooner rather than later.

I know exactly how long the game has been up. It started after I went to bed, and I started reading this thread when I got home from work and finished supper. I posted when I was finished, and there was no way I could have posted before then, regardless of when or whether anyone called me out for "lurking".

That said, you posted, moving on to the next subject

##Unvote
##Vote:pink2

Do you genuinely believe you are accomplishing something by this?

Pointing out that mafia could be skating by as lurkers without any pressure doesn't require 'sticking your neck out' at all. It's a bland, blanket statement that applies to any game. It's the very easiest way for mafia to 'contribute'. It's also less than irrelevant on day1 when less than 24 hours have passed since the game started. For some people, this may be their first chance to catch up on the thread since the game started.

Also, I agree with the poster above who asked you to dispense with the role-playing. It just obscures your points.

On April 27 2011 11:15 red2 wrote:
Im gonna vote yellow1 for a couple of reasons.
First of all he has an extremely "im right your wrong and nothing can change my mind" attitude for someone who just started posting. He seems to be coming off as extremely aggressive right out the gate and I would like to see how well his aggressive attitude holds up with some votes stacked on his name. I get the feeling that hes trying extremely hard to put on a show.
Heres a quote from him




He seems to be spending his efforts "Debunking" players that are looking pro town and not actually looking for scum signs. this is a pretty common scumtell. If he was town he should be making a mental note of the "fluffness" of someones post and checking it untill further use later when he has a case. Instead hes trying to discredit people as much as possible as soon as possible.

And then theres his last statement. Repeating what someone else says in order to create the illusion of contributing. another big scum tell. im getting a 90% scum read on him.

##Vote:yellow1

Yeah, you're either really bad or scum.

whoa whoa relax bro. we want to build a positive town atmosphere. think happy thoughts.

On April 27 2011 20:59 green2 wrote:
EBWOP:
Voting for Protoss1 for now, but not set in stone.

On April 27 2011 22:00 purple2 wrote:

If Protoss is scum his scum buddy is dumb as a post.

Red2 seems to be bandwagonning in terms of defending people accused by Orange2, who I have a strong town read on. He does this with no justification

On April 27 2011 20:58 green2 wrote:
3.) What is your favorite role and why? Anything other than vanilla town. This is my 4th game and I've never had a role other than this.

Notice how he emphasizes that he is both town and new, its something to take note of.

So based on what I have a read to this point, my vote is going to be on Protoss1. His original scummy posting was chalked up to his being a new player (we have no way of confirming this). I feel that a new player that was posting that frequently and long windedly might is likely to be scum. I didn't say much at all in my first game (Was Town).

I disagree with this point, activity is not a scumtell, inactivity might be. Notice the part I boded I know its a misedit, but its a notable misedit, its obvious that green isn't convinced that its likely a scum tell "might" but he revised it to make it sound more convinced, to justify a vote he is unsure of.

As for else I have a scum read on:

Isn't much to go on yet, but red2 made a post that I thought was scummy. When orange2 was basically told to STFU! by Random4, red2 said:



This stuck with me for two reasons:
1. Short, contentless scummy post.
2. Red2 seems to be bandwagonning in terms of defending people accused by Orange2, who I have a strong town read on. He does this with no justification

I've always felt that mafia would want to be seen to defend both townies AND mafia if it was apparent that at least one other townie.

This analysis seems forced to me, its trying to make too much out of too little, sure its a short and contentless post, but point two is... nonsensical? I must be missing something but I dont see where Green is getting that from. Reading this part of the post I feel like green might as well have included "oh btw red is the color of mafia, so he is obviously scum"

For this reason I also have a townread on Random4.
Why? You dont give a real reason, is it because he voted for red? You realize that voting for buddies and then moving the vote is textbook mafia right?

All of this being said, I've never played a game where there was a mafia lynch on day one.
Getting ready to justify a mislynch. there is no reason why town *has* to not lynch mafia day 1.

On April 27 2011 22:17 green2 wrote:

All I'm saying is that I don't feel very strongly about my vote, I'm like a Dem voting for Dukakis.

Setting himself up to move his vote off Protoss if the opportunity arises, see the part where I said that mafia dont mind voting for their own, especially if they can be "unsure" and move the vote later

On April 28 2011 00:32 Protoss1 wrote:
I'm feeling more and more than Red and Yellow are on different sides of the town line, but I'm having a hard time figuring out which is which.

