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On October 30 2010 04:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i remembered incorrectly about youngminii
he bandwagoned fishball NOT bumatlarge
this makes more sense, why would a scumbuddy come to the fake rescue of someone who isn't scum. that gives me more to think about. I'd really really really like a DT to rolecheck fishball. I can only kinda determine whether they may or may not be town and even then it ends up in a bit of a WIFOM situation.
the reason i feel weird about pandain is because his election reminds me a lot of the time when i was elected as scum mayor in my first mafia game and the way its going is very similar to that.
i wish there were more than 2 legitimate candidates that both come off as suspicious to me.
now that youngminii was voting for fishball, I'm less sure. I know youngminii in haunted mafia when he was vampire, he was a smart guy and always explained what he said in vampire chat. he's not the kind who would just say meaningless bullshit if he was town imo
Well I WAS running, but you quickly smited my candidacy cuz I *mocking tone* wasn't good enough for you */mocking tone*.
But I do agree, I wish there were more candidates. To be honest though, every candidate will look suspicious. We will always find a way to criticize the people running.
I'm torn. I want to vote for Fishball because I think I would rather him be mayor than Pandain. However, I don't want to run for Fishball because he will still be able to operate in the circle, and I would really like him to be DT checked.
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On October 30 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm gonna run for mayor
pandain has a big bandwagon that isn't saying shit about why they are electing him for the most part which is really suspicious
fishball needs to be rolechecked and the scummiest player is on his bandwagon and having him not be mayor makes things easier for town
i think by my posts everyone can see I'm pretty clearly town aligned. I can also roleclaim safely then and I will tell you that I have a very useful role that can help us coordinate to win this game. there is also no chance that i will die as mayor so plague doctors would not need to waste their night action on me and can protect other people
i'm a huge target for my experience and value to the town, why not get me protected so medics can protect somebody. i'd like to see our experienced players survive the night (infundi, ace, bumatlarge, fishball, brownbear, etc.)
Whoashit, this changes EVERYTHING. I'm very curious as to what you mean by not needing a Plague Doctor... some sort of immunity to Murrayitis? Or perhaps you're Mafia, and your role is to spread the virus... On the other hand, your posts so far do point you out as a townie, and your experience in past games does lend you the sort of aura of command I think a Mayor needs.
I'll ponder this some more.
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On October 30 2010 04:52 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm gonna run for mayor
pandain has a big bandwagon that isn't saying shit about why they are electing him for the most part which is really suspicious
fishball needs to be rolechecked and the scummiest player is on his bandwagon and having him not be mayor makes things easier for town
i think by my posts everyone can see I'm pretty clearly town aligned. I can also roleclaim safely then and I will tell you that I have a very useful role that can help us coordinate to win this game. there is also no chance that i will die as mayor so plague doctors would not need to waste their night action on me and can protect other people
i'm a huge target for my experience and value to the town, why not get me protected so medics can protect somebody. i'd like to see our experienced players survive the night (infundi, ace, bumatlarge, fishball, brownbear, etc.) Whoashit, this changes EVERYTHING. I'm very curious as to what you mean by not needing a Plague Doctor... some sort of immunity to Murrayitis? Or perhaps you're Mafia, and your role is to spread the virus... On the other hand, your posts so far do point you out as a townie, and your experience in past games does lend you the sort of aura of command I think a Mayor needs. I'll ponder this some more.
i will tell everyone exactly what my role is and what it does and then I will confirm my role to someone who has been rolechecked who can then confirm it in the thread
that's all very confusing
but basically as soon as I am elected I will prove I am not mafia or you can lynch me.
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i havent thought of who i would lynch because there hasnt been any traction for my candidacy yet
but i think mayor candidates shouldnt reveal this anyway because if they would go after a mafia, it may incentivize other mafia to vote against them or to not vote for them when they otherwise would
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On October 30 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm gonna run for mayor
pandain has a big bandwagon that isn't saying shit about why they are electing him for the most part which is really suspicious
fishball needs to be rolechecked and the scummiest player is on his bandwagon and having him not be mayor makes things easier for town
i think by my posts everyone can see I'm pretty clearly town aligned. I can also roleclaim safely then and I will tell you that I have a very useful role that can help us coordinate to win this game. there is also no chance that i will die as mayor so plague doctors would not need to waste their night action on me and can protect other people
i'm a huge target for my experience and value to the town, why not get me protected so medics can protect somebody. i'd like to see our experienced players survive the night (infundi, ace, bumatlarge, fishball, brownbear, etc.)
