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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 13 2010 14:13 GMT
#12
/in

ive always wanted to play in pyp
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 23 2010 15:07 GMT
#57
you guys not gonna be on the internet next year? Oo
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 06 2011 23:55 GMT
#205
/confirm
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 07 2011 00:49 GMT
#209
On January 07 2011 09:08 LSB wrote:
Why we need the plan? Would happen with everyone picking what they want?
For starters:

There's going to be a few townies that get the role they want. Maybe there's going to be a Bullet Bill, and a JOAT.

There's going to be a whole bunch of townies that tried to pick the Bullet Bill and the Joat, but didn't get it so they just ended up green.

There's going to be a whole bunch of roles that are important left untouched because no townie decided to pick it.

It's going to be easy for mafia to pick up the roles they want. Just get a high draft number and start stealing.


You act like it will be so easy for mafia to get high draft numbers. Doing it this way allows them to downplay their draft numbers, giving them more comfort during the draft for roles that could be beneficial for them or detrimental for the town to lose.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 07 2011 13:44 GMT
#233
I'm not comfortable playing a game where we anticipate that the mafia team is retarded. I'm not going to support this plan at all. There is too much risk involved with this plan. It can easily be picked apart by mafia since infiltration is way too easy, regardless of how much you want to downplay the likeliness of that scenario.

I really feel that you're playing this game assuming that the mafia players will just sit back, put their feet up, and say "well LSB said we should do this so playing along is definitely a good idea since it won't make us look scummy, even though his plan was created prior to the start of the game."
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 08 2011 20:36 GMT
#284
Just noting I did pick a random number, and everyone should do the same. Though I don't believe the role selection process (post-draft) should be unveiled to the entire town.

More importantly: Play the role you get. If you pout because you got townie and don't participate I will personally make your mafia-playing life a living hell and accuse you EVERY game in the future just because I like to be frustrating. It's actually more important for the town to fool the mafia and pick roles to limit their KP per night. Of course we cant discuss how this should go about because there are more roles in this game than players, so it would be too easy. The goal of this process should be to make the mafia as vanilla as possible, not to ensure every player gets a role they want.

GL in the draft...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 09 2011 02:44 GMT
#298
[11][2]

Greedy Greedy
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#358
On January 10 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 11:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:
[11][2]

Greedy Greedy


Could you reconfirm those numbers Amber?

Also, you state you intend to RNG your numbers yet you end up with a "greedy" selection. Was that just a coincidence or did you decide to change your selection method?


Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 02:14 deconduo wrote:
I've got a bit of a family emergency, so my posting will be less frequent for the next 2-3 days.

For role picking, I am going to random between CPR/JOAT/Vig/Vet/BP, but not announce which one I got. I feel this is a safe way to get a power role but reduces the chance of being targetted by mafia. It also means they have to risk getting nothing if they want to pick one of those roles.


Suppose you RNG vig (or flat out pick it to deny town a power role). Then we have a top three clash, I wind up vanilla and a mafia ten spots down can anonymously pick up CPR and double their kp without us having any idea where it is. I don't think your decision is very pro-town.


I sent in 11/2

I actually picked 11 because I am 11 on the signup list.

I'm hoping this isn't a newb mafia tactic, because it's obvious there's some confusion. I would also hope Ace wouldn't make such a mistake. He's a little smarter than this, and probably would have said something immediately, even after I posted my numbers.

CubedIn is lying.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 09 2011 20:14 GMT
#362
sry for the early FoS Cubed
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 10 2011 13:32 GMT
#423
I think looking into the draft numbers might be a lost cause. Don't forget that it would be in the best interest of the mafia to follow the plan. This ensures that they receive a role. I wouldn't be surprised if the more unique combination (higher ups) are mafia, but to be honest that's good player strategy to achieve a unique combination that throws them up to the top. People who have double are _less_ likely to be mafia, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't put down the same numbers to alleviate some suspicion.

