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On January 07 2011 08:22 Fishball wrote: Decided to join last minute, I haven't read anything yet, including OP. I'll read it later when I have time. I just want to bring this up front first, it will be very unlikely for me to follow LSB's plan. I'm going to do what fishball is doing. I think LSB's list is a nice guideline for what you should be looking for, but it should not be set in stone. It's easily infiltrated and a lot can get screwed up. I think you should rewrite the list LSB with what you think is best for each slot, and then add an alternative choice. For instance, Slot 1 should take CPR doc 100%, so we can keep tabs. Now I would argue that slot 2 should take CV, because we want to minimize confusion in the case of clash. Then again, your plan of staggering the pro-town/mafia-denied roles will make it very difficult for mafia to secure what they want. If we assume the mafia is going to play safe, then this should go smoothly. Yet mafia may be willing to play risky, jeopardizing town's plan of denying and securing in exchange for a member. I think we should leave it up to who gets the role. Now for numbers, I'd say if you want to be pro-town and possibly net a powerful role, go [1-7][1]. This threatens mafia in tying, forcing them to take odder numbers. If you want a strong role and feel you will play it beneficially, go [1-10][1-5]. If you feel a lot of suspicion, you can roll high, can placed towards the middle and check what your suspect picks, though that should be only when you feel very strongly about someone's scumosity. But if you do find an alternate role pick, and that person hasn't been secretive about what they will pick, you net the whole town a traitor or a sneaky scum. But that's also a high risk chance of you checking a townie and getting vanilla, or you making an accurate FoS, but finding that mafia has no plans of diverting from his role. So in short, LSB's list should just highly recommend things. If you get slot 9 and think you want to see if you can get JOAT, Go for it! If you are slot 1, tell everyone you are picking CPR, and then pick GF instead, then you got some 'splainin to do. | ||
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I am going to go [1][1]. I think I will be a competent CPR doc. If I do anything un-town like you can just lynch me, but remember we have to keep an eye on both cpr and CV. But since I go from night 1, and he's not til night 2, we can keep tabs for at least the first day. So town will not go into disarray because of mass confusion on night hits. That was a nice thing to give us Ace. Or we can just leave the slot for a randomn, but I am going [1][1] regardless. Let me get slot 1 dammit.  | ||
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and most likely mafia have read pyp1, so id think theyd be wise to the [?][1] scheme. | ||
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 I'm guessing jackal and fishball went [1][?] because fishball said he would. No complaint here, better off giving it to a random. II'll be looking at the draft numbers closely, and there is really no reason to not to give them. After we get the numbers figured out then we can really analyze how these "lists" are going to go down. | ||
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1. deconduo [4][7] - CPR 2. Kenpachi [7][3] - JOAT 3. kitaman27 [8-20][?] - V 4. CubEdIn [8-20][?] - BB 5. Amber[Light] [8-20][?] - CC 6. Barundar [8-20][?] - D1 7. LayOffRage [8-20][?] - RB 8. bumatlarge [1][1] - D2 9. Jackal58 [1?][?] - DV 10. Fishball [1?][?] - RC 11. HaploPaithan[1/2][?] - Par 12. Eiii [2][3] - AC 13. BloodyC0bbler [2][x] - Pol 14. zeks [3][1] - T 15. Misder [3][2] - M 16. aidnai [3][3] - W 17. JimboSilvers [3][3] - H 18. GGQ [5][3] - BP 19. Beneather [5][x] - J 20. Pigsquirrel [5][x] - PoD 21. Divinek [5][1] - V 22. LSB [5][1] - GF Key - + Show Spoiler + 1. CPR Doc = CPR 2. JOAT 3. Vig = V 4. Bullet Bill = BB 5. Copy Cat = CC 6. Doctor = D1 7. Role Blocker = RB 8. Doctor = D2 9. Day Vig = DV 10. Role Cop = RC 11. Pardoner = Par 12. Alignment Cop = AC 13. Politican = Pol 14. Tracker = T 15. Mason = M 16. Witch = W 17. Hider = H 18. Janitor = J 19. Bulletproof = BP 20. Prince of Darkness = PoD 21. Veteran = V 22. God Father = GF Now for my points. Those roles on the bottom. What is the point? To know what they have? Because you certainly aren't denying them. I think they are better off checking green roles as mafia could easily skit out on not picking those and deny other things. While it is nice to know if a GF or PoD are among us, it's an easy lie to make. Doubt it would be that big of a deal though. They could be so much more useful checking things like completely pro-town roles or some other agenda. I mean mafia cant really do much down there anyway without help from mafia on top. One chink in the chain and mafia could exchange a lot of roles. So I think the further along the bottom you are, the more freedom you should take in checking and picking what you think would benefit town the most. And of course the SK is going to be running around, and hes gonna do whatever he wants is best for him. (hell there could be more then 1.. scary) On January 09 2011 13:31 LSB wrote: This changes everything If the mafia went by the pick plan I outlined, they would have 5 of the top 8 spots. The town Must follow my plan. Following Jimbo's plan is suicide since A good portion of the top spots is probably mafia. My plan solves for this as many of the top picks are 'watch' picks, that cannot abuse their role. In addition, the information roles are forced to share their results, forcing mafia to stick their heads out to scrutiny. FOS on anyone not following the plan A bit of big statement there... so I'm gonna go ahead and say nonsense. I seriously doubt it, but it is possible. There are a lot of chances mafia clashed hard with town. I bet there is a few up there, but DEFINITELY not all five. But if you really feel passionate about this quest of yours LSB, then lol go for it. I'm watching you like a hawk, and this is incredibly odd play. Either you are a very imaginative and irrational townie or you are a chaotic mafia that would rival that of chezinu or BM. If more people agree with you, then it will be strong because town would be very cohesive, if you manage to scumhunt the hell out of mafia and SK. I hope your scumdar is turned on high. Good luck, but I am not following your script here | ||
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[b] Remember the players with most unique number combination have received higher priority in the draft. [b] Does this mean something different then what I think it means? Because I certainly took 1-1 Perhaps Ace has some special rule? Don’t see why people would lie about their numbers that would easily get caught... | ||
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On January 10 2011 04:15 LayOffRage wrote: Originally I was going to pick 6/8. I decided to be a baller and changed my numbers to 1/1. The same as bumatlarge. Aw wow you suck  why you do that may I ask? | ||
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On January 10 2011 13:26 HaploPaithan wrote: For the same reason no one liked LSB's plan. It lets scum know where the roles to target are. Well thats why you can claim a 'blue role' whether defensive or offensive is where serial killers and mafia will be reluctant to hit. If a vet or BP gets hit once, they have done a world of good. Every time a doctor protects someone, thats super. Though yeah unless your vanilla claim can find mafia, keep it to yourself. | ||
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On January 10 2011 22:29 deconduo wrote: I did not get the role I asked for. Mafia must have some way of manipulating the picks. That would be balls. We need the CV to confirm his/her role, so we know exactly how much kp we are dealing with, and whether it can be town guided or not. On a side note, it would be wise for doctors to take into consideration: 1. LSB's list to get a general idea of our strong roles 2. Our good players, as they seem to get sniped more then blues in recent games You know just throwing that out there. .... | ||
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I like aidnai a possible candidate for the first lynch, as you have made a point. His counterpart jumbo seems to have a functional grasp of pyp, made a very nice effort on his plan. I think it's rare for a newer player to kinda blast those protown spiels as scum. I think its to early to call anything on RoL. I think aidnai would prove to be an informative lynch. I think we should have more drama though. I'll enjoy seeing what deconduo says, and what that awful divinek is going to try to get away with. I don't think he's SK cause he isn't mouthing off yet, so he's probably mafia, and he has an experienced teammate who is telling him to stfu lol scrub. | ||
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On January 10 2011 22:32 Amber[LighT] wrote: I think looking into the draft numbers might be a lost cause. Well that's one way to deter town from doing shit. Shame on you! | ||
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On January 11 2011 08:32 aidnai wrote: informative? I haven't said anything yet. Exactly. New player comes into game, gets a shiny red pm. It is smart of him to listen to more experienced peers. He asks tidbits in thread to clarify things he is discussing with his scum buddies. Yet he never really makes solid posts in fear of letting anything bad show. I wouldnt normally pick on a single person for that, but that pattern fish ball presented is interesting, and I would like to see what happens. Jimbo is the opposite. A new player, but he gets a lovely shade of green in his pm. Excited for the game he forges opinions in his head. He vocalizes them because he can't share it with mafia friends and there is no pandain to constantly message him to tell his deepest darkest secrets. In fact, I feel guilty for not suggesting that jimbo take mason. I'm very sure he's town, and if not he's a great addition to tl mafia, whether he is sk or mafia. I'd be completely blindsided. Or perhaps you have some information to give aidnai. Because I faintly recall. I haven't said anything yet. And I agree! | ||
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An easy choice. If hes not mafia, then fishball's speculation loses some cred, and it would seem mroe likely he picked traitor (still waiting for layoff to post his reasons why), but if aidnai is red, there could be easy scum lynches in that little pack. It's an opportunity on 1st lynch. Doesn't happen all that often. | ||
