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EDIT: I died in XXXVI and minmafia V is over so I guess I'm now officially /in | ||
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Same! T.T EDIT: re-reading that I take it that he has written but not sent 25/30 pms and will send them out when he has all 30 done. | ||
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 Come on chaoser just by reading the rules I can tell its going to be an epic game, perhaps one to rival insane mafia in its insanity! | ||
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I like your imaginary numbers kitaman, however I think coag is actually a decent player, even if his posting habits leave something to be desired, Alright so its time to post something constructive The way I see it among all the role pms are going to function much like clues, I would bet that among the 30 or so pms out there there is enough information to tie most of the names in the game to roles or alignment, thus what town has to do to "flip" lynches is find out which player or players has information related to that name and figure out what the player was, as usual this is a game of information, the more the town has the better prepared we will be to win. | ||
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(this is what happens when I post while trying to integrate) | ||
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I will think about lynching coag however, since the only game I think I have played with him was XXXVI, I will look at his Salem and other games he has played in the past and judge from there. He seemed ok in XXXVI, managing to identify some mafia members (not that he managed to persuade anyone to hang them though) I will continue to anxiously await the day post | ||
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On February 11 2011 13:26 Coagulation wrote: At this point in the game has ANYONE made an attempt to find scum?? We are a whole 15 minutes into the game, by now you should have a very solid idea of who the scum team is and have come up a list that we can use to hunt them, the fact that you have failed to produce such a list makes you most suspicious in my eyes. | ||
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Also I just noticed this is a PM allowed game, this can make things rather interesting. As for the vote today I agree with killing inactives, I'm rather wound up about the level of inactivity in XXXVI, for that reason I'm going to go with Zerroth at least until we get some activity out of him ##Vote: Zerroth | ||
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which if I understand correctly means Zerroth dosn't necessarily have to vote/talk today Is that interpretation wrong? If so what does this rule mean exactly? | ||
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On February 12 2011 06:54 Ace wrote: The people voting for Zerroth should be DT checked on Night 1 for sure. Anyway since our characters are based on what went on in the Totalwar forums, players from the totalwar website can you post and give us the characteristics or play style of some of the players there? And the people who voted Coag shouldn't? not that I mind being DT checked, but I dont see what issue you have with people voting for a known lurker. Although I agree with the second point, also try doing a search for your characters name on the totalwar forums, you can get a decent number of hits. | ||
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Hi Siniquity! I look forward to reading your thoughts shortly ##Unvote Zerroth ##Vote Siniquity | ||
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Also note that predetermined events occur at ties, do we want to force one to see what happens? (I'm honestly curious as to what the something in "In the event of a tie, something will happen" is) | ||
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On February 12 2011 13:29 Coagulation wrote: To be honest I dont think that anyone who has posted in the last 5 or so pages is mafia I feel like we got a pretty good textbook example of mafia sitting back and watching town take turns fucking each other in the ass. I can´t agree more with this, I have a strong feeling mafia is just sitting back laughing their asses off as we try to rip each others head off, for this reason I propose we stick with lynching a lurker/inactive, if mafia *is* being inactive then its likely that that will at least gallivant them into posting something which we can analyze | ||
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On February 12 2011 14:43 JBright wrote: Right now Zerroth has a clear lead in the votes, but have we confirmed what will happen if we get a tie in the votes? Something predetermined by the mod will occur, as to what "something" is I have no idea, I am kind of curious though | ||
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SiNiquity post, post, post! I can't bear the inactivity! | ||
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On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote: I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so: http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif Sorry? I refuse to let this game become really inactive with mafia leading the town in circles, to be honest the rules about lurking are really lenient, so if we don't set a strong precedent of killing inactives its going to become a game of lurkers while mafia snipe whom ever dares to speak up. Is there some other lurking player you would like to propose for pressure? I only chose you because you were my choice last time. | ||