I still don't know why people think I should be the Day 1 vote... the only thing I've been guilty of is being new. I haven't been creating chaos or making random accusations and then silently backing away and letting other people argue it out and do my work for me.

If I get lynched, when does my role get revealed? (not sure if this should be in mod font, but I'm guessing you all can answer my question for me). Since I'm looking more and more likely to be lynched, according to the rules revealing your role is not against the rules, it's just frowned upon. Would revealing my role as a last ditch effort just serve to help the mafia more than the town?

For the last time: I am not scum.

On April 28 2011 00:40 purple2 wrote:

You have 1 vote on you. Crack a beer and watch some porn dude.
Your role won't be revealed.
Role claiming to avoid a lynch works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. In this setup you could claim to be Winston Churchill's dog and we wouldn't know until after the game.
If you do wish to reveal your role to avoid a lynch odds are you'll be shot that night anyways.

On April 28 2011 00:40 purple2 wrote:

You have 1 vote on you. Crack a beer and watch some porn dude.
Your role won't be revealed.
Role claiming to avoid a lynch works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. In this setup you could claim to be Winston Churchill's dog and we wouldn't know until after the game.
If you do wish to reveal your role to avoid a lynch odds are you'll be shot that night anyways.

On April 28 2011 00:48 Orange2 wrote:


Role reveals in a no-flip game only cause wifom, and my policy is going to be to ignore them as far as making decisions, if someone has claimed I will check out their claim, only if after we pop our reveal power we find out that all the mafia are still amongst us. So yeah, claiming in a no flip game is not useful, and as far as I am concerned will not serve to deter the lynch

On April 28 2011 00:49 Zerg1 wrote:


How will you check them? Did you just claim dt?

On April 28 2011 01:14 Blue1 wrote:
Orange, your analysis of green seems to me at least as much bullshit as green's analysis of red. Also, your strategy of voting for people one at a time until they post is ridiculous if you change your vote as soon as they post any random garbage. This is no pressure at all.
Protoss is playing so bad I have a hard time pinning him as either town or mafia. I don't want to hear any claims this early in the game.
I'm voting red. He has been useless so far and yellow made a good point. You jumping into his defense has intrigued me.

On April 28 2011 01:29 Blue1 wrote:
Terran1 has not posted yet. Being inactive is a null tell. Being active while pretending to be usefull while posting nothing of value is a scum tell.

On April 28 2011 01:26 Zerg1 wrote:
Red2 seems like a good candidate for now, protoss1 initially responded hastily and scum like to my pressure, but he reacted calmly afterwards. I'm still watching you protoss1.

On April 28 2011 01:14 Blue1 wrote:
Also, your strategy of voting for people one at a time until they post is ridiculous if you change your vote as soon as they post any random garbage. This is no pressure at all.

On April 28 2011 06:31 yellow1 wrote:
I think you mean a replacement, not a mod kill, right?

On April 28 2011 06:45 Orange2 wrote:


Its indifferent, as long as we get rid of the issue one way or another.

So it seems our lynch right now is split between red and pink, I'm going to stick with pink because the lack of posting bothers me immensely.

On April 28 2011 06:56 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
day will end at 05:00 GMT (+00:00)

Don't think this worked. Trying to use the time command, but I get 1am for me when the day ends at 12:00am EST. It also tells me my timezone is EDT, but it's EST. Maybe it will work for some of you.

On April 28 2011 06:54 yellow1 wrote:


You mean it's irrelevant, but it's not. Mod kills are almost always town, meaning lylo comes faster.

On April 28 2011 03:59 Orange2 wrote:


I think you aren't fully seeing my startegy, yes I do let off as soon as they post something, this is because later I can hold them to "you clearly saw the thread, you even posted _______ yet you failed to contribute" when building an argument, or if they actually posted well then I can commend them for it, let them post a one line spam of garbage to get my vote off them, I promise it will come back to haunt them, sooner rather than later.

That said, do you mind summarizing your argument against red? I see it as a "he is lurking" argument, which if is the case I am fine with, pressuring and even killing lurkers is fine by me. As I interpreted it you also want to lynch him because of the information it would reveal about my relationship with him? You realize that lynching for information is usually bad play right? Especially in a no flip game. If you are gunning for him for his inactivity/lurk then I can support that.

also Pink where the hell are you?

On April 28 2011 07:31 Blue1 wrote:
Also your first example is mylo and the second is lylo. You are assuming too much either way, as town has to have some power roles for this setup to be even close to balanced.