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On January 11 2011 12:14 LSB wrote: This doesn't sound like analysis Bum. It sounds like the good old "we can get information from this lynch! yay!" I want to warn people that it is incredibly easy to misread Aidnai as scum. I used him in Harry Potter to divert the lynch. I didn't realize he had played before. And I've posted my thoughts on him. Even so, The fact that he has played a game before doesn't change my opinions on him. But on the note of Copy cat taking traitor, that could be a problem. Aidnai has claimed he is vanilla from picking traitor, which means one is in the top 8. Although if a traitor is pressured he will claim he is vanilla to cause confusion. So I will present scenarios. Lynching vs Not Lynching We lynch Aidnai 1. Aidnai is traitor. Role goes to Copy Cat, and we assume it was picked. We CPR him. --a) Copycat is killed. No more CC but no more traitors. All other blue roles are in tact as well. --b) Mafia use KP on Copycat, both recruiting him and protecting him from CPR (I believe). While this seems ideal for scum, they waste a KP as we proceed to lynch copycat. We essentially get a free night without mafia's KP, which is the most dangerous. No reason not to CPR him. 2. Aidnai is town. Traitor exists in top 8, copy cat does not get role. Same situation except we have no control over it. We will have to figure this out when we come to this. 3. Aidnai is mafia. We do not lynch Aidnai. 1. Don't lynch anyone. Traitor among us. This would be a fine description of a god awful town. 2. Lynch someone else. --a) Top 8. Assume one of them there is the traitor. ---- They are not. Strong role dies most likely. Traitor gets pat on the back from mafia and they go out for ice cream. ---- They are. Impressive town. --b) Not top 8. Traitor still there... I believe lynching aidnai is the best option. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Lynching vs Not Lynching We lynch LayOffRage 1. LOR is traitor. Role goes to Copy Cat, and we assume it was picked. We CPR him. --a) Copycat is killed. No more CC but no more traitors. All other blue roles are in tact as well. --b) Mafia use KP on Copycat, both recruiting him and protecting him from CPR (I believe). While this seems ideal for scum, they waste a KP as we proceed to lynch copycat. We essentially get a free night without mafia's KP, which is the most dangerous. No reason not to CPR him. 2. LOR is town. Traitor exists in top 8, copy cat does not get role. Same situation except we have no control over it. We will have to figure this out when we come to this. 3. LOR is mafia. We do not lynch LOR. 1. Don't lynch anyone. Traitor among us. This would be a fine description of a god awful town. 2. Lynch someone else. --a) Top 8. Assume one of them there is the traitor. ---- They are not. Strong role dies most likely. Traitor gets pat on the back from mafia and they go out for ice cream. ---- They are. Impressive town. --b) Not top 8. Traitor still there... I believe lynching LOR is the best option. ##Unvote Aidnai ##Vote LayOffRage | ||
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On January 11 2011 13:47 kitaman27 wrote: umm bum? Your analysis is nice and all, but you might wanna reread the thread Yeah I meant LOR but I just ended my thoughts on aidnai and the name was stuck when i typed it up lolol | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On January 10 2011 00:03 LSB wrote: LSB's Plan in a nutshell RED and GREEN spots are obligated to pick their roles 1. CPR Doc 2. JOAT 3. Vig 4. Bullet Bill 5. Copy Cat 6. Doctor 7. Role Blocker 8. Doctor 9. Day Vig 10. Role Cop 11. Pardoner 12. Alignment Cop 13. Politican 14. Tracker 15. Mason 16. Witch 17. Hider 18. Janitor 19. Bulletproof 20. Prince of Darkness 21. Veteran 22. God Father That would leave Barundar as number 4. I know I said I didn't agree with the 100% necessity of picking what you get in the list, but the farther up the list you go the more important it is that you pick the role, or at least threaten to. I don't see why he wouldn't, as it is a strong role. He should claim right now whether he did or not, as he is playing for the town at the moment and we don't know for certain whether LOr is traitor so Barundar should... but he doesn't know if... so how can he really... holy shit Barundar are you ready to confront... + Show Spoiler + Schrodinger's Cat? ![[image loading]](http://www.philosophy.christopher-roberts.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Schrodingers-cat.jpg) Wow it like actually applies... | ||
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FUCK AGAIN I SWITCH THE NAMES God dammit, correction; Is jackal ready to confront schrodinger's cat... ugh now it loses all of its epicness. | ||
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On January 11 2011 13:57 LayOffRage wrote: I say we lynch fishball. don't be gay bum. Sorry man. I'm not the one who picked traitor. :/ As a rule of thumb we really have to lynch you to see if you are telling the truth. Otherwise you could be traitor and force your way. it's like when a DT claims and points to someone, we really have to lynch that person no matter what the accused says. I see potential for fishball to be traitor, but I've based that on what I know of him, and his logic has been more sound then some people here. It's a policy lynch. If you can convince us not to lynch you, then great, but I've gone against policy lynch before (See Penalty Mafia: Bill Murray), and it's the worse feeling in the world to be wrong. I'll see what others say. | ||
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On January 11 2011 16:50 Barundar wrote: You lost me. Who you talking to? I didn't follow the plan, found it retarded to pick Bullet Bill and get insta killed by SK. Sorry barundar, I was referring to jackal. | ||
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I think you people are assuming too much though. If you are going to break down actions, you need to include all scenarios, especially in pyp. I think we need information, but I do see viability in having CPR get our info for us. Otherwise he's dead. small comfort.## unvote layoff rage ## abstain | ||
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## unabstain ## vote layoff rage We can discuss our actions after the lynch with the CPR, and the more town kp we use the better. We have a good shot at hitting non-town personnel before night 2 if do is correctly but just trust me killing LoR right now. I'll break everything down tomorrow. | ||
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The CopyCat situation should be treated delicately, but we have to ask a few questions on this. - Why would Jackal lie? What would he gain as SK or mafia? What would he gain as townie? Well If he's lying, I would pin a high chance of him being the traitor we are looking for, but I think he'd rather claim CC as he knows LoR wasn't the traitor, but then again, he gets heavy scrutiny, which is kinda what the traitor wants, so I'll cross that out for now. As mafia or scum, he draws attention away from himself, which is EXACTLY what he wants, regardless of whether he did or did not get/pick CC. As town, if he wants to be a real hero, he will claim it, but it would be in good interests if he said he didn't get it as town. If he was lying, I would make an exception of LaL in this case. If he is town and he is CC, he should tell us to prevent unnecessary deaths of strong roles, and if he gets found out, we will kill him. So, there is a good chance he is not town-aligned. - If Jackal is telling the truth, what should we do? We should try to find the Copy Cat. If CopyCat is town and didn't follow the plan, he should claim and get a lot less FoS then if he was found out. We do have roles to find out obviously. Tracker could be used, but role cop has the most business up there, and should be checking who is most likely. I'd have to agree with the sentiments that CPR and Vig would not really want to steal that as scum/SK. Scum JOAT and BB however know they are denying town roles, so I suggest those two get role copped. As for traitor, it's confirmed in the Top 8, so Parity doesn't really want to be up there. Again Role Cop has even more use finding someone up there (Wow that role cop sure is a useful guy) Also, if no one brings up better candidates, I'd like to suggest people to protect based on roles and LSB's list and whether or not they followed it. deconduo Kenpachi kitaman27 Barundar bumatlarge Eiii zeks aidnai And then from based on what they have been posting, I'd highly suggest ME!.... Or whoever we agree not to hit with CPR | ||
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On January 12 2011 04:52 LSB wrote: About the Traitor I would like to talk about my experiences as a traitor in PYP2. The key thing I did was kept the town on the topic of the traitor and tried to waste the day lynches on the traitor. This worked, and it was a great way to waste lynches. Instead of wasting our day discussion talking about who is traitor or who is not, we should just focus on other things and work on the traitor at night. But the thing about the traitor was, once I was discovered, the Mafia Compulsive Vig also fell with me, since the Compulsive Vig hit me night 2 and did not kill me. We can use the traitor as a way to link in other roles and drag down mafia. This is an effective way to use our blues and also to confirm a lot of people up top. Two Key Facts about the traitor/copycat 1. The traitor/copycat is a role pick and has no other special powers- The Role Cop could be a great way to find the traitor and Copy Cat. In addition.the traitor won't be able to do what they normally want to do. We can then use this to verify a lot of the people on the list. Here's the Plan. Deconduo will shoot LayOffRage If LayOffRage is killed, deconduo is probably not the traitor. Kenpachi will shoot Amber[Light]. Amber[Light] will Roleblock Kenpachi. If Amber[Light] is the traitor, he won't have the Roleblock ability and will die Kitaman27 will be checked by the Bullet Bill. Kitaman27 should have a gun. If he doesn't he's the traitor. Barundar will be checked by the Rolecop. Insta vertification if Barundar is Copycat/Traitor Fishball will be Tracked. Since Fishball has a role, he should be visiting someone. Night 2, we then will check the remaining people Jackal58, CubEdIn and Kenpachi ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/vlioD.jpg) A short summary 2. The traitor if hit by a mafia member at night will be converted- The best way to verify our CPR doc and Vig is by having them kill the traitor for us. If they are unable to do it, it could be a way to confirm them. Once we found a traitor. It's Better for the town to use nightkills on it. By the way this is still applicable, and I think most parts should be carried out. I think CPR should hit Jackal, but thats just because I think there is a good chance he might be scum, and I wouldn't take CC in top 4 if I was town, mafia or SK. I'm reluctant to hit the top 4 since they are strong roles. We either need to agree on a solid candidate or not use it, which means we can't prove deconduo took that role this night, and then night 2 comes along and a lot of confusion can start to happen. | ||
