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On January 20 2011 13:47 LSB wrote: All right, lets get this started Lesson number Zero, read the Newbie guide www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180405 Lesson number one, learn from your mistakes Most of you come from XXXVI. Are you going to do the same thing you did then? NO! Improving at mafia is like starcraft, you analyize what you did wrong and fix it. Things town did wrong 1. Lynch people for being to smart. Shouting down Insasious, killing rol, killing Seraph. Comeon town. If someone is smart, listen to them. Don't stick your fingers in your ears and go "blahblahblahblah" 2. Relying too much on DTs (I'll get to this later) and town circles. They don't work, unless the game is broken. This game isn't broken 3. Not doing your own analysis, and letting the mafia do it for you. Actually read the thread guys, and do your own thinking DTs DTs are not a replacement for analysis. They only suppliment analysis. DTs, please claim only if 1. You have found red 2. It is close to lylo and one of your greens (plural, not singular) is about to be lynched 3. It is lylo. Town, don't rely on DTs. Mafia is an easy game. As long as the town isn't stupid it wins. I learned a lot from that game. Biggest mistake town made was lynching actives. Lurkers beware. | ||
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On January 20 2011 20:15 Barundar wrote: We didn't actually lynch that many active in that game - lsb being the exception, but it cost them the godfather. Rol getting vigi'd was terrible though... What does everyone think of the plan proposed by gmarshal? No blue talk and lynching of inactives untill something better comes up? Personally i feel we are neglecting an important subject that can make people open their mouth this way. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Are you agreeing with the lynching of lurkers or do you see another option? Personally I think if the people that wish to lurk understand that their inactivity is a death sentence they will post. Their posts may be all fluff and no stuff but they will post. I'm on board with gmarshal. You don't have to beat me over the head twice to get my attention. XXXV was enough. If you're blue good for you. If you feel compelled to make a claim good for you. If you feel compelled to make a false claim you will be lynched as soon as we find out about it. | ||
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On January 20 2011 22:08 Nemesis wrote: @Jackal I wouldn't say that lynching actives is a big mistake. I wasn't paying attention to what happened in XXXVI, but we should lynch scum, and mafia is not always inactive. And I guess back to the usual first day topic. Lynching inactives. Since lynching a scum is very hard in the very first day. Lynching inactives would be a very good start as it would prevent mafia from lurking. I'm going to wait a bit for people to talk since the game has just started. I would argue that lynching the most active players on day 1 is a mistake. Unless of course active player A states "I am scum" which probably isn't going to happen. | ||
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On January 20 2011 23:18 chaoser wrote: I'd actually want less fluff and have players post less but bigger posts cause mafia can easily blend into a whole group of people writing fluff and then we're fucked. If everyone is writing big posts then mafia is hard pressed to write big posts too and so if they write small posts they stick out like a sore thumb. If they write long posts there's more a change they'll mess up and give themselves away. Either way they react, we win. Right now the main thing we're looking for is for everyone to "check in" with a post. When does day end lol? Mad scared lol That's kinda what I was getting at. It is in Mafias best interest to say nothing. To remain non committal when they do say something. If lynching inactives forces them to post then it is actually easier for town to look at whose lips are moving but not saying anything. | ||
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On January 21 2011 01:30 Barundar wrote: Is there another option than pressuring and eventually lynching them? Things to look out for regarding lurkers is people like zeks in pyp3, who didn’t post much, but always posted game related stuff, ie. he was following the thread without contributing. I agree. That's what I meant by fluff. Day 1 will be harder to tell who's lurking but by day two it should begin to be apparent. | ||
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On January 21 2011 04:27 LSB wrote: Abstaining is bad because it brings us closer to lylo (Assuming that the doctors don't make their protects) Assuming we have docs. Or DTs or anything. I'm assuming we are all green with a sprinkling of red. Any blues that can confirm their roles as the game goes along is a bonus. But I'm going on the premise we have none. Looking for blue help in XXXV killed us. I won't make that particular mistake again. | ||
