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On October 30 2010 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 30 2010 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons. artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak So it is not a "neutral circle"? It is a town-aligned circle? Kinda a big difference. no, the players alignment doesn't matter. they can pm eachother but each person still has their original win condition so if mafia is in the group they win when mafia wins if town is in the group they win when town wins that group doesn't have a win condition, they aren't a faction so to speak of course the intricacies of what artanis may or may not have planned elude me and the rest of us and it could have its own separate power roles or any manner of crazy shit it could also not even exist
Ah, ok, that makes sense.
And yeah, the uncertainty of everything makes me scared face.
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On October 30 2010 05:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 05:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 30 2010 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons. artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak So it is not a "neutral circle"? It is a town-aligned circle? Kinda a big difference. no, the players alignment doesn't matter. they can pm eachother but each person still has their original win condition so if mafia is in the group they win when mafia wins if town is in the group they win when town wins that group doesn't have a win condition, they aren't a faction so to speak of course the intricacies of what artanis may or may not have planned elude me and the rest of us and it could have its own separate power roles or any manner of crazy shit it could also not even exist Ah, ok, that makes sense. And yeah, the uncertainty of everything makes me scared face.
i think it would be nice to have masons
it's really quite simple, you just give people the power to pm over time.
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On October 30 2010 05:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 30 2010 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 05:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 30 2010 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 30 2010 05:19 Aeres wrote:On October 30 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Need I remind you that I had coordinated blues in that game and was leading the town towards victory until I got shot. Of course, I used less than ideal means, but it worked. A summary of Pandain's role in Haunted Mafia: + Show Spoiler +(For what it's worth, I thought the "yum yum" was cute...) On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more That seems more like a Cult to me than a group of Masons. artanis said that there could be masons in this game and that people could potentially be converted tot he town circle as far as i know masons do not have a seperate win condition, thats what makes them different than cultists. you retain your alignment when you are converted so to speak So it is not a "neutral circle"? It is a town-aligned circle? Kinda a big difference. no, the players alignment doesn't matter. they can pm eachother but each person still has their original win condition so if mafia is in the group they win when mafia wins if town is in the group they win when town wins that group doesn't have a win condition, they aren't a faction so to speak of course the intricacies of what artanis may or may not have planned elude me and the rest of us and it could have its own separate power roles or any manner of crazy shit it could also not even exist Ah, ok, that makes sense. And yeah, the uncertainty of everything makes me scared face. i think it would be nice to have masons it's really quite simple, you just give people the power to pm over time.
No, I meant the uncertainty of having no idea what's going on in the game, whether or not there is actually a Mason group.
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On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more
Well gee, that's curious. I wonder if we go back to bumatlarge's posts and why he said Fishball's method, if true, was faster, what we can put together. Well, I suppose his reasons are still unknown then?
Do not vote pandain. Vote anyone but pandain. I say it should be me or fishball. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS STATED ABOVE.
I never really retracted my run :/ misinformation!
And when I get back from work I'm gonna really go through what people are spreading around.
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All right, I'm going to lay down some of my own cards on the table.
I'm seriously considering running for mayor. What I am going to divulge at this point is that I have what I believe is a very powerful role, but I wouldn't feel comfortable revealing it without some level of protection (bodyguards). Because of the nature of the role, I would be able to confirm that I am what I say I am by the second day. The role does not involve the ability to PM others.
If I run for mayor, I will outright roleclaim then and there what I am under the assumption that it would be enough to get me elected.
I want to know if this is a good idea. I realize that it would be asking others to elect me purely because of my role -- I am fairly new at this game and made some horrendous decisions in Haunted Mafia, though if you check my boogeyman visits I had some pretty good hunches about who was red.
Thoughts?
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On October 30 2010 05:54 Node wrote:
All right, I'm going to lay down some of my own cards on the table.
I'm seriously considering running for mayor. What I am going to divulge at this point is that I have what I believe is a very powerful role, but I wouldn't feel comfortable revealing it without some level of protection (bodyguards). Because of the nature of the role, I would be able to confirm that I am what I say I am by the second day. The role does not involve the ability to PM others.
If I run for mayor, I will outright roleclaim then and there what I am under the assumption that it would be enough to get me elected.
I want to know if this is a good idea. I realize that it would be asking others to elect me purely because of my role -- I am fairly new at this game and made some horrendous decisions in Haunted Mafia, though if you check my boogeyman visits I had some pretty good hunches about who was red.
