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On November 19 2010 10:42 Glasse wrote: he's not retarded and he see through your fail arguments i guess. Kthez isnt dumb :3
aren't we debating right now? i'm pretty sure im easily denying anything you are saying right now
Your not debating anymore it seems. Cause seriously, that's where the road ended. You can't deny that.
Your lie has ended. So for the love of God, KtheZ, at least unvote me. I'm not even asking you to immediately vote glasse(that would also be retarded). I'm asking you to use your brain, and let debate happen.
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On November 19 2010 10:42 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 10:41 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:40 Glasse wrote: if you protected someone i would be dead... because you know.. its a sacrifice. once again, me flash, you mafia LOL Then we'd frickin win, cause you'd be dead. some logic, eh? durrrrrrrrr if i'm the last mafia alive and i sacrifice on someone that was protected i would be dead, or either kthez or you would be mafia as well, where the game would've ended already it is logical no?
except I'm flash, so there was a 50% chance i would protect that person, and stop the conversion.
actually, I'm wrong(and so are you.)
You couldn't have won, because LSB was still alive. It would still be 2v1, but LSB would've tracked me/you, and found out you were the real mafia.
So that's why you had to kill him.
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On November 19 2010 10:46 Glasse wrote: you don't get it do you? mafia has sacrifice + kill from what it seems, so i would've kiled lsb and sacrificed on either you or kthez, leading to either my death and the end of mafia, or either of you 2 being mafia with me right now, making the game over, because of 2v1 votes
Well then I'd still be right  50% chance you'd fail in conversion.
So stop spouting you could've automatically won, just like you've been spouting all this crap.
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On November 19 2010 10:49 Glasse wrote: you realize failed conversion = sacrifice(sacrifice means death) of the mafia right?
you are locked down and can't argue against it anymore, just claim mafia and end it Exactly.
SO YOU'D DIE. MAFIA DEAD=WE WIN
I still can't believe you can say this and have kthez believe it.
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Keep trying to say that would mean you win though.
Just become more desperate and desperate
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On November 19 2010 10:50 Glasse wrote: yea, so i would've been dead LAST NIGHT
you are just herp derping right now because you can't think of anything else to try to bring me down
LOL
IF YOU DIE WE WIN
KtheZ, do you see what he's fucking doing?
He's saying he can die and still win.
I swear if he wins I will kill myself.
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Man I've never felt so happy to have destroyed someone in debate.
KtheZ just frickin vote this guy.
there's times when debate is good, and there's times when the debate on one side is saying you win if you lose.
His basis, his lie, has been unraveled.
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On November 19 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote: wtf what you are saying doesnt even make sense?
if i was original mafia i could convert someone as well as kill someone, lsb was killed last night BUT conversion was not used because kthez or you arent mafia teamed with me, and i'm not dead due to failed conversion.
therefor someone that was converted is the last mafia, which means you, town win because i shut you down easily with events that happened in the game.
LOGIC SIR, LOGIC
And how was I converted? Let me guess, you tried to convert me. which no townie would have known. That's the only way that could happen.
Another slip, my friend.
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On November 19 2010 10:55 Glasse wrote: you did not destroy me, you got destroyed and are herp derping non sense right now desperately trying to get kthez to vote for me
?!
keep trying. just becoming more obvious by the second
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On November 19 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 10:56 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote: wtf what you are saying doesnt even make sense?
if i was original mafia i could convert someone as well as kill someone, lsb was killed last night BUT conversion was not used because kthez or you arent mafia teamed with me, and i'm not dead due to failed conversion.
therefor someone that was converted is the last mafia, which means you, town win because i shut you down easily with events that happened in the game.
LOGIC SIR, LOGIC And how was I converted? Let me guess, you tried to convert me. which no townie would have known. That's the only way that could happen. Another slip, my friend. if i tried to convert you and failed I WOULD FUCKING BE DEAD, WOULD YOU PLEASE FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT? Yakuza, can convert someone to mafia during the night, but sacrifices themselves while doing so. If that person is under shrink protection you will still die and they won't be converted. If you are protected by a doctor, the conversion will still go through and you will not die. Point taken. However, then obviously no one was converted. So you're still lying, eh? Either that or spouting stuff which has nothing to do with what your talking about.
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Because right now you just said you could've won. Yet I think it's been proven that you didn't because if you tried to convert you had a decent chance of failure and just dying.
so whats your argument.
