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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:31 GMT
#488
Technically isn't it 50% chance(me and glasse) vs. 33% chance(chance I'll correctly guess who he'll mc)
:p
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:35 GMT
#491
On November 18 2010 11:32 Glasse wrote:
your plan is flawed already, i can't even mc. because i'm flash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est
Saying it does not make it so.

But I'll go with you LSB.
##Vote Coagulation
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:43 GMT
#493
##Unvote Coag.
Actually, I'm going to wait until at least when I wake up.
I still need to think about it and we should use up all of our time anyway.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 12:22 GMT
#530
Lol why wouldn't I protect myself.
Let's think about it:
Dr. H is dead, Artanis is dead, it's going to be between you and me LSB.
Now they're most likely NOT going to hit you since you are most likely to get shrink protection. So they go for me.

So that's why I did that.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 12:27 GMT
#534
both of you stop spamming.
And you just edited coag.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 12:44 GMT
#538
and apparently coag is mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 12:47 GMT
#543
O.o
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 12:53 GMT
#546
As it stands right now there's no way to verify who's telling the truth.

It could be glasse, it could be me.

It comes down to what it shoudl be, cold hard analysis.
I suggest we all wait so then mafia can't easily just get a majority or something.

Decon how are you going to end day? Whole 48 hours? Or what?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 20:21 GMT
#553
Why Glasse's claim of shrink does not fit(Also an Analysis of his posts)
Summary: glasse has not played pro town this game. He has offered poor advice, has played scummily, made contradictions, and says to have performed actions which simply do not make sense. Dr. H was right when he pinned Glasse/kenpachi as the mafia team. I urge you to read this post, and not just skim it, as I bring up very good points here.
His Posts:
On November 12 2010 21:01 Glasse wrote:
Sup, i'm finally unbanned (longest 2 days ever)

I feel like the doctor and the other thing that can protect shouldnt roleclaim. Not yet at least :3
So many bad things can happen :3


First post and it already bodes ill for him. Note his relunctance to roleclaim. Now, its obvious he feels that doctors/shrinks shouldn't roleclaim, because bad things can happen. Yet he claims he's shrink almost immediately after I reveal I'm shrink. That doesn't add up.
Also note he calls shrink "that other thing." doesn't he know the role if he is it?

On November 13 2010 00:42 Glasse wrote:
wait so if i get this right, mafia gets a free kp on night 1 and basically the medic/shrink/whatever will have to randomly guess who to protect?

did i get that wrong?
sounds kinda silly

Clarifies rules.
On November 13 2010 05:48 Glasse wrote:
what if that's what he want to he can convert, not die and then mafia has 3 ppl after night 1. :3

typing with this new keyboard feels so awesome

happy cat is happy look at him!

:3

First post against LSB(who has been revealed Town tracker.) Says that he could just be really a mafia who fake claimed tracker(despite the fact if the real tracker claimed that plan would be ruined.) So this statement is very leaning towards anti town, especially since LSB has already said he's confirmed because no other tracker has claimed. Ends with spam.

On November 13 2010 05:55 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 12:09 Coagulation wrote:

5. Glasse
Posting quality and town contribution fluctuates based on his roles he receives
if hes got a role hes not happy with hes pretty bad
if hes got a decent role he contributes alot



i played 2 games total you can't really base yourself on that


Later says its obvious he always role claims fast, which contradicts as mentioned previously and with this statement.


On November 13 2010 11:56 Glasse wrote:
i feel like this is going nowhere right now :3

we need to do stuff if we wanna stop them from convincing everyone to touch childrens inapropriately


And this doesn't help :/

On November 14 2010 02:43 Glasse wrote:
i'd suggest that the shrink guy protects himself for the first night :3
doctor can rng as the mafia pick will probably be random as well


VERY ANTI TOWN. First, as already noted, shrink had to have protected LSB because he was confirmed, and tracker. Note that Glasse's claimed reason for not protecting LSB was that "he was not confirmed." Going further, why would Glasse protect himself? Did he really think he was in danger of being MCed?
Furthormore, he now claims this proves he DID protect himself night one. However, all it really proves is that he has been anti town in his "shrink" actions. So that doesn't even add up.
In addition having the doctor rng was a very bad idea. Mafia, as long as their not dumb, will never rng. Kills always have a purpose. Even worse, having the doctor RNG was even worse(doesn't protect LSB[wtf], can protect mafia, doesn't use noggin).

On November 15 2010 01:15 Glasse wrote:
i wonder if mafia will try to hit the more experienced ppl

or maybe we should lynch the most experienced ppl because they can manipulate easier

Says to lynch the expierenced people....


On November 15 2010 10:18 Glasse wrote:
can you really vote for no one?
also i would not do that, it makes it much easier to manipulate a vote for mafia if over half of the town doesnt even vote


says he is against not voting.

On November 15 2010 21:05 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 15 2010 12:17 Pandain wrote:

I knew I would regret it.
Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy
But again, who else do you think is a good lynch?

well

you look like scum to me
coagulation is our worst player
i don't trust glasse's inactivity and iirc he made a kinda bad scummy post on me but that could have been in kingmaker, i don't exactly remember



Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 12:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
glasse wasn't even in kingmaker so it was in this game


what? where?


Also coag, you're asking for it.. i was planning on being quiet but helpful, now i must unleash the derp.

Also, going to vote for a lurker

##Vote: Kenpachi


Can we get an official vote count?


Goes against previous statement, votes for Kenpachi. Now, this may seem very "pro town" at first, seeing as kenpachi later turned out to be scum. But let's go in detail about this vote, and why in reality it put kenpachi in no danger. At that time, that was the very first vote for kenpachi. THE VERY FIRST VOTE. The votes to lynch no one was ahead by two votes, and doctor h had two votes. I was the only one who had to vote. Mafia go against other mafia all the time to lend town cred for later stages of the game. Ace did it hardcore against me in insane mafia, as well as RoL. Rather than take the actions at face value, what you have to do is go beyond and see what they really meant. As in, did they have any true effect? This vote, at that time, did not. It was merely giving him "brownie points" when really kenpachi was in no real danger.

Now, glasse never posted after this vote. I think it's a safe assumption to assume he did not come back until at least after I voted for kenpachi(which it was still safe for kenpachi.) Kenpachi was never in any real danger, therefore glasse's vote for him does not confirm him.
On November 16 2010 10:10 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 07:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm feeling Glasse/Kenpachi right now as the scumteam.