On April 28 2011 07:35 Protoss1 wrote:
I understand where you're coming from, but for me, as a noob, the point is playing the game. Winning will be a bonus. That is not to say I do not want to help the town win, of course. I'm just not convinced yet that Red is scum, and my vote has to go somewhere.

My vote is not set in stone, I will be waiting to see if/how Red defends himself.

On April 27 2011 00:46 Blue1 wrote:
Obvious bandwagoner is obvious.

On April 28 2011 07:42 Blue1 wrote:
Protoss we are letting you live in the off chance you have some kind of night super powers. If you derail this lynch by voting someone who already has a vote for no apparent reason, your ass is ours on day2. If your objective is to survive I sugest you start being useful to the town.

On April 28 2011 08:04 red2 wrote:
This will be my 1 post in response to the votes on me as i think my time would be better spent looking for scum and pushing my prior suspicions. Im not scum. kill me if you must but move forward with the knowledge that you have lynched a townie.

On April 28 2011 08:06 Protoss1 wrote:
I am not confident enough yet to know who are scum, that's the problem. So if I'm forced to vote I'd rather it be someome who isn't playing until I hear enough from someone to feel, "Ok, they have definitely given themselves away." I haven't felt that yet.

On April 28 2011 08:05 Orange2 wrote:


Poor defense. propose an alternate lynch then, and back it up please. Who do you think is scum and needs nice little shove into the incinerator?

On April 28 2011 08:09 red2 wrote:


im not gonna repeat myself because you have poor reading comprehension. go back and read my posts. its absolutely mind boggling how clueless your post is.

On April 28 2011 08:09 red2 wrote:


im not gonna repeat myself because you have poor reading comprehension. go back and read my posts. its absolutely mind boggling how clueless your post is.

On April 28 2011 08:12 Orange2 wrote:


/applause great defense
I'm giving you a chance to sway people and save yourself, if you really are town then make every effort to not get lynched dont just post "you are all *wrong*" and leave it at that.

Is it that difficult to grasp? if you already defended yourself then *restate* your arguments, many of us are dimwitted and have thick skulls and need things repeated. I didn't find your previous case convincing, either make it more convincing or come up with another one.

On April 28 2011 06:31 yellow1 wrote:
I think you mean a replacement, not a mod kill, right?

On April 28 2011 06:57 Random4 wrote:
Still, I don't think a pure inactive is the best course. If pink or terran is mafia, I don't draw any pleasure lynching them. I'd rather aim for the active mafia if possible. I'm going to put my vote on red.

On April 28 2011 07:31 Blue1 wrote:
Also your first example is mylo and the second is lylo. You are assuming too much either way, as town has to have some power roles for this setup to be even close to balanced.

On April 28 2011 08:14 Protoss1 wrote:


Ok, apparently Red is a jerk, but I'm not convinced he's in the mafia.

Right now the following people have voted against Red:
Blue
Zerg
Random
Orange

Would a mafia member try and convince 4(+) people with the argument "You suck, you're stupid, do whatever you want." Unless he realizes the jig is up and is saving face in hopes his teammates will succeed where he has utterly failed?

On April 28 2011 08:14 Protoss1 wrote:


Ok, apparently Red is a jerk, but I'm not convinced he's in the mafia.

Right now the following people have voted against Red:
Blue
Zerg
Random
Orange

Would a mafia member try and convince 4(+) people with the argument "You suck, you're stupid, do whatever you want." Unless he realizes the jig is up and is saving face in hopes his teammates will succeed where he has utterly failed?

On April 28 2011 09:32 Blue1 wrote:
Let me ask you something purple, you seem to be a vet. Do you think our chances are better if we all agree to lynch pink today, produce no information and go into day 2 with 3 less townies? Yes, maybe pink is mafia, but the chances are slim.

On April 28 2011 00:36 Orange2 wrote:
Activity seems to be dying down, thats not very much fun...

Onto promoting activity!

A post by post of our good friend, green, who has all of 4 posts,

His first post was useless spam, so I'll disregard it, it only shows that he was around,

onto post 2, I'm deleting parts of it and keeping those parts I think relevant






Result: Medium/Low Scum Read I need to see more from green, but I'm getting hints that he may be more red than his name suggests.

That said <3 green, I will never desert you. Now if you would please step closer to the emergency test subject incinerator...

On April 28 2011 03:55 green2 wrote:


I'm Sheriff.

