Sleeper Cell Mafia

On April 25 2011 12:21 tnkted wrote:
Everyone disregard this (crumbing for later):
DSBETNLBNTF

Now, on to the game. Trying to find scum's breadcrumbs is going to be extremely difficult imo. There are two ways I think we can play this game if breadcrumbing is vitally important:

1. Set up a posting standardization system where people refrain from using coloqualisms and any identifying characteristics. This system would have to be set up so that all players may only communicate using certain standard symbols or phrases. By simplifying the language like this we can dirastically reduce the ways in which breadcrumbing can happen. However, such a system would completely remove all sense of personality and also all other possible scumtells.

2. Not focus on breadcrumbing at all, except where it is obvious. If we focus on breadcrumbing, picking apart everybody's posts for clues and hints we're going to completely miss what we should be really looking for in those posts, which are scumtells. You can bet that since scum doesn't know who scum is, they are NOT going to want to vote for the scummiest players. Scum is going to act stranger than normal, so we can't waste time looking for scumtells. We can't stop the CL from pming his cronies, so looking for scumtells is a waste of time and town attention. Remember what happened when we focused on the item game in insane 2? We won the item game but lost the overall game. :/

Now, 1 is going to be pretty difficult to do, so I vote that we do 2.

On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:

Please share.

On April 25 2011 22:54 Ace wrote:


Well you can keep those methods to yourself since you don't seem intent on sharing. What I'm doing here is something else. Guess you'll just have to read into it a bit more.

On April 27 2011 11:28 tnkted wrote:
I actually wanted to draw a hit from mafia tonight, hopefully I did. I'll explain after the day post.

Some people weren't content letting me play my game (jackal, of whom I would expect nothing less, impervious, who I think is just new, and zorkmid, who got overly defensive when he was FOS'd and immediately latched onto what he considered the weakest player). This was pretty stupid on their part. I think most of the rest of the crew here understood that I was trying to draw mafia attention with my 'fake' slip. Ace certainly got it, when he called it bad play, and I think darm understood it. I didn't realize Ace was so well regarded in the mafia community, but apparently he is and he's probably going to be killed tonight. If I were scum I'd vote for him. Hopefully my gambit drew enough votes to save him.

Full claim after the post.

On April 27 2011 01:01 Zorkmid wrote:
Sandroba, I think you're town. You thought the same thing about me last game too and you were town then.

By the way, you're dead wrong again.

On April 27 2011 02:21 Zorkmid wrote:


If I had to guess right now who is mafia I'd say that Tkdted is the most likely. The problem is that I'm afraid that he's equally likely to be a helpful role.

Beyond him, I'd say that Mr. Wiggles is a good candidate for no other reason of inactivity.

I'm also suspicious of Sandroba, who tried to cast me as mafia in the "surprising normal game I", I feel like he is acting much like he was last game, so maybe he's changing things up on purpose.

If I were a DT, a good idea would be to check Tkdted because of his strange claim, maybe sandroba. If I was stuck for someone to check, I'd pick someone with a low post count (Im not quite sure who that is right now, but I'd find that out)

On April 28 2011 02:17 Zorkmid wrote:


I'm not worked up, but if you're aiming for best scumhunter ever, you gotta have a risk attached to it!

I basically changed my mind because Mr Wiggles became more active after pressure was put on him.

On April 29 2011 14:09 bumatlarge wrote:
I thought I could get away with not claiming today. I had reason to believe through my gut that you are an agent with jackal as cell leader. Why had the same feeling as well. Having you get lynched means I didn't have to waste a check, means jackal would either be certain CL or less likely CL and means I had another check on other people I could have done analysis on. I was hoping why would build a good case on you, take the hit as green, hopefully, and I could get in another check. I was planning on claiming if the lynch wasn't going on jackal or ace. It wasn't til after my analysis/claim that I saw you were shifting it on to me.



Fuck.

Still, lynching me doesn't matter. That's an alternative. Ace is just making either another one of his failed assessments, just like pyr in penalty, or he's scum trying to make this seem like one of his failed assessments. Jackal popping now or tomorrow would let me know which. If I don't get lynched today I can get another check off if scum doesn't kill me, which I don't see why they wouldn't.

It's up to the rest of the town, I've done my bit. I'll respond to wiggles in a moment.

On April 16 2011 19:31 sandroba wrote:
Well, I particularly think zorkmid is town because of the following:
Zorkmid analised me while I was posting analisys of scholeosis so if both zorkmid and scholeosis were mafia scholeosis wouldn't try to make him a supect. It only makes sense to me if zorkmid and scholeosis are both town or scholeosis is mafia and zorkmid is town. I'm going to follow my gut instinc that they are both town for now.If zorkmid is mafia and scholeosis is town zorkmid would know that and wouldn't mind lynching him so there was no need to pressure me.
There is no way they are both mafia as they wouldn't try to buss each other so early in the game. So I'm leaning towards zorkmid being town and I don't know for sure about scholeosis.
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On April 25 2011 21:46 Jackal58 wrote:

Please share.

On April 25 2011 23:14 Jackal58 wrote:

Well thanks for that. And how would you transmit this information? You said you can do so without posting anything in the thread. I'm curious how that mechanic would work. You can't send names. You can only contact 1 at a time. You have 5 words or 20 characters/msg.
Please don't answer that. God forbid the cell leader gets his hands on super secret stealth communications abilities.
Please stop posting pointless "I would do something but I'm not telling you what it is" posts.
This thread is for discussion. If you don't feel you can discuss something don't mention it. You're beginning to look a lot like somebody that wants to post a lot of useless stuff just to appear to be contributing.

On May 02 2011 23:25 Jackal58 wrote:

I am not the cell leader. I am not scum. Those messages are pure fabrication by Ace.
I also resent the implication that I'm stupid. "Herp derp. Stoopid messages Jackal must be the cell leader derp"
You're scum. I know it. You know it. Ace knows it. Claiming Vig/vet tandem is as old as this game is. They're both one and done roles that require no further actions from you guys because you would have none. So easy peasy claims to make.
If Ace was vig/sooper spy or whatever he wants to call it he would have claimed his shot moments before the day post went up. Anything after that is suspect. You popping up with a vet claim right after his sooper spy claim is just as bogus. You two are scum.

On May 03 2011 00:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I want Sandroba to post his full role. At the moment, I'm not sure if I believe him or not, because it seems pretty weird for several reasons. Firstly, why did scum hit him? He was lurking so hard on day 2 that when he posted his vet claim, I needed to check the player list to make sure he was actually in the game. So, I don't get why two or more members of the mafia thought that it was best to hit him, but not any other, more active, player. Next is the name of the role, which doesn't say much by itself, but my gut reaction is to be suspicious, especially with such a short claim.

So, I'd like to ask san to post the full text of his role, because that might help clear things up or not. If he's lying, then I think our scum team is Ace/San/Varp.

Down-on-your-luck Stock Broker
Everything was going you way in the mid 2000s. Then the economy tanked, you lost most of your wealth, and your wife divorced you and took what was left! Now you are stuck roaming the streets of Liquidville. Because you are homeless, everyone in town is suspicious of you – investigations on you will always return “Not Town”. Fortunately for you, though, at night you can disappear into the alleyways, making it impossible to find (and then shoot) you!