EPTTL Mafia XXXVI - Page 5
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zerroth we got 1 or 2 replacements so lynching lurkers right off the bat isnt necessary This is like a foreshadow that he will be lurking in the game. He is a new player so he don't know who are the more experienced players. Since he posted this soon after the game started, it is impossible for his mafia buddies to post this (assuming he is mafia). He also understand that replacements are used to replace modkilled players, he must be reading the thread carefully. On January 24 2011 13:46 zerroth wrote: how can you consider who is very likely town when you are asking for only 3-4 volunteers. What if 6 volunteers show up and all of em are scum? Don't really understand the game at all (6 mafia volunteers). No decent player will say stuff like this. Yeah, those are the only analysable posts I can find. Also noted that his shares very similar profile pic as me. d3_crescentia Look at these post game comment from XXXV first: On January 19 2011 14:44 d3_crescentia wrote: So I spent much of this game lurking and not sticking my head above the water so the townies could go around in circles and lynch themselves. I'm not sure if this was the best way to play after losing 2 mafia, but since none of us mafia had any substantial town presence after Day 2 I didn't want to take unnecessary risks and draw too much attention. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that if I had been town I would've called myself out for that kind of scummy play, so I'm really unsure as to how to deal with this in future games. What's the best approach in these situations? On January 19 2011 15:01 Ace wrote: Be a town presence early. But hey your best bet is to usually do whatever most of the town is doing. If majority want to lurk, then lurk. It's hard for the town to pick mafia out of inactive players. Let them lynch their active players and you NK the rest. Walla! Come up to LYLO and no one has a damn clue who's really Scum, and the only townies left are the ones who have 0 credibility so no one listens to them anyway. And now you see why Town, when they have them, really need their Vigilantes/Night KP roles to kill worthless players if they aren't certain of who Scum is. I think if the Town isn't going to get rid of their inactive players then you should let some of your Scum team lurk too. Remember you don't always have to stick your neck out and look for Scum - you already know who they are. Let the Town kill themselves if they want to play poorly. On January 21 2011 08:03 Ver wrote: Ace is right. You did absolutely fine. Remember your goal in the game is to win, not to look good for the spectators lol. It doesn't matter who catches what if they aren't in the game. As long as you don't get lynched and win in the end that minimalist approach is absolutely great. In a town like this you really don't need to do much else to win. 1/10 or whatever with their kp really says you guys were doing the right things. For example, when I look at the games I was mafia, I could catch myself very very quickly as it was really obvious. But that's irrelevant. Cause I didn't get lynched and we won. Now granted I spend so little time protecting myself since I'm putting it into analyzing, planning, and organizing the mafia team. Managing your time is an important mafia skill as well unless you are Pyrrhuloxia or Bill Murray. But the same principle still applies even if you are using that time to...not play mafia. Mafia doesn't need people overlapping in the same roles too much either. Why was already putting a good performance while staying away from any prying eyes. He could influence town policy enough if needed. All the rest of you had to do was stay back and let the town focus on the guiltier people. I am very certain that he read those comments since he just asked them before receiving comments from two big names. Both encouraged that he should continue his mafia play of staying out of trouble. On January 25 2011 09:11 d3_crescentia wrote: I'd vote for RoL if he didn't seem so lazy. Some good insight on the mayor role. I don't have a strong opinion of Kavdragon just yet, as his playstyle generally looks town. For the most part we need to ignore clues and focus on the people themselves. @darmousseh all those situations lead into a bunch of WIFOM. I'll be watching you for better posts. Only analysable post I found. If he is town, he is screwing town by not contributing. If he is mafia, then it falls in line with work he was encouraged to do as mafia. Also noted that he replaced Dr.H and post his "time to read the thread at page 25." That is a lot of reading for newer players. DarthTheinAn, an experience playerin XXXV, can't endure reading 42 pages and only stopped lurkering after being called out. Eti307 Total lurker. 2 failed promise-to-contribute posts here: LINK | ||
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On January 29 2011 17:48 Kavdragon wrote: Grr. I shouldn't try to respond when I'm tired, but here I go anyways, with part three of the response: I very much disagree with having vigs hit people who the town all thinks are scum. That makes it possible for the mafia to influence the decision. I say shoot lurkers with vig because it get rid of the mafia shield that is town bureaucracy. This pressures scum much more than a double lynch. Also, the town can't really discuss which lurker should be shot, cause by definision, there's very little to analyse. Lurkers are bad news for town discussion, so leave them to the vigs to take care of. Like I said, town can catch scum slips, but not if people aren't talking. If we can't catch a slip from the lurkers, chances are they won't get lynched. I understand it kind of hard for town to come up with a good target without influence from mafia. But isn't it just like the lynch? I also agree vig should not claim before shooting because it means nothing. A mafia could as well claim before shooting but it will lure dt toward his way. Alternative suggestion is if a vig really want to claim, he should claim much before the night ends so dts have a chance to check that shooter. This will greatly discourage mafia to claim vig. Futhermore, if the vig shoot and we find good clues directing to you, you better have good reason why you shoot. Don't say stuff like: I RNG from that "hit list." | ||