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On February 14 2011 09:00 kitaman27 wrote: I told him aidnai should be lynched. I told you that too. My hate towards him wasn't really a secret. But now we're cool. ^_^ So I'm guessing kita's role makes him hate someone every day? or perhaps he feels either hate or friendship towards aidnai randomly every day? Either way we can conclude that Ace was hit and that aidnai made a rather large blunder by claiming. | ||
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Unvote SiNiquity Vote Misder | ||
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Happy Birthday pevergreen! | ||
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##Vote GGQ | ||
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The fact that he is being so blatantly scummy, what would scum gain from playing this way? If he were scum then why isn't he defending himself? If we hadn't had 5 modkills I'd be fine with just lynching him, but I realize now that if we don't hit mafia today then 2 more townies are going to be brutally murdered tonight, we aren't in a good spot right now and I dont think we can afford a mislynch. GGQ please post at least your name so we can use that to discuss weather or not to lynch. (according to the op there are no roles that win by being lynched, so you can't want to die) | ||
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in reply to Insanious , I don't but when town all jumps on a single lynch and there is next to no protest along with the person being lynched happily spouting nonsense there's something wrong, at least in my opinion. I had some hope that maybe GGQ would be a little bit more helpful, but I guess not. Also LD, I hadn't considered that as a viable defense method, mostly because it seems so strange. Note that I still don't believe GGQ is scum, but since he seems to be hanging himself, I won't stop him. The fact that we have pretty much decided a lynch does not mean that we should stop scumhunting however, we need to get cracking on that since as far as we know its 13 to 3 probably with a third party out there who may or may not be interested in helping town. I really do not have time to do an analysis of anyone right now, however I will try to get one done during the night cycle today, but please for the love of god people don't get complacent because we have a set lynch for today. | ||
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Subject: Orgah mafia Role PM Date: 2/11/11 09:45 You are Beskar You post a fair bit, analyse well and are generally well liked. From Britain, you tend to dislike ‘Engrish’ and bastardisations of your language. You have an intense rivalry with ‘atheotes’ who often gets randomly selected as mafia. In fact, its almost a rule that ‘atheotes is always mafia’ You are [I]Town[I] Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated. Reply | ||
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Si rejoice we have at most 2 mafia left to kill | ||
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Also since there seems to be some debate about atheotes being a DT, I think its likely, actually I'm sure he was. that dosn't clear him of being scum. Its not that confusing, because I omitted the last line of my role, since I didn't want to expose myself, but here goes + Show Spoiler + You are able, once each night phase, to investigate a single person. You will receive their character name as a result. as to who I checked, I checked Node (who turned out to be AskThePizzaGuy, but that was revealed on his death and Coagulation who turned out to be TosaInu) These two roles are parallel, My guess is he had my name/the name of a major protown player in his PM as well with some juicy information about their role or some other motivation to hunt them down | ||
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On February 17 2011 04:25 darmousseh wrote: Since I am not allowed to reveal my role I will only ask Why would a mafia claim a DT role to someone who is likely a townie? Also, don't assume everything in your role is true. You make good points, I'm fine with you not believing my role PM/not believing me But scum claiming DT to a townie can be really helpful, it helps them get into a town circle if any exists, form one under their leadership if one doesn't and it allows him to fish for more information, at this point I can only speculate, but I suspect that much like I had information about atheotes in my PM he too had information about some player (probably me as this set up seems to like linked roles) that was a prime mafia target (if not me then probably some medic/vigi role), thus he was trying to determine as many names as possible to track down his target. This is all WIFOM however, all I know for sure is that he did role claim to you and attempted to form a town circle | ||
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On February 17 2011 12:11 why wrote: buwsrkchvvneeveomyqiwnvahbwsrqtbbvckurksnosyabuwrgpsewgggtuqggwafsgrwfnzmxwygwashzrnibcggwafsgrqggqsvdlrzuiglymcxbcqf your contribution is exceedingly helpful, it was very insightful and pretty much won the game for the town, I'm glad you chose to contribute such a detailed in depth analysis, I especially like the metagame analysis on page 4 and the syntax deconstruction of the day posts on page 6. Thank you for also cross-referencing the index | ||