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As for people I know who think they are successfully lurking, I will find you.Again docs, I feel like I'm gonna get shot, so if I don't get protection, hopefully I can dissuade KP ;P | ||
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On January 13 2011 09:47 aidnai wrote: Hmm... actually, having deconduo hit 'someone' doesn't prove anything, as there could easily be a situation such as - deconduo (red) picks CC - Scum buddy further down the draft (as an example, say jackal) picks up CPR doc. - CPR doc is free to hit kenpachi, or jackal, or fishball, whichever mafia finds most beneficial - town believes they have a role confirmed, mafia just picked up another power role. The only benefit we can rely on from 'knowing' deconduo is CPR doc is that we control his KP. I'm sorry I wasn't here to bring this up earlier, but we should not have allowed Deconduo to pick for himself between three people. In future nights, I certainly hope that we make it explicit who we want targeted. Actually, if mafia/SK uses their KP to screw you over, we'll have a very low KP evening which I don't have a problem with. And unless mafia has a bunch of one-time KP roles at their disposal (JOAT is the only one I can think of atm), they won't be able to frame you well because the KP count will be so low. Additionally, if they used this tactic to save on of their own, you would only be as suspicious as the person you targeted. Deconduo: just as one small thing you can do, please announce your target preferably after night actions are due and before the day post is up, if at all possible. If you think this is a bad idea, give me a chance to persuade you please. Obviously they would be sacrificing deconduo eventually, but they would have +1kp that we wouldn't know where to start looking. Same goes with Vig. It's a easy flaw in LSB's list. I would advise you to take a look at pyp2 and look for radfield's plan. It tries to check these roles by pick checking by percentage chance. It worked decently, but there were still so many flaws in the plan. You can't really guarantee any town plan will deny strong roles from mafia or keep them in check, but we can rely on a massive number of protown power roles to investigate scenarios such as this. While LSB's list may seem too simplistic, it's just a reliance on sheer number of roles given to town. To really check him, we need a blue to claim, but for right now we have to be content with him following the plan. Also if you have better ideas on who we should kill, you should make your case regardless of whether or not he will be here to see it. If non-town KP is used to stop deconduo's hit, then that is amazing for us. His target will be notified and decond will know, giving us info... and one less dead townie yay! | ||
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On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote: Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge (Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo | ||
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And about LSB and BC. Either they are scum or SKs. There is still a traitor, but that isn't even an issue right now. If deconduo really wants my vote off him, he will dayvig either LSB or BC. Then maybe I'll consider not lynching you today. | ||
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You've got 2 hours to dayvig them. Or you can play the game and day vig me. And then I'll watch town try to lynch ace directly after. | ||
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On January 14 2011 10:33 CubEdIn wrote: + proper spelling. it's 3:33 am. think i'll hit the sack. So you are from Romania, that explains a lot + Show Spoiler +  messin' with youDeconduo, use your dayvig, because regardless of what it is, we need to see what we are going to do. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + This is BumAtLarge. Innocent little girl who grew weary of a straight forward world. One day he decided to journey into the world of whimsical fantasies. We know it as Pick Your Power 3! ![[image loading]](http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsO/13079-406.gif) This is LSB. He seems like a pleasant fellow. bum followed him for a bit to see what he was all about. Turns out, LSB has an agenda. He talks fancy of a magical land where townies live in peace. All he really wants to do is eat some oysters. I don't blame him, oysters are delicious! But he's also really trying to screw town over. This is the town. All the silly innocents that follow LSB blindy because he makes big posts and says things like "Here is what town needs to do..." and when someone disagrees with him, he shrugs it off adorably with words like "Poppycock!" I think town should think about LSB says, and if it's possible that not everything he says is true. This is BC. He's been looking innocent enough, but his agenda is pretty clear. He wants dem oysters. He hasn't said much against LSB's way, but he is fed up with LSB. Perhaps it is a plan between them, but they are most likely no longer buddies This is deconduo. What is he doing there with that paintbrush? I do not know! Tell me town. What is deconduo doing? ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gxq5uJIKars/S43ZBbWHisI/AAAAAAAACfE/9dIQ0aypoKA/s640/alice-in-wonderland.jpg) Oh look! It's Fishball and Cubedin! What a lovely party! ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/ff/CaterpillarDisney.jpg/200px-CaterpillarDisney.jpg) This is aidnai, I don't think he likes anyone too much, but I don't think he's necessarily bad. What does town think? ![[image loading]](http://www.bandofcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/disney-characters_cheshire-cat.jpg) This is Chezinu. I'd add more, but I think this is good enough for now. | ||
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And BC has upgraded to 25% town 75% mafia in my book. Shame he decided to not help at all during the first day And should I reveal what info I have now? | ||
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On January 16 2011 01:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You haven't helped at all, so your 95% red, 5% town, yay for made up stats? Well if that's how you legitimately feel, I'm not going to argue with that. Doesn't help you though in the eyes of everyone else. Mafia want to kill SK a lot more desperately then town atm. Guess the next the thing on the agenda is lynching deconduo and then scouting around for anymore SKs? And name one thing in this game I haven't given a correct output on. I'm not going to argue with you further until later, because I don't have the means to get rid you. You should probably try to kill me tonight while we townies still have this deficient intelligence. Maybe your mafia squad can still save face and help lynch you. | ||
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On January 16 2011 02:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your inactive dude. I know I'm not red, and have no idea of your role. HOWEVER You are a veteran player. You know behavioural analysis is what wins games, instead your just sitting back and not actively participating. You have seen the current games, or at least should have heard of them. Towns are getting slaughtered for having no idea how to analyze. You as an experienced player should be showing them how to go about this, instead your sitting back. I honestly don't care you think I'm red, my issue is that only one player has seriously laid any analysis on me, which he stopped doing once I responded to said analysis, he even said he would hold back judgement until more experienced players commented on one of my comments and no one responded. Stop lurking, start playing. You should know better. That's good advice, even though I'd think PYP can be tons more information based, but that for every piece of information given, you can form now analysis around it. I will try to analyze a player I find suspicious, but as of this moment, analysis involves opportunity to lynch. Assuming we do lynch deconduo or not (our relationship with him is completely information based as of now since he is playing for his survival), we do not get a lynch til say day 4. I take some blame for not being here for the end of the day to help persuade those to actually push a lynch through. But really to anyone who abstained on that day or didn't think that was important, that is either obvious scum play or everyone is daft. Also BC... On January 16 2011 03:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You are my favorite new player! I honestly hope you keep this level of performance up in other games. I've said this twice now about Jimbo during day 1. Have you really been paying attention this game? -_- Stop stealing my compliments! | ||