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On January 21 2011 02:53 Hesmyrr wrote: Since everyone seems to be piping up, I shall take on the role of Devil's Advocate. Note that the current situation is 8-3. Assuming nothing happens with town keep failing lynches: 8-3 6-3 4-3 That is 2 ML available to eliminate 3 mafia. If vig misfires the available mislynch decreases to 1. Holy jeez, I'd love to have been stuck with F11 setup with these odds. Random bantering aside I am questioning that whether it is wise to religiously throw away one of these valuable lynch opportunity in banner of activity. Of course inactivity is hugely anti-town (thus a scumtell) but it should not be given greater weight than ordinary accusation even in day 1. At least the latter would help draw towns discussion more toward post of actual players. I believe scum KP is 1/night if I am reading the OP correctly. Am I right or did I miss something? | ||
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On January 21 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote: I disagree with this post. While lynching inactives is suboptimal as a strategy when compared to lynching mafia, I wouldn't say it's a bad strat. There have been games where inactivity lost town the game. And I'm not talking about people being active and then becoming inactive. I'm talking about inactives staying inactive. Town doesn't want to waste lynches on them past day one and then you get like 3-4 inactives just sitting around at the end of the game making it almost impossible to weed out the last 2-3 mafia that are hiding within their ranks. Also, you're talking about semantics. Whether we mean inactive or lurker, inactive means they ain't posting and so from the point of view of the town, it's the same thing, a bad thing. Its like our policy to lynch millers. Doesn't matter if they are real mafia or not, if someone comes up as red, its better to lynch them than not to. Saying we're going to lynch inactive might not do anything but voting and pressuring them will get them to post so your point on that is wrong too. If they are truly "inactive", as in they are away from the comp, they won't come defend themselves and we can get a sense of whether they are "inactive" or a "lurker" as you put it. I'm actually weary of people who go "omg he wants to lynch inactive, he's mafia!" Everyone knows what people mean when they say lets lynch inactive day one, it's just a way to generate discussion. Most games start with people saying lynch inactive. And most of the time they're not mafia. Why did you jump to quickly to say he's mafia? We got a whole day left and not everyone has said anything yet. We will have a better idea of who is truly inactive by tomorrow afternoon. That is when I will cast my vote. I have no desire to be in another game where the only person I talk to for the last 3 days is myself. | ||
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On January 21 2011 07:16 Pandain wrote: Did you just say this? :p Again, we want to pressure people to POST, not lynch the inactives. There is a HUGE difference between those two. We want to pressure the inactives and lynch the lurkers, not lynch the inactives themselves. Remember, mafia aren't inactive, they're lurking. Inactives are those who are bored, who don't care about the game, who don't have time. Lurkers are the ones who are watching yet don't contribute. Differentiating between those will make or break it for the town. We can't just lynch all the inactives and hope for the best. As of right now, I want Shockkey to post, but am giving him time. Meanwhile there is someone who might be scum and slipped up. There's no point not pressuring the person at the very least. Don't include me in your "we". If they aren't posting I want to kill them. There is no difference between "lurking" and "inactive". They are one and the same. The 5 games I've read through and the one we just finished all had "inactive lurkers" at the end that were scum. Why wait? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On December 28 2010 04:49 Pandain wrote: Okay seems like roughly 8 people have voted for me. I find that slightly disturbing and random but okay, I will defend myself? I wasn't even sure what to defend myself about but lets go forward. But first, I'd like to congragulate everyone and helping keep this thread so far much better than others, with long posts and everything. ![[image loading]](http://images.paraorkut.com/img/pics/glitters/y/yay_we_did_it-6035.gif) Fadoodle yeah! But going forward, I still see no reason to vote me. So far I have been doing what I do every game, that is, getting town in a postive way forward with content oriented posts. What I'm doing actually isn't so much getting more analysis(although it is), its encouraging an atmosphere of contribution and thought. I voted Mr. Wiggles because he hadn't really been contributing, he had just been spamming. But