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no offense was meant | ||
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On February 17 2011 12:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Nice cipher, too bad I decrypted it. "I, why, do hereby admit to being a scummy mafia player who writes in code, and I sure hope you don't solve this, lynch if you do please." The cat's out of the bag. :p I was going to say its just random text, but then I counted letters, I think it may actually be a cypher, I'm going to fool around with it, its likely its just random letters, but it may not be. Here's the letter count if anyone cares letter How many letters A 5 B 7 C 5 D 1 E 4 F 4 G 14 H 3 I 3 J K 3 L 2 M 3 N 5 O 2 P 1 Q 6 R 8 S 9 T 2 U 6 V 5 W 10 X 2 Y 4 Z 3 | ||
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also GGQ, nice to see you contributing now, I'm sorry that your role made you die like that. | ||
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I survived the night so as promised my check, I ended up checking chaoser, he is Yaseikhaan. Now someone interpret that for me, I have no clue what that means | ||
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As of right now I'm going to consider it as 4 separate puzzles, 1 is the poem, 2 is the unbolded cypher, 3 is the numbers and 4 is the bolded cypher, I am almost certain he is using the same cypher for all his bolded messages, and have been trying to crack it accordingly, I really didn't get very far So, my preliminary thoughts on this 1.) I am unsure if the fact that it is from hamlet has any relationship with the puzzle, note the fact that there are 3 colors, blue, green and red, corresponding to the roles that may be in the game, there are 13 colored words, 6 red, 4 green and 3 blue, I suspect each word may be linked to a player and serve as a hint to their identity, I'll check to see if any of them are anagrams of names of current people, but I doubt they are. I also think it may be a good idea to consider synonyms of the words and see if they link to any names (e.g. if the querry where in there it could mean ask and that might tie into "ask the pizza guy" if he were still alive). Its also possible that you can arrange the provided words into an understandable sentence, finally it may be a hint towards solving the cypher, although I fail to see how 2.) since this isn't bolded I believe it uses a different cypher, perhaps one that is much easier to crack, I'll give it a whirl 3.) No clue, I'll look for patterns, it may relate to either 1, 2 or 4 4.) This is another cypher code, I think it uses the same code as the previous ones, I may be wrong, so if you do try to solve it consider them independently of each other | ||
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"HERRINGS ARE ALWAYS RED CKNXOCC LOPYBO TOKVYECI" for #2, which seems to refer back to the red text in # 1 2nd half of the message seems to use a different cypher, I'll try sliding 8 in the opposite direction | ||
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(wow, sorry for spamming, but I get really excited when I solve puzzles) | ||
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On February 18 2011 07:23 kitaman27 wrote: I'll be upset if that is so, where did you get that from? | ||
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##Vote: thefluffyone93 anyone have any ideas as to what to do with why's puzzle? I seem to be stuck, there are 7 words left and I have 14 numbers to play with so I assume the two are related, I suspect that each number is a letter in a word and that they are either matches for the cypher or they spell out something useful | ||
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On February 18 2011 10:55 SiNiquity wrote: I wish. Just names, but there's gotta be some name / mafia connection else why have the name checker to begin with? why would it even matter? Sadly I've yet to see any evidence supporting this. Well I had the fact that atheotes was mafia in my PM, I was convinced at the beginning of the game that other people had names that were known to be mafia in their PMs as well, but apparently I was wrong/they died/they dont want to share, I'd ask for people to PM if they know, but that goes against the rules. Either way even if we have decided to hang fluffy, (that seems to be the current consensus) we should consider other targets as well | ||
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On February 18 2011 11:54 chaoser wrote: Ok, 1 mistake I can understand, 2 I can understand, but three people with weird c/p of their PMs? That's a little weird. Is there some sort of faction that WANTS to die? There's no joke roles right? You do realize that pevergreen wrote out each PM individually, which means its easily possible he made some mistakes/wasn't entirely consistent, I mean he did write 30 individual PMs, so mistakes are possible | ||
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it reads Thekeytothismessageisoneoftwonamesthatpevergreengavemeofwhichoneismykillertheothernamewillcometomorrow or The key to this message is one of two names that pevergreen gave me of which one is my killer the other name will come tomorrow the key was deconduo the second one will be coming soon | ||