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On January 10 2011 08:58 zeks wrote: According to LSB's plan I'm supposed to take Tracker - and for many reasons others have listed I'm not going to follow it fully. As a cover my ass tactic I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch. Not following LSB, no surprise. Well, I believe mafia tried to spread out their opinions on this plan, as it was an easy way to work around it. You wouldn't get any FoS if you flat out rejected it. On January 10 2011 10:12 Fishball wrote: Preliminary Mafia list. - BloodyC0bbler - zeks - Misder - aidnai/JimboSilvers (pick one) I was the one who pointed out the abnormal picture, but I never once directed town to look for those players who might be lying. It doesn't make sense for town/mafia to lie. There is no gain whatsoever, besides drawing attention to themselves. It was fortunate that this was sorted out by Ace, but nice try there BC. Oh, like I mentioned before, if I'm town, there is a good chance BC is red. 14. zeks [3] [1] 15. Misder [3] [2] 16. aidnai [3] [3] 17. JimboSilvers [3] [3] 3-1, 3-2, 3-3. Really? I'm picking aidnai due to this post. Are you daft? No, you can't be this bad... I hope. I thought I'd bring this up again by fishball. At first I thought he was trying to stir the pot, and perhaps he was a traitor in out midst. But I had read th reasons over, and it seemed to hold some water. Now that zeks is dead, I'm starting to think fishball was scum hunting like a pro. None of the other accused are dead. Does that say something? On January 11 2011 09:35 zeks wrote: We should be using CPR as an extra town lynch. Infact the CPR should be working with town goals and not randomly hitting people every night - so even if decon is infact scum we can still control his power or risk himself getting lynched. Seems to believe the CPR is in play, didn't seem to suspect him of SK. But I think this kinda gives a hint that mafia may not really care about "town's kp"? We should probably be more aggressive with where we tell known KP to hit. I don't want scum influence turning this into a wishy-washy subject. On January 11 2011 13:06 zeks wrote: ##abstain incase i somehow dont get to vote tomorrow day 1 pardon = no Does not want to kill Aidnai or LoR atm. Interesting. On January 12 2011 07:20 zeks wrote: This is how I understand it: If LayOffRage is indeed traitor and decon shocks him then he dies If LayOffRage is indeed traitor and decon shocks him while mafia hits him also then he lives, and he converts to mafia. @Kenpachi People seem to think you're scummy no matter what you do, lol. Although at the #2 spot not picking JOAT is a giant FoS imo. Out of all the plans you've come up with LSB I actually think this is the most sensible one. In order to confirm decon we're going to need a sheep to sacrifice and its probably best to sacrifice a vanilla in order to test that decon did get CPR (sorry Jackal). We should quickly verify the top people by night 1 especially decon. As for lynch - with the good spread of votes between multiple candidates I think one of them probably is scum. None of the arguments towards LoR or aidnai have been particularly convincing to me but if I had to choose one I'd pick LoR just on the basis of aidnai having the more important role which can tell us a shitload of info after night 1. Having said that I will place my vote a bit later tonight. "Most sensible" lol, notice he apologizes to jackal. He knows jackal is town, and there is no way for him to know if LoR is traitor, but he isnt scum so guess he can die. Picks LoR over aidnai. On January 12 2011 08:23 zeks wrote: Yes I'd like to give kenpachi a second chance. If he were scum he really didn't have to come out and claim that he didn't pick JOAT and let us figure it out ourselves. Tries to act like general town figure-head, granting pardon on kenpachi's actions. Doesn't necessarily mean ken is scum, but let's keep our minds open. On January 12 2011 10:31 zeks wrote: ##vote LayOffRage because we really need a witch more at this point. Decisive scum! I would also like to point something out about aidnai that is very suspicious. Mafia clearly did not want him dead. He also used his power to save haplo. I didn't find haplo scummy previously, but every other person that died that night was town. I think it's fairly safe to assume that aidnai an haplo may be scumbuddies. Or they are townies with a lot of vitality! I'd like you views on this. On January 14 2011 10:51 zeks wrote: i'd prefer we narrow down the traitor list ... but if we had to choose between LSB / BC i'd choose LSB for orchestrating this whole fiasco and now pretty much all our roles are fished out. And the fact that he tried to get us all to buy into the plan and he didnt buy into his own plan. The key thing is that decon does use his day vig ability on someone so we know he's not CPR. I think we need some more time to think about this...tomorrow is fine with me too just not too late or I'd think he's stalling for time and we forget or something. Would like to hear the answers to some of the questions still so we get more info like lynch candidates who kitaman is going to shoot (he's still one of the traitor suspects) and we haven't confirmed his role eiii's parity cop check any other people that may have useful information that they found from their abilities last night possibly The last thing zeks said? Quoted aidnai... (he comes up a lot when we are talking about zeks) It's also funny the people aidnai is proposing to shoot. At the end there, I'd like to think zeks is trying to fish out those last power roles. And perhaps they should, but not on scum terms. So based off me going back, I think a general list of mafia purely from zeks analysis: Aidnai - Maybe I was wrong about him being town. zeks' death sheds a lot of light on this character. Haplo - If aidnai is scum, then without a doubt, haplo is scum. I want to look into this more. Misder/Jimbo - A bold statement, but from zeks analysis, they aren't shining stars. fishball's little thing, and that almost transparent team work between all of them. Hopefully that can awaken some thoughts. I' propose that these would't be lynch targets, but rather night hits that SK(s) and town KP should look into. They'd give a lot more info revolving around our only confirmed scum. | ||
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On January 16 2011 23:02 Amber[LighT] wrote: I was the person who was connected to Zeks. I had no idea that he was mafia, but I couldn't really trust him. Here is every correspondence between us throughout the game. Also note I role blocked pigsquirrel, and he can confirm that. Note I sent him a few extra PM's that were not included in this. I will fish them out and they will be posted below this PM chain... Oooooh more juicy tidbits. This may confirm amber, but there is also a chance one of zeks partners died night 1. I don't think a mason partner dying reveals that. Plus, that whole conversation would have had to been arranged, so yeah I believe amber. Apparently from scum, fishball is traitor. Good to know, thanks mafia! | ||
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I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed. | ||
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On January 17 2011 09:13 Kenpachi wrote: Interesting.. Eii lied? Did he claim? I must have missed it. Well I know he is lying so until he responds to his situation. ##Vote Eiii | ||
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And we are just ditching my zeks history lesson? I was proud of that I guess I have to analyze people who are alive? But they get annoyed and yell at me...Also I'm still a tad confused where Cube and amber are roleblocking people, and what BC is saying about confirmed townies. I'd like to get in on being in the confirmed category :D | ||
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On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote: Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret. I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed. AHEM, almost forgot. Night 1. Batman was feeling frisky tonight. A night on the town would do him some good. He gets his mask and detective kit and flies into the night! Bum decided Kenpachi was his first visit. Bum needed to get those upper classmen to pay for taking his top draft role (CURSE REBIRTH AND ALL OF HIS SMURF). Bum fondly remembers going all hero on LoR for claiming vanilla after attempting to take traitor. Bum was like if Rorschach and Gargamel had a baby. Bum reached Kenpachi's house and decided to go on the front Porsche. He Forded the fence with both Hondas the rails and leaped over despite his Chevy muscles. He peeked into the windows and saw darkness. A Jack of the trades would be busy in the situation town was in. After whisper shouting "ROLE COP!" , Bum head butted the glass. His sharp wit made the glass dissipate without a sound. Awesome doesn't make a sound. And Batman is awesome so. Bum crept through the house, as he had express permission by Ace to actually trespass an look through stuff. Bum was tinkering around and saw a lot of incriminating stuff. Mario mustaches, glasses the size of large coins (which is average for glasses) and assorted Italian cuisine. "Well maybe Jack is an Italian name." Bum heard a noise from the other room. He Snickered as something less awesome made it's presence known. Kenpachi for certain. Bum snuck into the chamber. First thing, Kenpachi was extraordinarily fat. Uncountable Mounds of fatness. He also noticed 100Grand on the table, and also about hundred thousand dollars on the table. A picture on the wall with Kenachi shaking Babe Ruth's hand. This guy had his roots deep, I mean no one has that much hair. He also seemed to have connections. This must be the mafia crimelord. But Bum must have also gotten tricked into coming here. Bum was gonna try to sneak out, when he heard footsteps. Thinking on his feet, Bum quickly turned his attention away from his shoes and ran behind the Bossman , taking off his mask. 2 Thugs walked in with guns pointing at some fellas. One of them looked at Bum and said "RaRaRee, I spy a townie" but a thug kicked him in the knee. Persistent, the guy said "RaRaRass, no really that guy ain't mafia!" The thug proceeded to kick him in the other knee. "Don't talk to Tony that way!" Kenpachi told them a muffled phrase, that Bum assumed was "Take em to the mattresses" Bum guessed those guys were about to be raped anally or something, and Bum being a massive homophobe, used his homophobe powers to teleport outside away from awkward gay situations. "That was gay and awkward" EDIT: Then Bum walked down the driveway and saw all these police officers preparing for a sting blahblahblah bum realized it wasn't really the mafia GF as far as town thought. Well that sucks I started writing it after night 1 but then the GF claims started happening, so I thought I'd save this claim for later. I guess I'll write the night 2 one later... I have plans! | ||
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On January 17 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote: Confirm you were role blocked last night? lol @ bum. How dare you use your story telling abilities to prevent me from wanting to hit you. :p Another lol @ fish for going back to calling my a SK. I have no evil santa to protect my wholesome townieness this time. So now I actually help -_- | ||
