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Kenpachi
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Beneather
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 12 2011 14:07 Beneather wrote: Lool, Wait CC doesn't get Vanilla Townie I thought it was first death Proof that people tend to not read anything I say, or just everything in general. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
The CopyCat situation should be treated delicately, but we have to ask a few questions on this. - Why would Jackal lie? What would he gain as SK or mafia? What would he gain as townie? Well If he's lying, I would pin a high chance of him being the traitor we are looking for, but I think he'd rather claim CC as he knows LoR wasn't the traitor, but then again, he gets heavy scrutiny, which is kinda what the traitor wants, so I'll cross that out for now. As mafia or scum, he draws attention away from himself, which is EXACTLY what he wants, regardless of whether he did or did not get/pick CC. As town, if he wants to be a real hero, he will claim it, but it would be in good interests if he said he didn't get it as town. If he was lying, I would make an exception of LaL in this case. If he is town and he is CC, he should tell us to prevent unnecessary deaths of strong roles, and if he gets found out, we will kill him. So, there is a good chance he is not town-aligned. - If Jackal is telling the truth, what should we do? We should try to find the Copy Cat. If CopyCat is town and didn't follow the plan, he should claim and get a lot less FoS then if he was found out. We do have roles to find out obviously. Tracker could be used, but role cop has the most business up there, and should be checking who is most likely. I'd have to agree with the sentiments that CPR and Vig would not really want to steal that as scum/SK. Scum JOAT and BB however know they are denying town roles, so I suggest those two get role copped. As for traitor, it's confirmed in the Top 8, so Parity doesn't really want to be up there. Again Role Cop has even more use finding someone up there (Wow that role cop sure is a useful guy) Also, if no one brings up better candidates, I'd like to suggest people to protect based on roles and LSB's list and whether or not they followed it. deconduo Kenpachi kitaman27 Barundar bumatlarge Eiii zeks aidnai And then from based on what they have been posting, I'd highly suggest ME!.... Or whoever we agree not to hit with CPR  | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 12 2011 04:52 LSB wrote: About the Traitor I would like to talk about my experiences as a traitor in PYP2. The key thing I did was kept the town on the topic of the traitor and tried to waste the day lynches on the traitor. This worked, and it was a great way to waste lynches. Instead of wasting our day discussion talking about who is traitor or who is not, we should just focus on other things and work on the traitor at night. But the thing about the traitor was, once I was discovered, the Mafia Compulsive Vig also fell with me, since the Compulsive Vig hit me night 2 and did not kill me. We can use the traitor as a way to link in other roles and drag down mafia. This is an effective way to use our blues and also to confirm a lot of people up top. Two Key Facts about the traitor/copycat 1. The traitor/copycat is a role pick and has no other special powers- The Role Cop could be a great way to find the traitor and Copy Cat. In addition.the traitor won't be able to do what they normally want to do. We can then use this to verify a lot of the people on the list. Here's the Plan. Deconduo will shoot LayOffRage If LayOffRage is killed, deconduo is probably not the traitor. Kenpachi will shoot Amber[Light]. Amber[Light] will Roleblock Kenpachi. If Amber[Light] is the traitor, he won't have the Roleblock ability and will die Kitaman27 will be checked by the Bullet Bill. Kitaman27 should have a gun. If he doesn't he's the traitor. Barundar will be checked by the Rolecop. Insta vertification if Barundar is Copycat/Traitor Fishball will be Tracked. Since Fishball has a role, he should be visiting someone. Night 2, we then will check the remaining people Jackal58, CubEdIn and Kenpachi ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/vlioD.jpg) A short summary 2. The traitor if hit by a mafia member at night will be converted- The best way to verify our CPR doc and Vig is by having them kill the traitor for us. If they are unable to do it, it could be a way to confirm them. Once we found a traitor. It's Better for the town to use nightkills on it. By the way this is still applicable, and I think most parts should be carried out. I think CPR should hit Jackal, but thats just because I think there is a good chance he might be scum, and I wouldn't take CC in top 4 if I was town, mafia or SK. I'm reluctant to hit the top 4 since they are strong roles. We either need to agree on a solid candidate or not use it, which means we can't prove deconduo took that role this night, and then night 2 comes along and a lot of confusion can start to happen. