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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 05:24:54
April 18 2011 05:06 GMT
#181
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Good morning subjects. I hope some of you had a restful night. Unfortunately the night wasn’t peaceful for some. Several thing happened and when the dust settled (figuratively speaking, this is a sterile environment) Bashful1 was discovered dead by the experiment staff. We’re of course very saddened by this death but we remind you that this is what smurfs are for, so no one gets hurt. The experiment staff would also like to remind everyone that inactivity doesn’t kill scum, scumhunting kills scum. You’ve got 32 hours to vote on who to kill.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
bashful1
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
April 18 2011 05:12 GMT
#182
GL~
doc1
Profile Joined April 2011
30 Posts
April 18 2011 05:23 GMT
#183
Uhhh what happenend to no flip? (not that it really mattered)
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
April 18 2011 05:25 GMT
#184
Fuck. No that actually was really bad on my part. Edited. You are not allowed to repost what you saw.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
doc1
Profile Joined April 2011
30 Posts
April 18 2011 05:27 GMT
#185
On April 18 2011 14:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Fuck. No that actually was really bad on my part. Edited. You are not allowed to repost what you saw.


would you like me to remove my post?
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 18 2011 05:28 GMT
#186
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.
doc1
Profile Joined April 2011
30 Posts
April 18 2011 05:31 GMT
#187
On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


Well i can mostly sum it up as not agreeing with augustus's fear mongering. Then FoS's Tiberius for being sorta wishy washy.

I also highly doubt a vig shot him as there is no reason for scum not to shoot at night. Probably just wanted to shoot someone that wouldnt draw then too much suspicion.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 05:34:53
April 18 2011 05:34 GMT
#188
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 18 2011 05:52 GMT
#189
On April 18 2011 14:31 doc1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


Well i can mostly sum it up as not agreeing with augustus's fear mongering. Then FoS's Tiberius for being sorta wishy washy.

I also highly doubt a vig shot him as there is no reason for scum not to shoot at night. Probably just wanted to shoot someone that wouldnt draw then too much suspicion.

Except the points he had on Tiberius are perfectly valid.
##Vote Tiberius
Tiberius, why did you kill Bashful?
sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 18 2011 05:55 GMT
#190
On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


That's such a weird question. Vigi's can only shoot on night 2 right?
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 18 2011 06:00 GMT
#191
On April 18 2011 14:55 sleepy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


That's such a weird question. Vigi's can only shoot on night 2 right?

1) Read OP
2) Not buying the 'noob card' from you at all.
3) Those are statements =V
4) I want a divisible by 5 list.
5) Here is another filler line.
sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 18 2011 06:16 GMT
#192
I wasn't selling a noob card to you. I just found it weird that you would even attribute the hit on bashful as vigi hit cause that would mean mafia didn't hit anyone night 1. And then you accused tiberius of hitting bashful.

On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


On April 18 2011 14:52 happy1 wrote:
Except the points he had on Tiberius are perfectly valid.
##Vote Tiberius
Tiberius, why did you kill Bashful?


seems like an interesting contradiction
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 18 2011 06:59 GMT
#193
On April 18 2011 15:16 sleepy1 wrote:
I wasn't selling a noob card to you. I just found it weird that you would even attribute the hit on bashful as vigi hit cause that would mean mafia didn't hit anyone night 1. And then you accused tiberius of hitting bashful.

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 14:52 happy1 wrote:
Except the points he had on Tiberius are perfectly valid.
##Vote Tiberius
Tiberius, why did you kill Bashful?


seems like an interesting contradiction

IF a vig killed and there was only 1 body, and since we KNOW vig gets his shot back if mafia also shoots the same person, THEN they should claim the shot. Didn't state I thought Bashful was vigged; au contraire, I believe he was killed by scum. Though I guess I can see you inferencing that.

Also, not seeing any contradiction. I agree with Bashful's assesment of Tiberius; and I'm asking why Tiberius killed Bashful. Where did I state I thought Tiberius was vig? I may bitch at a vig, but I ain't gonna lynch a vig if I think they shot a townie. That's just silly.