Yea, because obviously me trying to get him lynched hes my teamate

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 07:27 LSB wrote:
Youngminii, please shoot glasse or Kenpachi. They're kinof inactive.


i can start spamming instead of posting constructive comments every once in a while if you want, i thought people were mad at my super cat powers in insane mafia...

i just don't feel like letting everyone know my thoughts on EVERYTHING all the time...

if it bothers you so much i'll do it


Already adressed as glasse hardly tried to get kenpachi lynched. Says he doesn't want people to know what he's thinking(what).

On November 16 2010 10:14 Glasse wrote:
i just dont have anything important to say :3

SORRY!

Apologizing for not contributing. Again, note that this is how I caught kenpachi(in addition to other things.) This just reeks of inherent guilt, apologizing for not contributing.

On November 16 2010 10:25 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 10:22 LSB wrote:
What do you think of the Pandain/Doctor H argument?


i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something.


Now, this does mean something. What's happening right now? YM is dead, and he was going to either (in most liklihood) shoot kenpachi or Dr. H. Now, glasse finally comes in, and puts suscipcion on dr. h. So this actually DOES mean something. Also note dr. h was town.


On November 16 2010 23:07 Glasse wrote:
honestly i would've hit kenpachi :3

this sucks

Alright, wtf. why didn't you say this before. Now, I now previously you were responding to how you felt about me vs dr. h, but seriously this kind of stuff is important. Also note this is AFTER Dr. H was already shot, so he can say whatever he says he "felt" really :/.

On November 17 2010 23:41 Glasse wrote:
wait kenpachi commited suicide but artanis isnt red now?

YES someone got protected by flash!


Yes, and it wasn't you. Note that this really just shows he's not flash, that that was just a spur of the moment decision to combat my claim as flash. Note that how would this work since he claims he protected LSB night two. Doesn't add up.
On November 18 2010 04:34 Glasse wrote:
we cant leave pandain alive, he could just sacrifice himself then we lose track of everything.

Again, if he's flash couldn't he protect from the "evil pandain?" Also note he hasn't voted for me either, so he's saying and not doing.

On November 18 2010 06:19 Glasse wrote:
ok, i'm actually flash. pandain is a fucking liar rofl.

kthez or coag are mafia


Claims he's flash.

On November 18 2010 06:20 Glasse wrote:
i protected myself night 1 and lsb night 2.

Now let's analyze these choices. Now, obviously protecting himself night one for the reasons he did was very anti town. And why would he protect LSB if he was still unsure of his alignment? In addition, why would he protect himself night one.
1.Did he really think mafia would try to sacrifice one of their own to get him?(you might be pretty decent but your not incognito or something)
2.Did he really think HE was more likely to get Mced than LSB, or even Artanis/Dr. H?(or i, but I'm not as amazing)
These choices just don't fit.

On November 18 2010 06:22 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 06:20 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 06:19 Glasse wrote:
ok, i'm actually flash. pandain is a fucking liar rofl.

kthez or coag are mafia

And we caught the second mafia.



yea, kthez or coag

maybe even lsb... his claim could be fake :3 crap


This doesn't fit either. So he isn't sure of LSB's alignment even now(yet protected him the previous night), and thinks he found a mafia(me) because of what LSB(who he doesn't know is confirmed) says? Sorry if that's worded weird. But furthormore, LSB is obviously confirmed.

On November 18 2010 06:23 Glasse wrote:
facepalm, please dont believe him :3

who cares if i went against the town consensus, i thought i should protect myself until i know more and not chance having mafia get 3 because their sacrifice didnt actually die

Thus begins his great "proof" of being shrink, that you guys shouldn't believe me. The second sentence, read it. "Who cares if I went against the town consensus". That is a VERY mafia-esque statement. going furthor, here he reveals he didn't protect LSB because he didn't think LSB was town(at the very least not neccesarily).

On November 18 2010 08:42 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 06:30 LSB wrote:
-maintains radio silence-
Keep a clean thread for the final day please
(I tracked Pandain)


(did he leave his house?)


Why would you have to ask this if your the real shrink? If you were real(and thus I fake), you would already know.

On November 18 2010 10:24 Glasse wrote:
well i made a list of possiblities :3
also i'm not lying

pandain left night 1 so it means :

Effort - drh *dead
calm - artanis *dead
clam - kthez
sea - pandain (mafia)
stork - lsb
jaedong - youngmini *dead
flash - glasse
mafia 1 - kenpachi *dead
mafia 2 - coag

i fail to see how anything else can happen, since all roles that can go out are confirmed, pandain was medic and coag is mafia. unless coag lied and kthez is mafia, but i doubt it? :3


##vote: coagulation


Votes coag, but again obviously that doesn't really matterr since here he is now.

On November 18 2010 10:33 Glasse wrote:
##unvote (for now so it doesnt end the day)


Actually pro town, the first pro town thing.

On November 18 2010 10:39 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 06:40 Pandain wrote:
On November 16 2010 07:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm feeling Glasse/Kenpachi right now as the scumteam.

Dr. H accuses him, glasse accuses back and tries to make Dr. H seem less credible.

On November 16 2010 10:25 Glasse wrote:
On November 16 2010 10:22 LSB wrote:
What do you think of the Pandain/Doctor H argument?


i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something.


And yes, I want glasse to respond to all this.
I'll do an analysis hopefully after I get back from this political group thingamabobber, but until then I'll just be pointing out inconsitincies/proofs.


Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 06:35 Pandain wrote:
And I have full faith I'll be able to get him lynched so we win, since he has already messed up several ways.
1.Keeps suggesting you could be fake, while saying he protected himself because he didn't believe you, and he still doesn't believe you now, yet he "protected LSB second night."
2.He immediately claims he's shrink, which suggests either
1.He's VERY VERY VERY VERY rash. or
2.He's thought this out already, and knows what to do(try to get me lynched)

You tracked me night one, that lends credence to me. What does Glasse have? His word?



You are really pushing for me because you think i can't defend myself or something?

1. i didnt say he was fake, i said he could be. i realized he could be fake while typing the post where i said he could be... then he said no counter claim, which is right and makes sense, if the real tracker said it we would of owned a mafia early. what can happen is that medic protected sacrifice so there are actually 3 mafia, but game would be over already that way. he can't be mafia

2. i was reading the thread, people that are obvious liars and full of shit make me kinda mad so i had to claim quickly to exactly not let you use the argument "he thought about it for a while and decided to counter claim"

i said drh was trying 2 hard because did you see those 10000 words posts? i felt like it was 2 much

do an analysis if you want, you will point out random fake shit to try to prove me as red, but then i can easily deny all of those accusations, since i'm not red


did i miss something?