Honestly, Dr.H, I'm glad you have decided to run.
You and I both seem to have very similar opinions, and you are more experienced than I.
As of now, you have some support from me. Probationary support, but some support nonetheless. I will not give Pandain my vote, so as of this moment, I will give my vote to either you or Fishball.
Side note: You won't need protection AND you can sort of prove others roles? HOW MANY POWERS DO YOU HAVE?! O_o
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my power is actually really simple but the applications of it are complex and I'm finding them out as I think and play more
at first i was like "wtf am i gonna do with this power it sucks"
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On October 30 2010 04:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 04:52 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm gonna run for mayor
pandain has a big bandwagon that isn't saying shit about why they are electing him for the most part which is really suspicious
fishball needs to be rolechecked and the scummiest player is on his bandwagon and having him not be mayor makes things easier for town
i think by my posts everyone can see I'm pretty clearly town aligned. I can also roleclaim safely then and I will tell you that I have a very useful role that can help us coordinate to win this game. there is also no chance that i will die as mayor so plague doctors would not need to waste their night action on me and can protect other people
i'm a huge target for my experience and value to the town, why not get me protected so medics can protect somebody. i'd like to see our experienced players survive the night (infundi, ace, bumatlarge, fishball, brownbear, etc.) Whoashit, this changes EVERYTHING. I'm very curious as to what you mean by not needing a Plague Doctor... some sort of immunity to Murrayitis? Or perhaps you're Mafia, and your role is to spread the virus... On the other hand, your posts so far do point you out as a townie, and your experience in past games does lend you the sort of aura of command I think a Mayor needs. I'll ponder this some more. i will tell everyone exactly what my role is and what it does and then I will confirm my role to someone who has been rolechecked who can then confirm it in the thread that's all very confusing but basically as soon as I am elected I will prove I am not mafia or you can lynch me.
How are you going to find and recruit a Detective role, and convince him to cooperate? I mean, we're all pretty much in the dark here, so unless a Detective acts of his own accord, I don't see how you'd find one to help, short of being in Fishball's circle (assuming it exists at all).
On October 30 2010 04:55 annul wrote:
i havent thought of who i would lynch because there hasnt been any traction for my candidacy yet
but i think mayor candidates shouldnt reveal this anyway because if they would go after a mafia, it may incentivize other mafia to vote against them or to not vote for them when they otherwise would
I admit, I didn't think of this. Good point, Annul. I won't press the issue any further.
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fyi i will reveal my role too when i get elected, dont let drh use this as a point when ive been saying this too all game
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On October 30 2010 04:58 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 04:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 04:52 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 04:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm gonna run for mayor
pandain has a big bandwagon that isn't saying shit about why they are electing him for the most part which is really suspicious
fishball needs to be rolechecked and the scummiest player is on his bandwagon and having him not be mayor makes things easier for town
i think by my posts everyone can see I'm pretty clearly town aligned. I can also roleclaim safely then and I will tell you that I have a very useful role that can help us coordinate to win this game. there is also no chance that i will die as mayor so plague doctors would not need to waste their night action on me and can protect other people
i'm a huge target for my experience and value to the town, why not get me protected so medics can protect somebody. i'd like to see our experienced players survive the night (infundi, ace, bumatlarge, fishball, brownbear, etc.) Whoashit, this changes EVERYTHING. I'm very curious as to what you mean by not needing a Plague Doctor... some sort of immunity to Murrayitis? Or perhaps you're Mafia, and your role is to spread the virus... On the other hand, your posts so far do point you out as a townie, and your experience in past games does lend you the sort of aura of command I think a Mayor needs. I'll ponder this some more. i will tell everyone exactly what my role is and what it does and then I will confirm my role to someone who has been rolechecked who can then confirm it in the thread that's all very confusing but basically as soon as I am elected I will prove I am not mafia or you can lynch me. How are you going to find and recruit a Detective role, and convince him to cooperate? I mean, we're all pretty much in the dark here, so unless a Detective acts of his own accord, I don't see how you'd find one to help, short of being in Fishball's circle (assuming it exists at all). Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 04:55 annul wrote:
i havent thought of who i would lynch because there hasnt been any traction for my candidacy yet
but i think mayor candidates shouldnt reveal this anyway because if they would go after a mafia, it may incentivize other mafia to vote against them or to not vote for them when they otherwise would I admit, I didn't think of this. Good point, Annul. I won't press the issue any further.
This is true.
