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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 06 2011 11:47 GMT
#502
On February 06 2011 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 11:06 GMarshal wrote:
Damnit! I was sure he was scum, I guess we are lynching darmousseh then?

Yep. Then we'll go ahead and lynch shann.

Sure go ahead. I'm already sure that you're mafia or just stupidly bad.
You've accused Cubed/Chaoser and now me. Cubed thought you're mafia. Chaoser thought you're mafia. I was already saying you're mafia. Can't be coincidence right?

On February 06 2011 12:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Well we'll just have to wait until Day 3 to see what happens. I think we should vote or shann, the clues point toward him on Day 2. What makes you think I'm mafia based on posting behavior?

I think the scumteam is you and shann or node and shann. But I'm most sure of shann so I'll wait until Day 3 to figure out who should be lynched after him. Assuming I live that long.

And the clues on day 2 doesn't point towards you remotely? I agree that the clues points towards me but the clues fit you better.
On February 06 2011 12:29 Node wrote:
I suppose I should respond, lest people actually listen to darmousseh.

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On February 06 2011 11:56 darmousseh wrote:
Wow node, chaoser had you figured out right at the beginning with that random vote. You bussed the very first mafia in order to get the idea that you are mafia out right from the start. When mr wiggles figured out the clues you quickly agreed with him (in 6 mins) and then proceeded from there. Node you have had absolutely 0 contributions. Go back and read everything he has said.


Right, because I did the clue research and wrote that whole post in the space of six minutes. I'm not going to argue that my analysis was better than Mr. Wiggles', or anything of that nature. But is your argument here really that I dashed out something appearing as clue analysis the moment Mr. Wiggles posted what he saw? I hope that the other players can recognize coincidence when they see it.

And of course you're the last person to actually vote for Jackal, long after the vote has been decided. And of course Jackal puts his vote on you, likely in an attempt to distance you two as much as possible. You want to talk about agreeing after the fact? How about this post?

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On January 30 2011 02:41 shannn wrote:
Upon reading the rest of the comments I have to agree with Mr. Wiggles and Node. Especially Wiggles's explaination points towards Carlos the Jackal. Similar events and himself being a terrorist as well.

That last part of LSB about gravel does make it sound like it's Gaara but the rest of the story doesn't fit him as it seems it's all about 1 person and the story fits others moreso than him.

But let's not exlude the writer as well. Has that writer any stories which is similar to the situations LSB has written?

For now it seems it's either Carlos the Jackal or the writer.


DrH seems to be advocating that we lynch outside of us two before we make this decision. Doctor, are you really so sure of shann that you think he's more likely to be mafia than a 50/50 between myself and darmousseh? Town can't afford to mislynch. Of course, I know I'm town, so I think it's safer to lynch darmousseh. I agree that shann is suspicious, but I feel we simply have less to go on there.

Node you are making it so that DrH is green for sure while he's been so suspicious. Just look above and see who he's accused so far. I'm willing to get lynched but then it's going to alarm that DrH is scum.
On February 06 2011 12:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 12:29 Node wrote:
I suppose I should respond, lest people actually listen to darmousseh.

On February 06 2011 11:56 darmousseh wrote:
Wow node, chaoser had you figured out right at the beginning with that random vote. You bussed the very first mafia in order to get the idea that you are mafia out right from the start. When mr wiggles figured out the clues you quickly agreed with him (in 6 mins) and then proceeded from there. Node you have had absolutely 0 contributions. Go back and read everything he has said.


Right, because I did the clue research and wrote that whole post in the space of six minutes. I'm not going to argue that my analysis was better than Mr. Wiggles', or anything of that nature. But is your argument here really that I dashed out something appearing as clue analysis the moment Mr. Wiggles posted what he saw? I hope that the other players can recognize coincidence when they see it.

And of course you're the last person to actually vote for Jackal, long after the vote has been decided. And of course Jackal puts his vote on you, likely in an attempt to distance you two as much as possible. You want to talk about agreeing after the fact? How about this post?

On January 30 2011 02:41 shannn wrote:
Upon reading the rest of the comments I have to agree with Mr. Wiggles and Node. Especially Wiggles's explaination points towards Carlos the Jackal. Similar events and himself being a terrorist as well.

That last part of LSB about gravel does make it sound like it's Gaara but the rest of the story doesn't fit him as it seems it's all about 1 person and the story fits others moreso than him.

But let's not exlude the writer as well. Has that writer any stories which is similar to the situations LSB has written?

For now it seems it's either Carlos the Jackal or the writer.


DrH seems to be advocating that we lynch outside of us two before we make this decision. Doctor, are you really so sure of shann that you think he's more likely to be mafia than a 50/50 between myself and darmousseh? Town can't afford to mislynch. Of course, I know I'm town, so I think it's safer to lynch darmousseh. I agree that shann is suspicious, but I feel we simply have less to go on there.


darmousseh is lying about your post behavior, you were the one to make the case on jackal58 in the first place. he's using deceptive practices and operating under the assumption that we all believe he is town. Why? Because he made a case on pandain like an hour before Pandain got shot to clear darmousseh's name? That's absurd.