Thoughts?
offering the same thing as me, as I can also confirm my role to others without PMing
but you were a pretty good boogeyman I'll give you that
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On October 30 2010 05:52 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more Well gee, that's curious. I wonder if we go back to bumatlarge's posts and why he said Fishball's method, if true, was faster, what we can put together. Well, I suppose his reasons are still unknown then? Do not vote pandain. Vote anyone but pandain. I say it should be me or fishball. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS STATED ABOVE. I never really retracted my run :/ misinformation! And when I get back from work I'm gonna really go through what people are spreading around.
Are you claiming to also be in Fishball's circle? What are the "obvious reasons stated above"?
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people in fishballs circle need to claim already
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On October 30 2010 05:52 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:artanis told me it is possible that people can be converted into a neutral circle (the one fishball talked about) and that masons may be active.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mason
so they can convert people into their PM circle I guess, passing on the power of PMing. that could be very interesting and it would change the dynamics of my whole gambitsomehow it makes me more suspicious of fishball, but I need to think about it more Well gee, that's curious. I wonder if we go back to bumatlarge's posts and why he said Fishball's method, if true, was faster, what we can put together. Well, I suppose his reasons are still unknown then? Do not vote pandain. Vote anyone but pandain. I say it should be me or fishball. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS STATED ABOVE. I never really retracted my run :/ misinformation! And when I get back from work I'm gonna really go through what people are spreading around.
On October 29 2010 14:45 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 14:31 orgolove wrote:At this point, I haven't seen Pandein or bumatlarge bring anything more to the table. Especially considering: 1. bumatlarge voted for himself within a minute after the game started -_- without providing anything he could bring to the table 2. Pandein, who kinda sorta lied in Haunted mafia: On October 17 2010 03:04 Pandain wrote:On October 17 2010 03:03 Divinek wrote:
you have a dt who checked jodo and he came back vampire and you think heaven is mafia?
just trying to clear it up so i can pick it apart properly Yes. In addition, it appears the previous sentence referred to the silver instrument specifically as a hammer. keep that in mind. On October 10 2010 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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4. jodogohoo (Grim Reaper) I haven't seen any better candidate yet. I've stated that I have a plan, but Fishball's does it much faster. And now that he's already stated it, I'll back out. I don't think it makes him any more town then me, and I don't think it puts me in any real danger, because mafia can glean from what I've stated that I'm not a strong-blue. Everyone has a role 
o rly?
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I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.
I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.
It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him.
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On October 29 2010 18:08 bumatlarge wrote:
The fact that fishball came out a little late on this is weird, what was he waiting for? Maybe he was talking with his posse?
...I'm deliberating whether we should all claim whether or not we are in this circle or not to at least root out that... though 6 is an easy number to check, wouldn't see it relevant number to choose unless he would handpick from his scumbuddies if he secured himself.
Wondering if I should just stick with my thing.
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How will you can confirm your role as a pro-town player? I can do this as soon as I am elected and I promise to do so or I am offering myself up for a lynch.
Wouldn't it be better to have someone that is 100% confirmed pro-town put into the circle, protected, and having them coordinating/relaying information to the town? I have an ability that will be extremely useful in coordination for our blues as well.
There is uncertainty with you and fishball and I'd rather have you guys open to rolechecks. I can prove I am who I say I am without a DT.
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it seems unlikely to me that there is a person who can create a circle, an already existing circle of 6, and a mafia in this game
i know this game is insane but it makes fishball look like a liar and no one has come out and said "oh I'm part of his circle"
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Alright this is pretty bad for town. Alot of people would be alot safer if everyone didn't decide to run for mayor because they need "protection." because honestly, the best protection is secrecy. Now only one of us will win the election, and the rest of us will be sniped off.
Also, Bum, whats with anyone but me? I'd like to hear your reasons instead of just words.
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Also, If I'm mayor and no one claims from Fishball's circle, I will lynch him. Hopefully he's not Village idiot....
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actually it's pretty bad for town to have fewer candidates
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On October 30 2010 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
actually it's pretty bad for town to have fewer candidates
Its even worse when several blues run claiming they are important..... since that means they're either mafia or going to get sniped off.
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Doc you are all over the place with votes man
I will think about voting for you because i think you are very experienced however
On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.
pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.
i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.
I feel like if DocH Is a red we would never know.
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On October 30 2010 06:14 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
actually it's pretty bad for town to have fewer candidates Its even worse when several blues run claiming they are important..... since that means they're either mafia or going to get sniped off.
everyone is a blue in this game lol
i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying
you have offered nothing yet have a huge bandwagon behind you for whatever reason
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The downside of secrecy is due to the nature of this particular game it's impossible to reveal any information without putting your head on the line. It's not exactly possible to be subtle -- it's all or nothing. I'm not in a position where I can gently guide town to the correct choices.
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