The draft process was too transparent, so infiltration by the mafia is highly likely.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 11 2011 13:20 GMT
#547
I think you should use your ability as a NK vs a saver ability. Think about the chances of you saving someone vs killing someone. Your ability has better usage for town KP when we want to snipe mafia members, or to ensure their death.

I don't think LoR should be lynched. It's obvious who should be lynched, as we don't have any conclusive evidence of their role choice or the choice of another players: Kenpachi & Barundar

He (Kenpachi) is playing scummy and defensive, which isn't all of a shock from his normal play. Chances are he probably is the copy cat. We have to weigh the possibilities that he's actually is the copy cat. Do we want him to have that power activated? I think since we've wasted time cornering the possible copy cat allowing him to obtain a usage for his role would be wasteful as he's going to be a sure-fire target for night 1, granted we accidentally list a power role today. Do we also want that power role in the hands of a mafia member?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 11 2011 13:20 GMT
#548
btw I think you should use.... I was referring to Deconduo

Sry
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 11 2011 15:00 GMT
#554
On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote layoffrage

Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target.



Lol that has to be the most garbage reasoning for lynching someone posted in this thread so far.

Isn't building your own credibility a scum move?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 11 2011 19:59 GMT
#576
LSB, who do you want to lynch if you want to wait until night to kill LOR?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#656
##vote: aidnai
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 13:35 GMT
#717
The last time I argued someone who accused me I accused them back, provided evidence, and then got killed, only to have the town barely think of that person as a suspect until LSB finally moved in to get the lynch done.

Do I think Aidnai is mafia? Meh probably

Did I think Aidnai was more suspicious than LayOffRage? Yah definitely

We are accusing people for telling the truth, meanwhile we have the biggest shady characters running the show right now.

Kenpachi I don't understand why you chose a role that you didn't understand. Aside from that the JOAT ability would have been a much cooler ability than some random roulette ability.

Note to the town: I should be protected tonight. The copycat will be able to take on a strong role tonight. Kenpachi SHOULD DIE tonight. Deconduo I think it would be a good idea to CPR him. Copycat is a strong ability in the hands of the mafia. Roleblocking is an even stronger ability in the hands of the mafia... just saying...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 13:38 GMT
#718
On January 12 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote:
Yea. im not CC or JOAT


WTF is this?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 13:39 GMT
#719
On January 12 2011 14:02 Kenpachi wrote:
OH NO I REREAD COPYCAT AND IF I DIE FIRST, THATS NOT GOOD FOR TOWN :<


Thanks for lying. We lynched a vanilla and we have a copycat running around who is clearly more than suspicious.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 14:21 GMT
#721
Harry Potter mafia.

And look at the above quote of Kenpachi, and the quote directly following it in my post. That's what I'm referring to w/ the lying.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#726
On January 12 2011 23:39 Barundar wrote:
We are getting side tracked, but you where wrong on your last accusation regarding deconduo in HPmafia before we killed you off

On Kenpachi, your guess is as good as mine.


Shockeyy, not Dec.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#736
On January 13 2011 03:44 Pigsquirrel wrote:
We need to unleash the deconduo on somebody period, just to have him prove he really is CPR doc. It's too risky to have an unidentified KP running around.


Just because he uses the ability doesn't confirm any alignment...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#739
Don't we already know this information? It seems wasteful to check you off the list of people who listened to LSB. We're so hooked on finding the traitor, seems counter productive.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 04:34 GMT
#770
Guessing Divinek hid behind someone who got hit?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 04:36 GMT
#772
Now does the CC get to pick an ability, or does the CC just receive Day Vig?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 13:23 GMT
#819
On January 13 2011 14:57 Kenpachi wrote:
oh and GodFather was important because
1. No Mafia can fake their role
2. I wanted to steal it from Mafia
3. I usually get lynched.. but owell.


So for someone who gets a track record of being lynched first you thought it was a good idea to take the Godfather? A role that the copy cat could have gotten?