But I can confirm that I am the role I say I am. The only problem is confirming it to the right person.
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On October 30 2010 04:59 annul wrote:
fyi i will reveal my role too when i get elected, dont let drh use this as a point when ive been saying this too all game
why are you attacking me? i never said i'm the only person revealing my role, but can you use it to prove that you are a town player?
what are you offering aside from that? i'm pretty sure everyone running is gonna roleclaim when they are elected.
why bother to try and make me look bad? why not just say "i'm gonna roleclaim too", why even bring me up?
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I'm unvoting Pandain, I originally voted for him as a safety net in case I couldn't post. Then I decided to leave my vote with him because I felt a bandwagon was forming around Fishball and I really don't feel safe with a mayor with that much power. Now I'm unvoting Pandain because a bandwagon has formed around him in a rather suprising manner, most people are simply saying they don't want to vote for fishball therefor they are voting for Pandain. As Dr. H pointed out this is pretty suspicious. Another thing I've noticed is that of the three candidates Pandain is campaigning the least, he's even gone so far as to support Fishball. I don't know what this means but it doesn't make me confident regarding Pandain's leadership, if he wants to be mayor he should be actively promoting himself.
There's plenty of time to vote for mayor so I'm going to think long and hard about this. Dr. H is looking pretty good right now but I may go back to Pandain depending on how Dr. H's candidacy changes things.
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On October 30 2010 05:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 04:59 annul wrote:
fyi i will reveal my role too when i get elected, dont let drh use this as a point when ive been saying this too all game why are you attacking me? i never said i'm the only person revealing my role, but can you use it to prove that you are a town player? what are you offering aside from that? i'm pretty sure everyone running is gonna roleclaim when they are elected. why bother to try and make me look bad? why not just say "i'm gonna roleclaim too", why even bring me up?
It's an election, and Annul ran a smear ad. Nothing unusual. =)
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On October 30 2010 04:51 orgolove wrote:Wow, I can't believe Pandain is getting this much support. Even bumatlarge is preferable to his "Yum Yum" crap - need I remind you that Pandain stoops at nothing, even going as far as faking a rolecheck on a blue into mafia, just so he could "lead a circle"? Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 03:04 Pandain wrote:On October 17 2010 03:03 Divinek wrote:
you have a dt who checked jodo and he came back vampire and you think heaven is mafia?
just trying to clear it up so i can pick it apart properly Yes. In addition, it appears the previous sentence referred to the silver instrument specifically as a hammer. keep that in mind. Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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4. jodogohoo (Grim Reaper) Don't give power to the animal. -_-
Thanks for the biased report on me. I'll have you know that Jodo was playing very scum that game and based on pms with him I was 100% sure he was mafia. Unfortunately, he was just a very poor townie. I don't see where your getting at by this. My true problem in analysis lies in the distinction between poor townies and scum, and besides that I think I'm really starting to improve. And if you didn't like yum yum, you guys just had to say  .
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked.
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On October 30 2010 05:05 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 04:59 annul wrote:
fyi i will reveal my role too when i get elected, dont let drh use this as a point when ive been saying this too all game why are you attacking me? i never said i'm the only person revealing my role, but can you use it to prove that you are a town player? what are you offering aside from that? i'm pretty sure everyone running is gonna roleclaim when they are elected. why bother to try and make me look bad? why not just say "i'm gonna roleclaim too", why even bring me up? It's an election, and Annul ran a smear ad. Nothing unusual. =)
that kind of behavior still must be examined, don't write it off too quickly
FoS on annul
+ Show Spoiler +FoS or Finger of Suspicion is basically a marker of suspicion that isn't strong enough to warrant a vote/lynch. Players who are FoS'd should be more carefully examined by the town.
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artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambit
somehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more
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On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked.
A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia:
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(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...)
On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more
That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons.
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On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons.
artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle
as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak
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On October 30 2010 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons. artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
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On October 30 2010 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons. artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak
So it is not a "neutral circle"? It is a town-aligned circle? Kinda a big difference.
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On October 30 2010 05:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons. artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak So it is not a "neutral circle"? It is a town-aligned circle? Kinda a big difference.
no, the players alignment doesn't matter. they can pm eachother but each person still has their original win condition
so if mafia is in the group they win when mafia wins
if town is in the group they win when town wins
that group doesn't have a win condition, they aren't a faction so to speak
of course the intricacies of what artanis may or may not have planned elude me and the rest of us and it could have its own separate power roles or any manner of crazy shit
it could also not even exist
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