Here he elaborates on his story. Now says he didn't know if LSB WAS confirmed. But again, did he really think it was more likely that he would be MCEd than LSB???
Also says he claimed early so then other people wouldn't be like "well, he claimed late so..." when later he says that "you know I always roleclaim."

On November 18 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)


dude you have played with me in 2 games before, you know i roleclaim quickly without really thinking about it.
i didnt think they'd shrink lsb night 1 since he was somewhat confirmed and should be protected, so i thought saving my life if they hit me would be better for the town
why shouldnt he rng? mafia probably rng'd as well, nobody knew shit almost


Here he says he roleclaimed because he's just like that. Also now says that he was indeed doing what LSB said glasse was probably, that he was just being "uber meta". So now its a new reason.

Also how would you know if mafia wouldn't know fadoodle?


On November 18 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:55 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)


dude you have played with me in 2 games before, you know i roleclaim quickly without really thinking about it.
i didnt think they'd shrink lsb night 1 since he was somewhat confirmed and should be protected, so i thought saving my life if they hit me would be better for the town
why shouldnt he rng? mafia probably rng'd as well, nobody knew shit almost

Now your changing your reasoning, you said he wasn't confirmed.
And why in the world would mafia RNG.



wait i changed my reasoning? he wasnt confirmed. confirmed = 100%. there was still a chance the real detective didnt want to fall in the mafia trap. i feel like we are just going around in circle now because you can't bring anything up other than little meaningless changes(which are actually just different wording) in my arguments


Again, yes he was. Real tracker would've claimed immediately.

On November 18 2010 11:05 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:55 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)


dude you have played with me in 2 games before, you know i roleclaim quickly without really thinking about it.
i didnt think they'd shrink lsb night 1 since he was somewhat confirmed and should be protected, so i thought saving my life if they hit me would be better for the town
why shouldnt he rng? mafia probably rng'd as well, nobody knew shit almost

Now your changing your reasoning, you said he wasn't confirmed.
And why in the world would mafia RNG.



wait i changed my reasoning? he wasnt confirmed. confirmed = 100%. there was still a chance the real detective didnt want to fall in the mafia trap. i feel like we are just going around in circle now because you can't bring anything up other than little meaningless changes(which are actually just different wording) in my arguments


Again, LSB WAS 100% confirmed.
Name one instance he could not be.


lets say he claimed, the real stork didnt want to claim incase he would fall in a mafia trap, he could have been mafia

Why would anyone not claim because of this?

On November 18 2010 11:14 Glasse wrote:
i said why i didnt protect him before, and it was because there was a chance he was not real stork, which is true, and if he was, he would probably not be targetted ANYWAY. you can't deny that unless you use dumb flawed logic, which you are trying to do, because you are desperate.


Again, previously he said he only did it because "lsb was not confirmed."

And then he's also been pushing to lynch coag(well, really LSB was.) But here's where I think it really was just a plan for glasse to get to late stage.
Let's see the scenario:
Coag(mafia)
Glasse(mafia)
Pandain
LSB
KtheZ

Now, he could've done one of two things.
1.Push to get me lynched.
But never voted for me. And this would be hard to do since I got the truth on my side.
2.Get Coag lynched, hit LSB. Now he is "basically confirmed" and can probably get me lynched.
This is alot like what happened with me in insane mafia. But note this analysis, how it shows otherwise. This option was actually the smart one to do.

Now, let's see coag's performance here.

On November 18 2010 12:34 Coagulation wrote:
ok you guys i cant fucking believe glasse is manipulating the shit out of this and you guys are all hook line and sinker to buy his bullshit.
fuck that. dont fucking let him push this bullshit on me.
he has been hiding all fucking game not contributing a fucking thing to town.
now all of a sudden he comes out and decides to fucking push a lynch on me. yeah sure fucking thing glasse. sorry to disappoint you buddy but your the one thats scum not me.


Does this really sound sincere? To me it sounds setup. Obviously this is wifom but informed wifom.

On November 18 2010 12:51 Glasse wrote:
medic is pandain and pandain is mafia, i hate those arguments when the 2 mafia are teaming up against me because i cant prove i'm flash other than hoping people dont believe mafia's flawed logic

wait i just realized something

notice how both of our suspects are teaming up on me.

Tries to link me and coag when I pointed out coag was 100% mafia(before he was killed, so why would i do that if we were scum buddies.)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 21:04 GMT
#555
Perhaps its because your not the real flash?
And if you had read my post you would see why your vote for coag doesn't confirm you.

Wait, you said "i did not read your post" then talk about my post?

dude, you can't just say "I'm the real flash" and expect to be believed. Learn that next time when playing mafia.

And LSB said nothing about me besides when he tracked me, which all it does really is confirm I'm shrink. Don't make stuff up.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 21:05 GMT
#556
"I don't feel like I need to explain more or try to twist your already scummy posts my way"

When would you ever?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 21:14 GMT
#559
On November 19 2010 06:10 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 06:05 Pandain wrote:
"I don't feel like I need to explain more or try to twist your already scummy posts my way"

When would you ever?


i'm in a good position right now, where i'm actually telling the truth so i don't need to lie and not quote part of posts that are most important to prove i'm blue


also you completely avoided the fact that i left for roughly 3h30 and then came back and posted, which was after my class

i feel like that in itself is a good enough point that proves i can't have posted... i can show you my schedule if you want...


What are you talking about for the second sentence.
Furthormore, I'm saying when would you ever feel the need to twist scummy posts your way? I'm saying that you basically said that you would if the situation were different(lsb had tracked you for instance.) Furthormore, in response to your above post(not quoted), I AM proving that I'm the real shrink. You're not, just saying "believe meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and wifommmmmmmmm"
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 21:27 GMT
#561
On November 19 2010 06:18 Glasse wrote:
you can't prove shit, because i'm flash and i suck at arguments

also :

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 21:04 Glasse wrote:
i'm not at school its 7 am, im leaving in about 1 hour for college :3



Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 01:34 Glasse wrote:
wait i didnt send my night action why was the day started?


first post when i get back, thats what i meant

you are just twisting my words because i word stuff differently a lot because i'm french and my english isnt perfect, ill read your post and answer to everything then i guess if you really want to be fucking annoying about it


"I can't argue, but trust me" is not a valid argument."
You are even more likely than me to be mafia because
1.Lynching Coag was the smart option for mafia
2.Why would coag have voted me SO fast.