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"ANYTHING PERTAIN TO ME? REFUTE! OK GOODNIGHT." I'd like to think fishball is town so that his zeks' list actually means something. But that would leave a traitor in these 4; Kenpachi, kitaman, Amber and cube. I will try to break these down right now so there is no confusion. Kenpachi: Claimed GF Proof - BC and LSB tried to grab GF also, LSB is dead SK vanilla. Bum Role checked. - Chance of LSB lying is improbable, so GF is in the game. Both BC and bum would have to be lying. Ken has to be GF or these three are mafia Not Traitor kitaman27: Claimed Vig Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK. Possible Traitor Amber[Light] Claimed RoleBlocker Proof - Kenpachi confirmed he was roleblocked night 1? Unless Cube and amber are in cahoots, it's not something Amber would risk, and also amber was zeks mason. Don't think mason would ally with traitor. Pig also was RB'd night 2, hasn't said anything. Not traitor Likely town CubEdIn Claimed Doctor Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it. Not Traitor | ||
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On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote: Bum? I thought we had something special. I could have been your gender-confused batgirl! This post seems very focused towards making me look bad. I admit I haven't been able to prove I'm vig, but think of it this way. The traitor does not want to eliminate other traitor suspects because that narrows down who could be the bad guy. I have been pushing fishball for two days now to get him lynched because I know I am not the traitor. Fishball has been ignoring the traitor hunt for the most part. I also took a hit last night. While that doesn't clear me, the scum clearly want me dead. Even the scum mason admits I'm the town's best way to win. He also brings up this SK accusation. Seems like a common scum theme. Could you explain your reasoning for thinking fishball is town? You pass him up for discussion without giving a solid reason why. I just want to make sure all the facts are out there. In PYP I'd argue Info is just as important as analysis, but that's because I suck. I want fishball to be town so his zeks' list will real and I want BC to be wrong. I would take it personally if BC is really scum here. Well I guess the fastest way to see if it is true is to kill fishball. His death would just confirm so much. I don't like letting BC be right :X SELFISH DESIRES MUST BE LEASHED (for now) ##Unvote Eiii ##Vote Fishball | ||
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On January 17 2011 13:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote: He never claimed he got parity cop but he did say he would try to get it. You voting for him after you know he flipped vanilla townie is retarded. If he flipped vanilla town, and we know traitor was chosen befor ehim in the list he can only be 100% town by your own role. This is the most what the fuck reasoning to vote ever. You could have read the thread to know he hadn't claimed. Also, it is far too convienient that you checked a claimed player already, checked an inactive and got back innocent, while not actively participating in analysis. You have rehashed information multiple times, or chimed in on possible targets but have failed to actually bring forward targets of your own. I will be analyzing you as you are insanely obviously red at this point. Your role claim / target choices just proves it. Now, lets get to the matter at hand. Town majority at least till this point was Fishball is traitor. for what I can see, town majority still thinks he is He claimed mafia medic protected him, IE we know he was recruited last night This also means for him to survive "decon's" hit, decon must be red as well (mafia med won't prot him, just recruit him) Factor in Fishballs play today, He is actively trying to kill an almost essentially confirmed player (yes fishball, he actually is almost confirmed) over not factoring in a random situation that was insanely unlikely. You have seperately called him traitor and sk in previous posts which would lead to the confusion of his saying "sk can't be traitor". EVERYONE STOP AND VOTE FISHBALL. At the moment he is being counter productive, and if I am correct and he flips recruited mafia, we have just nabbed decon as well. Bum is obviously red, and my next closest suspect is Pigsquirrel who I will also be analyzing. Lets just win this game already and stop with the nonessential infighting. We have a list of townies that are basically good to go, time to remove the ones who aren't contributing and obviously anti town. I know what I have to do to win. I don't need to confirm myself, I've been here this whole game telling town what I thought and giving them hell for what I thought was stupid, and you've been trying to do that also, except a day later. You let day 2 slip by without lynching anyone. So you are most likely busing fishball when half the active people are already voting for him and now deconduo is red? Of course we are going to lynch him next after killing 3 more townies during the night whether he is SK or scum. And it wouldn't surprise me if he did pop red now that you "deduced" it. The only thing stopping you is town isn't going to blindly believe everything you say. Jimbo was hit right after you said "I like this guy!" You knew he was smart, but that kill didn't go your way. Can't wait for him to get back and refute this scenario you've created. Now you are trying to bully the remainder of the people like Amber who is 95% town into following you by insulting them. I'll never get that why you and fishball think insulting someone's intelligence is the best way to persuade them. And of course the other 4 in the top besides fish and deconduo are town because their stories rely on one another, and damn you don't have a scum among them. Well let's kill them with kindness and "insta towny" all of them. WE'LL HAVE A HOLIDAY EVERYONE BC IS GIVING OUT INSTA TOWNIE REP! I've got mine, and I think you are banking way too hard that town will lynch me during lylo. You'd be running short on the list of people you can bus then? | ||
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On January 17 2011 14:22 Fishball wrote: Hahahahaha. Really? You just further proved to everyone that you have zero reading comprehension ability whatsoever. Ok, let Daddy guide you. What have I been posting about you for the past hour or so? Yes, the possibility and likelihood of you being a SK. Good, good... Now, if I accuse you to be a SK, can you also be the Traitor? Come on Johnny, you can do it! You already answered this once! Uh, I hear a "No?" That's right!. So Johnny, why did you ask this question in the first place? I also like how I specifically said this. + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2011 13:08 Fishball wrote: I wasn't even talking about "who is the Traitor". I was talking about you. The only comment I had regarding your list, was to point out the fact that you were hiding "certain" possibilities, something that you shouldn't do if you want to make your post convincing. I even said + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2011 09:41 Fishball wrote: Exactly, I don't need you to change your mind. I'm not going to bother, how hard is it to understand? and earlier, + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2011 09:10 Fishball wrote: Let me ask you, what is there for me to say? I've addressed the Traitor situation literally the entire game. It's proven no one gives a shit what I have to say. It that doesn't tell you I'm not fucking talking about the Traitor, then I give up. To me, this is a huge slip up. Then you say: Numerous times I've said that I'm not talking about the Traitor, yet time after time, you keep commenting on who you think I think who the Traitor is. You are hilarious. You can paint yourself green all over, but what confirms you as a "Town Aligned KP"? Hell, I just even quoted one of my older posts, which I assume you choose to ignore or failed to read or comprehend or all of the above. This isn't really a surprise to me. and here, I pointed out how being a top Traitor suspect, my accusation does not have any conflict of interest with Town. I can never be sure that you are a SK or not. You only lead me to vote for you after multiple logical slip ups and your stealthy behavior. When I questioned your post, you used this as a reason. + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote: I didn't list the possibility that I might not be vig because I know I am vig. I'll give you that. So let's say, there is a list of 3 players, and there is a Mafia among them. If one of them claims he is not Mafia, does that mean the Mafia has to be among the other two? That's how weak your reasoning is, and explains a lot about yourself. Then when all my posts are directed at you, for some reason, you can interpret that "as me and my insight on the Traitor", even when there are multiple posts indicating I'm NOT talking about the Traitor. You are so subjective, this is beyond me. It's really hard for me to believe that you are truly Town at this point, enough to warrant my vote. If we catch a SK, that's instantly -1 KP. If we catch a Mafia, the KP remains the same. To me, you're a solid candidate for a SK, and that's all I have to say. And here is fishball ignoring BC because they think they've bused properly here? So now he's spouting stuff at kitaman? On January 17 2011 14:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Bum is #10 on the draft list, I quoted bum's post to it. The point is he flat out disagreed with a plan and said he wasn't following it, which would mean he wouldnt take rolecop -_-. I'm not going to explain stuff to you. But to aidnai, I picked Role Cop. I doubted people above me would take it, and I could scum hunt with it. I said it was a good guideline. What more do you want? | ||