On April 28 2011 13:12 Random4 wrote:
Well, vig green, we in good shape. Id find it hard to believe neither green nor red were scum.

On April 26 2011 09:08 Blue1 wrote:
I'm ready.

On April 26 2011 20:51 Blue1 wrote:
I agree with orange's analysis on the usage of the town power. I supose we should start with random voting session.
##Voterotoss1
Until the next patch you have an unfair advantage.

On April 26 2011 23:17 Blue1 wrote:
The best time to use it is before possible mylo. It comes down to if we have vigs or not, medic protection, etc, and I feel that's orange's point.
Should I vote for you then terran1?

On April 27 2011 00:46 Blue1 wrote:
I see no reason to change my vote. Obvious bandwagoner is obvious.
As for the questions, the first 2 help scum way more than town. What's your reasoning behind this?
Questions 3 and 4:
3)Townie. I don't like the pressure of the other roles.
4)Yes.

On April 27 2011 01:12 Blue1 wrote:
If scum knows how the majority thinks, then it's easier for them to adapt. I think RVS is a good start for generating discussion. Pressuring the lurkers is a good way too. I don't have enough experience with the questions game to know how to make it effective.

On April 27 2011 01:15 Blue1 wrote:
I hate tunneling a player so early but protoss1 reeks of scum so much, I feel there's no way around it this game.

On April 27 2011 03:26 Blue1 wrote:

I'm being hostile because I don't like your kind in my town, scum. Why go out of your way and say "town's rules". This is a game of mafia and those are mafia's rules. You are making too much of an effort to be nice and appear town. Nice OMGUS by the way.

On April 27 2011 05:11 Blue1 wrote:
Orange, your on character behaviour is anoying and makes your posts unecessarily difficult to read for content. That makes you suspicious in my eyes.
As for protoss, he IS obviously new, but those are newbie mafia mistakes, not newbie town mistakes. He's either scum or useless so I stand by my vote to get him lynched.

On April 27 2011 06:03 Blue1 wrote:
No lynch is terrible for town. The only way to kill mafia is to lynch. If we vote no lynch we only have a new day 1 all over again with one less townie.
Also Protoss1 hinting blue in two posts annoys me greatly and I don't see how this can be pro-town. I don't believe people, newbie or not, can be this naive.

On April 28 2011 01:29 Blue1 wrote:
Terran1 has not posted yet. Being inactive is a null tell. Being active while pretending to be usefull while posting nothing of value is a scum tell.

On April 28 2011 01:32 Blue1 wrote:
Zerg, why are you instant bandwagoning all my votes? I can't say I dissagree with your logic, because you are voting the same as me, but I'd like a bit more content from you instead of mindlessly following all my votes.

On April 28 2011 07:26 Blue1 wrote:

I'm voting for red because I think he is scum. He has posted several times and has yet to make any contribution. His answer about him being lurking, then saying he was busy did not convince me. After your post, I began seing things from a different angle, but yellow's post made me question that yet again. I'm still torn between him and protoss, because he has not been active as soon as the pressure went off of him.
As for seing your reaction, I'm interested in the reactions of all other players, not just yours.

On April 28 2011 07:31 Blue1 wrote:
Also your first example is mylo and the second is lylo. You are assuming too much either way, as town has to have some power roles for this setup to be even close to balanced.

On April 28 2011 07:32 Blue1 wrote:
The point is winning the game. You have no info on pink2 so your chance of being right is 2/11.

On April 28 2011 07:42 Blue1 wrote:
Protoss we are letting you live in the off chance you have some kind of night super powers. If you derail this lynch by voting someone who already has a vote for no apparent reason, your ass is ours on day2. If your objective is to survive I sugest you start being useful to the town.

On April 28 2011 07:59 Blue1 wrote:
Protoss, and how is pink not an easy vote? I'm not telling you to vote for red. I'm telling you to vote for who you think is scum.
Orange, while I agree with you, I don't think you see the point here.

On April 28 2011 08:12 Blue1 wrote:
Protoss, please explain to me how voting for pink is going to give you that kind of information. Are you expecting the scum team to come to the thread and say "Hello, I'm definetly scum, you can be sure you are not making a mistake if you vote for me! Have a nice day!".

On April 28 2011 09:32 Blue1 wrote:
Let me ask you something purple, you seem to be a vet. Do you think our chances are better if we all agree to lynch pink today, produce no information and go into day 2 with 3 less townies? Yes, maybe pink is mafia, but the chances are slim.