I applaud you keeping it quiet until a power role was taken out. Now on to LSB who should have reported that he did not receive his role...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 13:24 GMT
#820
On January 13 2011 16:48 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 16:15 Eiii wrote:
Sorry, it's kind of hard to get a word in edgewise around here and most of the activity happens while I'm busy during the day :X

And, as was said at the time, your analysis was mostly ignored because it just looked like you were trying to save your own ass.


Actually I was out of the hotseat already, Fishball thought it looked bad because of the timing, not because I was already a target.

And you still didn't say anything, not a single opinion about haplo voting deconduo, or kenpachi being godfather, or the night kills, or me wanting more pressure on amber, or the other lurkers... surely if you read the thread enough to immediately notice me calling you out, you will have an opinion about something?

Before I go to bed, and just to put my vote where my mouth is,
##Vote: amber[light]


Keep voting for me. This strategy is obviously working well.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 13:26 GMT
#821
Also for my above post I read page 41 AFTER I posted.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 18:13 GMT
#864
On January 14 2011 03:06 Eiii wrote:
Is no one else really worried about the fact that either CPR/JOAT is completely unaccounted for? :X If we have one non-SK non-mafia hit, then CPR is probably out there in someone else's hands, and for all we know JOAT is out there doing whatever.


Whats worse is they are probably in the hands of a mafia member since no one has come forward with their poor scum-telling abilities.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 19:02 GMT
#876
On January 14 2011 03:21 CubEdIn wrote:
Mno, I think Kenpachi might be Traitor.

If not him then Kita.
But he did claim GF so in order to clear him we would need both Role and Alignment check on him.

It's pretty obvious that we have at least 1 mafia and 1 traitor in top 8. Do you have any better ideas?

The simple fact that Mafia didn't care and chose to take out Jackal is scary though. They just might have 3 KP or so.


We could just role block & check him, but that's going to be a very calculated task and risky.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 20:25 GMT
#893
If Deconduo is the copycat, why would he kill someone he believes to be a townie (based upon the information Jackal provided) if he could pick up the dead players role. There seem to be a bunch of players that he could have chosen to possibly get a role, but to kill someone who has been more-or-less identified as a townie knowing that they will gain a power role by the beginning of the day seems a little off.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 23:31 GMT
#907
I'm comfortable taking out BC. I have feared he was playing rather shady this game, and he probably should have died night 1, at least if I were mafia (or even SK) I would have targeted him first.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 01:06 GMT
#917
On January 14 2011 10:04 CubEdIn wrote:
I claimed because people were looking for traitor. I just picked the role in LSBs plan.
Then I realized it's crappy.

I wanted to 'protect' aidnai but I figured if he's telling the truth then:
a) i could roleblock him and that would blow
b) i could die

So I then went on looking for others. My next thought was LSB and post something like "if i belly-up tonight, then LSB is prolly red". But I didn't wanna die so fast.

So in the end I decided to cower my way out and protect nobody.
But now I'm fine either way.

I suggest that I:
a) Protect LSB/BC/etc, see if I die
b) Protect deconduo in hope of roleblock (in case he's anti-town, we'll see what pops up)
c) Protect someone of my choice, let you know 30 mins before daytime, see what happens.

Problem is, daytime is about 5am my time, so that last one is crappy for my real life.




Out of curiosity what would happen if you protected the SK? Would you know what should have happened?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 01:07 GMT
#918
On January 14 2011 09:35 kitaman27 wrote:
@aidnai, Alignment cop doesn't exist. It was replaced by Parity Cop which doesn't give a night one result

@Amber, I feel you haven't really addressed your role blocking ability. Could you confirm that you selected it and tell us who you blocked night one?

@Cube, If you are the medic then why did you claim? Also, who did you protect night one?

@Deconduo, I agree that your day vig ability should be used today, rather than waiting. Its in your best interest to target a scum. If you want my opinion, I would say Kenpachi since we are probably missing a joat.

@BC, Could you explain how you intended to play as a town godfather or was it selected solely as an honesty check?



I've actually never confirmed or denied that I took Role Blocker. LSB was the one who said I was confirmed.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 01:09 GMT
#919
*correction I actually claimed overnight that I should be protected to avoid allowing the CC to take my role, so I technically did roleclaim, my bad.