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On January 17 2011 14:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Bus? Dude, go compare your play to zeks, sup same shit. You are feigning activity, you have done 0 real analysis on finding scum. Period. You can come out all you want and say "i think so and so is x" without an actual post behind why you believe so its useless and fluff posts. It gives you the appearance of being active and contributing while in actuality lurking and keeping back. You also kept relatively inactive in thread all through day 2 until you were called out. As for the pushing of fishball now? If he flips red it gives us another one, decon. Compare fish's play to today till any other day and hes suddenly more active, gone from "i don't give a shit/post somewhat intelligently" to massive FoS someone who has yet to do anything massively anti town. Its chaos. But his play is drastically different now, what changed? Simple, he was given an "out" to live today. Far too convienient and most likely a lie Gonna keep building this up til day 5. It's almost insulting you are comparing me to zeks. It's as if you are stating that you are the sole reason fishball and deconduo are going to get lynched! That is funny. Long before you decided to start posting, deconduo should have died day 2 and fishball would die today. The only person you've outted is "me" In fact, if you are so sold on me and my feigned activity, you should lynch me now. I mean town will follow you right now, right? Oh wait you need to theoretically buy votes by killing fishball and deconduo, by "your" analysis, as if town couldn't figure out THE ONLY POSSIBLE TRAITOR, and a guy WHO CLAIMED SK. I don't need to say anymore. Deconduo practically claimed because I said to test DayVig hits. DID I HAVE TO DO THAT? As town I sure as hell did. If it wasn't lylo by day 5, I'd like to see your excuses if you actually got me to flip and find I was town. Really, you just need to dodge medic for a night to make lylo come unless you've got PoD tucked away. I'm confident you won't pull this off. | ||
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On January 17 2011 14:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You specifically said you weren't following the plan then follow it. Do you want me to go hunt down your post where fishball said he wasn't going to follow it, you quote it and say your going with fishball here? Like, dude you said TWICE you weren't going to follow it, why the last minute decision? then you use a rolecheck and reveal its results after the guy claims his role? Wow, best move in the world. then the next one on a super inactive player. Awesome scum hunting yo. Why would you not use it on a player like kita, fishball, myself, cube or the like WHO ARE ALL IN THE CENTER OF this. Fishball points fingers at me and kita. You pointed some at kita, myself and are sure fishball isn't traitor. Kita thought I was, etc.... Yet you chose eiii who wasn't on any radars? at all? really? I didn't know fishball was traitor, as it was still possibly for kita to be. You were certain. I guess that's my fault. Pick anyone in this game for me to rolecheck. I mean we have that time to decide while you are busy single handedly rescuing town from fishball and deconduo. I picked Role Cop, because I could get Role Cop. Is this really all are you down to? Whether or not I followed this list? I said I wasn't and I did. I'm sorry I wasn't going to be Eiii who said "Oh I'm going parity" and then pick parity. Kita will come back Vig, Fish will come back traitor, you would come back vanilla and cube would come back doctor. That's what I assumed at beginning of night 2. I guess now in hind sight I should have Rolechecked you and found..? CPR? I guess now that you found that since I claimed something toher then what you thought I picked, I shouldn't be believed? Enough, we have a lot of time to mull this over, and plenty of time to get rid of my convenience. | ||
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On January 17 2011 14:47 Kenpachi wrote: ALSO, I think it would have been pro-town for bum to have confirmed me as God Father Day 2. LSB and BC already did that at that time to my "convenience" | ||
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So it's very clear from my perspective that the following are mafia. Deconduo HaploPaithan BC PigSquirrel This seems pretty clear now. Though I am not sure Haplo actually has parity, I don't even believe he knows how it functions. Look. On January 19 2011 00:43 HaploPaithan wrote: Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop. N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same. @JumboShivers The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop. "I got the result same?" I'd like for him to clarify. But he should have it. So! Decon = CC Haplo = parity (have to check this, there might be some more slight possiblities, but that would involve kita being CPR rather then vig, would be retarded for mafia to take things like parity/mason instead of extra KP) BC = PoD/CPR Pig = PoD/CPR Assuming kita gets shot, he needs to hit either of those two so we can lynch the other. BC has conveniently assumed PoD is pig, but that is completely interchangeable in every scenario. I bet every shred of my dignity that BC has PoD, and pig has CPR. I get shot this night, I pop town. BC then proceeds to get lynched, and mafia has another night of CPR. This is the obvious situation at hand. I guess I have to really defend my integrity here? BC has constantly downplayed me for my 'lack of contribution' which I find ABSURD. He hasn't pointed out anyone that someone hasn't already. Guess why deonduo is CONFIRMED NON-TOWNIE? ME MOTHER FUCKERS. On January 13 2011 21:39 bumatlarge wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 13 2011 17:06 JimboSilvers wrote: Wow what the hell do you think you pansies are doing here. I leave, and everyone decides on the brilliant idea of lynching LayOffRage, who claimed vanilla who picked traitor. He claimed to have failed at picking traitor, which no scum in his right mind would do. His lynch was pretty much opposed by nobody, and nobody stepped up to defend him. So he's obviously not scum, and he claimed traitor is above him. Yet you guys decided to lynch him for no other reason than because you thought he was lying. Or you were afraid of lynching a witch. Brilliant. Its 17 players left and 4 people died last night. If one hit was a JOAT hit, then its another 4 hits tonight + 1 lynch = 12 players left. There are 5 are mafia, 6 if mafia recruited the traitor, which would make it game. If it wasn't a JOAT and there's 2 SKs, then its 5 hits tonight which is even worse. So this is a potential lylo. Even if we correctly lynch today, its 4 mafia left and we have few leads. So priorities for right now are that we need to lynch red, and we need to get rid of questionable KP sources. deconduo is supposedly the CPR doctor. But besides all the attention he gets from his role, he is nothing but a useless, space wasting, unreliable heap of uselessness. In his first few posts, deconduo asks a few questions and puts out a couple one liners about LSB's plan. He doesn't offer anything conclusive and doesn't try to put forward any new ideas. A little later on, he quotes Fishball and says: Doesn't offer any more opinions and doesn't follow up on this comment. He just comes in, pops in a negative statement, and disappears from the thread for an entire day. What is his point? He certainly isn't invested in his opinions. The next day, he comes back, picks a "random" number, and gets first pick. Other than that, he contributes nothing. Has a panic "crisis" where he claims he didn't get the role he picked. All this time its just one liners. What is he trying to do? Make it look like he is active or something? His vote post is interesting. He lays out the three candidates, lists general reasons to vote for them, but is very wishy-washy and doesn't take a real stand, meandering his way around lynch. He just picks one but doesn't seem convinced about who he's voting for. Right after that, he asks "On a last note, do you guys want me to zap someone tonight, and who do you want me to zap? Don't forget mafia can manipulate the 'zap vote' just as easily as they can manipulate a lynch." That last sentence is just terrible. Why does he need to mention this statement? It seems like he is just giving himself an out when a townie dies. Next, he pops out of nowhere to accuse Amber[LighT] of OMGUS voting for aidnai. Yet he doesn't like the way aidnai is playing either. So what is it? deconduo isn't putting any thoughts into his post. He's pointing fingers without pointing fingers. In his next useless post, he says: Which best suspects? Why didn't you mention these earlier? Why were you so wishy washy in your vote post yet suddenly say that the "best suspects" are at the top? And following this, his next post says he'll random who to hit between Kenpachi, Jackal58, and Fishball. This is suspicious. He doesn't want to be accountable for his choice. And perhaps he even wants to protect one of his mafia buddies by giving a list and picking one at "random". deconduo's posts bring up more questions than answers. First he is clearly lurkiing the thread. He tries to spread doubt through the town, and uses questionable methods to determine who to zap. He doesn't take responsibility for his actions, and just seems to be flailing around looking for a consensus. A consensus that would allow him to blame his missteps on the town as a whole. As a bonus, deconduo has night KP. Getting rid of that will give us a bit more time and hopefully give us at least another day to find another red. ##Vote Deconduo I love this guy, I wish I could have told him to pick mason I've got an idea. The top three can prove themselves. One is a CC, right? They have DayVig then (?Assuming first kill is the first passed?). All they need to do is type: Kill: bumatlarge (Yay, I'm not DayVig!) Or someone else. That way we can know for certain who is what. So deconduo, kitaman and kenpachi, proceed to do this ASAP. If you are not DayVig, it will do nothing. Also, if Dayvig is scum, I'd advise him to use it on someone they consider SK, as I believe it will kill them. There are supposedly 2, as we don't even know if a JOAT is in play, let alone used their ability. ##Vote deconduo WHY, on this lovely green planet would I EVER point this out? Of course he was already getting shit, and likely someone would have pointed this out, but I did keep my vote on him the rest of the day. He nearly got lynched (I did say I would have taken my vote off, but the dry wall wasnt going to do itself) when I didn't need to keep the vote there and buy mafia another day with a no lynch (which they got anyway, because certain individuals were splitting the vote on decon and fish). What was BC doing? Paving the way for a mafia victory. He really did a great job getting LSB out there and having deconduo kill him (no sarcasm, really nice catch BC ). Speaking of that, let's see this again...On January 15 2011 06:22 deconduo wrote: All the opinions I could find: BloodyC0bbler : LSB Amber[LighT]: Fishball kitaman27: Fishball Fishball : LSB HaploPaithan : (LSB I think?) LSB : Fishball deconduo : BC aidnai : BC? Fishball: 3 BC: 3-4 LSB: 4-5 I think Now I'm counting these out again. That's what decon said he thought it came to... LSB: 5 BC: 5-6 FB: 3 Now let me guess, both BC and FB were not going to get shot no matter how those votes went? Seems pretty obvious now in hindsight. And also, looking back on the 40-45 pages, haplo, deconduo and pig all call me town and call BC mafia. Take that as you will, but as I see it, maybe this plan was really forming after only zeks died night 2. That's pretty awesome. I can post them if people would like. And I'm not going to use real life as an excuse. There was time when I could have gotten on and did some soul-searching in this thread, but I decided not to. I started writing my visit to Eiii, but it appears more pressing matters are at hand. I'm assuming Amber RB'd me by the way, which is unfortunate, because then I could point out for certain whether Pig or BC is CPR. Good luck kita, it's your decision DONT LET THAT BC DUDE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. FIGHT THE POWER. | ||