And yes, answer to everything. I'm sorry if I'm being confusing, but if you ever need just ask for clarification. I understand not everyone on TL speaks English as a first language.

Also, your first post when you got back from what?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 21:28 GMT
#562
nvm about clarification, ty
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 21:29 GMT
#563
Regarding that, it really doesn't apply. First off its wifom, we don't know for sure you're going to college. Most likely your not lying, but the main thing is you could post even from college. I know brownbear does, and I post from high school(and in college you have more freedom so.)

Basically that argument relies to wifomm, which is not a good basis for argument.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 22:04 GMT
#570
[QUOTE]On November 19 2010 05:21 Pandain wrote:
Why Glasse's claim of shrink does not fit(Also an Analysis of his posts)
Summary: glasse has not played pro town this game. He has offered poor advice, has played scummily, made contradictions, and says to have performed actions which simply do not make sense. Dr. H was right when he pinned Glasse/kenpachi as the mafia team. I urge you to read this post, and not just skim it, as I bring up very good points here.
His Posts:
[QUOTE]On November 12 2010 21:01 Glasse wrote:
Sup, i'm finally unbanned (longest 2 days ever)

I feel like the doctor and the other thing that can protect shouldnt roleclaim. Not yet at least :3
So many bad things can happen :3[/QUOTE]

First post and it already bodes ill for him. Note his relunctance to roleclaim. Now, its obvious he feels that doctors/shrinks shouldn't roleclaim, because bad things can happen. Yet he claims he's shrink almost immediately after I reveal I'm shrink. That doesn't add up.
Also note he calls shrink "that other thing." doesn't he know the role if he is it?

Obviously i fucking instantly roleclaimed, i felt like the fact that everyone thought he was confirmed because no one counter claimed would of worked my way, i instantly posted when i saw your comment because i was excited we confirmed a mafia member. Also, an easy way to make people think i'm not flash is to not even know how to call it
So then
1.Why would you thought another person wouldn't have claimed when LSB did(thus confirming him
2.But here you said they shouldn't, you at the very least showed strong relunctance to roleclaim. But merely one minute later you roleclaim, showing no hesitation.


[QUOTE]On November 13 2010 00:42 Glasse wrote:
wait so if i get this right, mafia gets a free kp on night 1 and basically the medic/shrink/whatever will have to randomly guess who to protect?

did i get that wrong?
sounds kinda silly[/QUOTE]
Clarifies rules.
[QUOTE]On November 13 2010 05:48 Glasse wrote:
what if that's what he want to he can convert, not die and then mafia has 3 ppl after night 1. :3

typing with this new keyboard feels so awesome

happy cat is happy look at him!

:3[/QUOTE]
First post against LSB(who has been revealed Town tracker.) Says that he could just be really a mafia who fake claimed tracker(despite the fact if the real tracker claimed that plan would be ruined.) So this statement is very leaning towards anti town, especially since LSB has already said he's confirmed because no other tracker has claimed. Ends with spam.

So you are avoiding my whole argument i did with you a couple pages ago to point this out AGAIN because it can help you in a way. No, he was not 100% confirmed and i explained why before. If the real detective didnt want to claim yet incase he would die and/or cause chaos to town
I'm not avoiding your argument. I'm pointint out inconsitincies. Like here you disagree with the previous post. In the case where you were a real shrink, why would you immediately claim if you caught a fake claim(hypothetical me), yet think that this person wouldn't?
And why would it matter if he dies if he caught a mafia


[QUOTE]On November 13 2010 05:55 Glasse wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 12 2010 12:09 Coagulation wrote:

5. Glasse
Posting quality and town contribution fluctuates based on his roles he receives
if hes got a role hes not happy with hes pretty bad
if hes got a decent role he contributes alot

[/QUOTE]

i played 2 games total you can't really base yourself on that[/QUOTE]

Later says its obvious he always role claims fast, which contradicts as mentioned previously and with this statement.

i like how you only remember things that helps you try to down me lol. the way i post and myself roleclaiming fast don't really mean the same thing, Also i wanted to be jaedong, fuck flash :3

of course i do, because then I can find mafia.
[QUOTE]On November 13 2010 11:56 Glasse wrote:
i feel like this is going nowhere right now :3

we need to do stuff if we wanna stop them from convincing everyone to touch childrens inapropriately[/QUOTE]

And this doesn't help :/

[QUOTE]On November 14 2010 02:43 Glasse wrote:
i'd suggest that the shrink guy protects himself for the first night :3
doctor can rng as the mafia pick will probably be random as well[/QUOTE]

VERY ANTI TOWN. First, as already noted, shrink had to have protected LSB because he was confirmed, and tracker. Note that Glasse's claimed reason for not protecting LSB was that "he was not confirmed." Going further, why would Glasse protect himself? Did he really think he was in danger of being MCed?
Furthormore, he now claims this proves he DID protect himself night one. However, all it really proves is that he has been anti town in his "shrink" actions. So that doesn't even add up.
In addition having the doctor rng was a very bad idea. Mafia, as long as their not dumb, will never rng. Kills always have a purpose. Even worse, having the doctor RNG was even worse(doesn't protect LSB[wtf], can protect mafia, doesn't use noggin).

bringing this up again, jesus fucking christ, i explained it earlier in my answers. he was not 100% confirmed, i was not necessarily in danger of getting mc'd i just thought it'd be a better choice to keep myself as town instead of another random person that could have ended up being mafia as well. Also you really like to press on that "rng is dumb for doctor" because you really thought about it AS YOU WERE THE DOCTOR AT THAT POINT and disagree with me on that point\
Same point as above. But again, why would you be in danger of being Mced? And if you protected a mafia, nothing bad would happen. And you weren't going to die(unless mafia were extra weird for some reason), so why would you protect yourself?
I don't have to be doctor to now that a doctor rnging his protection is pretty anti town.