On April 28 2011 10:30 Blue1 wrote:
It's not the lynch that produces information, it's the pressure and the discussion. We get nowhere if we all agree to lynch pink. Also, how can you tell that pink and terran will keep being inactive? I'm sure RoL will smite them down with great anger if they don't start posting soon.

Block 0 hits:  D1:11, N1:10, D2:8, N2:7, D3:5 LYLO.  Time to use Town Power:  Day 2.

Block 1 hit: D1:11, N1:10, D2:9, N2:8, D3:6 MYLO.  A mislynch here loses us the game, as N3:5, D4:4 with 2 scum.  Time to use Town Power:  Day 2.

Block 2 hits:  D1:11, N1:10, D2:10, N2:9, D3:7, N3:6, D4:5 LYLO.  Bam we just bought another day.  Time to use Town Power:  Day 3.

Block 3 hits:  D1:11, N1:10, D2:10, N2:9, D3:8, N3:7, D4:6 MYLO.  Time to use Town Power:  Day 3.

Block 4 hits:  D1:11, N1:10, D2:10, N2:9, D3:9, N3:8, D4:7, N4:6, D5:5 LYLO.  At this point, if I were scum, I'd be suspecting maphacks.  Time to use Town Power:  Day 4.

On April 28 2011 13:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:


Well subjects I see you’ve all had a productive day, the experiment staff would like to
applaud that. Now unfortunately we’ve got to get to the nasty business of lynching. As usual RoL and I would like to remind everybody that no one’s real bodies are hurt during this experiment. I’ve tallied the votes and it appears as though Red2 is to be lynched. As you see he’s now dead so if you will all please step away from the body our lab assistants will retrieve it. We’ll be turning the lights off for the next 24 hours, have a safe sleep.

It is now night 1! You have 24 hours to submit night actions, night will end at 04:30 GMT (+00:00)

On April 28 2011 21:35 Pink2 wrote:
I am not a replacement. RoL will confirm, and also confirm that it was entirely his fault :p. I was not aware that I was in this game until after Day 1 ended.

//Pink2

On April 29 2011 01:47 Random4 wrote:
I generally agree with pink's assessment of blue, but I'm not putting pink in the townie circle. I will have to read it again to see my own opinion of both blue and you. I couldn't fathom both zerg and blue being scum. That would be gross.

I am not voting for role reveal. What would the use be instead of using it after the next lynch? If red pops scum, then we basically won. If he pops town, then we are in a load of shit. And it will be a massive load because we wouldn't have role reveal at a key point. Wait for the next lynchee I say.

On April 29 2011 01:47 Random4 wrote:
I generally agree with pink's assessment of blue, but I'm not putting pink in the townie circle. I will have to read it again to see my own opinion of both blue and you. I couldn't fathom both zerg and blue being scum. That would be gross.

I am not voting for role reveal. What would the use be instead of using it after the next lynch? If red pops scum, then we basically won. If he pops town, then we are in a load of shit. And it will be a massive load because we wouldn't have role reveal at a key point. Wait for the next lynchee I say.

On April 29 2011 01:41 Blue1 wrote:
##Vote: Use power
I agree with orange's list, but would like to add protoss1 to the medic list. Right now, I feel he's either scum or blue, so if he's not scum he's sure to be dead this night, because he hinted he has an important role in many of his posts.

On April 26 2011 08:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
There will be NO flip reveals. However once per game, starting night two the town may vote to reveal the remaining mafia count, and the alignment of the next person lynched. The mafia count will come with the day post.

On April 29 2011 07:13 Random4 wrote:
Uh yeah, was just going over everything in my head and reading over stuff when I saw this:



Yeah... I think we should all feel a little silly. But in better news, I am all for popping it as soon as we can!

On April 29 2011 07:59 yellow1 wrote:


Wow this post is scummy.

On April 29 2011 09:25 Random4 wrote:
So even if I was wrong about my points I still got my way! Haha!

On April 29 2011 09:33 Orange2 wrote:


You aren't endearing yourself to me...

On April 29 2011 09:55 Random4 wrote:
Prove it motha fucka. I've said what I thought, and have done nothing scummy. Alright maybe I was wrong about the reveal thing after reading through pink's stuff again, but being slightly misinformed and letting everyone know it is most definitely not being scummy. Green has yet to do any shit anywhere, and if we lynch him next day, I guarantee they will have 1 mafia left when we reveal.