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-tman Along the nside border of Philedelphia, a child spawned and grew up. He spent a majority of his life on the public entertainment facility. He led a somber life that one might consider chill. He was playing basketball when a few evil-looking fellows proceeded to perform some misdemeanors. Bum skirmished with said thugs and his mother fret, so he vacated the premises to Eiii's crib. Bum was gonna check this out right quick. In and out. He saw the Vowel abuser's abode unobtrusively open for altercations. He saw a mail carrier walking up the steps, so Bum snuck up behind him and grabbed a letter and waited below the stairs, while the postman was none-the-wiser. Mr. Psotman, being a jovial fellow, rang the bell, and the door started to open. "Good evening sir! I thought I'd hand you your mail...." Bum peaked up and saw the mailman was frozen with that grin wiped off his face. "Here, take your mail." Before that nut decided he would go postal, Bum ran up the stairs. "Oh, you dropped a letter..." Bum can't really explain what happened, and neither can I. You know the phrase 'dead-pan'? Well Eiii was more of a murdered-pot. There was literally no emotion in that face. In fact, you couldn't stare directly at it, because your stare would glance off it on to something else, like some subconcious reaction that feared you would get sucked into the abyss of that man's face. "Uh, your Eiii?" "Yes, my name is Eiii." "Well uh here is a letter." The mailman was already halfway down the block. Eiii didn't answer. Maybe he fell asleep. Bum couldn't tell. He just stared at other stuff, everything but Eiii. Suddenly, "Goodbye." And Eiii shut the door. Bum still had the letter in his hand, so he just dropped it on the mat. Bum peaked into the window, and saw that Godforsaken thing sitting on a chair watching TV. The TV was off of course. He was just sitting there being useless. Existing. It seemed pretty clear to Bum that this guy did not have a role. He'd a make great SK though. Then Bum drove past BC's house and knocked over his mailbox. | ||
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On January 20 2011 08:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote: My only response to you is going to be bolding your miscount where you directly lie. With that your fate as lying mafia gets sealed. Honestly, do you guys not read your own posts? I bolded the votes above where Bum counts aidnai's vote twice, misrepresents that amber voted both for myself and fishball. making the counts actually Fishball: 2-3 BC: 3 - 5 LSB: 4 - 5. LSB is still ahead overall in numbers as at a minimum more people wanted him dead. Now, for the rest who are interested in massive lies by him, read his last bit where he is "conveniently" roleblocked when the plan for amber was to block halpo and kita shoot bum. Amber didn't disagree with this plan he merely added that cube should pick pig over decon due to pigs role. This seems to me at least he was on board with it, as rather than fix it, he would have criticized it. Meaning if he followed the plan, bum again lies. Bum has been caught lying all game, he is lying now. Halpo promised to be back hours ago with a post to defend himself, and no show, and here we have bum trying to bus his entire team. This to me means he is trying his best to save his own ass. Which red at this point has to survive the longest for the mafia to win? the cpr doctor. He just gave himself up guys, do the right thing. Oh, I did count Aidnai twice. My bad. Doesn't matter as you were never going to get hit anyway. Didn't you tell amber to RB me? I was to busy NOT FOLLOWING YOUR PLAN. I got Roleblocked, plain and simple. I never lied intentionally this entire game. I just make mistakes counting abstract votes that never really mattered. I think kita plans on shooting you anyway, which is good. But I'm still convinced Pig is the CPR. The fact that you assume I am the CPR in your theory is so shortsighted, that it's fairly clear what your agenda is. How is it 100% certain that I am CPR? Because you already know who it is, and for this to work, I have to die first, and then you get lynched, viola CPR is alive. Am I right BC? I mean, you weren't roleblocked this night and it went off? Pig was roleblocked night 2 and only zeks died? Maybe I'm misinterpreting how you positioned everything. And I said LSB's list was a good guideline I didn't pick RC because LSB told me to. Funny how you make that one of my main flaws. And now you are getting desperate because either:1) Pig gets hit, and you lost any chance of winning 2) You get hit, and pop PoD and we lynch Pig then Your room for accusing me of lying and then making my choice to take Role Cop is closed off now | ||
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On January 20 2011 08:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You can say you proved decon was anti town bum, but my post proved he was mafia. However, your post merely played off of this anyway Guess what, jimbo posted first, and in that post he analyzed decon and found him anti town. Guess what your post did, helped narrow down who had the CC, not an antitown your post helped find our CC. Good job though bum. Keep in mind that you can try your best to take credit for things, but anyone who wants to read can see decon was getting votes, lsb pinned him on CC, and had detailed analysis on him before you even appeared. Stop lying and die already. Well Jimbo has been a better townie then I have, I did give him credit for this. But deconduo could have argued against that case. I bet he had an argument written up, but I caused him to claim SK. Looking at that now, I guess he kinda had to claim SK as mafia. All you did BC with that post is give a different reason why we were going to lynch somebody we were already going to lynch. I like what you did for the day 2 lynch though, very inspiring. | ||
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On January 20 2011 07:47 bumatlarge wrote: WHY BC? WHY WHY WHY? There is absolutely NO REASON for this as scum. Kill him kita, FOR THE CHILDREN | ||
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On January 20 2011 08:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: No, no it isnt. You specifically said you weren't going to follow it and did, factor in we know either you or halpo has parity, factor in we have pig not only claim red but pod. Decon is CC, bam we have 3 mafia roles on 4 players. As halpo was the one on the slate to be roleblocked (why would amber rb you if you were supposed to be vigi'd) and we have our cpr. It's a draft list, I specifically say I am not going to follow a list I call a good guideline. If LSB tells you to jump off a bridge because candy is at the bottom, and you say, no, I'm going to jump off the bridge because I'm unhappy, I'm not going to shout at your mutilated dead body and shout "LOL NO CANDY Y U JUMP?" This is not something you FoS for. Next topic. [/Quote] Funny how you bring me up for a lynch target. I am town, I have found your entire team, pinned you each to your roles, and you bring up a lynch? I expect to get shot either by your team or sk. If kita shoots me again he guarentee's town loss which is what you, halpo, pig, and decon have been aiming for all game. Who in this game has pushed the hardest for me to die? You, Pig, Halpo, Decon, Aidnai, Fishball. Fishball flipped red traitor Aidnai has said he believes i am town now pig has claimed mafia Decon is Mafia Halpo linked you and he as only legit townies this game (yet doesn't try to check you to prove that?) Links to red by many people, you just bussed him You claim halpo is red and are red on more than 1 person's list. Wow, 5 of 6 red players have been accusing me for ages. Yes, I am obviously red, that is why my team has been busing me all game.[/quote] YES IT IS THATS WHAT IVE BEEEN SAYING SFHFHFFDFHD YOU ONLY NEED CPR TO LIVE TO WIN. FOR FUCK, AND ALL OF HIS FELLOW CUSS WORDS SAKE. [/quote] Now to catch you again. You mention pig was rb'd night 2 and only zeks died? Guess what Kita shot at me and was rb'd jimbo took a hit kita took a hit zeks died 4 hits. Voila, you again try to pin cpr on me, but all the hits were accounted 4. You try to change lie into mistake, however, purposeful misrepresentation of facts are indeed lies. I feel bad for you bum, you guys tried to play this game the same way as every other red team in recent games, idle by and do dick all and let town off itself. You must not have expected to have to deal with someone capable of analyzing you and calling you out, let alone someone who could defend theirself while revealing your lies in the process.[/QUOTE] I'd advise everyone to read this over with a straight face. Do it I dare you. | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:00 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your going to try that wifom nonsense? It builds credibility for you side. Decon shoots you, gets painted as sk and lives longer than he should since town will "force him" to help them. Mafia know sk is still alive and with the cpr doctor dead will spend more time offing townies than mafia. Its a clever ploy that could have worked really if you knew how to execute it. Well, to give you some love, that idea sounds neat, but i don't think I understood what you just said? | ||