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Thesecondnameiwasgivenisthekeytothismessageeitherthekeytothismessageorthekeytomypreviousmessageismykillergoodlucktown or The second name i was given is the key to this message either the key to this message or the key to my previous message is my killer good luck town so, I think we have two targets to debate tomorrow, thanks to Mr.Wiggles and deconduo without their help I could not have cracked the code | ||
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pevergreen, are there players that can share information from their PMs with with the town after dead in any way shape or form? can you clarify if why's information was legitimate or if he was just being sadisticly cruel? I dont know bum, you seem might aggravated by this | ||
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also while am at it pevergreen is there text in anyones pm's (red or otherwise) that affects their behavior after death in any way shape of form? | ||
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Personally I dont think why would bother being so deviously crafty after his death for no reason/to waste town's time hence I think we can use his puzzles as at least a guide, I believe we were considering Insanious anyway for his lurking behavior. Also do either of you two want to claim 3rd party/ vigi roles? | ||
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On February 19 2011 14:36 kitaman27 wrote: If why were to purposely mislead town, then the two people town was suspicious of would be the best choices for him to accuse. I find it weird that he identified two different names. After night hits would probably be a good time for anyone who has used a vig shot to claim. yes but i find it interesting that both people mentioned by why are still alive a couple of days after he posted their names, I would expect one or the other to have died just statistically, this reinforces the idea that one or both of them belong to some third party/mafia who is working to keep them alive. It could also be luck. Since we have no guarantee that the information is good I propose we take it with a brick of salt and use behavioral analysis among other things to pinpoint mafia either way I look forward to seeing why's role PM at the end of the game | ||
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In this case we have to consider who of the remaining players is the godfather (Im assuming there aren't two goons left because that would mean town is fucked either way) the remaining players after we hang Insanious are SiNiquity gryffindor Beefy187 chaoser GMarshal I'm going to remove myself from the list because its likely that I will be hit and killed tonight, and because I know I am town. Of the remaining players I have the highest amount of suspicion on SiNiquity because after responding to my inactivity pokes he just vanished into thin air, although none are clear, chaoser I believe to be town, but I cannot guarantee it Now, let me go back and see who of the remaining players claimed | ||
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##Vote Insanious Also, I claimed, chaoser claimed, Insanious claimed, did anyone else claim? | ||
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On February 20 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote: Why would scum want people to vote? I've PMed the two I think are townie that haven't voted/posted in thread too. Scum would just be content to let people get mod killed/no activity. There's no reason for me to push you as a lynch candidate if I was red. Actualy I disagree with this, I don't think you are scum chaos but if you were you would want to lynch the SK really badly, as if he survives victory is a tossup (5 people at the beginning of the night/ 3 die, worst case scenario Sk gets you or its you and sk left, leading to a draw), if only the GF is left then as long as he can convince a townie he can win the game. Either way I'm convinced that Insanious is the SK and should die | ||
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On February 20 2011 11:32 SiNiquity wrote: It's not a risk. Tonight and tomorrow is LyLo. Either we win with both lynches, or we lose the game. It's irrelevant in which order. Fine, can we agree to do SK today then please? | ||
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On February 20 2011 12:09 chaoser wrote: Whatever clearly you are retarded, I leave it to the rest of town. GG. When you lose the game I hope you're happy. I can't argue with you anymore cause you're dead set on the idea that you're a genius and right. What's the theme to this game? Every character is related to their role. What about that one name claim that said he is always mafia? Who was that? Atheotes, and he probably *was* mafia, or are you referring to something else? Either way SiNiquity, please do me a favor and vote for the SK, we can look at the survivors after tonight and make up our minds | ||
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On February 21 2011 02:52 chaoser wrote: I was reading over darmousseh's posts and I was wondering, why do we think he's red again? Cause of his PM text? Didn't he die via modkill by claiming DT in PMs? We KNOW he is mafia because in my PM it says clearly "In fact, its almost a rule that ‘atheotes is always mafia’" We have to assume that our PMs aren't lying to us so, obviously darmousseh is mafia, he has the same DT power I have because our roles are parallel, his is probably about the intense rivalry he has with Beskar, remember knowing names is an ability that is as useful to the mafia as it is to us Either way assuming I survive the night, who should I namecheck? | ||