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:44 Fishball wrote: Every time your name is brought up, you re-merge. Yes I like to use that word. 1. Everyone has their own schedule. I have a full time job too. I even got myself modkilled in Insane Mafia due to unforeseen circumstances. Time is one thing. But timing on the other hand... Every time your name is brought up, poof. 2. What question? You lost me here. 3. So are my accusations. So the accused is also accusing the accuser of being scummy. Nothing new here. If you have valid points, people will follow. That's all I have to say. 4. Woah, I think you're a bit ahead of yourself here. I never once said "I wanted to lynch aidnai". I only brought him up because he was part of a picture that I had see as abnormal, no matter how minor it is. It generates discussion, and this has already been proven. Unlike some dude who doesn't have "time" and "isn't here". 5. No original reasoning? I'm not going to repeat myself for the third time. Go re-read my posts in the thread. Look at zeks, ignoring my finger pointing. If you're truly innocent you wouldn't need to worry about my ever so soft accusations. All I'm doing is throwing little rocks into the lake; It causes ripples, but sometimes tsunami happens. 6. You may have a point regarding my pre-game comment. Just keep in mind I won't know which spot I would end up as until after the draft. If you still don't get it, I've also said it before, numerous times, pre-game and during the game, that Radfield's plan in PYP2 was more viable due to a certain degree of uncertainty for drafts. Hopefully you won't need me to spill it out. You also say my play gives the impression of not being town aligned; I have already admitted my play was unorthodox (This is a game after all, and for once, I would like to friggin enjoy it), but far from being scummy. I've already explained my motives, logic, and plan in detail, in my previous post. If you don't see any of that, even a little bit, as being "town aligned", and just counter attack me every time you see your name being brought up, I have nothing left to say. Let the Town decide. Really? Every single time, I reemerge right after? As far as I'm concerned, I answer when I can. I can't think of any instance that I posted right after my name was said. If I did, it was either during the weekend or the person and I were both up. 1. I don't understand where you see I come back when I'm accused. Irrelevent, but I was modkilled too that game the same day for the same reason. 2. + Show Spoiler + On January 11 2011 23:44 Fishball wrote: If that's not what you were referring to, what was it that made you think I was mafia? Again, it seems like youre accusing out of the blue. 3. I don't blame people for not reading my analysis on you- town was (too?) focused on confirming roles than actually scum hunting. 4. You brought your lynch target as a way of saying -look, i can't be traitor cause i was the first to say aidnai might be scum- when in reality, that's not the primary reason that aidnai is being targeted. That's what's suspicious. 5. + Show Spoiler + On January 08 2011 06:15 Fishball wrote: I'm pretty sure that you didn't have an original reasoning. Its the fact that you point fingers yet you don't tell why is whats bothering me. It's like you don't want to do analysis. It seems like you assume that town is smart enough to figure out whats going on in your mind and thats good enough. 6. I know you said that, but since no one proposed any other plan that deals with uncertainty (jimbo's did, but even then, you didn't even follow that? or at least support it), and you agreed that without a plan --> chaos which is bad for town in general, plan is the best option for town. And now, we have total confusion because of the uncertainty of who got what. Now we are too focused on confirming town roles. Really? You explained everything in detail? What about accusation on divinek? What about accusation on BC in the very beginning? What about why not having a plan for roles is better than having a plan, after LSB answered your concern? Maybe your right that I read over things and I should reread your posts (again and again), but I'd say that not everything is in detail at all. [QUOTE]On January 11 2011 14:23 Fishball wrote: Right now, I propose to lynch "LayOffRage" for three reasons. - Eliminates the possibility that he is Traitor himself crying wolf. - If he dies and flips Vanilla, the Copy Cat (alignment unknown) will not get any surprising powers. This also proves that there is indeed a Traitor among the top 8, and the Town should be aware. - Eliminates the chance of losing a power role for Town, unlike other lynch targets. This post is the only "plan you propose. And then this: [QUOTE]On January 12 2011 14:37 Fishball wrote: [QUOTE]On January 12 2011 14:07 Beneather wrote: Lool, Wait CC doesn't get Vanilla Townie I thought it was first death Proof that people tend to not read anything I say, or just everything in general.[/QUOTE] What? One of your reasons to your proposed "plan" was because you didn't want CC to get "any surprising powers". And now you claim that poeple don't read? And I'm pretty sure I accused you first anyways, so technically, your the one who's counterattack. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