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On January 30 2011 03:45 Kavdragon wrote: Can someone explain to me why having the Vig claim before, or after is useful? Why does he need to claim at all? I also agree vig should not claim before shooting because it means nothing. A mafia could as well claim before shooting but it will lure dt toward his way. Alternative suggestion is if a vig really want to claim, he should claim much before the night ends so dts have a chance to check that shooter. This will greatly discourage mafia to claim vig. I didn't say I agree vig should claim before shooting. I just said if vig wants to claim before shooting, he should claim ahead of time and should not claim to be shooting in the last hour. | ||
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On January 30 2011 07:14 Kavdragon wrote: What good does it do the town to have a vig claim after shooting? Sure a DT can check him, but we won't know the result unless he claims too, and there's no way to check him, and on and on. Not to mention that it's possible that we've lost the DT already. You are misunderstanding me. What I said are: -I agree vig shouldn't claim before or after shooting. -If vig really wish to claim because of some reason he has, he should not wait until the last minute before day to claim. | ||
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We had a new two new kinds of meat tonight. The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite good. The second meat was really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth And then we realized that this wasn't any ordinary meat. We never found the chef afterwards. Nor did we find d3_crescentia. Pandain/deconduo: LINK Have two dogs, named Elle and Abby. Elle's the good dog. Abby's the evil dog. But I love them both. Live In Delaware, the state that doesn't exist. Interruption/Substitution: We had a new two new kinds of DOG tonight. The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite GOOD. The second DOG was really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth And then we realized that this wasn't any ordinary meat.(BAD DOG/EVIL DOG) We never found (DOESN'T EXIST) the chef afterwards. Nor did we find d3_crescentia. | ||
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On January 30 2011 11:24 Coagulation wrote: the only clue i could find http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Jackal58 Steeler picture in profile I think Coag got the best clue. -Steel is a recurring word in every post. So it is VERY likely that it is a clue. -Look at Jackals' profile. SCV icon. Quote: Life can only kill you once. Description: Beer is good for you. And a profile pic of STEELer. If you are the mod and writing clue for jackal, you don't got a lot of base your clues on. Counter argument for this is did the mod make the clues that apparent? | ||
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On January 30 2011 13:43 Eti307 wrote: I gotta say the Beneather's case looks pretty convincing. He's the one we can link the most clues to so far Based on clue alone: No way Beneather's Master CHEF is more convincing than Jackal's STEELer. Black shape. Only a hand-length away | ||
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Nemesis pointed out that in Mini Mafia IV, jackal was town and his contribution is much higher. He actually did do many long posts in that game. Everyone should take a quick look at post style differ in these two games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Jackal58&gb=date | ||
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I only explanation about mafia targeting D3 are -Not because they think D3 is blue. The only thing that supports D3 being a blue is that he lurks, there are many other targets to choose from, why him. -They are trying to frame people who say D3 is mafia by proving that D3 is not mafia (Kav's census). -Also it's very stupid for mafia to kill someone who is on top of both town's lynch list and vig's "hit list." | ||
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I don't think STEELer or the quarterback related clues are what we should be focusing on. | ||
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We know Mini Mafia V starts after XXXVI. Lets say, Jackal IS mafia. Do you think LSB will be "HERP DERP. Lets make him mafia in my game as well." I do not think so. | ||
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On January 31 2011 12:34 kitaman27 wrote: Scum teams are RNG o.O Still 24 hours remaining. Any suggestions for alternate candidates? This post from LSB here say it is not RNGed. LINK | ||