Shann's post behavior is atrociously scummy though. I believe the clues from day 2 are pointing toward shann. So I want to wait until day 3 to see who is the scum between you and darmousseh.

My posts are scummy? I'm saying what I think about the progress and plans of everyone. You on the other hand have been constantly pointing fingers not based on clues but based on your own experience which hasn't helped town at all. Sure you directed away from Chaoser at the last moment but that just seemed so suspicious for a mafia play. Every time you accuse someone of being mafia ends up dead and shows that they're town. I want you to show something based on clues on me since this is a clues game and not post behavior since it hasn't helped town at all so far and for you.

It's going to be lylo day 4 so we have to guess correctly whom to lynch between darmousseh and node.

I even volunteered to be a sacrifice to prove that I'm town but everyone wanted to go with darmousseh and node. It would've been better if it were Node and I because then since Node is the most likeliest town person than we would've hit mafia more likely and I'd have gotten rid of the suspicions on me. But you and darmousseh didn't want that to happen so I agreed on that.

Very subtle play by you if you're mafia else just stupid as townie why we didn't go by that. We'd got rid of me if we hit town and we'd narrow down the possible suspects of mafia which my intentions were you/kenpachi/chaoser. Now that I know that Chaoser isn't scum then that leaves you and Kenpachi but seeing Kenpachi so far I'd be going more onto you than anything.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 08 2011 00:11 GMT
#510
It's a lylo. If darmousseh isn't mafia then we're screwed as town and we lose. I just hope we got this right.

##Vote darmousseh
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 08 2011 04:21 GMT
#525
I thought darmousseh was the one who came up with the plan and with the people. I remember darmousseh making a post about it that he suggested the plan to drH which is suspicious now that he says drH was the one suggesting Node should be the volunteer.

And I've said it before. If we got townie out of it then it's still going to be a guess. Post behavior can help us but we don't have much on those 2 in the first place.

Node didn't do anything whereas darmousseh did a lot in day 3.
It does say something about Node just being quiet but something scummy?

We people are forgetting that there are 2 mafia left. The 2nd mafia will help the other mafia in order to get a mafia win right here. We need to tread carefully how we approach this. We know darmousseh or node is mafia and the other one must be helping them just to push for the wrong vote.

Kenpachi and Gmarshall being like sheeps should think for themselves rather than listening to others. You 2 are the perfect people to bait for mafia right now.

I can't imagine Node being mafia but darmousseh just PM'ed me accusing that Node and I was mafia that both of us are convincing others to vote against darmousseh but like I said before. Node hasn't said anything and I know I'm town. What would the reason darmousseh pming me have if he were mafia? Most logical would be that he's trying to save town which would make me think about it but it may as well be a last ditch effort to bring me off my path to finding mafia.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 08 2011 04:48 GMT
#528
On February 08 2011 13:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Unvote Darmousseh

##Vote Shann

Need to stick with post behavior. Not to mention he is the best fit for day 2. Unless your analysis is amazing I'm sticking with this and I suggest the town sheep me. Shann has done nothing except for defend himself and accuse me of being mafia really. If he flips red then we can kiss Node goodbye. If not this game is probably lost and I'd guess that the mafia team is darmousseh/kenpachi.

If you guys want to go with the 50/50 between darm and node go ahead but please do your own analysis. Read all of their posts and think about what they are trying to accomplish. Don't focus on things like inconsistency/inactivity because that isn't very important. I personally believe town is more likely to make mistakes than mafia since they are less careful about posting (no implicit guilt)

Well atleast you're consistent in changing your mind.

I have been defending myself whole time? Really? Acussing you of mafia whole time? Really?
If you hadn't noticed I even thought you were green before day 2 but with the way things has worked out after day 2 I've noticed that you just accuse everyone of mafia. This hasn't helped town at all. Which is why I find it so scummy of you. Pointing fingers and just vote for them for no good reason. Analysing posts?
And people actually believe that crap you do. Just the past 24 hours you've accused darmousseh/node AND me now. Before that it was cubed and chaoser and we all know how that happened. You're just bad for town or you're mafia. Either way I should've pushed to lynch you whether you're town or mafia when we found out cubed was town because you're dragging everyone down.

And it can't be a coincidence when chaoser/cubed thought you were mafia.

If you really are town then you should be analysing Darmousseh/Node first because one of those 2 is lying and mafia. After that you can focus on me all you want. I'll be doing the same on you.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 08 2011 05:05 GMT
#533
On February 08 2011 13:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
lol what else are you suppoosed to do except accuse/find mafia

that's the whole point of this fucking game. lol i didn't want cubed lynched and I didn't want chaoser lynched. the only lynch I followed through on was jackal58. your accusation of me being mafia is basically this

"Well you caught mafia day 1 and then you accused people wrongly but changed your mind when you figured they were probably town but because town lynched them and you ended up right, you must be mafia!"

what do you want me to do? follow through with the incorrect lynches or just perfectly pick mafia every time? dumb.