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Kenpachi - fat and lazy kitaman27 - SHOOT BC Barundar - whatever Jackal58 - blah Fishball - Barnold Amber[Light] - RBs PIG night 2? NO KILL RBS ME NIGHT 3 LOOK 2 KILLS! AND A BLOCK CubEdIn - lol RB medic LayOffRage - HAHAHAHA bumatlarge - "obv CPR" HaploPaithan - Pansy cop, inferior Role cop Eiii - As himself BloodyC0bbler - PoD or CPR, It can be either. zeks - he picked mason as scum? wat? Misder - I have no idea what this guy even is aidnai - Mr caterpillar needs to help me against BC JimboSilvers - Im sorry I called you jumbo, the IPAD made it change GGQ - WUT Beneather - WUT Pigsquirrel - PoD or CPR, either is plausible Divinek - HAHAHA DIVINE LSB - This guy | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: you really are. Also for someone who knows only the cpr is required to win, why was I the first to really point that out? Why am I the only one analyzing people all game. Why is it that you only contribute when called out, why do you actively lie, why do you actively misinterpret facts, why for someone with all your experience (played as long as I have) are you making so many rookie mistakes? Seriously dude, sit down and see how the shots come out. Both your mafia team and my town team need massive luck to win. All these posts are doing now is trying to convince the sk which route he will take for his easiest win. I DO NOT ACTIVELY LIE. Each time is a genuine mistake, why can't you understand! I just need town to win. Are you an SK? oooh let me check my neat little rolecheck. As soon as I get it from Ace. | ||
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... then who was phone? + Show Spoiler + The real CPR is hiding, 50% on pig, but it could be someone else... since I'm going to die anyway, it would be better for town to figure it out. BC cares not to get hit, because then kita can lynch his SKness. Pretty slick BC, but my sacrifice for town will not be in ![[image loading]](http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/19100/19137/vane_19137_lg.gif) | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: rofl, now your pinning me on sk? not just red, now sk? Awesome, flip flop more. IF i was sk, I'd never made a plan to rape you guys, why? I could off you at night myself. Keep you thinking you won and just own you. Sorry dude, but now your just running out of steam of things to say. If your down to being this desperate just give it up. Woah touchy spot. K ill back off, you are just regular CPR mafia with 2kp. I mean, it could be someone else besides you mr SK. You wouldn't think Jimbo is the SK would you? Misder? Nah. | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Touchy? Shows your desperation. Can't convince people I'm red now your trying to co nvince them I'm sk? dude make up your mind. Seriously if you think I'm sk now, yet didnt tell kita to not waste his hit. You so smart Im obviously not convincing many people if you are still alive. I mean kita did already try to kill you. So maybe he thinks something but I don't really understand your abrasiveness in this department. In all the other points I say you are red, you attempt to refute it with reasons why you are not. Perhaps you are not red, as there are some flaws in my argument. But when I say you are SK, you say, "I am not SK" and that's it. Tell us why you are not SK? | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: My play already dictates why I'm not, and my actions speak for themselves. Kita shooting me? wouldn't care. Why would I give the town the entire red list as SK? I need them to flounder a little bit and spend time looking for you and not me. I wouldn't stick my neck out quite as far as I am, as that would get me noticed and potentially offed (like your trying to do now, as kita has tried). Should I continue? The absurdness of your claim at this point is why I don't bother to defend it. You should have attempted this a game day earlier, maybe then you could have pulled it off. So you already won as SK you are saying? It's WIFOM to say you are? Well I can afford a little WIFOM. | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:48 kitaman27 wrote: LOL sorry guys, you're both town. I'm scum. GG. ... really? Then maybe you should shoot pig, as BC is an SK, and we should save our lynch for him. | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:53 JimboSilvers wrote: Its obvious bumatlarge is trolling the thread. Just ignore him, keke? The discussion of SK is a legitimate discussion. Please do not derail the thread. | ||
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On January 20 2011 09:55 Beneather wrote: Sure thing, but why would kita say that both BC and bumatlarge are both town he could've confessed with just saying that hes scum and the confusion why would he want to take away confusion is that what Mafia want to do to the town? I still think BC or bumatlarge may be mafia. It's really suspicious why kita would just blurt out that. hmmmmmmmmm? I believe he is flaunting the fact that we can not stop who he kills. Perhaps his arrogance will be the death of him? In fact, kita will most likely be confirmed on whether or not he is the SK depending on if he dies tonight. | ||
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On January 20 2011 10:01 kitaman27 wrote: It was an elaborate ruse to draw you into posting. Success! How come I claim scum and bum gets the credit for trolling the thread Because you shot pig? Regardless of whether BC or myself is scum, you have to kill the CPR. BC and I can WIFOM all day, but Pig has to be shot now. OK? | ||
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That is ok, but you have to be wary if you are the SK! The mafia will do everything to lynch you, so you have to claim to town and lynch and kill scum. Town at this point will gladly accept, as they will look at this post and say "This is what Bum wanted" Would you do that for me kita? | ||
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Oh wait, you did that 14 times. | ||
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Decon: CPR Bum: RC Haplo: PC zeks: mason Pig: PoD I thought with LSB's list we could really maneuver stuff around, but my team picked every standard role in the game... So I went and switched me to CPR and decon to CC. I didn't give it to anyone else if they had plans with their picks. If I had a whole day with my scum buddies (who were actually a really smart crew), I think we would have had a much more solid game plan. Anyways, Day1 initiates and viola a traitor is here! LoR does us the kindness of revealing this, so I say free lynch. I kinda would have done this anyway as town, so I didn't epect much FoS and I didn't get any. Fishball catches my eye immediately, as I think BC said, as traitor you start analyzing all these different schemes without focusing on something concrete (probably butchered that?). Night 1 was a fucking miracle. 6 deaths and the one mafia among them is getting saved by a townie witch. Miracle. By the way divine EAT IT YOU CANT HIDE FROM ME HAHAHAHA Now I just afk for like 2 days which BC was spot on again. Day 2 I just post some general insults to town keeping my vote on deconduo. I figure we can both look like opposite factions from this, and a lovely dayvig on LSB makes everything lovely. And a no lynch to top it off. I take a nap. Night 2 comes along, and we might as well snipe some roles! Oh wait, kita gets protected, fucking cube. And jimbo doesnt die hmmm. And zeks gets shot. Ok OK, we can recover, zeks isn't really conneted to any of us. Of course my IRC thing expires and I cant figure out how to get on, so I think of the brilliant plan to claim RC (which I didn't really see the FoS behind picking that, I mean if I say one thing and do another, and then claim it before anyone figures it out, that should only hinder mafia in knowing what I am whatever). Except I choose the exact wrong candidate in every shape and form. Eiii. Just because I probably know his role and know he won't argue with me DOESN'T MEAN I SHOULD USE IT. I called him vanilla which was FHDISJK. I proceeded to screw over haplo and myself singlehandedly with this gift to town. As every other role above us was claimed and a lot were relatively safe to assume were confirmed. Blahblah rest of the days I thought we would all die, but I fail to figure ot jimbo is SK til 2nd time I hit him, and we were not getting shot to hell just yet. But I definetly thought that jimbo should win as SK, so I started chatting away with BC about a bunch of stuff that never made sense in the first place. To defend BM and chez, doing that is quite fun, but only if it has a purpose. So to haplo, I am sorry man you are mafia MVP! :D and a better player then me lolTo BC, fantastic town play man! Hope you didn't take too much of my stuff seriously, I was just sowing seed of love. (I mean kita did try to kill you twice LOL?) To jimbo, you my good sir deserve a... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://data.tumblr.com/v8Y1VvbEma2efk3vWvg3NmQm_400.gif) Your vet claim fucked me over, It did. I wasted 2 hits on you thinking you were town vet, when you were really an imbalanced politician. I look forward to playing in PYP4 again. But then you might have to deal with my insane townie powers! | ||
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On January 23 2011 07:31 Fishball wrote: This is what I said earlier in the game after someone claimed BP, and JimboSilvers took a hit I didn't think you would buy what he said... You are very right. I had my train of thoughts mixed up there. It was like 3 am when I made that post There was actually a 3rd role I was considering, which is just "Vigilante". I didn't want to take Day Vigilante, kill BC, and sit on my ass for the rest of the game while taking criticism for sure regardless of what BC flips. So I considered taking Vigilante and just do my own thing, or take Traitor. Vigilante is what I actually meant when I said that my draft pick was too low to obtain. I think I missed it then, because the first time I heard your PM concerning jimbo was when you were a day old bodybag and I had already sent in the hit for him. And a lot of people were posting legit claims, so I kinda bought jimbo's as a non-mafia. Should have added the numbers. | ||
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