Additionally, i've seen no evidence of a tracker, which means we won't have any info on fishball either, and there was never any plan to check cubedin. That leaves 4 unknown roles out of 8, which seems like a lot of wiggle room. We really need kenpachi to tell us what he is and how he can prove it. I am thinking of a way for cubed to prove he is a doctor -- asking Ace right now if it's viable/legal. Which leaves jackal and fishball... Any more ideas? tracker care to claim? that would be a big help... | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
# aidnai Scum or incoherent Townie. He has been brought up as a prime candidate for lynch but was able to fight his way out. His last minute suggestion of another lynch candidate made me raise an eyebrow. # CubEdIn Nothing much on the guy. Pretty active, but nothing particularly stands out. Memory tells me he is reasonable. # Kenpachi Second major lynch target right after LoR. I'm going to be very honest here, the majority of my time was spent replying to those who wrote to me. I mainly let the majority interrogate Kenpachi, and only read through those posts. # bumatlarge Lately, seems like every time I play a game, bum is there too. Based on experience, bum is being bum, as in town aligned bum. He always ends up being Town for some reason... A logical player, and is a Mafia veteran. # Barundar Who are you? I'm sorry # deconduo Supposedly the CPR. A brief incident of him claiming not being able to get the CPR role, which then claimed it was actually Ace's mistake. Ace refused to confirm anything, but I do believe it's the latter. He haven't posted much lately, or entirely actually. # Eiii Random dude that changed his votes a couple times I think. # BloodyC0bbler Haha... I've mentioned BC more than a few times in the thread. Dude has been MIA thus far, and his reasoning for voting LoR is just  # kitaman27 Involved on the other side of the gong show. # GGQ Some how you always slip through my mind. Nothing have stood out thus far. # Amber[LighT] Another experienced Mafia player mostly lurking around. Like mentioned in my other post in reply to aidnai, Amber may very well be Mafia, I never denied it. I thought it was bad when he instantly voted for aidnai when aidnai accused him. I thought he wasn't here. # JimboSilvers Hmm, to say my impression on him, he currently lies in between CubEdIn and GGQ... # LSB Leader wannabe. Forced his plan really hard, despite opposing voices during pre-game from numerous players. For the most part, LSB's thought process has been logical, but not without flaws. On a scale of 10, 1 is Town aligned and 10 is Mafia aligned, I would put him at a 4 for now. # Jackal58 Another gong show member! # Beneather Seriously, how many times have I caught this guy failing to read? At least 3 times already. I don't know what to make of him. If he is Mafia, his slip ups are just too hard to believe they are actual slip ups. # HaploPaithan Calm guy. Another rather reasonable player. His ideas has been quite pro town. # Pigsquirrel Who the !@#$ are you?! # zeks Ignored my initial [3][1],[3][2],[3][3] accusation like a boss. He hasn't talked much, so not much here, but it almost feels like he is holding something back. zeks has also played in numerous Mafia games before. # Misder Dude that claims that he is not here, which I don't deny, but will eventually pop by to defend my blasphemous accusations. Unlike zeks, he gave me the opposite response to my [3][1],[3][2],[3][3] accusation. # Divinek Mainly inactive. Dropped by and expressed his disappointment of not being able to vote for aidnai, along with some gibberish. Quoted my epic 4k post and said he would be happy to prove me wrong after he dies... teheheh. No shrooms while playing Mafia, kk? So yeah, take my words with a pinch of salt. Now I have to reread all the posts and figure out this CC/CPR/Witch situation. | ||
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Fishball