[QUOTE]On November 15 2010 01:15 Glasse wrote:
i wonder if mafia will try to hit the more experienced ppl

or maybe we should lynch the most experienced ppl because they can manipulate easier [/QUOTE]
Says to lynch the expierenced people....

yea, the reason why i said it is true, i wouldnt want to lynch you early because your abilities to analyse suck
I caught kenpachi...caught you

[QUOTE]On November 15 2010 10:18 Glasse wrote:
can you really vote for no one?
also i would not do that, it makes it much easier to manipulate a vote for mafia if over half of the town doesnt even vote[/QUOTE]

says he is against not voting.

of course, 2 kills per mafia a night is fucking dangerous, i'd rather take a chance and maybe catch one. and if you look, i voted kenpachi which ended up being an actual mafia
This wasn't accusing you actually lol. This was actually something pro town that you did!
[QUOTE]On November 15 2010 21:05 Glasse wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 15 2010 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 15 2010 12:17 Pandain wrote:

I knew I would regret it.
Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy
But again, who else do you think is a good lynch?[/QUOTE]
well

you look like scum to me
coagulation is our worst player
i don't trust glasse's inactivity and iirc he made a kinda bad scummy post on me but that could have been in kingmaker, i don't exactly remember[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]On November 15 2010 12:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
glasse wasn't even in kingmaker so it was in this game[/QUOTE]

what? where?


Also coag, you're asking for it.. i was planning on being quiet but helpful, now i must unleash the derp.

Also, going to vote for a lurker

##Vote: Kenpachi


Can we get an official vote count?
[/QUOTE]


Goes against previous statement, votes for Kenpachi. Now, this may seem very "pro town" at first, seeing as kenpachi later turned out to be scum. But let's go in detail about this vote, and why in reality it put kenpachi in no danger. At that time, that was the very first vote for kenpachi. THE VERY FIRST VOTE. The votes to lynch no one was ahead by two votes, and doctor h had two votes. I was the only one who had to vote. Mafia go against other mafia all the time to lend town cred for later stages of the game. Ace did it hardcore against me in insane mafia, as well as RoL. Rather than take the actions at face value, what you have to do is go beyond and see what they really meant. As in, did they have any true effect? This vote, at that time, did not. It was merely giving him "brownie points" when really kenpachi was in no real danger.

Now, glasse never posted after this vote. I think it's a safe assumption to assume he did not come back until at least after I voted for kenpachi(which it was still safe for kenpachi.) Kenpachi was never in any real danger, therefore glasse's vote for him does not confirm him.


wait how the fuck am i going against my previous statement, i was AGAINST voting for no one. Also 21h KST is around when i usually leave for college i think, so thats why i came back later

maybe he wasnt in real danger, that's true, but he could have been as i left after i voted and it could have ended badly

My bad, I concede. Still, that really wasn't a main point. Now respond to the other 10 contradictions. Now your appealing to speculation, "well...maybe..." is common argument for scum when their lying.

[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 10:10 Glasse wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 07:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm feeling Glasse/Kenpachi right now as the scumteam.[/QUOTE]

Yea, because obviously me trying to get him lynched hes my teamate

[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 07:27 LSB wrote:
Youngminii, please shoot glasse or Kenpachi. They're kinof inactive.[/QUOTE]

i can start spamming instead of posting constructive comments every once in a while if you want, i thought people were mad at my super cat powers in insane mafia...

i just don't feel like letting everyone know my thoughts on EVERYTHING all the time...

if it bothers you so much i'll do it[/QUOTE]

Already adressed as glasse hardly tried to get kenpachi lynched. Says he doesn't want people to know what he's thinking(what).

i thought what drh said in insane mafia was true, telling everything you know to everyone can often harm the town more than it can help
But not at all?

[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 10:14 Glasse wrote:
i just dont have anything important to say :3

SORRY![/QUOTE]
Apologizing for not contributing. Again, note that this is how I caught kenpachi(in addition to other things.) This just reeks of inherent guilt, apologizing for not contributing.


yea, i felt bad for not helping the town, if you really thought what you just said is true you would have said it earlier, not now where you desperatly need to prove i'm mafia to get your mafia win. I WONT FUCKING LET YOU WIN TWICE IN A ROW and if i was mafia you could be 100% sure i would have fucking killed you night 1 because i hate you
Again, if you felt bad why didn't you help? And what are you talking about, this is the first time I'm really analyzing you, and trust me, town is gonna win this one.

[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 10:25 Glasse wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 10:22 LSB wrote:
What do you think of the Pandain/Doctor H argument?[/QUOTE]

i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something. [/QUOTE]

Now, this does mean something. What's happening right now? YM is dead, and he was going to either (in most liklihood) shoot kenpachi or Dr. H. Now, glasse finally comes in, and puts suscipcion on dr. h. So this actually DOES mean something. Also note dr. h was town.

yea, i dont remember drh posting posts as big as this one before to prove a point that could have been proven in a much shorter way, i thought he was trying to hide something, which i also explained later
Because by posting alot, your hiding something. I see. *sacrcasm*



[QUOTE]On November 16 2010 23:07 Glasse wrote:
honestly i would've hit kenpachi :3

this sucks[/QUOTE]
Alright, wtf. why didn't you say this before. Now, I now previously you were responding to how you felt about me vs dr. h, but seriously this kind of stuff is important. Also note this is AFTER Dr. H was already shot, so he can say whatever he says he "felt" really :/.

what i said about drh wasnt a fucking accusation, it was a suspicion, my vote was still on kenpachi because he was lurking way 2 much
Of course, why would you outright accuse him. You can be scum and lay suscipcion on someone without actually accusing them. Stop taking my points, and taking them to the extreme so their not true. And btw this was after YM was already lynched, so kenpachi vote didn't matter

[QUOTE]On November 17 2010 23:41 Glasse wrote:
wait kenpachi commited suicide but artanis isnt red now?

YES someone got protected by flash![/QUOTE]

Yes, and it wasn't you. Note that this really just shows he's not flash, that that was just a spur of the moment decision to combat my claim as flash. Note that how would this work since he claims he protected LSB night two. Doesn't add up.

nope, no one was protected by flash, as it was also explained to me later, lsb found out that you were visited. i thought kenpachi had suicided on lsb at first, so i was really fucking happy.
There's no way to prove whether or not this is true so I'll leave it at that.


[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 04:34 Glasse wrote:
we cant leave pandain alive, he could just sacrifice himself then we lose track of everything.[/QUOTE]
Again, if he's flash couldn't he protect from the "evil pandain?" Also note he hasn't voted for me either, so he's saying and not doing.

herp derp durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i don't have 100% chance to pick the same target as mafia with my shrink
Again, taking it to the extreme. If you were telling the truth, why not just have LSB track me, and if I was mafia, you could see who i Mced.