lately he has actively been contributing with long well thought out posts. Mission accomplished. I voted Jackal for the same reason, but actually am inclined now to vote for someone else with his excuse, but will actively be pressuring him in PM land to contribute more so. Jackal, that's why your being voted. Contribute more and I'll lay off you. But as I was reading, Lunar destiny was right. What if they're just afk? Then we could just spend a whole day voting osmeone but they won't even read the thread to be able to respond! Which is partly why I'm unvoting jackal as of now. I will be looking for someone else to vote. You guys are voting me. I urge you to help me in getting this town on the right track. Too many times town ends up in day 2 with nothing more than like 10 one line posts over the course of day 1, because there was just too much spam/not real discussion. So far I've been pleased with how this has been going so far. But just want to now start talking about what's currently been happening. 1.I do not think we should vote LSB. Plainly, he has been contributing alot so far, more than most of the people already. Plainly, if he is mafia, then we'll most likely catch him anyway. We should not be lynching actives, even if we have a slight suspicion that he's mafia. Obviously if we have a good inkling I suppose we should go for it(as in team melee mafia 2 incog fingered lsb day 1) but right now there's really nothing on LSB, and I wouldn't want to lynch an expierenced player. Plus there are some problems with your analysis, but I'll just name a few. 1. If you are hit, then u should claim. LSB was right. Becuase mafia can't tell if ur vet or just protected or what. 2.You're mistaking jokes for real content. (aka when lsb said coag got banned so dr. h could join) 3.The only real suspicious thing about him is his somewhat spammy nature. The most important of which being number 3, but that is certainly not a reason to lynch him when he's already contributed alot. As for the DT checks, that's more appropiate for talk during the night(less time for mafia to manipualte) but we can talk about it now. Personally I'm leaning towards checking people who "contribute without contributing." Don't just check the inactives, they're most likely bored townies. Don't just check big name players, most likely they're going to be framed/picked godfather. We should pick those who seem to be pro town, but fail to actually contribute. Obviously this can change. If you really have a good read on someone, check them But that's just some advice. Now he's all about getting them involved. I'm not here to rehability and reintegrate. That's a different game. Is Pandain trying to make his mafia lurker nest nice and cozy? FoS Pandain. | ||
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Shockeyy - Yes he may be at work. Yes he may be unable to post. Or he may be something else. In either case if he continues at his present rate of participation he is a detriment to us. BloodyC0bbler - Hello!!!! You're the worst of the bunch so far. GGQ - Your lips are moving but you're not really saying much. I'm heading off to work. I'll catch up with you guys in a couple of hours. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler- Help out an ignorant noob. What is this "Zodiac" you refer too? ShoCkeyy- I just want to say I understand commitment and prior responsibilities. Will you be active on the weekend? I am undecided on my vote atm. Am leaning towards Pandain but nothing is set in stone. | ||
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I gotta go get some sleep. See you guys in the morning. | ||
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On January 23 2011 03:52 Pandain wrote: While Hesmyrr is a good choice for medic protection, having only one possibility for medics to protect is a very bad idea. Medic, you should RNG between Hesmyrr and another person you think is blue/going to get hit. As for the DT check list, here's my list: Barundar-I agree, that vote switch did catch my attention. Something about him just isn't right. However, he has been performing analysis, but his playstyle has been off(for example, doesn't post as much.) LSB Has been playing suspiciously Jackal This guy really catches my eyes. Either he is just showing how he's new, or he's mafia. It's somewhat consistent with the previous game so that helps him a little, but as of now i think he's a good check. Check away. | ||