I blocked who I was supposed to block for that night: Kenpachi
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 02:59 GMT
#934
On January 14 2011 10:26 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 10:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
*correction I actually claimed overnight that I should be protected to avoid allowing the CC to take my role, so I technically did roleclaim, my bad.

I blocked who I was supposed to block for that night: Kenpachi

Yea Amber is a roleblocker as i can confirm this


I can't believe the town is actually letting this pass as non-scum play
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 03:45 GMT
#936
On January 14 2011 11:59 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 10:26 Kenpachi wrote:
On January 14 2011 10:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
*correction I actually claimed overnight that I should be protected to avoid allowing the CC to take my role, so I technically did roleclaim, my bad.

I blocked who I was supposed to block for that night: Kenpachi

Yea Amber is a roleblocker as i can confirm this


I can't believe the town is actually letting this pass as non-scum play


IGNORE THIS
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 18:17 GMT
#958
On January 15 2011 03:05 HaploPaithan wrote:
LSB, Fishball being a traitor has nothing to do with you being scum/SK. Its extremely stupid to lynch you just because Fishball is a townie or to not lynch you just because Fishball was a traitor.
We will very likely be lynching Fishball soon. You aren't making yourself look any better by making such a stupid offer.


Why would scum want to find and eliminate the traitor?

I voted Fishball
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 19:13 GMT
#964
On January 15 2011 03:23 HaploPaithan wrote:
If LSB is an SK then he doesn't care about traitor.
If LSB is scum, well they don't have much use for the traitor if he is likely to die soon anyways. Lets face it, Fishball is likely to die in the next day or 2, I was actually under the impression that Kita was going to shoot him tonight, so hunting down the traitor doesn't really hurt scum too much at this point.
LSB is trying to get the town off of him and focused on the traitor again. Then after Fishball dies and turns up as traitor(most likely) town forgets they were investigating LSB.


TBH BC isn't going to let LSB live if Fishball doesn't flip traitor, and I wouldn't either.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 14 2011 23:48 GMT
#983
##vote: Fishball

so i dont get modkilled
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 00:22 GMT
#1010
wtf i didn't think this would happen...
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 01:42 GMT
#1063
##vote: Bloddyc0bbler

Throwaway vote :/
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 21:18 GMT
#1156
Missing a lynch is actually better than we could have hoped for. Think about it. We had to confirm someone was a certain role by using an ability, and we replaced the lynching with that power. I really don't think we had a strong lynch candidate. Keeping Fishball alive even if he's the traitor does not give mafia anything beneficial.

If mafia wants to convert Fishball he must be targeted by mafia (peace out mafia night KP).
If SK wants to shoot Fishball, then that's fine. We can use this to once again confirm Deconduo is a serial killer, and not mafia.
Or I could roleblock Fishball so if mafia was intending on converting he would just die instead (wasteful).

We need to keep the players we have alive around until we obtain additional information. Also to the doctors, please be smart about protection. There are certain roles we need to keep around, but roles don't equate alignment. Think about who you want to see around for future days, not who's role is most important.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 23:02 GMT
#1160
Even if I did... who would you hit?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 15 2011 23:38 GMT
#1162
I can't do that, but I have an insurance policy to make sure that things work out as they should.

I think Dec should kill Fishball. From there we should work on the people who are slipping by without contributing much. They know who they are..
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#1164
On January 16 2011 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 08:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I can't do that, but I have an insurance policy to make sure that things work out as they should.


Could you explain? I can't seem to think of the insurance policy you are referring to off the top of my head. If you don't want to tip off your target before the deadline, would it be possible to post between the deadline and night post?

I'm worried about the type of situation that could arise if I get killed, my hit doesn't go through, and I'm not alive to state whether or not I was role blocked.


I am not role blocking you, if that's what you're asking.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 01:03 GMT
#1167
On January 16 2011 09:48 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 08:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I can't do that, but I have an insurance policy to make sure that things work out as they should.