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On November 19 2010 10:38 Pandain wrote: KtheZ don't you see something wrong when he doesn't want time to debate and just wants votes quickly(so then I won't have time to explain)
Or when he keeps on claiming I'm "confirmed mafia" using fake situations.
Or when he continously claims he doesn't want to respond to my arguments because "they are bad", yet really hasn't said anything on me and its obvious he just doesn't want to get trapped further.
Or the fact he keeps spouting I'm "confirmed mafia" WHEN THERE IS NO REALLY NO 100% WAY OF FINDING THAT OUT.
Again, the only way to find out is through analysis. And I have nothing on me, while Glasse has everything on him.
Coagulation would have gained nothing when he voted me so fast if we were scumbuddies.
Glasse had everything to gain from voting coag.
Glasse had nothing to lose when voting kenpachi. Glasse had everything to gain when laying suscipcion on dr. h when YM was deciding who to shoot
Glasse had nothing to loose when he claimed Kenpachi should have been shot, especially when he claims after.
I had nothing to gain from claiming coag was 100% mafia.
Glasse has everything to lose by ending debate abrubtly.
Glasse is mafia, realize it.
I want to repost this. in addition, you never responding to my response to your "defense"
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On November 19 2010 11:29 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 10:58 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:On November 19 2010 10:56 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote: wtf what you are saying doesnt even make sense?
if i was original mafia i could convert someone as well as kill someone, lsb was killed last night BUT conversion was not used because kthez or you arent mafia teamed with me, and i'm not dead due to failed conversion.
therefor someone that was converted is the last mafia, which means you, town win because i shut you down easily with events that happened in the game.
LOGIC SIR, LOGIC And how was I converted? Let me guess, you tried to convert me. which no townie would have known. That's the only way that could happen. Another slip, my friend. if i tried to convert you and failed I WOULD FUCKING BE DEAD, WOULD YOU PLEASE FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT? Yakuza, can convert someone to mafia during the night, but sacrifices themselves while doing so. If that person is under shrink protection you will still die and they won't be converted. If you are protected by a doctor, the conversion will still go through and you will not die. Point taken. However, then obviously no one was converted. So you're still lying, eh? Either that or spouting stuff which has nothing to do with what your talking about. Pandain, if noone was converted, the game would have ended. Its really obvious you're mafia.
Man frickin use your mind. No one was converted because glasse is mafia.
Let me lay this out for you.
Night two:Glasse mc's coag coag protects glasse Kenpachi fails to convert me, dies.
Glasse gets coag lynched so then he can get to late game basically confirmed and get me lynched. Night three they hit lsb because they can't let him reveal that glasse is mafia.
omfg
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On November 19 2010 11:39 Glasse wrote: there is 1 convert per night dude, 2 a night would be so fucking op. 1 convert 1 kill.
night 2 kenpachi converted pandain are you frkcing kidding me. they can both convert.
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On November 19 2010 11:32 Glasse wrote: sorry took longer than expected, my dogs started running after a stupid fox
i guess me not converting anyone would be a possibility, but would i have really taken this chance? I think 50/50 is a better than having to argue with you because you are trying to save your ass, which is annoying me to no end.
BUT, you not knowing that sacrifice killed the mafia you would've claimed who you protected as soon as day started, because thats 100% how you are you would've bragged about having saved the game, also day would not have started so quickly because at the exact time that the day post was posted (about 5 mins after i left) i was driving to college
ok so on your big post:
1. of course i will use the "if i'm mafia" thing, to prove you that whatever you say, you can't prove i am mafia.
2. i answered to all your arguments? they are still bad
3. i didnt lay suspicion on drh when ym was deciding who to shoot, wtf are you talking about?
4. herp derp of course i said he should've been shot, i voted for him.
5. losing everything by ending debate abruptly? wtf is that even supposed to mean, i've been trying to make you shut the fuck up and let kthez and me win so i can go do something else
why am i even trying to prove myself to you, kthez is the only one i need to prove something to, and i'm pretty sure he knows from lsb, and me that you are mafia Of course. Why would you risk leaving that to chance when you can BS like you are now that your confirmed when you're really not. Again, not your addmitting your arguments are flawed. of course i know sacrifice kills mafia. in addition i protected myself, and I don't know even if i mentioned it cause its sort of irrelevant.
Man I've frickin proved your mafia. I'm still waiting for you to adress point by point. And of course you layed suscipcion on dr. h, you said he's trying to hide something. Caught in a lie. For #4, your vote didn't matter, he was never in danger. And I'm saying its easy for you to say that AFTER YM already killed someone, when you just conviently didn't say your opinions earlier.