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On January 23 2011 06:16 Barundar wrote: Regarding my vote switch, lack of activity around the day 2 key for a late switch onto annul in mafia xxxv. The sudden activity when LSB was actually pressured makes me regret it didn’t get through. We spend a whole day discussing inactives, without getting any better candidates than Shockeyy. In my opinion we needed to make something happen, and hope for a mafia reaction. I picked LSB over Gmarshal beceause of his reasons for voting Shockeyy:+ Show Spoiler + On January 22 2011 03:55 LSB wrote: I'm going to support the Shockkey lynch because 1) Indirect FoS on Pandain. Pandain has detracted from his initial posts on activity back in XXXV, one possible explanation could be that Pandain is on a scum team with an inactive, shockeyy. […] On January 22 2011 05:38 LSB wrote: I'm going to say I don't like Pandain's butterfly flirting around the issue. He isn't actually committing to any position, besides lets not lynch shockeyy. How about we lynch shockeyy and see what Pandain thinks???? :D! It struck me as suspicious that he would vote Shockeyy, while suspecting Pandain. Firstly, the connection was too flimsy to be of real value, Shockeyy had simply used some of Pandain’s arguments, while Pandain had stated his opinion on Shockeyy. Secondly a mislynch could easily be explained as just a way of testing Pandain. Add to this that my initial analysis of Pandain is town. His playstyle resembles that from my last game with him, plenty of finger pointing and last minute vote switches, while trying to lead the town. All that’s missing is a fake claim. While it’s a moot point, I don’t see a reason for a mafia to draw attention to himself like that. Lastly I have had to /out of mafia xxxvi due to time constraints, but I'm doing my best to be active in this. I concur with your analysis of Pandain. His play is almost identical to XXXV. An almost paranoid rush to change the vote in the last few minutes. I don't understand it but it is the same behavior. If I were on at the end of day yesterday I would have switched my vote to force a tie just to see if his head exploded. | ||
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On January 23 2011 11:11 LSB wrote: Firstly, that behavior is decidedly anti town. Rushing off into a lynch that isn't thought out is a bad way to play and a great way to kill a lot of greens Secondly, it isn't unique to his town behavior. He does this every game, regardless of being mafia or town. The thing is, he's not to careful as mafia, and spends time defending scumbuddies. It was a joke. I'm slowly getting a feel for the way various people approach this game. Pandains approach is akin to chicken little. | ||
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On January 22 2011 12:54 Pandain wrote: 1.Bad logic, which wouldn't normally be bad but he's not new at all 2.Contradictory statements Not a great amount, but considering day 1 I think it's decent amount to lynch LSB. Yet you switched. On January 22 2011 12:58 Pandain wrote: make a choice fast. we can't have a tie Why couldn't we have a tie? At the point you posted this it was painfully obvious we were going to have a modkill. I'm just gonna keep sitting on you man. We have a 37% chance of lynching a red today. Unless we lynch you. Then it goes up to 100%. | ||
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On January 23 2011 23:50 GGQ wrote: What is this? Is this just bluster? Over-confidence for humour's sake? Or do you really think that your post justify's calling Pandain 100% confirmed scum? All of the above. | ||
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I was. His last minute rush to break a tie between in order to lynch Shockkey or LSB makes no sense with an obvious mod kill on the way. All 3 are town. The odds of that are reaching the point of being ridiculously improbable. I think he has to be aware of who the reds are and his rush to get a 2 for 1 deal is extremely scummy looking. | ||
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On January 24 2011 00:43 GGQ wrote:Why would you not vote for someone that you consider to be 100% scum? I'm not sure I understand your question. | ||
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On January 24 2011 01:32 chaoser wrote: Let's all just step back for a moment. Jackal, I think you're misunderstand the events of the day. Pandain had initially voted Shockey and then switched to LSB when it seemed like "no one was defending shockey on day 1". Pandain thought he was "green" and so switched. Now, if Pandain was actually mafia, do you think he would switch? We now know that both LSB and Shockey are townies. It doesn't make sense for mafia to switch between the two, especially so late in the day. Mafia is usually content on sticking to one vote and sitting on it. If Pandain was actually mafia, he could have avoided the tie situation all together by just sitting on his vote of shockey. This makes me less suspicious of Pandain now than before. So the thing that make me think Pandain isn't [r]red[/r]: 1) Both Shockey and LSB were green, why would mafia switch from one to the other? It makes no sense since a dead townie is still a dead townie. At first I thought like you too, but stepping back, I noticed it was a weird thing that happened last night. What do others think? Might be wrong lol. He would switch in order to guarantee a lynch. You're right of course a dead townie is a dead townie but his last minute change ensured that there would be a dead townie. | ||