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On February 21 2011 21:25 deconduo wrote: There was one kill so SK is still out there, Insanious was GF obviously. Its mylo so vote no lynch today to better the odds. Except no lynch isn't a possibility, also in my opinion we did hit the SK and the GF is still alive, he just payed attention to one of my hints, in which I suggested that he *had* to only kill one person in case we had missed the SK with the lynch. Its also possible that someone had a vet like ability and absorbed a hit, which would confirm them as town (if so, then claim right away). At the very least this clears chaoser as a possible suspect. I'm not sure of who among the remaining players is scum, however as soon as I am done with this pesky physics exam I'll go ahead and take a closer look Oh, by the way beefy is Chaotix. | ||
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On February 21 2011 21:25 deconduo wrote: There was one kill so SK is still out there, Insanious was GF obviously. Its mylo so vote no lynch today to better the odds. Also, if you are wrong and we did hit the SK and the GF is still left alive then that guarantees him the win. No, we *have* to lynch today. | ||
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On February 21 2011 21:50 deconduo wrote: Yah I misread the rules, you can't no lynch. Hmm tough one then, I was pretty certain with insanious. At this point I think its time to lynch GMarshal. He's the only veteran TL player that wasn't killed which speaks volumes. In addition, beefy pointed out that in .org games, the SK gets a night kill and a rolecheck, which would also point towards GMarshal. I hate to tell you but if I were the GF the last person I would have killed would have been chaoser, as he was the one being pointed out as mafia before the day ended, I think whoever killed him made a stupid move, but then again it does set me up as the last surviving TL mafia "vet" (I don't consider myself a veteran by any means, but thanks) | ||
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(For reference PYP2, XXXI and XXXVI, I knew the name seemed familiar) | ||
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On February 21 2011 23:53 deconduo wrote: Also you are who I suspect most, but it really could be any of the last 4. Its a close call as everyone has stuff pointing towards them. When you look at the SK kills: Why, Aidnai, Deconduo, Chaoser I feel GMarshal fits the profile best. Ok, you are feel to free however you wish, however out of the remaining players I'm probably the one who contributed the most. Also SK killed why, why left a riddle, why would I work on solving the riddle (by the way anyone who wants to can verify it) if I thought it might point to the SK, this makes very little sense to me. I suspect SiNiquity to be honest, he fits the profile of a lurking player (like all the other survivors, save me actually) with experience on TL. I'm going to hold off on voting until I collect more evidence/see if anyone claims to have survived the second hit (if there was one) | ||
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On February 22 2011 00:29 darmousseh wrote: gmarshal is most likely not the SK. You are scum, I think you are saying that to throw suspicion on me by defending me. I do not know if you are still playing towards you victory conditions (I'm unsure if they still apply after death), but if so you will not succeed in framing me. Also Beefy, I'm calling you out, for some reason our discussions always seem to neglect you. So I found what your name is, you are Chaotix, now care to roleclaim? Also does anyone know anything about Chaotix? | ||
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On February 22 2011 00:50 chaoser wrote: He claimed like ages ago, apparently if he dies there's some sort of curse or something. Now that I think about it, probably SK is the only one alive GF would want to keep me around. There's no reason to kill me since there's so much "evidence" against me. Also I'd like to say HA YOUS IS WRONGG SIN He did... I must have missed it... ok. I think a SK would want to keep you around chaoser just because the case against you was so strong that it was likely you were going to be lynched. (I know that had you survived the night I was going to go ahead and do a post by post analysis of you) However now that I am thinking I think beefy is the GF (or SK, but I think we got the SK), of all the people left he has the scummiest read IMO. SiNiquity actually has a very solid name claim (I just went back and read it) it seems fairly solid, and I dont think a scum role would also have a day kill. gryffindor I feel is town (nothing really solid there) I know I'm town, that just leaves beefy. | ||
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On February 22 2011 02:11 darmousseh wrote: No, you are reading too much into this. I really doubt that you are the SK. It simply wouldn't make any sense. I'm trying to get suspicion off of you. Ok, I'll take your support then, I know I'm not the SK. | ||