[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:19 Glasse wrote:
ok, i'm actually flash. pandain is a fucking liar rofl.

kthez or coag are mafia[/QUOTE]

Claims he's flash.

[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:20 Glasse wrote:
i protected myself night 1 and lsb night 2.[/QUOTE]
Now let's analyze these choices. Now, obviously protecting himself night one for the reasons he did was very anti town. And why would he protect LSB if he was still unsure of his alignment? In addition, why would he protect himself night one.
1.Did he really think mafia would try to sacrifice one of their own to get him?(you might be pretty decent but your not incognito or something)
2.Did he really think HE was more likely to get Mced than LSB, or even Artanis/Dr. H?(or i, but I'm not as amazing)
These choices just don't fit.

night 1 wasnt anti town, i explained it many times
i realize stuff while im typing a post and i realized lsb still wasnt 100% and i had protected him, which could've been bad
oh and about night 2, i really thought about shrinking artanis instead of lsb, because they are both good and i ended up picking lsb


It was anti town. Respond to the core argument, you were in no danger, so why would you protect yourself. And now you admit your second protection was bad(even though it was actually good since LSB WAS confirmed, see earlier. The last sentence is irrelevant.
[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:22 Glasse wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:20 Pandain wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:19 Glasse wrote:
ok, i'm actually flash. pandain is a fucking liar rofl.

kthez or coag are mafia[/QUOTE]
And we caught the second mafia.

[/QUOTE]

yea, kthez or coag

maybe even lsb... his claim could be fake :3 crap[/QUOTE]

This doesn't fit either. So he isn't sure of LSB's alignment even now(yet protected him the previous night), and thinks he found a mafia(me) because of what LSB(who he doesn't know is confirmed) says? Sorry if that's worded weird. But furthormore, LSB is obviously confirmed.

o hai i just answered this, sometimes i realize stuff while im posting, or right after
a bit after i also realized there was no way he wasnt detective

Respond above.

[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:23 Glasse wrote:
facepalm, please dont believe him :3

who cares if i went against the town consensus, i thought i should protect myself until i know more and not chance having mafia get 3 because their sacrifice didnt actually die[/QUOTE]
Thus begins his great "proof" of being shrink, that you guys shouldn't believe me. The second sentence, read it. "Who cares if I went against the town consensus". That is a VERY mafia-esque statement. going furthor, here he reveals he didn't protect LSB because he didn't think LSB was town(at the very least not neccesarily).

[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 08:42 Glasse wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 18 2010 06:30 LSB wrote:
-maintains radio silence-
Keep a clean thread for the final day please
(I tracked Pandain)[/QUOTE]

(did he leave his house?)[/QUOTE]

Why would you have to ask this if your the real shrink? If you were real(and thus I fake), you would already know.

because if you didnt leave your house, you were bulletproof (which kthez is) and if you did leave, you were doctor (and you are), at that point i was making my list that i posted shortly after
Would it matter if I was mafia?

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 22:04 GMT
#571
ROFL i fail too
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 22:05 GMT
#572
On November 19 2010 07:04 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 05:21 Pandain wrote:
Why Glasse's claim of shrink does not fit(Also an Analysis of his posts)
Summary: glasse has not played pro town this game. He has offered poor advice, has played scummily, made contradictions, and says to have performed actions which simply do not make sense. Dr. H was right when he pinned Glasse/kenpachi as the mafia team. I urge you to read this post, and not just skim it, as I bring up very good points here.
His Posts:
On November 12 2010 21:01 Glasse wrote:
Sup, i'm finally unbanned (longest 2 days ever)

I feel like the doctor and the other thing that can protect shouldnt roleclaim. Not yet at least :3
So many bad things can happen :3


First post and it already bodes ill for him. Note his relunctance to roleclaim. Now, its obvious he feels that doctors/shrinks shouldn't roleclaim, because bad things can happen. Yet he claims he's shrink almost immediately after I reveal I'm shrink. That doesn't add up.
Also note he calls shrink "that other thing." doesn't he know the role if he is it?

Obviously i fucking instantly roleclaimed, i felt like the fact that everyone thought he was confirmed because no one counter claimed would of worked my way, i instantly posted when i saw your comment because i was excited we confirmed a mafia member. Also, an easy way to make people think i'm not flash is to not even know how to call it
So then
1.Why would you thought another person wouldn't have claimed when LSB did(thus confirming him
2.But here you said they shouldn't, you at the very least showed strong relunctance to roleclaim. But merely one minute later you roleclaim, showing no hesitation.


On November 13 2010 00:42 Glasse wrote:
wait so if i get this right, mafia gets a free kp on night 1 and basically the medic/shrink/whatever will have to randomly guess who to protect?

did i get that wrong?
sounds kinda silly

Clarifies rules.
On November 13 2010 05:48 Glasse wrote:
what if that's what he want to he can convert, not die and then mafia has 3 ppl after night 1. :3

typing with this new keyboard feels so awesome

happy cat is happy look at him!

:3

First post against LSB(who has been revealed Town tracker.) Says that he could just be really a mafia who fake claimed tracker(despite the fact if the real tracker claimed that plan would be ruined.) So this statement is very leaning towards anti town, especially since LSB has already said he's confirmed because no other tracker has claimed. Ends with spam.

So you are avoiding my whole argument i did with you a couple pages ago to point this out AGAIN because it can help you in a way. No, he was not 100% confirmed and i explained why before. If the real detective didnt want to claim yet incase he would die and/or cause chaos to town
I'm not avoiding your argument. I'm pointint out inconsitincies. Like here you disagree with the previous post. In the case where you were a real shrink, why would you immediately claim if you caught a fake claim(hypothetical me), yet think that this person wouldn't?
And why would it matter if he dies if he caught a mafia


On November 13 2010 05:55 Glasse wrote:
On November 12 2010 12:09 Coagulation wrote:

5. Glasse
Posting quality and town contribution fluctuates based on his roles he receives
if hes got a role hes not happy with hes pretty bad
if hes got a decent role he contributes alot



i played 2 games total you can't really base yourself on that


Later says its obvious he always role claims fast, which contradicts as mentioned previously and with this statement.