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Retrace Lyrics by Anberlin Oh, how I've tried to get you out of my head And I lied, broken words I said Never thought I'd walk on this street again Standing where it all began Tried to forget when I left this town Well it takes me right back when I come back around Retrace the steps we took on that long summer night I'm back there by your side Retrace the steps we took when we met worlds away Counting backwards while the stars are falling Oh, now I find every subtle thing screams your name It reminds me of places and times we shared Couldn't live locked in these memories Now I'm chained to my thoughts again And I tried to forget when I left this town But I'll take you right back if you come back around Retrace the steps we took on that long summer night I'm back there by your side Retrace the steps we took when we met worlds away Counting backwards while the stars are falling I need some shelter, I need some safety Photographs they, haunt me lately Chasing shadows as the evening takes me I'm still searching, but the picture's fading Retrace the steps we took on that long summer night I'm back there by your side Retrace the steps we took when we met worlds away Counting backwards, still counting backwards And no where else has ever felt like home And I can't fall asleep when I'm lying here alone I replay your voice, it's like you're here You move the earth, but now the sky is falling Retrace the steps we took on that long summer night In my mind, I'm back by your side Retrace the steps we took when we met worlds away Counting backwards while the stars are falling ----------------------- Okkervil River - For Real Some nights I thirst for real blood For real knives For real cries And then the flash of steel from real guns In real life Really fills my mind And I really miss what really did exist When I held your throat so tight And I miss the bus as it swerved from us Almost came crashing to its side Sometimes the blood from real cuts Feels real nice When it's really mine And if you want it to be real Come over for one night And we can really, really climb And those blue bridge lights might really burn most bright As we watch that dark lake rise And if you really want to see what really matters most to me Just take a real short drive It's just a drive into the dark stretch Long stretch of night Will really stretch this shaking mind And this room, unlit, unheated And the ceiling striped And the dark black blinds I want to know this time if you're really finally mine I need to know that you're not lying so I want to see you tried And I don't want to hear you say it shouldn't really be this way 'Cause I like this way just fine 'Cause there's nothing quite like the blinding light That curtains cast aside And no attempt is made to explain away The things that really, really, really, really, really are behind You can't hide You can't hide You can't hide You can't hide You can't hide You can't hide | ||
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First half: LINK Dude in the interview: Armin Meiwes, the German cannibal serving a life sentence for killing and eating a man who begged to be devoured, has described how the meat tasted of pork and how he prepared an elaborate meal of human steak in a green pepper sauce with croquettes and Brussels sprouts. If you click the link of read the article, many Keywords in day posts can be found. SO READ IT. Second half: LINK I tried google the italicized words: really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth TOP 3 search are about dog meat and what it taste like. So for node to get this quote, he must have googled something relating to dog meat. Now whose profile relates to dog??? On January 30 2011 12:51 LunarDestiny wrote: Here is my finding... Very vague reasoning though. Pandain/deconduo: LINK Interruption/Substitution: We had a new two new kinds of DOG tonight. The flesh tastes like pork, a little bit more bitter, stronger. It tastes quite GOOD. The second DOG was really fatty and greasy, so the meat kind of breaks up in your mouth And then we realized that this wasn't any ordinary meat.(BAD DOG/EVIL DOG) We never found (DOESN'T EXIST) the chef afterwards. Nor did we find d3_crescentia. | ||
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Barundar/Nfi He looked up and saw a masked man with a blood-spattered black apron tied around his waist. The man masterfully handled his instruments, hands moving at a blur, flashes of steel rising and falling, leaving perfectly sized morsels behind. He lifted a finger to his mouth and sucked. "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth." Minor clues: Masked Man and "I Love Trance" which is his profile pic relates to music. Definitely not enough to say he is mafia. But needed to be pointed out. | ||
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There is no way for node to find that quote without googling "dog meat." Similar goes with "human meat/cannibalism" clue. It is possible to find that quote doing something else but googling "human meat" and that an article of Armin Meiwes, the German cannibal is right below the wiki page. The link of the actual interview can be found by clicking the hyperlink "an interview from his prison cell." I believe that Node/LSB googled "Human meat" and "Dog meat" when writing the day post. So Human Meat/Cannibalism and Dog Meat are clues leading us to the killers. | ||
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On February 01 2011 04:16 deconduo wrote: What does Jackal have to do with anything I've been saying? I don't want to kill the mayor. I suspect him somewhat but not enough to want him dead for nothing. However if he dies during the night that gives us TWO confirmed scum. I'd be happy even going one for one, two for one is amazing. Unless a/the vig has someone better to shoot, then go for it. Worst case scenario is that the mayor doesn't die. Out of curiosity: Do scum bodyguards protect scum mayor? I am very certain that dog meat is a clue pointing to a killer. I recall only you and Beneather have dog related profile. I am super reluctant to lynch a bodyguard. Also, scum bodyguard protects scum mayor. | ||
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