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(Posts in spoilers, my comments in Bold ) + Show Spoiler + Vote: Ace Its my policy to vote for people who votes for me. I'll make them pay... Now I don't know most of you, but I'm glad that fluffy is behaving well... His my responsibility and its nice to see him playing properly. Well, as far as policies go I think the "vote for whomever votes for me" policy is stupid, but I won't say that its scummy, although it would serve as a good mask for bandwagoning with scum by saying "he voted for me". Its interesting to note that Ace died that night. This is also beefy's first post, and its on page 17 + Show Spoiler + Oh and sorry for coming here late. I'm looking forward to getting to know you all. post immediately following the above one, nothing to comment on it, seems courteous enough + Show Spoiler + That helps. Unvote, Vote: gryffindor I didn't think Ace is that guilty either. And I don't plan to get him lynched. this is another "he voted for me" post, unless its in his red text I dont understand this policy at all. I dont think there is more to note here other than why would you vote for a player you don't think is guilty in the first place? + Show Spoiler + @ pevergreen, Coagulation Understood. Cheers for the clarification. discussion of usual tl modkill rules, irrelevant + Show Spoiler + To unvote, does one have to put unvote and vote in a seperate line? I thought I changed my vote to gryffindor Anyhow if anyone is to attack me tonight, they will regret it. I will use the full power of the force on you. Fear the greatest Dark Jedi in the world! what? I dont get the jedi reference, but it apparently indicates that he is Chaotix + Show Spoiler + Excellent Jbright. Very good. While I am good bud with fluffy, my role is not related to him. And even if I am related to him, I don't know who is playing his role. Vote: griffindor for now. Lets see... Kagemusha is a really good mafia player, and was the only player who won Generalhandkerchiefs classical mafia until Crazed Rabbit won it it 2007. Its said that as soon as Kage is lynched, it goes bad for the mafia. This is called the Kagemushas curse. I cannot remember him having anything with TinCow. Except TinCow is said to be a good prosecutor and one of the best townies, while Kage is said to be one of the best mafia. finally a post that is more than 2-3 lines, he votes for griffindor for no reason that I can perceive, his comment about the names may seem useful but it has not helped us that much (read, at all), I'm loathe to consider it a real contribution + Show Spoiler + Hey GGQ if you've got no one to vote for, vote for me. ok...why....? + Show Spoiler + Unvote, Vote: aidnai I try my best. continuing with the idiotic policy of voting for whomever votes to you...I *really* hope that thats due to red text + Show Spoiler + Well losing Project Psycho (Kommodus) was a big blow. He probably had a investigation ability as Kommodus had a nickname "Holmes" on the Org. We're already down to 19 so I'll share my thoughts so far. iirc we are using the God Father system, or something very close to it. Which means the host picks one God Father who chooses two grunts. Three men killed so far has all been teamliquid players. As mafias are more likely to kill people who they are comfortable killing, I think the mafias are teamliquid players as well. If I were God Father, I would like to use two men I can definitely count on so I would'nt use any outsiders. So the mafia can't be me or fluffy. If the mafias are in this to win, they would've hired vets. On the Org, controlling the discussion is a double edged sword, as the town may call for your head if you make the wrong call, but on this place you lot seem to go after those who doesn't contribute. I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial. his second long post, but it seems to be mostly fluff, it seems to say the neither he nor fluffy can be scum, seeing as how we saw that fluffy was probably scum this makes me send a *large* FoS on him, especially considering how well he gets along with fluffy all game long, the GF probably randomly chose a TL player to help them pick targets (looking at darmousseh!) also "I'll be looking at people who constantly posts and discusses, but does nothing controversial." hmmm, that does describe his own style of posting too + Show Spoiler + I agree with Believer. I'm willing to bet my money on either gryffindor or ilovejonn being mafia. Possibly both. so after saying that the mafia are probably tl vets he goes after two people who aren't, thats kind of contradictory... + Show Spoiler + Straight from the head that would be Reenk Roink. Two of them combined has a nick name pever reenk. this supports SiNiquity's claim quite a bit + Show Spoiler + /snip (an analysis of ilovejonn's posts by someone else) He could be role playing some spammy player. But even he is, it doesn't clear him one bit. ok...but you said that the mafia team was probably TLer's, not just TLer's but *veteran* tl players, I dont think ilovejohn meets those criterion + Show Spoiler + Defs not. His normally much more spammy. I enjoy his spam posts, but in terms of contribution its the best thus far by fluffy. As for me, I don't usually do OMGUS votes and I talk less interesting, I don't know what to make of it + Show Spoiler + Don't know how to multi quote here so I'll answer them seperately. On the org GF iirc, the host picks the God Father first and gives the fellow a bit of time to choose his grunts. When he does that host sends a role to detectives and the game begins then. As for the question whether everyone had their role before becoming mafia/ detectives. I wouldn't do that if I was the host, but I'm not sure. But seeing how I only have 1 pm, I think we all got a role after God Father and grunts were