i like how you only remember things that helps you try to down me lol. the way i post and myself roleclaiming fast don't really mean the same thing, Also i wanted to be jaedong, fuck flash :3

of course i do, because then I can find mafia.
On November 13 2010 11:56 Glasse wrote:
i feel like this is going nowhere right now :3

we need to do stuff if we wanna stop them from convincing everyone to touch childrens inapropriately


And this doesn't help :/

On November 14 2010 02:43 Glasse wrote:
i'd suggest that the shrink guy protects himself for the first night :3
doctor can rng as the mafia pick will probably be random as well


VERY ANTI TOWN. First, as already noted, shrink had to have protected LSB because he was confirmed, and tracker. Note that Glasse's claimed reason for not protecting LSB was that "he was not confirmed." Going further, why would Glasse protect himself? Did he really think he was in danger of being MCed?
Furthormore, he now claims this proves he DID protect himself night one. However, all it really proves is that he has been anti town in his "shrink" actions. So that doesn't even add up.
In addition having the doctor rng was a very bad idea. Mafia, as long as their not dumb, will never rng. Kills always have a purpose. Even worse, having the doctor RNG was even worse(doesn't protect LSB[wtf], can protect mafia, doesn't use noggin).

bringing this up again, jesus fucking christ, i explained it earlier in my answers. he was not 100% confirmed, i was not necessarily in danger of getting mc'd i just thought it'd be a better choice to keep myself as town instead of another random person that could have ended up being mafia as well. Also you really like to press on that "rng is dumb for doctor" because you really thought about it AS YOU WERE THE DOCTOR AT THAT POINT and disagree with me on that point\
Same point as above. But again, why would you be in danger of being Mced? And if you protected a mafia, nothing bad would happen. And you weren't going to die(unless mafia were extra weird for some reason), so why would you protect yourself?
I don't have to be doctor to now that a doctor rnging his protection is pretty anti town.


On November 15 2010 01:15 Glasse wrote:
i wonder if mafia will try to hit the more experienced ppl

or maybe we should lynch the most experienced ppl because they can manipulate easier

Says to lynch the expierenced people....

yea, the reason why i said it is true, i wouldnt want to lynch you early because your abilities to analyse suck
I caught kenpachi...caught you

On November 15 2010 10:18 Glasse wrote:
can you really vote for no one?
also i would not do that, it makes it much easier to manipulate a vote for mafia if over half of the town doesnt even vote


says he is against not voting.

of course, 2 kills per mafia a night is fucking dangerous, i'd rather take a chance and maybe catch one. and if you look, i voted kenpachi which ended up being an actual mafia
This wasn't accusing you actually lol. This was actually something pro town that you did!
On November 15 2010 21:05 Glasse wrote:
On November 15 2010 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 15 2010 12:17 Pandain wrote:

I knew I would regret it.
Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy
But again, who else do you think is a good lynch?

well

you look like scum to me
coagulation is our worst player
i don't trust glasse's inactivity and iirc he made a kinda bad scummy post on me but that could have been in kingmaker, i don't exactly remember



On November 15 2010 12:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
glasse wasn't even in kingmaker so it was in this game


what? where?


Also coag, you're asking for it.. i was planning on being quiet but helpful, now i must unleash the derp.

Also, going to vote for a lurker

##Vote: Kenpachi


Can we get an official vote count?



Goes against previous statement, votes for Kenpachi. Now, this may seem very "pro town" at first, seeing as kenpachi later turned out to be scum. But let's go in detail about this vote, and why in reality it put kenpachi in no danger. At that time, that was the very first vote for kenpachi. THE VERY FIRST VOTE. The votes to lynch no one was ahead by two votes, and doctor h had two votes. I was the only one who had to vote. Mafia go against other mafia all the time to lend town cred for later stages of the game. Ace did it hardcore against me in insane mafia, as well as RoL. Rather than take the actions at face value, what you have to do is go beyond and see what they really meant. As in, did they have any true effect? This vote, at that time, did not. It was merely giving him "brownie points" when really kenpachi was in no real danger.

Now, glasse never posted after this vote. I think it's a safe assumption to assume he did not come back until at least after I voted for kenpachi(which it was still safe for kenpachi.) Kenpachi was never in any real danger, therefore glasse's vote for him does not confirm him.


wait how the fuck am i going against my previous statement, i was AGAINST voting for no one. Also 21h KST is around when i usually leave for college i think, so thats why i came back later

maybe he wasnt in real danger, that's true, but he could have been as i left after i voted and it could have ended badly

My bad, I concede. Still, that really wasn't a main point. Now respond to the other 10 contradictions. Now your appealing to speculation, "well...maybe..." is common argument for scum when their lying.

On November 16 2010 10:10 Glasse wrote:
On November 16 2010 07:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm feeling Glasse/Kenpachi right now as the scumteam.


Yea, because obviously me trying to get him lynched hes my teamate

On November 16 2010 07:27 LSB wrote:
Youngminii, please shoot glasse or Kenpachi. They're kinof inactive.


i can start spamming instead of posting constructive comments every once in a while if you want, i thought people were mad at my super cat powers in insane mafia...

i just don't feel like letting everyone know my thoughts on EVERYTHING all the time...

if it bothers you so much i'll do it


Already adressed as glasse hardly tried to get kenpachi lynched. Says he doesn't want people to know what he's thinking(what).

i thought what drh said in insane mafia was true, telling everything you know to everyone can often harm the town more than it can help
But not at all?

On November 16 2010 10:14 Glasse wrote:
i just dont have anything important to say :3

SORRY!

Apologizing for not contributing. Again, note that this is how I caught kenpachi(in addition to other things.) This just reeks of inherent guilt, apologizing for not contributing.


yea, i felt bad for not helping the town, if you really thought what you just said is true you would have said it earlier, not now where you desperatly need to prove i'm mafia to get your mafia win. I WONT FUCKING LET YOU WIN TWICE IN A ROW and if i was mafia you could be 100% sure i would have fucking killed you night 1 because i hate you
Again, if you felt bad why didn't you help? And what are you talking about, this is the first time I'm really analyzing you, and trust me, town is gonna win this one.

On November 16 2010 10:25 Glasse wrote:
On November 16 2010 10:22 LSB wrote:
What do you think of the Pandain/Doctor H argument?


i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something.