I didn't say you should not accuse people. I said that your way of accusing people just by post behavior has been wrong so far. You haven't analysed much at all. What good has your way of helping us done so far? Nothing. Everyone just went along with you which is why I'm not doing it anymore. It sucked for town because this is how we lost Cubed. You've set up accusing Chaoser whole game and then when Chaoser said he was medic you found the opportunity to actually benefit on this by not accusing him because everyone else like me thought it might be right but also a last ditch effort.

In either way when Chaoser is lynched or not you would not be in suspicion.
And no you didn't caught mafia day 1. You didn't do an analysis at all. You were the first one to vote for Jackal without reasoning either. Sorry but I'm not buying that crap.
On February 08 2011 13:51 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2011 13:21 shannn wrote:
I thought darmousseh was the one who came up with the plan and with the people. I remember darmousseh making a post about it that he suggested the plan to drH which is suspicious now that he says drH was the one suggesting Node should be the volunteer.

And I've said it before. If we got townie out of it then it's still going to be a guess. Post behavior can help us but we don't have much on those 2 in the first place.

Node didn't do anything whereas darmousseh did a lot in day 3.
It does say something about Node just being quiet but something scummy?

We people are forgetting that there are 2 mafia left. The 2nd mafia will help the other mafia in order to get a mafia win right here. We need to tread carefully how we approach this. We know darmousseh or node is mafia and the other one must be helping them just to push for the wrong vote.

Kenpachi and Gmarshall being like sheeps should think for themselves rather than listening to others. You 2 are the perfect people to bait for mafia right now.

I can't imagine Node being mafia but darmousseh just PM'ed me accusing that Node and I was mafia that both of us are convincing others to vote against darmousseh but like I said before. Node hasn't said anything and I know I'm town. What would the reason darmousseh pming me have if he were mafia? Most logical would be that he's trying to save town which would make me think about it but it may as well be a last ditch effort to bring me off my path to finding mafia.


Shann, that was the most brilliant post ever, but I think I just figured it out.

So I promised clues and here they are.

Suspect Q

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounter_at_Farpoint

Q threatens to destroy humanity for its crimes.
Using his magical powers he forces picard and the others to pass a test.
Twice he freezes people to show his power, once at a random lieutenant, then again he freezes lieutenant yar.
Eventually picard and the others discover the secret of farpoint station which is the two trapped aliens.


Clue #1 threatens to destroy humanity
Clue #2 two trapped aliens, or a reference to the fact that Q froze exactly 2 people.(the aliens are blue which is what they look like in the show too. Also one lego guy has a suit which looks similar to the one in the episode.
Clue #3 Q's freezing ability
Clue #4 Q's magical ability.


Here are some clips from the show
+ Show Spoiler +
Q threatens to destroy humanity.[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
Freezing lieutenant Yar.[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
The guy with the suit that looks like the one in the lego scene.[image loading]



The final thing is that the heart of darkness is a reference to the fact that Q judged that humanity was dangerous
+ Show Spoiler +
But you can't deny Captain, that
you're still a dangerous, savage
child-race.

PICARD
Most certainly I deny it. I agree
that we still were when ...
(indicating)
... humans wore costumes like that
four hundred years ago...

"Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN)
At which time you slaughtered
millions in silly arguments about
how to divide the resources of
your little world. And four
hundred years before that you were
murdering each other in quarrels
over tribal god-images. And since
there have been no indications
that humans will ever change
.....


Which is almost the entire premise of the book heart of darkness.


My new plan then is this, vote shann and town wins

##Unvote
##Vote: Shannn






Good analysis I'll give you that but the clues aren't about me. I can't defend myself because I've already pointed out why I think the day 2 clues are not about me and I was not the only one. I can't believe it tbh. Even cubed said that when we lynch him we should look at drH after. How can those hints not be so straighforward then? It's so simple yet people ignore them. It's mindblowing.

I have to agree with Cubed that town should lose.
So everyone can vote for me and then just think about themselves.

It's quite clever that darmousseh AND drH are accusing me using different reasoning to get rid of me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 08 2011 05:13 GMT
#535
It is amazing that people are not focussing on the task at hand too. I won't say no to accuse someone but there are 2 people now which atleast 1 of them is mafia. Yet people are now diverting from the plan EVEN the creator. We've figured out the scenario's which is if the lynched is town which is true then the remaining people has atleast 1 mafia. But everyone ignores this. Analysing their post behavior is top priority yet not doing that. Especially with the 2 sheeps, town is surely going to lose when 2 mafia is voting against me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 09 2011 03:20 GMT
#564
lol game's already over.

Since I was already being lynched I didn't want to bother help town anymore. It was kind of obvious we'd lose because Cubed and Chaoser tried to save town by saying LOOK AT THEM when we die and everyone just looked away except me. After I realised it was pointless I didn't want to bother anything since I couldn't convince others anyways. I mean when I said focus at the task at hand and everyone just not doing that lol.

Was my first time and enjoyed it nonetheless congrats to mafia I guess.

I learned a lot out of this game :d Not relying on the experienced player (drH), looking at the people that bussed right away. Try to sacrifice the sheep (Kenpachi) and more importantly try to actually stay focused on the task at hand. What more?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
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