chosen. In that case, it may be possible to identify the mafia by looking at peoples identity. I'll write more later. Shower first. well, its true we have established that identity is linked to alignment, "But seeing how I only have 1 pm, I think we all got a role after God Father and grunts were chosen." is an interesting line, does that mean that you would have had to receive a second PM to change your alignment? Still this discussion does contribute something to town, but it still feels like a post that contributes without going for anything controversial + Show Spoiler + @deconduo Forgot to mention how the mafia have to do the write up them selves on Org style GF. How do you know this? Also, in our normal GF we have God Father (lynch to win) 2 grunts, 1 detective and 1 surprise (in this case it seems to be day killer) Not sure if their ability is linked to who players are role playing but if they are role playing detectives would've been Askthepizzaguy or Kommodus whom are both dead. Spammy players are fluffy, A Completely Inoffensive Name (ACIN) and Warman. 3 players I can think of on top of my head. Some org regulars whom are still alive are. Beefy (Japanese, friend of pevergreen, lynched when innocent and survives when mafia) Chaotix (As fluffy said I'm playing him. Vengeful) fluffy (spammy) Beskar (Witty British guy) TinCow (Mafia hunter. Prosecutor) GeneralHandkerchief ( God of Org mafia. Creator of all) Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo) Romanic (analyzer) atheotes (always mafia. Always) Secura (Beskars friend) Theres a few more I cannot think of right now, or players who are not regular anymore (like Kommodus) Vote: gryffindor Seems to be the best out of small option I have. this is a sort of useful post, however once again it avoids the topic of who to lynch entirely, some of the data he provided did pan out, but it would have been foolish to lie about information that can be publicly verified + Show Spoiler + Okay, I can vote for GGQ. Unvote, Vote: GGQ meh, bandwagon, everyone jumped on so nothing to look at + Show Spoiler + Spread out the votes. We need to pressure other peoples. curiously this post was edited, while I agree with the sentiment it was faaar too late and feels like just a token gesture + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2011 17:38 aidnai wrote: ^^Pre edit it said something more like "GGQ has too many votes, can some of you vote for me so that I have more people to vote for" Don't edit your posts here, it's illegal in mafia games. I posted something unsuitable. Hence why I edited it out. My apologies. editing posts triggers every single flag in my head, I want to understand what was so important to change? I dont understand the "so that I have more people to vote for" part... + Show Spoiler + Renata is a very nice lady. And I think its a female name I see theres a lot of new developments. atheotes being mafia all the time is true. But for us Org players, that will make it too easy if atheotes is really mafia. trying to protect his scumbuddy from a definite flip, this feels like a tell to me + Show Spoiler + Yea, thank Romanic for that. He must've invested alot of time doing that. Mind you that is not percentage. I'm in the top five of the numbers of games I took part in, but I'm not mafia that frequently. ok...irrelevant dosn't really contribute anything + Show Spoiler + Vote: Gryffindor Regardless of his alignment, he must die. I wouldn't cross off the Org players just from the kill pattern. Mafia can have a Quick topic where all the team members can discuss stuff. But I believe me and Fluffy is innocent because who ever was chosen GF wouldn't choose a outsider Same goes for the style of writing. ok once again defending himself and a confirmed scum, interesting, also when we are close to losing "regardless of his alignment" is really, really fishy + Show Spoiler + I think gryffindor is one of the scums. He gets my vote next phase. well after saying he must die regardless of alignment you'll forgive my skepticism, yes? + Show Spoiler + Believer and Jbright was killed by the same guy? It doesn't say who killed Jbright. deconduo seems to be killed by the 3rd party. So we have either 3 mafia and a SK or GF and SK left. Anyhow, Vote: gryffindor yay for posting the obvious and then going after his target again, does he know something about gryffindor we don't? + Show Spoiler + @ Chaoser If you think i'm the GF why don't you vote for me? Afraid of revenge of Chaotix are you Why are you so afraid? here let me say what chaoser accidentally let slip, something in his PM didn't let him vote for you, how interesting that the guy with the FoS on you *happens* to die overnight, I'm disappointed that I didn't notice this earlier. + Show Spoiler + Your Crazed Rabbit yes? Repeat after me. Capitalize every word and don't change anything. I Insanious (Crazed Rabbit) is not Mafia or Serial Killer. I am on the towns side. If you have a red text it may be the "truth" nice try, but this still isn't a contribution, although I applaud the originality of the idea + Show Spoiler + Insanious is innocent. If his not, he must live with the shame of being a terrible and cruel traitorous liar. Chaoser is a better choice. this could be me, but I would much rather ensure the SK dies than go after someone who, oh, look, turned out to be town, I bet that Insanious would have died that night, or would have been out prime lynch target today + Show Spoiler + in typical mafia SK is just Serial Killer on org. They can only kill and they are on their own. ok + Show Spoiler + Chaoser and gryffindor. ok + Show Spoiler + If its me and gryffindor, why have I been voting for him for the last few phases? I dont think anyone said that, and your obsession with gryffindor hints at red text or hidden information, which if you were town you should be able to reveal + Show Spoiler + Vote: gryffindor gryffindor has lived for too long. I believe he is the last surviving baddy and he must be lynched. see above spoiler Conclusion: I am almost sure Beefy is scum, I still have to analyze the other players left though | ||