Now, this does mean something. What's happening right now? YM is dead, and he was going to either (in most liklihood) shoot kenpachi or Dr. H. Now, glasse finally comes in, and puts suscipcion on dr. h. So this actually DOES mean something. Also note dr. h was town.

yea, i dont remember drh posting posts as big as this one before to prove a point that could have been proven in a much shorter way, i thought he was trying to hide something, which i also explained later
Because by posting alot, your hiding something. I see. *sacrcasm*



On November 16 2010 23:07 Glasse wrote:
honestly i would've hit kenpachi :3

this sucks

Alright, wtf. why didn't you say this before. Now, I now previously you were responding to how you felt about me vs dr. h, but seriously this kind of stuff is important. Also note this is AFTER Dr. H was already shot, so he can say whatever he says he "felt" really :/.

what i said about drh wasnt a fucking accusation, it was a suspicion, my vote was still on kenpachi because he was lurking way 2 much
Of course, why would you outright accuse him. You can be scum and lay suscipcion on someone without actually accusing them. Stop taking my points, and taking them to the extreme so their not true. And btw this was after YM was already lynched, so kenpachi vote didn't matter

On November 17 2010 23:41 Glasse wrote:
wait kenpachi commited suicide but artanis isnt red now?

YES someone got protected by flash!


Yes, and it wasn't you. Note that this really just shows he's not flash, that that was just a spur of the moment decision to combat my claim as flash. Note that how would this work since he claims he protected LSB night two. Doesn't add up.

nope, no one was protected by flash, as it was also explained to me later, lsb found out that you were visited. i thought kenpachi had suicided on lsb at first, so i was really fucking happy.
There's no way to prove whether or not this is true so I'll leave it at that.


On November 18 2010 04:34 Glasse wrote:
we cant leave pandain alive, he could just sacrifice himself then we lose track of everything.

Again, if he's flash couldn't he protect from the "evil pandain?" Also note he hasn't voted for me either, so he's saying and not doing.

herp derp durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i don't have 100% chance to pick the same target as mafia with my shrink
Again, taking it to the extreme. If you were telling the truth, why not just have LSB track me, and if I was mafia, you could see who i Mced.

On November 18 2010 06:19 Glasse wrote:
ok, i'm actually flash. pandain is a fucking liar rofl.

kthez or coag are mafia


Claims he's flash.

On November 18 2010 06:20 Glasse wrote:
i protected myself night 1 and lsb night 2.

Now let's analyze these choices. Now, obviously protecting himself night one for the reasons he did was very anti town. And why would he protect LSB if he was still unsure of his alignment? In addition, why would he protect himself night one.
1.Did he really think mafia would try to sacrifice one of their own to get him?(you might be pretty decent but your not incognito or something)
2.Did he really think HE was more likely to get Mced than LSB, or even Artanis/Dr. H?(or i, but I'm not as amazing)
These choices just don't fit.

night 1 wasnt anti town, i explained it many times
i realize stuff while im typing a post and i realized lsb still wasnt 100% and i had protected him, which could've been bad
oh and about night 2, i really thought about shrinking artanis instead of lsb, because they are both good and i ended up picking lsb


It was anti town. Respond to the core argument, you were in no danger, so why would you protect yourself. And now you admit your second protection was bad(even though it was actually good since LSB WAS confirmed, see earlier. The last sentence is irrelevant.
On November 18 2010 06:22 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 06:20 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 06:19 Glasse wrote:
ok, i'm actually flash. pandain is a fucking liar rofl.

kthez or coag are mafia

And we caught the second mafia.



yea, kthez or coag

maybe even lsb... his claim could be fake :3 crap


This doesn't fit either. So he isn't sure of LSB's alignment even now(yet protected him the previous night), and thinks he found a mafia(me) because of what LSB(who he doesn't know is confirmed) says? Sorry if that's worded weird. But furthormore, LSB is obviously confirmed.

o hai i just answered this, sometimes i realize stuff while im posting, or right after
a bit after i also realized there was no way he wasnt detective

Respond above.

On November 18 2010 06:23 Glasse wrote:
facepalm, please dont believe him :3

who cares if i went against the town consensus, i thought i should protect myself until i know more and not chance having mafia get 3 because their sacrifice didnt actually die

Thus begins his great "proof" of being shrink, that you guys shouldn't believe me. The second sentence, read it. "Who cares if I went against the town consensus". That is a VERY mafia-esque statement. going furthor, here he reveals he didn't protect LSB because he didn't think LSB was town(at the very least not neccesarily).

On November 18 2010 08:42 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 06:30 LSB wrote:
-maintains radio silence-
Keep a clean thread for the final day please
(I tracked Pandain)


(did he leave his house?)


Why would you have to ask this if your the real shrink? If you were real(and thus I fake), you would already know.

because if you didnt leave your house, you were bulletproof (which kthez is) and if you did leave, you were doctor (and you are), at that point i was making my list that i posted shortly after
Would it matter if I was mafia?


Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 22:05 GMT
#573
Decondou may I edit the above, all its doing is hurting the eyes now
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 22:09 GMT
#574
On November 19 2010 07:03 Glasse wrote:
let's look at lsb's thoughts

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:09 LSB wrote:
Things I know.

LSB night two: Pandain visited me night 1
LSB night two: Kenpachi visited Artanis and Pandain

Mafia action night 1: Hit Artanis
Mafia action Night 2: Kill Artanis. Kenpachi converts Pandain.

Things that were claimed
Coagulation: Save LSB night 2
Pandain: Shrink, save self night 2
Glasse: Shrink, save LSB night 2
KtheZ: Bulletproof.

pandain goes against his very own strong argument that shrink should never protect himself?
I protected myself because
1.there was a chance I would be converted(got kenpachi)
2.LSB would probably be safe night two(not night one)

Case 2: Only Kenpachi used conversion. Pandain is lying
However, Pandain visited me night one. That means that he is doctor.
Then Coag would be lying

Solution: Lynch Coagulation Day 2, Lynch Pandain Day 3.

pandain did visit you night 1 as doctor, because coag was lying
Wrong. Coag was converted.
Case 3: Only Kenpachi used conversion. Glasse is lying
If Pandain is telling the truth, Glasse is the only mafia left.
Solution 1: Lynch Glasse


well coag was red so this doesnt apply

Except again, you easily could've(and probably best to) convert coag, and you ended up getting saved by him as well.
On November 18 2010 10:30 LSB wrote:
After Coag gets lynched. What happens?

Coag is Maifa: This mean that Pandain is also mafia. Lynch him day 3



yep

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