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On January 24 2011 01:56 chaoser wrote: There was already a guaranteed lynch though. At that point I think it was like 4 on Shockey and 1 of LSB. It was only because of Pandain's switch that caused the "tie". Which is why I'm so confused. GGQ's vote on LSB created the tie. | ||
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On January 24 2011 16:10 GGQ wrote: ##vote Jackal58 Justify yourself, please. Sure ##Vote: Pandain | ||
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On January 25 2011 00:50 Barundar wrote: Posting from airport, should be home in time for tonight. Quick thoughts: - Since it's quite possibly lylo, dt should claim if he has found red. Another night of check won't help us if we have already lost. Also please stop us if we are about to lynch someone you have found town. Personally i doubt we have any dt's, but hey... - It appears Gmarshal claimed to have gotten roleblocked, so we should probably not look at lynching him tonight. We have atleast 2 other reds to look into. Who do ya have in mind as the 3rd one? In my mind it's Pandain #1. Nobody is that unlucky. | ||
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On January 25 2011 00:50 Barundar wrote: Posting from airport, should be home in time for tonight. Quick thoughts: - Since it's quite possibly lylo, dt should claim if he has found red. Another night of check won't help us if we have already lost. Also please stop us if we are about to lynch someone you have found town. Personally i doubt we have any dt's, but hey... - It appears Gmarshal claimed to have gotten roleblocked, so we should probably not look at lynching him tonight. We have atleast 2 other reds to look into. I missed this first time through. Not in your post but in Gmarshal's. If he does have a role we can probably assume we'll never benefit from it. I feel we're back to XXXV. No blues. | ||
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On January 25 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote: I was serious on LSB too >.>. Sorry if I can't remember all of the 5 people I pressured. And how could I have broken the tie with a vote on nemesis? If I switched to nemesis, Shockkey still would've gotten lynched. As for my playstyle, I heavily disagree. I feel I have done well this game so far, albeit I admit whether Nemesis is mafia will determine just how well I've gone. I've been THE most active player this game, generated the most information(and how is it bad for town, getting people to talk is ALWAYS good). Great, now if even one townie voted for me, we lose. Jackal, if you're really serious about wanting me lynched, and not just mafia, then please respond to my coments to you. You still have really nothing that you yourself are lynching me for besides "I'm unlucky"(got one thing wrong? wtf?). And still, I'm the only person actually trying to scum hunt. I'm the only person pressuring people. How am I mafia? You didn't miss one. You missed two. Shockevvy = green LSB = Green and then BC mod killed = green. You were voting for all 3 at various times. Pushing hard for LSB and then voting Shockevvy when you were afraid of a tie. It's just too convenient. | ||
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On January 25 2011 07:21 Pandain wrote: hai jackal u just posted in the other mafia game -.- sup? I'm at work. My posting opportunities are hit or miss. I'll be home in about an hour and a half. Will be able to put more time into it. | ||
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On January 25 2011 07:50 Pandain wrote: Let's see: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184673¤tpage=9#162-say shockkey is town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184673¤tpage=9#174 I THINK lsb is mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184673¤tpage=8#145 That is the only post in which I voted shockkey, and note how I said I don't think he's mafia, but didn't have anyone else to vote for. Later on I thought LSB was our best bet, so I tried for him. As for BC, originally I thought he was scummy(and keep in mind when I say that I mean keeping in mind that its day1), but then when he was like "you guys have to learN" instead of the typical"I'm busy", that made me think he's town. Are you really voting me because I was wrong on day1? Because I got ONE person wrong on day 1? No you're scummy for encouraging a tie breaker when it was painfully obvious that BC was going to be mod killed. On January 22 2011 12:58 Pandain wrote: make a choice fast. we can't have a tie Why couldn't we? There are only 11 of us at the start. Why not have a tie? Why not let BC be mod killed and no lynch. If BC was red we win. If BC was green we lose 1. But you wanted 2. A freebie. There is no other reason for pushing a lynch 5 minutes before a mod kill was going to happen. Unless of course you're scum. If you were town your reasons make no sense what so ever and just by dumb luck we should have hit a red. On January 22 2011 12:59 Pandain wrote: Fadoodle ##Unvote LSB ##Vote Shockkey And this one. Sure just in case BC does show up in the next five minutes you're making sure there is no possibility of a tie. You are mafia. 100% through and through. | ||