And if you let debate go through, you will lose. That's why your trying to stop it.
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On November 19 2010 11:41 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 11:29 KtheZ wrote:On November 19 2010 10:58 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:On November 19 2010 10:56 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote: wtf what you are saying doesnt even make sense?
if i was original mafia i could convert someone as well as kill someone, lsb was killed last night BUT conversion was not used because kthez or you arent mafia teamed with me, and i'm not dead due to failed conversion.
therefor someone that was converted is the last mafia, which means you, town win because i shut you down easily with events that happened in the game.
LOGIC SIR, LOGIC And how was I converted? Let me guess, you tried to convert me. which no townie would have known. That's the only way that could happen. Another slip, my friend. if i tried to convert you and failed I WOULD FUCKING BE DEAD, WOULD YOU PLEASE FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT? Yakuza, can convert someone to mafia during the night, but sacrifices themselves while doing so. If that person is under shrink protection you will still die and they won't be converted. If you are protected by a doctor, the conversion will still go through and you will not die. Point taken. However, then obviously no one was converted. So you're still lying, eh? Either that or spouting stuff which has nothing to do with what your talking about. Pandain, if noone was converted, the game would have ended. Its really obvious you're mafia. Man frickin use your mind. No one was converted because glasse is mafia. Let me lay this out for you. Night two:Glasse mc's coag coag protects glasse Kenpachi fails to convert me, dies. Glasse gets coag lynched so then he can get to late game basically confirmed and get me lynched. Night three they hit lsb because they can't let him reveal that glasse is mafia. omfg That reasoning is extremely far-fetched. Are you telling me that coag would rather protect a RANDOM person than LSB, who had claimed? Kenpachi visiting you before he committed suicide is enough proof its you. Although Glasse, I'd like to note that both mafia ARE able to MC on the same day 
Are you fucking kidding me. It's coagulation Idk why he protected glasse, the point is he did. He probably followed glasse's stupid advice of rnging.
Again, based on our posts, who do you really think is more likely mafia?
Haven't you noted how glasse tries to shirk away from responding? Haven't you noticed how he conviently forgets stuff, and misleads you? Haven't you noticed how he's been forging this BS(like the "fact" that they don't both have convert) to prove I'm mafia.
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Respond to the arguments, Glasse
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you "forget" that mafia can both mind control you mislead by saying you could've won if you were mafia you mislead by saying I'm proven mafia via kenpachi
And I'm still waiting for that proof. Cause you just fell through with the whole "mafia can both mc" thing.
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On November 19 2010 11:47 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2010 11:41 KtheZ wrote:On November 19 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 11:29 KtheZ wrote:On November 19 2010 10:58 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:On November 19 2010 10:56 Pandain wrote:On November 19 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote: wtf what you are saying doesnt even make sense?
if i was original mafia i could convert someone as well as kill someone, lsb was killed last night BUT conversion was not used because kthez or you arent mafia teamed with me, and i'm not dead due to failed conversion.
therefor someone that was converted is the last mafia, which means you, town win because i shut you down easily with events that happened in the game.
LOGIC SIR, LOGIC And how was I converted? Let me guess, you tried to convert me. which no townie would have known. That's the only way that could happen. Another slip, my friend. if i tried to convert you and failed I WOULD FUCKING BE DEAD, WOULD YOU PLEASE FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT? Yakuza, can convert someone to mafia during the night, but sacrifices themselves while doing so. If that person is under shrink protection you will still die and they won't be converted. If you are protected by a doctor, the conversion will still go through and you will not die. Point taken. However, then obviously no one was converted. So you're still lying, eh? Either that or spouting stuff which has nothing to do with what your talking about. Pandain, if noone was converted, the game would have ended. Its really obvious you're mafia. Man frickin use your mind. No one was converted because glasse is mafia. Let me lay this out for you. Night two:Glasse mc's coag coag protects glasse Kenpachi fails to convert me, dies. Glasse gets coag lynched so then he can get to late game basically confirmed and get me lynched. Night three they hit lsb because they can't let him reveal that glasse is mafia. omfg That reasoning is extremely far-fetched. Are you telling me that coag would rather protect a RANDOM person than LSB, who had claimed? Kenpachi visiting you before he committed suicide is enough proof its you. Although Glasse, I'd like to note that both mafia ARE able to MC on the same day  Wait this isnt even RIGHT. Coag was shown to be YAKUZA (there probably would be a diff name if he was a converted person)
Agian, that is not the ase. Jeezes
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