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Its also possible that there was a medic/vet save, however no one has claimed it, so unless beefy does we won't be able to decide either way. I think chaoser died because of his suspicion of beefy, but I could be wrong. Either way, I know I am town, and I think SiNiquity's claim holds water, so its between gryffindor and Beefy, of the two I think Beefy feels scummier, but I have not yet gone over gryffindor's posts | ||
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On February 22 2011 09:05 SiNiquity wrote:
So GF is certainly free to write w/e, and I guess SK isn't (seems silly to leave a trail of clues pointing at your kills). So GF copies SK to kill Chaoser to trick us into thinking SK's the one that's alive. That's the only possibility that fits with why's cipher / death. Hmm. Either way I don't think it matter if he is a GF or a SK (although I still think its a GF), we still have to lynch him today. Anyone care to do an analysis of gryffindor or SiNiquity? I have work I should be doing | ||
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On February 22 2011 11:29 SiNiquity wrote: Except this one here. I can't seem to find where GGQ voted for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653¤tpage=34#666 He didn't, but its possible that he can't vote for players who haven't voted for him and have less than x # of votes, I would like gryffindor to claim as he is the only person we lack a claim for. | ||
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##Vote: Beefy187 I'll be up in a few hours exclusively for this game, so please make it worth my while to get up | ||
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On February 22 2011 19:33 chaoser wrote: He's basically saying, Beefy is mafia, but i'm voting sin anyway, giving mafia chance to tie. This could go to no lynch (which it will if beefy is actually mafia) and even though I think beefy is scum, i'm not going to vote him, Sin, please do. could be red text related I guess.... | ||
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On February 22 2011 19:57 chaoser wrote: at the same time though, if he thinks beefy is not town, why would he allow for a tie? him not claiming even though we ask him multiple times to name claim is realllyyy sketch. at this point im sticking with my choice, last minute panicking is what cost us the game in minimafia VII so im going to hold to my choice for now | ||
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Well played, however when we solved why's riddle I decided you had to die, although to be honest I thought you were the SK not a mafia member Also my role PM lied? Sorry for making you out to be mafia then darmousseh, I was convince my PM wouldn't lie also my PM + Show Spoiler + ou are Beskar You post a fair bit, analyse well and are generally well liked. From Britain, you tend to dislike ‘Engrish’ and bastardisations of your language. You have an intense rivalry with ‘atheotes’ who often gets randomly selected as mafia. In fact, its almost a rule that ‘atheotes is always mafia’ You are [I]Town[I] Major victory condition: Due to a long standing rivalry with atheotes, you must outlive the player with the role of ‘atheotes’ Minor Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated. You are able, once each night phase, to investigate a single person. You will receive their character name as a result. | ||
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EDIT: Also I liked my red text, its a shame darm got modkilled as we could have played an enjoyable game of can and mouse. Also I believe this game would have benefited alot from 48 hour days. | ||
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On February 23 2011 01:39 deconduo wrote: I didn't kill why, gryffindor did. The whole code was just to fuck with people Dosn't matter, it was fun to crack, it just so happened that he tagged a guilty player with it. (I had full faith in why's truthfulness too  ) | ||
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It would have been deliciously ironic if I were mafia and darmousseh were town. | ||
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I hadn't heard of him until you mentioned him, so I went and searched for him (by the way for anyone who wants to look for his posts its Showtime! with an !, it took a quick look at the ban thread to figure that out [which also led me to find the smurf game by the way, that seemed kind of interesting]) I think it would be a hilarious role to have, I'm going to have to go back and find more games with him in them, also to satisfy my curiosity, what ever happened to L? I saw him in alot of the older games, and he seemed to be kind of like Ace's counterpart, but I haven't seen him around | ||
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