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On January 12 2011 14:41 bumatlarge wrote: You guys need to do research : / We could have the CPR send his kill asap, and give the CC in the top 5 some role first. I asked Ace and the first person to send in their target gives role. But I guess we have to have deconduo here to send that in so I guess that's out of the question. We could have aidnai die, as I find him reasonably suspicious, and then witch role get's passed. But I believe Witch should be used relatively soon. So Aidnai, if you are witch I think you should use it and prove yourself, as I doubt SK would take it. If you are a mafia witch, then we can at least force you to use it now, rather then later. Aidnai would be a good check for BB. The CopyCat situation should be treated delicately, but we have to ask a few questions on this. - Why would Jackal lie? What would he gain as SK or mafia? What would he gain as townie? Well If he's lying, I would pin a high chance of him being the traitor we are looking for, but I think he'd rather claim CC as he knows LoR wasn't the traitor, but then again, he gets heavy scrutiny, which is kinda what the traitor wants, so I'll cross that out for now. As mafia or scum, he draws attention away from himself, which is EXACTLY what he wants, regardless of whether he did or did not get/pick CC. As town, if he wants to be a real hero, he will claim it, but it would be in good interests if he said he didn't get it as town. If he was lying, I would make an exception of LaL in this case. If he is town and he is CC, he should tell us to prevent unnecessary deaths of strong roles, and if he gets found out, we will kill him. So, there is a good chance he is not town-aligned. - If Jackal is telling the truth, what should we do? We should try to find the Copy Cat. If CopyCat is town and didn't follow the plan, he should claim and get a lot less FoS then if he was found out. We do have roles to find out obviously. Tracker could be used, but role cop has the most business up there, and should be checking who is most likely. I'd have to agree with the sentiments that CPR and Vig would not really want to steal that as scum/SK. Scum JOAT and BB however know they are denying town roles, so I suggest those two get role copped. As for traitor, it's confirmed in the Top 8, so Parity doesn't really want to be up there. Again Role Cop has even more use finding someone up there (Wow that role cop sure is a useful guy) Also, if no one brings up better candidates, I'd like to suggest people to protect based on roles and LSB's list and whether or not they followed it. deconduo Kenpachi kitaman27 Barundar bumatlarge Eiii zeks aidnai And then from based on what they have been posting, I'd highly suggest ME!.... Or whoever we agree not to hit with CPR I actually agree with the Jackal part. Jackal could have taken CC, claimed that he didn't, cause confusion in the town. No one could tell if he was lying, and he makes the top 4, which are the ones who should have power roles, targets to be scrutinized. He would gain the power of said top 4 roles, and benefit the mafia greatly. Also, 1st he says that he didn't get his role too late. And he can't make the excuse that he wasn't on until then cause he wrote a post in between LSBs post and his green claim. + Show Spoiler + On January 10 2011 13:30 LSB wrote: If you were assigned a red role and did no recieve it. Please Claim In addition, if you picked traitor and did not recieve it, please claim. Post in between On January 11 2011 06:13 Jackal58 wrote: I don't think we're going to find out anytime soon unless we lynch him. On January 11 2011 19:21 Jackal58 wrote: 1 of the 4 above me is the copy cat. I'm just green. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On January 12 2011 15:56 Fishball wrote: Oh fuck, just as I hit post, a wild Misder appeared. Aren't you supposed to be asleep? lol. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
Divinek, where the f are you. Your definitely used to post way more than you are now. I remember the game when I first started, you completely hated me for being "inactive", and now its on you. I know when you are town, you post good stuff. And now? I'm actually gonna agree with Fish here and say that you are one of my scum canidates. And BC. Every single game I've been on the opposite side of you, and I suspect its no different here. You haven't posted at all lately, and if you have, it hasn't been profound. You did this all the time as mafia. Even as ninja, you posted more. The only time I remember you posting much when youre mafia is when youre defending yourself, and unfortunately, only Fish has accused you, and without much to go on. I'm inclined to say that BC and Divinek are more suspicious than Fish at this point. Unfortunately. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