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On January 25 2011 08:21 Pandain wrote: 1. Jackal58-What he says doesn't make alot of sense. He could just be really confused, but for instance saying I thought Shockkey was town. So either he is just not understanding everything, or is mafia. I didn't say it. You said it. On January 22 2011 02:08 Pandain wrote: Finally, I've decided that I don't think Shockkey is scum. He's playing his norm, in fact, even has contributed more with a semi analysis of Nemesis. I think Hesmyrr is a far better person to vote considering he has barely talked at all. Right there. And you said it again after that. Hang this scum. | ||
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On January 25 2011 09:28 Pandain wrote: Except again, I would rather lynch a person who wouldn't contribute THAT much anyway, than not lynch at all. And how am I encouraging a tie breaker? By trying to save Shockkey, who later turned green? Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway. What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town." Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all. There are only two possible reasons for the way you played day 1. ! is you're mafia. 2 is you're an idiot. I think 1 is the most likely scenario. | ||
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On January 25 2011 09:32 Pandain wrote: That's actually an honest mistake. You can tell by looking at the post above, which says "This is where I say Shockkey is town". You however said I was unlucky with Shockkey because I thought he was red. No. I said if you were town you were the unluckiest person ever. I've never commented on what you believe or why. My comments are all based on your day one rush to lynch. It only makes sense if you're red. Quit putting words in my mouth. On January 25 2011 09:32 Pandain wrote: How about you actually answer the content rather than say "If you do that your an idiot". I don't deny I'm an idiot, but at least show me the way. I did answer it. How much more clear can I be in my reasons? Flail all you want. | ||
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And what do you mean "day 1 rush to lynch" Furthormore, how many times do I have to say that the day 1 analysis was mostly forced up until I offered Nemesis as a viable lynched, because I was just generating discussion. On January 22 2011 12:58 Pandain wrote: make a choice fast. we can't have a tie On January 22 2011 12:59 Pandain wrote: Fadoodle ##Unvote LSB ##Vote Shockkey That rush. Town was going lose 1. That wasn't good enough for you. | ||
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On January 25 2011 10:24 Barundar wrote: ##vote nemesis Im going to go with my gut. Where the hell is ggq? He'll show up 5 minutes before vote just like day 1. He's #2 on my list. | ||
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On January 25 2011 10:31 Pandain wrote: Yeah, so at the very least what do we find out: Keeping in mind its day 1, meaning I'm only 60-75% sure he's town, meaning theres still a chance he's mafia. And at the very least a useless townie. Keeping in mind that if BC, who i thought was green, died, then it would be as if we started off a townie down, and mafia got a free hit. Keeping in mind that its better at the very least to lynch than not lynch, when a modkill won't gurantee us any information... I don't see why you're so insistent on believing I'm mafia. Either your scum or tunneling, and need to think. A lynch puts us into an almost immediate lylo on day 2. Why would a townie do that? | ||
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On January 25 2011 10:47 Pandain wrote: Okay I'm sorry I don't have knowledge in hindsight to aid me. You can tell the atmosphere of panic, there wasn't much time to think. What your saying is what would've been "ideal". Just because I didn't do that, and keep in mind no one even mentioned not lynching, so it was on NO ONE's mind. So why do you think I am to blame? This is why I am a sad panda sometimes. Because I'm the most active, I get the blame for everything. Your activity hasn't been an issue. But the day 1 lynch can only be explained in 1 way. Well 2 but option 2 doesn't seem to fit. If I'm wrong it's only because you pulled an exceptionally bonehead play at the end of day 1 that guaranteed 3 dead town at the start of day 2. What else am I supposed to think? | ||
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I'm going to be brutally honest and say that towns best interest atm is to allow the tie to go forward. | ||
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On January 25 2011 11:43 Nemesis wrote: Bzzz, Pandain/jackal you guys are just repeating the same thing over and over again -.- Sorry. I've tried to stop but I'm like a moth to the flame. | ||