Oh, and I say noob card because that epost screamed 'newbie' to me.
sneezy1
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
April 18 2011 08:27 GMT
#194
Alright, so bashful was shot. There's one of three reasons he got shot:

1. He was on to the mafia, and they decided to shut him up.
2. Mafia had a blue read on him, possibly a vigilante/cop/medic.
3. Mafia wants to set everyone on the wrong trail and purposely shot someone suspecting someone else that's town.

Sneezy thinks it's more likely to be 3. Tiberius1's posting doesn't really look very blue-ish to Sneezy so he's guessing town. This is mainly based on the fact that he actively seems to try and put pressure on lurkers, while scum would be fine with lurkers because it means less people analyzing, so less chance to be found. He also generally gives me a town vibe with his other posts, but not really that serious a town vibe.

Woud love a reaction from Tiberius here, or if it was a vigilante shooting he really should be claiming here so the medic knows his shot saved a townie.
grumpy1
Profile Joined April 2011
31 Posts
April 18 2011 08:52 GMT
#195
On April 18 2011 17:27 sneezy1 wrote:
Alright, so bashful was shot. There's one of three reasons he got shot:

1. He was on to the mafia, and they decided to shut him up.
2. Mafia had a blue read on him, possibly a vigilante/cop/medic.
3. Mafia wants to set everyone on the wrong trail and purposely shot someone suspecting someone else that's town.

Sneezy thinks it's more likely to be 3. Tiberius1's posting doesn't really look very blue-ish to Sneezy so he's guessing town. This is mainly based on the fact that he actively seems to try and put pressure on lurkers, while scum would be fine with lurkers because it means less people analyzing, so less chance to be found. He also generally gives me a town vibe with his other posts, but not really that serious a town vibe.

Woud love a reaction from Tiberius here, or if it was a vigilante shooting he really should be claiming here so the medic knows his shot saved a townie.


Hey there! Welcome to the game!

Any particular reason you haven't showed up until now? Where was your vote last night?

And I don't think this post is really helping your case. There's no conclusions drawn here. I mean, you can't get much more wishy-washy than "He also generally gives me a town vibe with his other posts, but not really that serious a town vibe."

I also find it weird that you come out of the woodwork just to make the point that bashful was arguing with a townie. I'd be more suspicious of Tiberius now if he hadn't put his vote on you.
sneezy1
Profile Joined April 2011
17 Posts
April 18 2011 09:35 GMT
#196
On April 18 2011 17:52 grumpy1 wrote:

Hey there! Welcome to the game!

Hi.

Any particular reason you haven't showed up until now? Where was your vote last night?

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 22:46 sneezy1 wrote:

And sorry everyone for forgetting to vote someone, haven't had the best day ever, RL affairs came in the way >.<


That along with day 1 being a waste of time in my opinion as all we have to go by is posts and Sneezy also prefers forming his theories on who's being a baddie with the valuable information that is called the night-kill.


And I don't think this post is really helping your case. There's no conclusions drawn here. I mean, you can't get much more wishy-washy than "He also generally gives me a town vibe with his other posts, but not really that serious a town vibe."

I'm saying i'm leaning to him being town. Take from it what you will and if you don't like it, ignore it. It's just a general feeling both Sneezy and me get from his posts.

I also find it weird that you come out of the woodwork just to make the point that bashful was arguing with a townie. I'd be more suspicious of Tiberius now if he hadn't put his vote on you.

Just stating our opinion on the matter. We're open for discussion.


happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 18 2011 10:14 GMT
#197
@Sneezy: So you pretty much just skipped the entire D1 just to wait until someone is dead before actually doing anything?


On April 18 2011 17:27 sneezy1 wrote:'s posting doesn't really look very blue-ish to Sneezy so he's guessing town. This is mainly based on the fact that he actively seems to try and put pressure on lurkers, while scum would be fine with lurkers because it means less people analyzing, so less chance to be found. He also generally gives me a town vibe with his other posts, but not really that serious a town vibe.

Quotes of which you think are scummy (don't look very blue-ish) as well as quotes of the posts that give you the town vibe. If you're going to sit on the fence on half/half posts, I'd like you to be specific rather than general.