Woah, slow down there. I bet your eyes were so red in rage, that you couldn't fix your grammar, format your post, and didn't even want to preview it since you want to slap my in the face so badly. Your post is so broken I can't even quote it. I really don't feel like fixing the format for you... So, you accused me first huh? If you did, I'm so sorry. You're first, I lose, kk! Now down to business. I'm actually amazed that you are taking my accusations really seriously. I've said from time to time, if you're innocent, why would you give a shit? I would understand that you would need to voice up if you were on the verge of being lynched, but has anyone else jumped on the bandwagon and shout for your head? No. To be fair, I don't think anyone else besides me had even looked at you in this game. Thus far, besides not being here, for legitimate reasons or not I don't care, you haven't done much except for mainly responding to my shitty accusations like you said it. I don't know how thoroughly you are following the thread, and how thoroughly you have read my posts, but I did mention that all I'm doing at the beginning was to throw rocks into the lake. I might get nothing, I might get ripples, and I might get a tsunami. You're the tsunami. I've seen town aligned players get tunnel vision and only attack the people that accuse them. Hopefully your that player and not Mafia, getting desperate to counter everything thrown at him. With that being said, you accusing me is fine. If you have a point, people will listen, people will follow. Just don't focus everything on me, and only me, ignoring the lynch, ignoring whatever plan we have going, and just me. Most of the stuff you brought up has already been discussed. Whether to go through it in a calm manner or not, is your call. Regardless, with your reaction given, people would really start to wonder why and would be keeping an eye on you. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
I just replied to your other post and it's 12:26 am now. I have to wake up at 6 every morning I skimmed through your other posts, and its good to see you are discussing something else, other than my accusations. Heading to bed now. | ||
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Jackal58
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Most likely it's me or kenpachi who has the CC, and it ain't me. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Do I think Aidnai is mafia? Meh probably Did I think Aidnai was more suspicious than LayOffRage? Yah definitely We are accusing people for telling the truth, meanwhile we have the biggest shady characters running the show right now. Kenpachi I don't understand why you chose a role that you didn't understand. Aside from that the JOAT ability would have been a much cooler ability than some random roulette ability. Note to the town: I should be protected tonight. The copycat will be able to take on a strong role tonight. Kenpachi SHOULD DIE tonight. Deconduo I think it would be a good idea to CPR him. Copycat is a strong ability in the hands of the mafia. Roleblocking is an even stronger ability in the hands of the mafia... just saying... | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On January 12 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote: Yea. im not CC or JOAT WTF is this? | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On January 12 2011 14:02 Kenpachi wrote: OH NO I REREAD COPYCAT AND IF I DIE FIRST, THATS NOT GOOD FOR TOWN :< Thanks for lying. We lynched a vanilla and we have a copycat running around who is clearly more than suspicious. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On January 12 2011 22:39 Amber[LighT] wrote: Thanks for lying. We lynched a vanilla and we have a copycat running around who is clearly more than suspicious. He didn't write that he was Copy Cat, he wrote that we shouldn't kill him since the Copy Cat would then get his powerful role (honestly got no idea what role could be that powerful but meh). Note to the town: I should be protected tonight. The copycat will be able to take on a strong role tonight. Kenpachi SHOULD DIE tonight. Deconduo I think it would be a good idea to CPR him. Copycat is a strong ability in the hands of the mafia. Roleblocking is an even stronger ability in the hands of the mafia... just saying... I would like to add CPRdoc/vigi as candidates for medic protection. The last time I argued someone who accused me I accused them back, provided evidence, and then got killed, only to have the town barely think of that person as a suspect until LSB finally moved in to get the lynch done. Do I think Aidnai is mafia? Meh probably Did I think Aidnai was more suspicious than LayOffRage? Yah definitely We are accusing people for telling the truth, meanwhile we have the biggest shady characters running the show right now. What game are you refering to? This time you didn't provide evidence before your vote. LOR giving town useful information was my reason not to vote for him, but I posted that before the lynch not after. Fishball's reasons for lynching him was for information, not beceause he was scummy. | ||
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