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On January 25 2011 11:46 kitaman27 wrote: Trying to read through the thread real quick......if someone wants to summarize the current situation that would be helpful ^_^ Me- No You Pandain- No You. | ||
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On January 25 2011 11:46 chaoser wrote: Back from class. I concur, lets let it tie, it buys us a day and lets us have better chances at finding mafia. I'm willing to admit that if I'm wrong on Pandain town loses. If we only lose one to NK we are still in control of our destiny with a much higher percentage of a righteous lynch tomorrow. | ||
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On January 25 2011 11:53 GMarshal wrote: do you guys all want to switch our votes to ggq now?  That would be too funny. | ||
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On January 25 2011 11:59 kitaman27 wrote: Sigh you're going to hate me. ##vote nemesis I'm only going to hate you if he flips green. | ||
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On January 25 2011 12:02 kitaman27 wrote: looks like Barundar trumps my choice anyways. He tied you. And then time ran out. | ||
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On January 25 2011 12:04 Nemesis wrote: Looks like you missed this No I didn't. | ||
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Jackal58
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On January 25 2011 12:09 kitaman27 wrote: I think you've got some explaining to do? He switched his vote to re-establish the tie. Then you changed yours. | ||
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Jackal58
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 25 2011 12:11 kitaman27 wrote: No he didn't. Nemesis (3): Pandain, GMarshal, kitaman27 Pandain (4): Nemesis, Jackal58, Chaoser, Barundar He was voting for Nemesis until you did. Moot point. I'm as dumb as Pandain. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 25 2011 22:28 Hesmyrr wrote: URGH I wasn't aware of that. I thought deadline was more than >24 hrs for some reason. I'll try to find a replacement for myself too. kitaman27 has already replaced you. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 26 2011 05:38 GGQ wrote: Ah, how convenient. All three of you OMGUS me and try to start casting suspicion on each other. Too late, guys. It's painful that we're still probably going to lose tonight when it's so obvious who the mafia are. Don't know why they need to. It's going to be 3-3 shortly. Unless they already know their NK failed but I don't know how that half of the game works. I'm going bowling. I'll be back around 10ish to find out if I wrecked our chances to win or not. | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:13 Barundar wrote: ##Vote GGQ ^.^ Yer dead. Shut up. Voice from beyond. | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:22 chaoser wrote: What would have happened if we shot GGQ btw? It was between him and jackal. You might have won. I was borderline scum with everybody but scum. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 26 2011 12:25 chaoser wrote: When'd you guys start thinking I was mafia? I think I played it pretty well, contributing as much as I did lol When Pandain flipped green. I really should apologize to Pandain but dammit he put us into a lylo situation on day 2 and I really couldn't see anybody but red doing that. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 26 2011 12:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Except my job wasn't so much to analyze as it was to policy shoot people. Really obvious mafia or really retarded townies were going to get shot. Had I not been modkilled I was going to going to coin flip shoot pandain/someone else. Both were town, but both were posting terribly day 1 lol. You scared me. I wasn't disappointed when you were mod killed. I really had no idea where you were playing from | ||
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Jackal58
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On January 26 2011 12:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Just for the next little while assume if I'm in a game that I will sit back and step out if people are playing horrifically (which is what I was doing here). You guys were doing a couple of realllly big no no discussions during day 1. I did the same all through day 2. Pandain - No you. Me - No You. I'm guilty of tunneling on one event. I'm really hoping I do learn from every game I play. | ||
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I really thought he was. Just curious if my bull headed play worked. | ||
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On January 26 2011 12:43 LSB wrote: I claim responsibility for the Mafia loss I claim responsibility for your conception. | ||
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