I think Dec should kill Fishball. From there we should work on the people who are slipping by without contributing much. They know who they are..


If you are pretty sure that fishball is the traitor and that it is worth it to switch to him, then sure. Bum seems to have come around a bit so maybe I was wrong about him.


I think taking out a mafia member should be more prioritized vs. taking out a potential traitor.

IMO Kenpachi should be your target. I still don't trust him.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 14:02 GMT
#1208
I was the person who was connected to Zeks. I had no idea that he was mafia, but I couldn't really trust him. Here is every correspondence between us throughout the game.

Also note I role blocked pigsquirrel, and he can confirm that.

Note I sent him a few extra PM's that were not included in this. I will fish them out and they will be posted below this PM chain...

Original Message From zeks:
By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action

Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo)
bumatlarge - Role Cop
Eiii - Parity Cop

assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop

but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1

and maybe a JOAT that got picked up.

Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum

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Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Yes.

but I'm afraid that the mafia team has two key red roles (read page 16). I'm not as worried about Fishball right now. We can lynch him whenever.

Original Message From zeks:
I think the medic(s) will probably protect you or kita

Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.

Would roleblocking a traitor stop him from being recruited? If so then I'd suggest Fishball

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
don't claim me until the day. I'll tell you who I'm roleblocking in case I die. Medics _SHOULD_ protect me tonight, but don't publicize that.

Original Message From zeks:
In danger now of lurking....I'm going to claim myself

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Ace does notify the role blocked players, just an FYI.

If Fishball flips traitor I would be willing to accept that LSB is protown. BC should then die. I really don't trust BC at all.

If Fishball flips anything else then Kenpachi and LSB should be looked at. They conspired to get the roles they wanted somehow. I think LSB might be the CPR since there was no other claim afaik. Deconduo might be in on this circle too.

Original Message From zeks:
you might want to reconfirm with Ace on this one

I don't know what hte policy is on roleblocking but usually I dont think the host tells the name of the roleblocker to the roleblocked person...



Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
On January 14 2011 10:26 Kenpachi wrote:
On January 14 2011 10:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
*correction I actually claimed overnight that I should be protected to avoid allowing the CC to take my role, so I technically did roleclaim, my bad.

I blocked who I was supposed to block for that night: Kenpachi

Yea Amber is a roleblocker as i can confirm this



WTF does this make any sense to you?

Original Message From zeks:
okay i wont claim then.

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
They aren't suspecting me of being a traitor. They know I'm the role blocker. If they start pressuring me then it's definitely a good idea. The problem is once you claim there will be more for mafia to work with. Best to just hang on to this in case we need to trap a player in a lie if they target you for something.

[quote]
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 16:08 GMT
#1211
On January 17 2011 00:18 bumatlarge wrote:
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On January 16 2011 23:02 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I was the person who was connected to Zeks. I had no idea that he was mafia, but I couldn't really trust him. Here is every correspondence between us throughout the game.

Also note I role blocked pigsquirrel, and he can confirm that.

Note I sent him a few extra PM's that were not included in this. I will fish them out and they will be posted below this PM chain...

Original Message From zeks:
By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action

Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo)
bumatlarge - Role Cop
Eiii - Parity Cop

assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop

but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1

and maybe a JOAT that got picked up.

Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Yes.

but I'm afraid that the mafia team has two key red roles (read page 16). I'm not as worried about Fishball right now. We can lynch him whenever.

Original Message From zeks:
I think the medic(s) will probably protect you or kita

Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.

Would roleblocking a traitor stop him from being recruited? If so then I'd suggest Fishball

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
don't claim me until the day. I'll tell you who I'm roleblocking in case I die. Medics _SHOULD_ protect me tonight, but don't publicize that.

Original Message From zeks:
In danger now of lurking....I'm going to claim myself

Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
Ace does notify the role blocked players, just an FYI.

If Fishball flips traitor I would be willing to accept that LSB is protown. BC should then die. I really don't trust BC at all.