Lurkers are also easlier lynch targets because
1) Less posts = Less to be analyzed
2) Someone who isnt around can't defend themselves
3) A weak lurker is an easy lynch

M.O. is shoot the strong, and push lynching the weak.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 18 2011 14:52 GMT
#198
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tiberius1
Profile Joined April 2011
55 Posts
April 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#199
On April 18 2011 14:52 happy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 14:31 doc1 wrote:
On April 18 2011 14:28 happy1 wrote:
Doesn't matter; one death, pretty good asumption is that he was town.
If a vig is responsible for the kill he should claim it.

Time to do some reading.


Well i can mostly sum it up as not agreeing with augustus's fear mongering. Then FoS's Tiberius for being sorta wishy washy.

I also highly doubt a vig shot him as there is no reason for scum not to shoot at night. Probably just wanted to shoot someone that wouldnt draw then too much suspicion.

Except the points he had on Tiberius are perfectly valid.
##Vote Tiberius
Tiberius, why did you kill Bashful?


I didn't. I'm straight townie.

My thoughts on last night: I think mafia extended a bit too far here. I think that they are trying to direct town attention on me. What other reason would they have for killing the player who posted a strong scum read on me immediately after he posted it? Bashful was an easy kill; he was a lurker with brief, extremely well thought out and constructive posts, which is a pretty obvious blue tell. He also had the additional benefit of having an FOS on me which draws suspicion to myself as well.

If I were mafia I would have hit virtually anybody else (ie, happy, or another high-participating player) because killing bashful just draws attention to myself. But if I were mafia and I was trying to draw further suspicion on the scummiest looking player on the board (seriously, one sentance and you guys jumped all over me) who is also one of the biggest active contributors to the thread, I would do exactly what mafia did last night.

No, I'm convinced that happy is just jumping to the first logical conclusion he can reach, which is that I am mafia and I killed bashful because he was getting close to nailing me. Kind of a stupid leap of logic though; if I was mafia, do you really think I would be that stupid?

On April 18 2011 17:27 sneezy1 wrote:
Alright, so bashful was shot. There's one of three reasons he got shot:

1. He was on to the mafia, and they decided to shut him up.
2. Mafia had a blue read on him, possibly a vigilante/cop/medic.
3. Mafia wants to set everyone on the wrong trail and purposely shot someone suspecting someone else that's town.

Sneezy thinks it's more likely to be 3. Tiberius1's posting doesn't really look very blue-ish to Sneezy so he's guessing town. This is mainly based on the fact that he actively seems to try and put pressure on lurkers, while scum would be fine with lurkers because it means less people analyzing, so less chance to be found. He also generally gives me a town vibe with his other posts, but not really that serious a town vibe.

Woud love a reaction from Tiberius here, or if it was a vigilante shooting he really should be claiming here so the medic knows his shot saved a townie.


I'm a little confused why everyone thinks that this was a vig shot? There was only one kill. That means that either medics protected the other kill, they hit a vet, or mafia only has one kill. I'm leaning towards the third, since the chances of a medic randomly protecting one of the exact people that mafia was hitting in a 12 man game are like, 1 in 10. I suppose they could have hit a vet though... Hmm... are vets told when they are hit?

Also, if you are vig, and you didn't kill bashful, do not claim. Revealing yourself at this point is just asking for being killed. Medic should also probably lay low for a bit so that they aren't killed/roleblocked. If you did kill bashful though, theres no reason not to claim since your role is now useless to the town anyway.

Sneezy, you are still suspicious to me. Who thinks that lurking and acting scummy as hell the first day is a good way to get trusted by town?! I want sneezy to post a scumlist.

Also, is it just me or do sneezys posts look like they are written by two people? Sneezy refers to himself in the third person, but also uses phrases like "I" and "we."

Caligula, cladius, and doc need to give us their thoughts on the lynch.
tiberius1
Profile Joined April 2011
55 Posts
April 18 2011 16:36 GMT
#200
Analysis on doc coming up after class here. Might not be done until late tonight.
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