If Fishball flips anything else then Kenpachi and LSB should be looked at. They conspired to get the roles they wanted somehow. I think LSB might be the CPR since there was no other claim afaik. Deconduo might be in on this circle too.

Original Message From zeks:
you might want to reconfirm with Ace on this one

I don't know what hte policy is on roleblocking but usually I dont think the host tells the name of the roleblocker to the roleblocked person...



Original Message From Amber[LighT]:
[quote]


WTF does this make any sense to you?

[quote]


Oooooh more juicy tidbits. This may confirm amber, but there is also a chance one of zeks partners died night 1. I don't think a mason partner dying reveals that. Plus, that whole conversation would have had to been arranged, so yeah I believe amber.

Apparently from scum, fishball is traitor. Good to know, thanks mafia!


If Zeks was mason then I must be pro-town, according to his role description.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 20:19 GMT
#1220
You don't need confirmation. I'm not lying and I'm confirmed as pro-town.

Kitaman was not roleblocked. I send this PM to zeks so he would know who I role blocked.

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im goign out so i wont be around and im drunk already ...

i role blocked pigsquirrel

Original Message From zeks:
By the page 16 list then you got these people with an action

Fishball - Medic (but he's likely traitor imo)
bumatlarge - Role Cop
Eiii - Parity Cop

assuming they had followed LSB's plan...afaik I think eiii said he was going to follow the plan and picked parity cop

but i don't think he has said a thing about his check night 1

and maybe a JOAT that got picked up.

Any of these would fish the traitor - well assuming the traitor wasn't already picked up by the scum

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"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#1224
On January 17 2011 05:47 bumatlarge wrote:
Amber, you are likely town, but not 100% town, because zeks could have been masoned to one of the dead players. I doubt mafia would kill that person, but it is one person they know is not SK. Just saying it's not certain. But it's not like we could role claim to you


I definitely don't want that much responsibility on my shoulders anyway.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 17 2011 04:44 GMT
#1279
On January 17 2011 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:
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On January 17 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote:
Jesus, it's like everyone glances through thread

"ANYTHING PERTAIN TO ME? REFUTE! OK GOODNIGHT."

I'd like to think fishball is town so that his zeks' list actually means something. But that would leave a traitor in these 4; Kenpachi, kitaman, Amber and cube. I will try to break these down right now so there is no confusion.

Kenpachi: Claimed GF
Proof - BC and LSB tried to grab GF also, LSB is dead SK vanilla. Bum Role checked.
- Chance of LSB lying is improbable, so GF is in the game. Both BC and bum would have to be lying. Ken has to be GF or these three are mafia
Not Traitor

kitaman27: Claimed Vig
Proof - None? Claimed RB from cube. This clears kita's story unless both cube and him are scum, but he is not proven Vig. You still get informed you get RB if you are vanilla AFAIK.
Possible Traitor

Amber[Light] Claimed RoleBlocker
Proof - Kenpachi confirmed he was roleblocked night 1? Unless Cube and amber are in cahoots, it's not something Amber would risk, and also amber was zeks mason. Don't think mason would ally with traitor. Pig also was RB'd night 2, hasn't said anything.
Not traitor Likely town

CubEdIn Claimed Doctor
Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it.
Not Traitor


Bum? I thought we had something special. I could have been your gender-confused batgirl!

This post seems very focused towards making me look bad. I admit I haven't been able to prove I'm vig, but think of it this way. The traitor does not want to eliminate other traitor suspects because that narrows down who could be the bad guy. I have been pushing fishball for two days now to get him lynched because I know I am not the traitor. Fishball has been ignoring the traitor hunt for the most part. I also took a hit last night. While that doesn't clear me, the scum clearly want me dead.

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Zeks said:
Although kita is pretty much our best way to win...even if he was SK.


Even the scum mason admits I'm the town's best way to win. He also brings up this SK accusation. Seems like a common scum theme.

Could you explain your reasoning for thinking fishball is town? You pass him up for discussion without giving a solid reason why.

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On January 17 2011 13:08 Fishball wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:19 Fishball wrote:
On January 17 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 11:48 Fishball wrote:
Truth - You did not list the possibility that you can be SK
Truth - You did not list the possibility that you might not be Vig.


Saying that I could be serial killer wouldn't make sense.

[*] Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. This role is nullified for the Serial Killer(s) since it may be too broken if they have it.


Maybe if you keep calling me SK enough times, it might come true! I didn't list the possibility that I might not be vig because I know I am vig. I'll give you that.
So am I the person you suspect to be traitor?

On January 17 2011 11:48 Fishball wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:18 Pigsquirrel wrote:
Referring back to a rather old topic, but more relevant now that Fish is being accused of traitor/scum.
Amber switched his vote off of Fish and threw away the lynch. If Fish gets lynched, major FoS at Amber for switching off of him.

Also, I've tried to do some analysis on BC but completely suck as this is my first game. He's said quite a few things that seem like slips and has been very disruptive and seems manipulative, like LSB. I still don't trust him.

##vote BloodyC0bbler


Confirm you were role blocked last night?

lol @ bum. How dare you use your story telling abilities to prevent me from wanting to hit you. :p

Another lol @ fish for going back to calling my a SK.


You think you can just laugh it off, again?

I've also said this once to LSB. I don't care if you are Mafia/SK/Town/Bystander that is not playing the game, you cannot deny this.

It's almost like me saying, "lol @ kitaman27 for going back to calling me a Traitor".


Hmm, that seems vaguely familiar. Oh right!

On January 11 2011 07:57 Fishball wrote:
On January 11 2011 07:26 LayOffRage wrote:
Fishball is the traitor.


Oh... I'm also many things... in bed...


When, did I accuse you of being the Traitor. WHEN? Show me. Even any subtle sign, I would like to see you quote me.
A bit subjective here aren't we? Now I'm really inclined to see you flip.

##Vote kitaman27


When did I accuse you of accusing me of being the Traitor. WHEN? This is getting silly -_-

I asked you who you thought the traitor was with a list of possible suspects.
You responded by saying that I left out the fact that I could not be the vig.
I responded by asking if that omission meant you thought I was the traitor.

Thanks for voting at least. I wish the result of the town would get around to voting unless they want a no-lynch like the day before.


You are full of shit. So you're saying I'm not accusing you of Traitor, yet you ask:
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On January 17 2011 12:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Maybe if you keep calling me SK enough times, it might come true! I didn't list the possibility that I might not be vig because I know I am vig. I'll give you that.
So am I the person you suspect to be traitor?

Then you proceed to "prove" that you can't be the Traitor and the SK at the same time.

Do you even make sense? Because I wasn't even talking about "who is the Traitor". I was talking about you.

The only comment I had regarding your list, was to point out the fact that you were hiding "certain" possibilities, something that you shouldn't do if you want to make your post convincing. I even said
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On January 17 2011 09:41 Fishball wrote:
Exactly, I don't need you to change your mind. I'm not going to bother, how hard is it to understand?

and earlier,
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On January 17 2011 09:10 Fishball wrote:
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On January 17 2011 07:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Fishball, could you at least address the traitor situation? If you are not the traitor then surely you would like yourself cleared.


Let me ask you, what is there for me to say? I've addressed the Traitor situation literally the entire game. It's proven no one gives a shit what I have to say.

It that doesn't tell you I'm not fucking talking about the Traitor, then I give up. To me, this is a huge slip up.


Wait, so do you think I'm the traitor? Based on this post it doesn't sound like it.

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On January 17 2011 12:19 Fishball wrote:
When, did I accuse you of being the Traitor. WHEN? Show me. Even any subtle sign, I would like to see you quote me.
A bit subjective here aren't we? Now I'm really inclined to see you flip.

##Vote kitaman27


So that probably means you think I'm scum. That means that you think the traitor is still in the top 8 and kenpachi, cube, or amber is the traitor? This isn't adding up. I have not slipped, you are getting desperate.

Town: Do you see what is happening here? Fishball is trying to make you guys turn on your town aligned kp. They already tried to kill me at night. Don't fall for this nonsense.


Just because you were "protected' does not mean you were actually targeted, nor does it prove that mafia attempted to target you, if anything.

I'm really suspicious of cubed AND kita right now. Cubed has put no effort into reading the thread or comprehending simple role concepts. It's so half-assed I can't make heads or tails of him and a bunch of the other players here.

Pigsquirrel is probably the Prince of Darkness. I'm banking on him following LSB's plan and if he did choose that role him and the janitor could be LETHAL (ie the game will end in the next few cycles) especially if they are both mafia aligned.

First things first. Pigsquirrel should come forward and start posting. You're very suspicious.

Next: If someone picked the Janitor role now's the time to come forward. That role is incredibly dangerous in the wrong hands. We need to know who has it, if anyone.

People who have not role claimed yet are under suspicion. After 70 pages of traitor hunting we have YET to come up with the traitor. The saddest part of all of this is some people are convinced that finding him is of the utmost importance. WE WILL LOSE IF WE CONTINUE THIS MANHUNT. We need to find scum not find a pro-town player that's could be converted. Jesus we know they are in the top 9 of the draft so start whittling away the list.

Deconduo is still under the lights right now. Something's not adding up and the town has been easily manipulated by some key players, and we're not even tracking his hits like we should be.

Bumatlarge & BC ... Both of you should have died by now. I'm assuming BC is actually mafia aligned because there's no way he should be alive, but we don't have the balls to lynch him. Even a half-competent mafia team would have taken him out night 1 if he was pro-town.

Kenpachi should be night killed. Derp he's the godfather and would probably like to be lynched...

If you sent in a night hit AND it does not match with the stories in this thread, please speak up. Silence will kill this town.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 17 2011 04:53 GMT
#1283
It feels like there's 8/5 scum remaining.

##vote: Fishball

He's not going to flip recruited mafia. This game is over for the town.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 17 2011 12:59 GMT
#1313
On January 17 2011 19:41 Ace wrote:
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On January 17 2011 17:25 aidnai wrote:
Actually, something that would be good to know:
Ace, if a paranoid medic protects a vigilante, but the medic is killed by mafia/SK KP the same night, will the vigilante be protected and roleblocked or not?



Yes. All actions always go through.


So if I role block cubed and cubed protects me, who gets role blocked?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 02:06 GMT
#1359
Well this was relieving, to say the least.

I can role block the SK, which I'm assuming will discount his kill I think. However doesn't BC believe that if FB flipped scum traitor that dec was actually mafia? If that's the case then I'm role blocking someone who has no power to block.

I think role blocking a lurker might be the best option. What do you guys think about the bulletproof claim-ee?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 04:07 GMT
#1367
Can you still activate your power?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 04:19 GMT
#1369
It would be a good idea for cubed to protect pig so he is unable to activate his ability since we're still unsure of his alignment.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 23:19 GMT
#1387
On January 19 2011 08:10 HaploPaithan wrote:
Yeah, I didn't really think of it like that. It was a dick move. I was mostly gunning for a useful role that was below me. I didn't really like Pardoner.
Coming out before I had 2 reveals is stupid. And I was pretty busy after that and felt like waiting on the offchance that Eiii would claim Parity as well.


Well we wouldn't want you to be dissatisfied with your role.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 19 2011 02:46 GMT
#1418
On January 19 2011 11:43 CubEdIn wrote:
Hey, GG, I wasn't gonna protect PoD anyway, since I was hoping for a hit on him. Blame the actual roleblocker. ^_^


Derp i cant role block the same person consecutively.

Once again you've failed to read the role list.

GG town.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#1648
Definitely was banking on Kenpachi activating his lynch ability.

GG town...

This was a clusterfuck of a game and I probably contributed more than I should have to that. I did end up following LSB's plan but I wanted to take attention away (didn't work). It was clever of the mafia team to swap my role block, but it was foolish of cubed to not follow BC's night 3 plan at all.
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